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TOWN BOARD MEETING JANUARY 24 , 1984
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS
MRS. FRANCES WALTER-SUPERVISOR
MR. DANIEL OLSON-COUNCILMAN
DR. CHARLES EISENHART-COUNCILMAN
MR. DANIEL MORRELL-COUNCILMAN
MRS. BETTY MONAHAN-COUNCILMAN
MR. WILSON MATHIAS-TOWN COUNSEL
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I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN MONAHAN ,
MEETING OPENED 8 : 04 P. M.
PRESS: G. F. POST STAR , WBZA, WWSC
GUESTS : MR. BOB STUART, MR. SALVATORE , LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS
TOW OFFICIALS:FFICIALS: MR. MACK DEAN , MR. RICK MISSITA
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RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE MINUTES
RESOLUTION NO . 28 , INTRODUCED BY DR. CHARLES EISENHART WHO MOVED
FBR: ITS ADOPTION , SECONDED BY MR. DANIEL MORRELL :
RESOLVED , THAT THE TOWN BOARD MINUTES OF JANUARY 10 , 1984 BE AND
HEREBY ARE APPROVED.
DULY ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE :
AYES : MR. OLSON , DR. EISENHART , MR. MORRELL , MRS . MONAHAN , MRS. WALTER
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NOES : NONE
ABSENT : NONE
RESOLUTION ALLOWING FIRE WORKS DISPLAY
RESOLUTION NO_29: INTRODUCED BY MR. DANIEL MORRELL WHO MOVED FOR ITS
ADOPTION , SECONDED BY MR. DANIEL OLSON :
RESOLVED , THAT PERMISSION IS HEREBY GRANTED TO WEST MOUNTAIN SKI CENTER
TO CONDUCT A FIRE WORKS "DISPLAY ON SATURDAY , FEBRUARY 4TH 1984 AT THE
WEST MOUNTAIN SKI CENTER , AND BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, THAT SAID SKI CENTER HAS FILED WITH THE TOWN A CERTIFICATE OF
INSURANCE IN THE AMOUNTOF $1 , 000 ,000 . 00 LIABILITY .
DULY ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE :
AYES : MR. OLSON , DR. EISENHART , MR. MORRELL , MRS. MONAHAN , MRS . WALTER
NOES : NONE
ABSENT : NONE
(SUPERVISOR WALTER- APOLOGIZED FOR THE LATE START OF THE MEETING. . .NOTED
THAT THE TOWN BOARD WAS MEETING WITH THE TOWN 'S NEGOTIATOR)
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DISCUSSION HELD- COUNCILMAN MONAHAN SUGGESTED THAT IN THE FUTURE
THE TOWN SHOULD CONSULT WITH OUR INSURANCE CONSULTANT ABOUT THE
AMOUNT THAT SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE COVERED AND ALSO� SHOULD THE
TOWN BE NAMED AS AN INSURED ON THE POLICY . . .
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE BINGO LICENSE
RESOLUTION NO . 30 . INTRODUCED BY MR. DANIEL OLSON WHO MOVED FOR ITS
ADOPTION , SECONDED BY MRS. BETTY MONAHAN :
RESOLVED , THAT BINGO LICENSE NO. 17036 BE AND HEREBY IS APPROVED ALLOWING
WEST GLENS FALLS VOLUNTEER FIRE CO. TO HOLD BINGO OCCASIONS FROM FEBRUARY
4TH THROUGH APRIL 28 , 1984 AND BE IT FURTHER
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RESOLVED, THAT THIS LICENSE INCLUDES TWO SUNDAY BINGO OCCASIONS:;
DULY ADOPTED BY THE -:FOLLOWING VOTE :
AYES : MR. OLSON , MR. MORRELL , MRS . MONAHAN , MRS . WALTER
NOES : OR:. EISENHART
ABSENT : NONE
RESOLUTION CHANGING NAMES OF CERTAIN ROADS IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
PURSUANT TO SECTION 131-F OF THE HIGHWAY LAW {
RESOLUTION NO . 31 , INTRODUCED BY MR. DANIEL OLSON WHO MOVED FOR ITS
ADOPTION , SECONDED BY DR. CHARLES EISENHART : I
WHEREAS, NUMEROUS QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RAISED REGARDING THE LEGAL NAME OF i
CERTAIN TOWN ROADS WITHIN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY , AND
WHEREAS, THE TOWN HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY HAS
UNDERTAKEN A SURVEY TO DETERMINE THE ACTUAL NAME USED BY THE OWNERS OF
REAL PROPERTY ADJACENT TO AND IN THE VICINITY OF THE FOLLOWING LISTED
ROADS , AND
WHEREAS , IN ORDER TO AVOID CONFUSION , MISTAKES , AND IMPRECISE DESCRIPTION
OF ROADS AND THE ADJOINING RESIDENCES WITHIN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY , AND
UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TOWN HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE TOWN
OF QUEENSBURY , THE TOWN BOARD FINDS AND HEREBY CERTIFIES THAT THE FOLLOWING
NAME CHANGES OF TOWN ROADS WITHIN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY ARE BOTH PROPER
AND NECESSARY FOR THE PUBLIC INTEREST ,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THAT THE FOLLOWING TOWN ROADS WITHIN THE
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY SHALL BE HEREAFTER KNOWN AS , CALLED , AND NAMED AS
FOLLOWS :
OLD NAME NEW NAME
WIN CHIP ROAD LAWTON AVENUE
HARRINGTON LANE PASCO AVENUE
PINE AVENUE NEW PINE STREET
WEST SHORE ROAD SOUTH KNOX ROAD
WEST SHORE ROAD NORTH LAKE PARKWAY
AND, BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED , THAT A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION BE FORWARDED TO THE WARREN
COUNTY HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT , WARREN COUNTY CLERK , AND REAL PROPERTY
TAX SERVICE DEPT.
DULY ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE :
AYES : MR. OLSON , DR. EISENHART , MR. MORRELL , MRS. MONAHAN , MRS. WALTER
NOES : NONE
ABSENT : NONE
DISCUSSION HELD-COUNCILMAN OLSON- THE NEW NAMES ARE ALREADY BEING �J
USED BY THE RESIDENTS? MR. MISSITA- YES SUPERVISOR WALTER- THE NAME
CHANGES HAVE BEEN COORDINATED WITH THE TOWN CLERK ' S OFFICE. . .
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BANKING PRACTICES FOR TOWN MONIES BY THE RECEIVER OF TAXES AND
ASSESSMENTS
RESOLUTION N0 , 32 � INTRODUCED BY DR. CHARLES EISENHART WHO MOVED FOR ITS
ADOPTION , SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR FRANCES WALTER :
WHEREAS, SECTION 37 OF THE TOWN LAW SETS FORTH THE POWERS AND DUTIES
OF THE RECEIVER OF TAXES AND ASSESSMENTS , AND
WHEREAS, BY CHAPTER 968 OF THE 1983 SESSION LAWS THE NEW YORK STATE
LEGISLATURE AMENDED SUCH SECTION OF THE TOWN LAW PERMITTING THE TOWN
BOARD TO SPECIFY THE TYPE OF BANK ACCOUNTS UTILIZED BY THE SAID RECEIVER
OF TAXES AND ASSESSMENTS ,
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NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED , THAT THE RECEIVER OF TAXES AND
ASSESSMENTS OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY IS HEREBY AUTHORIZED AND
DIRECTED TO , WITHIN TWENTY-FOUR HOURS AFTER RECEIVING ALL ASSESSMENTS
AND ALL TOWN TAXES RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE PAYMENT IN FULL OF ANY
WARRANT FOR THE COLLECTION OF TAXES , DEPOSIT SUCH SUMS OF MONEY IN
INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNTS , DESIGNATED AS MONEY MARKET DEPOSIT ACCOUNTS
AND SUPER NOW ACCOUNTS IN A BANK OR TRUST COMPANY DESIGNATED BY THE
TOWN BOARD AT THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING THEREOF.
DULY ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE :
AYES : MR. OLSON , DR. EISENHART , MR. MORRELL , MRS. MONAHAN , MRS. WALTER
�- NOES : NONE
ABSENT : NONE
SUPERVISOR WALTER- THE KEY HERE IS INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNTS , THE
RECEIVER BY LAW IS TO BE DIRECTED BY THE TOWN BOARD AS TO WHAT KIND
OF ACCOUNTS SHE USES AND WE ARE SAYING ANY MONIES THAT ARE COLLECTED
SHALL BE PUT IN INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNTS.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- QUESTIONED THE DEPOSITING WITHIN 24 HOURS. . . QUESTIONED
WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS . . .
TOWN COUNSEL- THAT 24 HOURS IS WHAT THE TOWN LAW SAYS . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- NOTED THAT THE 24 HOURS IS DEALING WITH THE NEXT WORKING
DAY . . . THE RECEIVER DOES NOT LEAVE BIG MONETARY AMOUNTS OVER THE WEEKEND ,
THEY ARE DEPOSITED. . .
BANKING PRACTICES FOR COUNTY AND SCBOOL DISTRICT MONIES BY THE RECEIVER
OF TAXES AND ASSESSMENTS
RESOLUTION NO . 33, INTRODUCED BY MR. DANIEL MORRELL WHO MOVED FOR ITS
{ ADOPTION , SECONDED BY MR. DANIEL OLSON :
WHEREAS , SECTION 37 OF THE TOWN LAW AS RECENTLY AMENDED BY THE NEW
YORK STATE LEGISLATURE PERMITS THE TOWN BOARD TO DIRECT THE TEMPORARY
INVESTMENT OF COUNTY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT MONIES RECEIVED BY THE TOWN
RECEIVER OF TAXES AND ASSESSMENTS IN INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNTS , AND
WHEREAS, SUCH SECTION OF THE TOWN LAW SPECIFIES THE ENTITY ENTITLED
TO INTEREST ON MONEY SO DEPOSITED ,
NOW , THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THAT THE RECEIVER OF TAXES AND ASSESSMENTS
OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY IS HEREBY AUTHORIZED AND DIRECTED TO , WITHIN
TWENTY-FOUR HOURS AFTER RECEIVING SCHOOL TAXES AND ANY TOWN AND COUNTY
TAXES RECEIVED AFTER THE PAYMENT IN FULL OF ANY WARRANT FOR THE COLLECTION
OF TAXES , DEPOSIT SUCH SUMS OF MONEY IN INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNT ,
DESIGNATED AS MONEY MARKET DEPOSIT ACCOUNTS AND SUPER NOW ACCOUNTS IN
A BANK OR TRUST COMPANY DESIGNATED BY THE TOWN BOARD AT THE ORGANIZATIONAL
MEETING THEREOF, AND IT IS FURTHER
RESOLVED, THAT THE RECEIVER OF TAXES AND ASSESSMENTS OF THE TOWN OF
QUEENSBURY IS DIRECTED TO PAY SUCH COUNTY MONIES SO INVESTED TO THE
WARREN COUNTY TREASURER BY THE 15TH DAY OF THE MONEY FOLLOWING THE
RECEIPT OF SUCH MONIES , AND IT IS FURTHER
RESOLVED, THAT THE INTEREST EARNED ON TAX MONIES SO DEPOSITED, COLLECTED
ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY AND ANY SCHOOL DISTRICT SHALL BELONG TO THE TAXING
ENTITY FOR WHICH SUGH MONIES WERE COLLETED UNLESS SUCH ENTITY HAS , BY
RESOLUTION , AUTHORIZED THE TOWN TO CREDIT ALL OR A PERCENTAGE OF SUCH
INTEREST TO THE GENERAL FUND OF THE TOWN .
DULY ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE :
AYES : MR. OLSON , DR. EISENHART , MR. MORRELL , MRS. MONAHAN , MRS . WALTER
NOES : NONE
ABSENT : NONE
DISCUSSION HELD- COUNCILMAN OLSON- WHAT FEE DO WE RETAIN FOR COLLECTING
THE TAXES? SUPERVISOR WALTER- NONE AS OF A FEW YEARS AGO THE SCHOOL
NOW DOES PAY ITS OWN POSTAGEjBEFORE THAT, THE TOWN UNrWROTE THE WHOLE
WHOLE EXPENSE. WE ALSO COLLECT THE COUNTY ' S MONEY WITH NO REIMBURSEMENT
AT ALL . THE BOARD COULD AUTHORIZE BM RESOLUTION THAT WE ASK THE COUNTY
IF THEY WOULD- CONSIDER OUR KEEPING THE INTEREST OR SOME OF THEIR INTEREST
HOWEVERJIT WOULD HAVE TO BE A DECISION ON THE COUNTY BOARD OR THE SCHOOL
BOARD IF WE WOULD BE ENTITLED TO DO SO. THERE IS A SECTION OF THE LAW
WHICH ALSO INDICATES THAT THE TOWN CAN CHARGE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE
FOR THE COLLECTION OF THE TAXES , THIS BOARD WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION
TO SET THE FEE. COUNCILMAN OLSON QUESTIONED THE WORDING OF RESOLUTION I
NO. 32 , WE MAiYi INVEST THE MONIES OR WE WILL INVEST THE MONIES . . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER-WE ARE AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTI:N(� THE RECEIVER TO
INVEST THE MONIES . . . NOTED ONLY SINCE LAST JANUARY WERE MONEY MARKET
ACCOUNTS OPEN TO MUNICIPALTIES-BEFORE THAT MONIES COLLECTED ON A -
DAILY BASIS WERE PLACED IN CHECKING ACCOUNTS. . . AND NO INTEREST {
RECEIVED BECAUSE WE WERE RESTRICTED BY LAW. . .COUNCILMAN OLSON- WE
SHOULD HAVE A FEE FOR COLLECTING TAXES FOR THE SCHOOL AND COUNTY. . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- WE WILL LOOK INTO THE EXPENSES INCURRED IN COLLECTING
THOSE TAXES . . . AND DETERMZ40VHAT °'WOULD BE A FAIR ADMINISTRATIVE PEE . . . j
SUPERVISOR WALTER- WHAT WE ARE DOING BY HAVING TWO,=RESOLUTIOS Sj
IS KEEPING THOSE MONIES SEPERATE.-THE FIRST MONIES SHE IS' COLLECTING
WILL GO INTO ONE ACCOUNT AND THE COUNTY WILL GO INTO ANOTHER ACCOUNT
SO THAT THOSE ARE SPECIFIC AS TO WHEN THEY ARRIVE AND WHEN THEY ARE
GIVEN TO THE COUNTY AND THAT CAN ALSO BE UTILIZED BY THE SCHOOL DIST .
IN THAT ONE IS COLLECTED IN JANUARY AND THE OTHER IN SEPTEMBER.
RESOLUTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING ON LOCAL LAW PROHIBITING PLACING
SNOW AND ICE UPON FIRE HYDRANTS
RESOLUTION*O . 34 , INTRODUCED BY MR. DANIEL OLSON WHO MOVED FOR ITS
ADOPTION , SECONDED BY DR. CHARLES EISENHART :
WHEREAS , IN PAST WINTERS THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES WHERE INDIVIDUALS
OPERATING SNOW BLOWERS HAVE DELIBERATELY COVERED FIRE HYDRANTS AFTER
TOWN CREWS HAVE CLEARED THEM , AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY OCCASIONS WHERE
BUSINESSES PLOWING THEIR PARKING LOTS OR DRIVEWAYS HAVE BURIED HYDRANTS
SO DEEPLY THAT ON OCCASION THE TOWN HAS HAD TO USE A BACKHOE TO UNCOVER
THEM , AND
WHEREAS, THE TOWN BOARD BELIEVES THAT IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE SAFETY
OF THE PUBLIC THAT FIRE HYDRANTS BE UNCOVERED AND AVAILABLE FOR
EMERGENCY USE ; IT IS
RESOLVED, THAT A PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD CONCERNING THE PROPOSED
ADOPTION OF THE LOCAL LAW TO PROHIBIT PLACING SNOW AND ICE UPON
FIRE HYDRANTS AND THAT SAID PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD AT 7 : 30 P . M.
IN THE MEETING ROOM OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY OFFICE BUILDING , BAY
& HAVILAND ROADS IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY , WARREN COUNTY , NEW YORK
ON THE 14TH DAY OF FEBRUARY , 1984 AT WHICH ALL PERSONS INTERESTED IN THE
SUBJECT THEREOF WILL BE HEARD, AND IT IS FURTHER
RESOLVED, THAT THE TOWN CLERK BE HEREBY DIRECTED AND AUTHORIZED TO PUBLISH
AND PROVIDE NOTICE OF SAID PUBLIC HEARING AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY LAW.
DULY ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE :
AYES : MR. OLSON , DR. EISENHART , MR. MORRELL , MRS. MONAHAN , MRS. WALTER
NOES : NONE
ABSENT : NONE
LOCAL LAW
A LOCAL LAW PROHIBITING PLACING SNOW
AND ICE UPON FIRE HYDRANTS
BE IT ENACTED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY.
SECTION 1 . NO PERSON SHALL , IN REMOVING SNOW OR ICE FROM A
SIDEWALK , DRIVEWAY, PARKING LOT OR ELSEWHERE , CAUSE THE SAME TO BE
PLACED UPON OR AROUND ANY FIRE HYDRANT IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
IN A MANNER WHICH '' WOULD OBSCURE , OR OBSTRUCT THE USE OF , SAID
FIRE HYDRANT.
SECTION 2 . A VIOLATION OF THIS LOCAL LAW SHALL CONSTITUTE
AN OFFENSE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE NOT EXCEEDING $25 . 00 FOR THE FIRST
OFFENSE AND A FINE NOT EXCEEDING $50 . 00 FOR A SECOND OR SUBSEQUENT
OFFENSE.
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SECTION 3. THIS LOCAL LAW SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY
UPON FILING THEREOF IN THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE .
DISCUSSION HELD— COUNCILMAN OLSON— QUESTIONED IF A SECTI-ON SHOULD
BE ADDED REGARDING THE PLOWING OF SNOW ; :ACROSS TOWN HIGHWAY . . .
TOWN COUNSEL— NOTED THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE VAT LAW AND WOULD
NOT BE NEEDED IN THIS RESOLUTION . . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER— I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I THINK IT IS A SHAME
THAT WE HAVE TO INSTITUTE SUCH A LAW BUT THIS IS A PROBLEM IN THE
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY IN A COUPLE OF AREAS , BUSINESSES ARE A PROBLEM
. . . IT COULD BE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS IF THIS PRACTICE tGOES ON . . . IN DEALING
WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR ATTITUDES) WE FEEL THAT THIS IS THE
ONLY WAY THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO TAa<LE THE PROBLEM.
RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER FUNDS
RFSOlUTTON Nn - --3-c; , INTRODUCED BY MRS. BETTY MONAHAN WHO MOVED FOR ITS
ADOPTION , SECONDED BY MR. DANIEL OLSON :
RESOLVED, TO TRANSFER $2 ,960 . 00 FROM CF 909 SURPLUS TO CF 1620 . 200
FOR PURCHASE OF WORD PROCESSOR.
DULY ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE :
AYES: MR. OLSON , DR. EISENHART , MR. MORRELL , MRS. MONAHAN , MRS . WALTER
NOES : NONE
ABSENT : NONE
SUPERVISOR WALTER— SOME OF THE MONIES FOR THIS PROCESSOR WAS PART OF
THE EQUPMENT BUDGET FOR THE TOWN CLERK 'S OFFICE . . . AFTER LOOKING AT
SEVERAL WORD PROCESSORS WE DECIDED TO 60 WITH STATE CONTRACT ON A XEROX —
AND IT WILL BE FOR THE USE OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE TOWN THAT HAVE A
j NEED FOR A PROCESSOR IT WILL ALSO BE UTILIZED AS A TYPEWRITER IN THE
TOWN CLERK 'S OFFICE. COUNCILMAN OLSON— I KNOW THAT THIS TYPE OF MACHINE
WILL PAY FOR ITSELF IN LESS THAN A YEAR AND A HALF. . .SUPERVISOR WALTER
NOTED THAT ANOTHER COUNCILMAN REQUESTED THAT MORE THAN ONE BRAND BE
LOOKED AT . . . WE' ARE CONVI4ICE-6 THAT XEROX WILL DO WHAT WE NEED IT TO DO . . .
DISCUSSION- GURNEY LANE RECREATION AREA. . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER— ( MAP USED) IN OCTOBER OF 1983 THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED
MORSE ENGINEERING TO INVESTIGATE THE EXISTING FACILITY AT GURNEY LANE
SITE. THE BOARD WAS CONCERNED AS WAS THE RECREATION COMMISSION ABOUT
THE DETERIORATING CONDITION OF THE POOL AND ALSO THE EXISTING SUPPORT
FACILITY AT GURNEY LANE. IN ADDITION THE PARK POPULATION HAD RISEN
DRASTICALLY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND WAS PUTTING A STRAIN ON WHAT
FACILITIES EXISTED OUT THERE . MR. MORSE WAS DIRECTED TO MAKE A STUDY
TO EVALUATE THE EXISTING RECREATION AREA FOR ITS FUNCTIONAL LAYOUT OF
ITS ACTIVITIES,, PARKING, TRAFFIC FLOW AND TO LOOK AT FUTURE EXPANSION
AND TO MAKE AN ANALYSIS OF THE EXISTING POOL ANB THE SUPPORT FACILITIES
OUT THERE FOR POSSIBLE REHABILITATION. WE ALSO SAID TO MR. MORSE
IF REHABILITATION WAS NOT FEASIBLE, WOULD HE MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS
AS TO A NEW POOL LOCATION LAYOUT AND LOOK AT THE EXISTING FACILITIES
FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES. MR. MORSE REPORT WAS TO RELOCATE THE POOL
AND ALSO SAID THERE WAS NO QUESTION THAT WE NEEDED TO UPDATE THE
FACILITES THAT WERE AT GURNEY LANE . I APPOINTED A SUBCOMMITTEE WHICH
CONSISTED OF MR. MORRELL , MRS. MONAHAN OF THE TOWN BOARD WHO ARE
MEMBERS OF THE RECREATION COMMITTEE MRS. LITTLE CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION
COMMISSION AND MR. GRANGER AND MR. CHAMPAGNE AND MR. HANSEN DIRECTOR OF
THE RECREATION DEPT. THEY HAVE MET WITH MR. MORSE AND HAD SOME DISCUSSION
WITH THEM. I HAVE A MEMO FROM MRS. LITTLE INDICATING THAT THE POOL
COMMITTEE,, "THAT THE TOWN BOARD STRONGLY CONSIDER MR. MORSE RECOMMENDATIONS
AND PROCEED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO INVESTIGATE THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. ' '
IN THE MEAN TIME THE RECREATION COMMISS[ON MEMBERS EXPRESSED THEIR APPROVAL
TO TOWN BOARD -MEMBERS THAT AFTER LOOKING AT MR. MORSE REPORT.. THEY WOULD
AGREE WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD BE CONSIDERING
MR. MORSE' S RECOMMENDATION . THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THE PROJECT WHICH
WOULD BE A FULL RECREATION SITE SUMMER AND WINTER IS ACCORDING TO MR.
MOREE ' S ESTIMATE $468 , 000 . 00 A GRANT OF 50% OF ALL THE CONSTRUCTION
AND ASSOCIATED COSTS IS A POSSIBILITY, FOR THE PROJECT . I HAVE SPOKEN
TO MR. MORSE AND HE HAS INDICATED THAT HE IS WILLING TO WORK WITH MYSELF
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AND MR. HANSEN IN PUTTING TOGETHER AN APPLICATION FOR FUNDING WHICH
WOULD UTjT�IIZE FUNDS UNDER THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUNDS . I
AM BRIF�GAT%IS UP TO THE TOWN BOARD TONIGHT ASKING THEM , IF IT IS THE
CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD TO GO AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT OR AT LEAST TO
SEEK FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES . I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT THIS EVENING,
TO BEGIN WORK ON GRANT APPLICATION AS EARLY AS TOMORROW . I THINK WE
NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM THE TOWN BOARD AS TO WHETHER TO PROCEED.
WE WILL BE COMPLETING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN WEST GLENS FALLS IN THE
SPRINGjTHAT IS A VERY SMALL PARK , THE GURNEY LANE PARCEL IS 23 ACRES-
WE CURRENTLY HAVE RECREATION THERE IN THE SUMMER TIMEjTHERE ARE CROSS
COUNTRY TRAILS THERE NOW4WE WOULD BE UTILIZING THE POND FOR ICE SKATING4
WHEN WE ARE COMPLETED WITH THE PROJECT-ANY BATH HOUSE FACILITY WHICH
WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM THE ONES THAT ARE THERE NOW WOULD HAVE A LOBBY
AREA WHERE THEY CAN BE USED WITH A LARGE CENTRAL FIRE PLACE FOR
THE WINTER TIME,pAS FAR AS BEING A WARMING PLACE FOR ICE SKATING AND
FOR THOSE THAT USE THE CROSS COUNTRY TRAILS . I THINK ALL WE NEED
NOW, WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD A PART THAT SUBCOMMITTEE WHO
INDICATED THEY WISHED TO GO AHEAD I NEED THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD
TO SAY GO AHEAD A DO IT . J
COUNCILMAN MORRELL-I MOVE THAT THE TOWN BOARD PROCEED WITH TFIS PROJECT
AND TO SEEK FUNDING FOR THE UPGRADING OF GURNEY LANE WITH POOL AND BATH
HOUSE FACILITIES . . . SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MONAHAN
DISCUSSION-
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- (USED MAP ) THE PRESENT POOL IS MACADAM SURFACE
1 POOL IN A HALLOW BELOW THE POND AND WHEN WE HAVE A HEAVY DOWN POUR
OF RAIN IN THE SUMMER OUR POOL FILLS UP WITH DIRT AND WE HAVE TO CLOSE
DOWN AND CLEAN IT OUT. . . THE PROPOSAL IS TO MOVE AND HAVE THE POOL UP
WITH A NEW POOL WITH DIVING AT ONE END AND SHALLOW AT THE OTHER END
THE OLD POOL COULD BE FILLED IN AND USED AS A SOFT BALL DIAMOND.
NEW PARKING AREA WOULD BE CREATED. . . THE POND WOULD BE USED IN WINTER
FOR ICE SKATINGjAT PRESENT IT IS USED FOR FISHING. . . WE DO HAVE AN
OPTION TO PURCHASE ADJOINING PROPERTY FOR EXPANSION . . .YOU COULD NOT
PLAN A MORE AESTHETIC ENVIRONMENT FOR RECREATION. . .THIS HAS UNLIMITED
POSSIBILITIES IN THE FUTURE TO DEVELOP THIS INTO A TOTAL RECREATION
AREA YEAR AROUND . . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER-THE ENGINEER HAD TESTS DONE ON THE SOIL AND PART j
OF HIS REPORT NOTED THAT THE SOIL DOES NOT LEND ITSELF ANY KIND OF
STRUCTURE AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE HAD CRACKING IN THE POOL AND WE
HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE PAST FEW YEARS IN SEALING THE CRACKS
THEY WILL ALWAYS OCCUR BECAUSE IT WAS THE WRONG SPOT TO PLACE THE POOL .
COUNCILMAN OLSON- NOTED THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN ON GOING DISCUSSION FOR
OVER TWELVE YEARS . . .
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- FOR THE PUBLIC ' S INFORMATION , THE EXISTING POOL
THE WAY WE ARE OPERATING NOW IS GRANDFATHERED FROM HAVING TO MEET
CERTAIN STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET IF WE CONSTRUCTED
A NEW POOL . . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- THE COST IS NOT JUST CONSTRUCTION BUT LANDSCAPING
OF- THE AREA ENGINEERING COSTS AND ALL RELATED COSTS . . .
COUNCILMAN EISENHART-IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL RISK TO HAVING A DIVING
POOL?
SUPERVISOR WALTER- THIS WOULD BE A SHALLOW DIVE iNO HIGH DIVE . . .
COUNCILMAN OLSON- QUESTIONED IF THE TOWN WOULD BE USING MR. MORSE
AND THE COUNTY PLANNING OFFICE FOR MAKING THE APPLICATIONS OUT . . . i
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SUPERVISOR WALTER-I HAVE TALKED WITH MR. MORSE , WHO FEELS VERY
FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT AND -I HAVE TALKED WITH THE COUNTY PLANNING
OFFICE AND THEY ARE WILLING TO PUT TOGETHER THE GRANT FOR- US , WHAT
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE IS HAVE MR. MORSE PUT IT TOGETHER WITH
THE HELP OF THE PLANNING OFFICE. . .
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COUNCILMAN MORRELL WHO INTRODUCED RESOLUTION NO. 36 AND COUNCILMAN
MONAHAN AGREED TO AMEND RESOLUTION N0. 36 TO READ AS FOLLOWS :
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUPERVISOR TO SEEK FUNDING
RESOLUTION No . 36 , INTRODUCED BY MR. DANIEL MORRELL WHO MOVED FOR ITS
ADOPTION , SECONDED BY MRS . BETTY MONAHAN :
RESOLVED , THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY AUTHORIZE
THE SUPERVISOR TO INVESTIGATE SOURCES OF FUNDING AND TO PREPARE
A GRANT APPLICATION WITH THE AID OF MORSE ENGINEERING AND OTHERS
THAT SHE MAY DESIRE IFOR THE UPGRADING OF THE GURNEY LANE RECREATIONAL
FACILITIES.
DULY ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE :
AYES MR. OLSON , DR. EISENHART , MR. MORRELL , MRS . MONAHAN , MRS . WALTER
NOES : NONE
ABSENT : NONE
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MEMBERS OF TOWN BOARD
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
BAY S HAVILAND ROAD - BOX 98
GLENS FALLS , NEW YORK 12801
RE : OLD GURNEY LANE HIGHWAY ABANDONMENT
DEAR MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD :
RECENTLY I BECAME AWARE THAT IN AUGUST OF 1981 THE TOWN
BOARD FORMERLY ABANDONED THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF ' ' OLD GURNEY
LANE ' ' . I AM WRITING TO REQUEST THAT THE TOWN MODIFY THE
ABANDONED AREA.
AS YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO MY HOME IS BY OLD GURNEY LANE .
WHEN I PURCHASED MY PROPERTY IN 1977 I WAS INFORMED BY TOWN
HIGHWAY OFFICIALS THAT THIS OLD ROAD WAS A TOWN HIGHWAY.
THIS FACT WAS CONFIRMED WHEN I WAS ISSUED A BUILDING PERMIT
IN 1978 . THE TOWN HAS PLOWED OLD GURNEY LANE FROM THE LEWIS
PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH TO THE SOUTHERLY LINE OF THE DIER ' S
PROPERTY SINCE THE WINTER OF 1979-80 . THE TOWN HAS PERFORMED
EXTENSIVE WORK ON THE STREAM BED RUNNING ALONG THE SIDE OF
OLD GURNEY LANE. FURTHER , THE TOWN RECENTLY REGRADED THE
SURFACE OF THIS ROAD.
MY NEIGHBOR , DR. JOHN DIER, INFORMS ME THAT HE
REQUESTED THE TOWN TO ABANDON THAT PORTION OF OLD GURNEY LANE
RUNNING THROUGH HIS PROPERTY . THE TOWN HAS NEVER WORKED THAT
PORTION OF THE ROAD DURING MY PERIOD OF OWNERSHIP . IF WOULD
APPEAR TO BE IN EVERYONE 'S BEST INTEREST TO ABANDON THAT PART
OF OLD GURNEY LANE. I ASK , HOWEVER , THAT THE REMAINDER OF
OLD GURNEY LANE REMAIN AS A TOWN ROAD. THEREFORE , I URGE
THAT THE TOWN BOARD AMEND ITS 1981 RESOLUTION TO PROVIDE THAT
THE ABANDONMENT OF OLD GURNEY LANE BE LIMITED TO THAT PORTION
OF THE OLD ROAD LYING WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE LANDS OWNED BY
JOHN AND MARY JO DIER.
THIS MATTER HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH TOWN HIGHWAY
SUPERINTENDENT PAYL NAYLOR , AND I AM ADVISED THAT HE HAS NO
OBJECTION TO THIS PROPOSAL . 1
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND COOPERATION IN
THIS MATTER.
VERY TRULY YOURS ,
/S/
LYN MATHIAS
TOWN CLERK- ACCORDING TO THE MINUTES THERE WAS A DISCUSSION HELD IN
REGARD TO THE ABANDONMENT OF A PORTION OF GURNEY LANE . . .SUPERVISOR
WALTER STATED THAT OUR COUNSEL HAD NOTIFIED THE BOARD THAT WE DO
NOT NEED A RESOLUTION TO ABANDON A ROAD. . . COUNSEL BRENNAN SPOKE ON
HIGHWAY LAW NO. 205 WHICH READS THE HIGHWAY SUPT. EXECUTES A DOCUMENT
IT IS A RECOMMENDATION OF ABANDONMENT IT IS TO BE EXECUTED ON THAT
SAME DOCUMENT BY THE MAJORITY OF THE TOWN BOARD AND FILED WITH THE
TOWN CLERK. . . COUNCILMAN OLSON THEN ASKED WHO WOULD OWN THE PARCEL
OF PROPERTY? TOWN COUNSEL SAID IT WOULD REVERT TO THE ADJOINING
PROPERTY OWNER. SUPERVISOR WALTER ASKED THAT MR. NESTLE RELATE THIS
TO MR. DEALT .
WE ACTUALLY NEVER HAD A RESOLUTION , NEVER HAD A DOCUMENT� AS FAR AS
I AM CONCERNED GURNEY LANE IS AS IT IS . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- MRS . MATHIAS SHOULD BE NOTIFIED THAT IN AUG. OF 1981
THE TOWN DID NOT ABANDON GURNEY LANE AND AT THIS POINT IT IS A TOWN
ROAD AND WE WILL AWAIT UNTIL SFR NG TO COMMENCE FURTHER ACTION . .
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- QUESTIONED THE NUMBER OF FEET THAT THE TOWN DOES
OWN AND MAINTAIN . -.
TOWN CLERK- 1 . 46 MILES FROM COUNTY ROAD 58 TO THE LAKE GEORGE TOWN
LINE.
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COUNCILMAN EISENHART- HOW MANY HOUSES ARE IN THERE?
WAS PC
N COUNSEL IH�HfDpYARWAS TWO
A TOWNEROAD, CONCERN IS THAT WHEN THE PROPERTY
COUNCILMAN OLSON- IT IS OUR ROAD AND WE WILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT
UNTIL WE DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT. . . .
BID OPENING WATER DEPT. CHEMICALS OPENING 2 :00 P . M. 1-24-84
HOLLAND COMPANY
ADAMS , MASS. LIQUID ALUM $186 . 79 PER TON NON COL. ATTACHED
ASHLAND CHEMICAL LIQUID CHLORINE $ 13. 75 /CWT .
RENSSELAER , N. Y. LIQUID CAUSTIC $165 . 00 PER TON
MONARCH CHEMICAL INC. CHLORINE $ 15. 00 /CWT .
BALLSTON SPA. N.Y. CAUSTIC $189 . 80 PER TON
BIDS TURNED OVER TO MR. FLAHERTY FOR HIS RECOMMENDATION .
REPORTS
-BUILDING & ZONING FINANCIAL REPORT 1983 ON FILE
ANNOUNCEMENTS
SUPERVISOR WALTER-RELATIVE TO THE QUAKER ROAD SEWER PROJECTO
I HAVE MET WITH THE MAYOR AND WE ARE STILL NEGOTIATING AS FAR
AS THE COSTS TO THE TOWN FOR THE USE OF THE CITY SEWER PLANT-
' I WILL NEED A FEW MORE MEETINGS BEFORE I CAN SET UP A PUBLIC
INFORMATION MEETING. . . LOOKING FOR THE DATE OF THE SECOND WEEK
IN FEBRUARY TO HOLD A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING. , ,
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- QUESTIQNED IF THE BOARD WAS GQrNG T4 DQ
} ANYTHING ABOUT A HISTORIIAN . . .
r SUPERVISOR WALTER- I THINK WE NEED A HI'STORIAN . . .NOTED THAT SHE
WOULD BE LOOKING FOR NAMES FOR THIS POST:TION . . .
OPEN FORUM 9 :04 P. M.
MR. BOB STEWART-I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE NORTH QUEENSBURY SEWER
ASSOCIATION . I APPEARED BEFORE THIS BOARD ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO
EXPRESSING OUR CONCERN ABOUT SOME PLAN FOR SEWERAGE ON THE EAST SIDE
OF LAKE GEORGE. SINCE THAT TIME AND AS THE BOARD IS AWARE THE FINAL
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ENVIRONMENTALEEIMPSSACT STATEMENT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN
ISSUED THIS T ONH _H ES II D�FA40goTHRNRJ��Mp§rgATION THAT THERE
L N
THE VILLAGE OF LAKE GEORGE. I THINK IT IS CLEAR TO ALL OOFOUS� THAT
IF THERE IS TO BE ANY PLAN FOR SEWERAGE IN THE LAKE GEORGE BASIN
IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THE NECESSARY FUNDING, IT WILL HAVE TO BE PURSUANT
TO THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT
AND THAT THE DREAM AND THE THOUGHT FOR A LARGE REGIONAL SYSTEM THAT
WOULD -TAKE IT ALL OUT OF THE BASIN THROUGH GLENS FALLS AND INTO
THE HUDSON RIVER ARE LONG SINCE GONE� AS A PRACTICAL MATTER. THE
PROBLEM WE NOW FACE IS THAT THE SO CALLED LAKE GEORGE LAW, AS
i CONTAINED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW OF THE STATE OF
f& YORKIPROHIBITS ANY MUNICIPAL CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MUNICIPAL
'-- SYSTEM WITHIN THE BASIN AND PROHIBITS THE ENLARGEMENT OF ANY OF THE
EXISTING SYSTEMS . OBVIOUSLY IT IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT
THAT POINTS OUT IF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONSARE TO BE FOLLOWED THERE HAS
�- TO BE A CHANGE IN THE SO CALLED LAKE GEORGE LAWOTHE TWO ARE HEAD TO
HEAD IN OPPOSITION. IT SEEMS SO CLEAR THAT ANY HOPE FOR SEWERAGE
HAS TO BE ESSENTIALLY IN LINE WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL STATEMENT
. . THE TIME NOW HAS COME TO ADDRESS THE LAKE GEORGE LAW-TO SEEK AN
AMENDMENT TO IT MIGHT BE NECESSARY SO THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD IMPLANTING
SOME VeE ON THE EAST SIDE OF LAKE GEORGE. I HAVE
DISCUSSE(Y :*,IIS / SOME MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD BEFORE , I KNOW MRS. WALTER
INDICATED TO ME SOME TIME AGO THAT SHE PERSOM�-LLY` =ELT RELUCTANT
TO INVESTING ANY SIGNIFICANT SUM'.': OF MONEY IN PLANS AND STUDIES OF
A SEWER DISTRICT AROUND THE EAST SIDE OF THE LAKE AS LONG AS THE LAKE
GEORGE LAW STOOD AS AN ABSOLUTE LEGAL PROHIBITION TO THOSE PLANS GOING
INTO EFFECT . I DO THINK THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE AND I KNOW THE LAKE
GEORGE ASSOCIATION AND OTHER BOARDS AND GROUPS IN THE AREA ARE NOW
CONTACTING THE STATE LEGISLATURE SEEKING THE APPROPRIATE AMENDMENT
TO THE LAKE GEORGE LAW. I EXPECT THAT THE LEGISLATURE AND THE DEPT.
OF ENCON WHICH WILL BE SUPERVISING THIS WILL CERTAINLY TURN TO THE
RESPECTIVE TOWNS AND WONDER WHAT YOUR POSITIONS WILL BE AS TO SUCH
A PROPOSED CHANGE. I COME TONIGHT TO ASK THAT THIS BOARD CONTACT
THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND INDICATE THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE FEELING
OF THIS BOARD THAT THE LAKE GEORGE LAW BE REVIEWED AND AMENDED TO
SUCH EXTENT THAT MAY BE NECESSARY SO THAT WE CAN PRECEED WITH THE
RECOMMENDATION FOR SEWERAGE CONTAINED IN THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
STATEMENT AND BEGIN TO MAKE SOME PROGRESS TOWARD THAT FINAL GOAL.
MR. SALVATORE- I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THE TOWN BOARD CONSIDER
THE EMPLOYMENT OF A TOWN ENGINEER ON YOUR STAFF, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
SEWAGE COLLECTION IN THE QUAKER ROAD AREA , WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
SEWAGE COLLECTION IN N0. QUEENSBURY. THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF
WORK DONE. . . THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT SUGGESTS THAT WE
COLLECT SEWAGE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE LAKE BUT THE PARAMETERS FOR
ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DEFINED-THEY ARE
NOT GOING TO BE EASY TO MEET-THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE EASY TO INTEZRPOWT .
AND I REALLY THINK YOU ARE GOING TO NEED A QUALIFIED PERSON ON YOUR
STAFF TO HANDLE THIS WORK.
COUNCILMAN OLSON- MY SUGGESTION JUST HEARING THIS , THIS EVENINGOWOULD
BE INITIALLY WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS.* WE WOULD PROBABLY AS WE MOVE:-`-
ALONG WE WOULD BE NEEDING AN ENGINEER IN THE NEAR FUTUREjBUT I THINK
THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER INSTEAD OF USING A FIRM TO PUT "THE INFORMATION
TOGETHERyWE HAVE ALREADY COLLECTED AND THE DATA THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE
TOWN ALONG WITH THE REPORT AND PROBABLY HIRE A CONSULTING FIRM.
�`.. MR. SALVATORE- THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT YOU WILL BE NEEDING A CONSULTING
ENGINEERING FIRM TO PERFORM THE DETAILS* BUT IF YOU SEND A CONSULTING
ENGINEERING FIRM OUT TO CHASE EVERY FOUL BALL TO GATHER DATA AND PUT
THIS TOGETHERjYOU ARE GOING TO BE PAYING DIRECT COSTS OVER-HEAD AND PROFIT
FOR EVERY MAN HOUR THAT FIRM ENGAGES IN. YOU ARE MUCH FURTHER AHEAD
TO HAVE SOMEONE ON YOUR OWN STAFF FOR THAT] AND NOT ONLY THAT YOU HAVE
CONTINUITY.
SUPERVISOR WALTER- MR. SALVATORE MAY I MAKE A COMMENT ON WHAT YOU HAVE
SAID, I HAVE SAID THAT FOR ANY NUMBER OF YEARSjTHAT THIS TOWN HAS GROWN
TO A POINT WHERE WE DO NEED AN ENGINEER ON OUR STAFF AS A CONSULTANT
TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND ALSO THE TOWN BOARD IN ITS VARIOUS PROJECTS.
. . . I VERY STRONGLY FEEL THAT THE TOWN DOES SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON
ENGINEERING AND YOUR THOUGHTS THAT AN ENGINEER WHO IS ON THE STAFF DOES
PROVIDE CONTI"NUITY FROM ONE PROJECT TO ANOTHER WTTHOUT VARIOUS REVIEWS
OF DATA , WE',, CERTAINLY HAVE ENGINEERS THAT ARE AVArLA.BLE. . .
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MR. SALVATORE- THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT SUGGESTS A SO CALLED
SEWER MANAGEMENT AGENCY , IT IS ANYONE' S GUESS WHAT THIS- IS WE HAVE
HEARD THAT THERE IS ONE IN EXISTANCE IN CALIFORNIA SO THIS SO CALLED
SEWER MANAGEMENT AGENCY COULD BE A REAL FIRST IN THIS AREA. . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ENVIROMENTAL
IMPACT STATEMENT DIES AS FAR AS LAKE GEORGE WAS CONCERNED WAS TO
RESTRICT OPTIONS AS WHAT CAN BE DONE UP THERE AND THAT WAS IN READING
IT OVERjTHAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT OCCURED TO ME , I KNOW AS FAR
AS QUAKER ROAD WE WERE WAITING FOR THE IMPACT STATMENT TO COME ALTHOUGH
WE HAD INDICATIONS OF WHAT IT WAS GOING TO SAY AS FAR AS THAT AREA AND
A LOT OF NEBULOUS RESPONSES AS FAR AS THE LAKE. THE IMPACT STATEMENT
COMING BACK GIVES US A LOT OF LEEWAY IN THE PROJECT THAT WEARE
WORKING ON AND WHAT THE TOWN BOARD IS GOING TO DO WITH THE IMPACT
STATEMENT IS TO USE A GREAT DEAL OF THAT , IN FACT MOST OF THAT AS
OUR ENVIROMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT FOR THE QUAKER ROAD PROJECT . AS
FAR AS LAKE GEORGE IS CONCERNED IT IS HIGH TIME , I THINK MR. STEWART
PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH , I INDICATED AS FAR AS LAKE GEORGE IS CONCERNED
I REALLY WANT TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT STATEMENT SAID BECAUSE I FELT THAT
WE REALLY NEEDED TO GO ALONG WITH WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IN THE IMPACT
STATEMENT. THEY BEING EPA� IN HOPES OF GETTING AID , ANY PROJECT THAT WE
WOULD UNDERTAKE AS FAR AS SEWERING IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE
BECAUSE THE KINDS OF CONDITIONS WE ARE GOING TO MEET] SOILS , LEDGESJWHAT
EVER IS WHAT HAVE CAUSED THE PROBLEMS THERE ALONG WITH DENSITY. IN
READING THE IMPACT STATEMENT IT DOES RESTRICT US TO WHAT THEY WILL BE
ALLOWING UP THERE AND VERY DEFINITELY HAVE AN ENGINEER TAKE A LOOK AT
THAT TO SEE WHETHER THOSE OPTIONS ARE REALLY THE WAY TO GO.
COUNCILMAN OLSON- WE SHOULD HAVE A RESOLUTION FAVORABLY REQUESTING
A CHANGE IN THE LAKE GEORGE LAW.
SUPERVISOR WALTER- NOTED THAT THE TOWN COUNSEL-WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE
LAKE GEORGE LAW BEFORE WE PASS A RESOLUTION . . .
MR. SALVATORE- THE LAKE GEORGE LAW PROHIBITS THE DISCHARGE OF SEWAGE
OR . . . IN THE LAKE GEORGE BASIN WITH TWO EXCEPTIONSjTHE SEWAGE TREATMENT
PLANT IN BOLTON LANDING AND THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT IN LAKE GEORGE.
BASICALLY IT COULD MAKE EVERY ONE OF OUR "ON SITE SEPTIC SYSTEMS ILLEGAL '
SUPERVISOR WALTER- WHEN THE LAKE GEORGE LAW -WAS BEING AMENDED I WAS
WORKING IN THE LEGISLATURE IN ALBANY AND I WOULD HAVE TO SAY I LOBBIED
VERY HARD TO KEEP THE LAW AS IT WAS . AMENDING THE LAW WAS GOING TO
PUT RESTRICTIONS ON ALL THE COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE BASIN TO DO ANY KIND
OF TREATMENT PROJECTS , FROM LAKE GEORGE EXPANDING THEIR PLANTS OR QUEENS-
BURY IN WHAT TO DO. I WOULD SAYj IT WAS A SHAME THAT IT WAS EVER AMENDED4
ALTHOUGH THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF LOBBYING DOWN THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE
OF THE COIN TO HAVE IT AMENDED AND IT WAS DOME ABOUT 3 O ' CLOCK IN THE
MORNING OF A VERY LATE DAY IN THE LEGISLATURE. I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS IN
SENDING A RESOLUTION TO THE LEGISLATURE SAYING THAT THE TOWN BOARD WOULD
BE IN FAVOR OF AMENDING THE AMENDMENT TO READ AS AT ONCE DID BUT ON THE
OTHER HAND I WONDER IF COUNSEL SHOULD GIVE US ANY LEGAL ADVICE BEFORE
WE WORD A RESOLUTION TO BE SENT TO ALBANY.
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- PROPOSED A RESOLUTION AS FOLLOWS :
BE IT RESOLVED THAT THIS BOARD OF THE TOWN_CF QUEENSBURY WILL GO ON
RECORD AS RECOMMENDING SUCH AN AMENDMENT TO THAT PORTION OF THE ENVIRONMEN-
TAL LAW OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK WHICH IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS
THE LAKE GEORGE LAW AS MAY BE NECESSARY AND PROPER] SO AS TO
ELIMINATE ANY LEGAL OBSTACLE FOR THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF SEWARAGE ',-)
WITHIN THE LAKE GEORGE BASIN , AS PROPOSED BY THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT STATEMENT OF THE UNITED STATES ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
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PUBLISHED IN JANUARY OF 1984 .
TOWN COUNSEL-NOTED HE HAD NOT SEEN THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION AND ''WOULD
NOT SAY IF I WOULD HAVE WORDED IT THAT WAY OR NOT. . .
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- DO YOU SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS?
TOWN COUNSEL- I DO NOT KNOW.
MR. S!EWART- THIS RESOLUTION IS SOMETHING I HAVE URGED , MY THOUGHT WAS
NOT TO TRY AND GET INTO THE PERCISE LANGUAGE OF WHAT THE LAKE GEORGE
LAW MIGHT BE AMENDED-WHAT I WOULD EXPECT WOULD BE A VARIOUS DRAFTS
OF WHAT THE LAW MIGHT BE AMENDED-I ASSUME THE BILL DRAFTING DEPT . OF
THE LEGISLATURE WOULD BE INVOLVED13THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WOULD BE
INVOLVED, EVENTUALLY SOMEONE WOULD COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE AS TO
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HOW THEY WOULD PROPOSE THEIR AMENDMENT. AT THAT POINT� THIS BOARD.,
AS WELL AS OTHER AGENCIES IN THE AREA COULD EXPRESS THEIR OPINION
AS TO THE LANGUAGE BEING USED. I DID NOT WANT TO GET INTO THAT
FINE DETAIL TONIGHT-IT WAS SIMPLY A RESOLUTION SUGGESTING TO THE
STATE LEGISLATURE, THAT IN PRINCIPAL THIS BOARD FAVORED AN AMENDMENT
TO THE LAKE GEORGE LAR., WOULD BE NECESSARY SO WE COULD GO FORWARD
WITH OUR PLANNING AND STUDIES TO RESOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.
SUPERVISOR WALTER- THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS INTRODUCED HERE IS THAT TO
SIT HERE UNTIL SOMETI4 NG FURTHER GETS RESOLVED TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE
OR ARE WE RESOLVING TO SEND THIS ON TO THE` LEGILATURE IN WHICH CASE
YOU WOULD WANT TO BE MORE EXACT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- IT SEEMS TO ME YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ATTORNEY
GIVE US THE RESOLUTION. . .
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE THEM
AWARE TWO INDIVIDUAL PROBLEMS IN TWO INDIVIDUAL AREAS THAT HAVE TO
BE TREATED INDIVIDUALLY. SO THAT THEY WILL BE RECEPTIVE TO LOOKING
AT THE NEEDS.
COUNCILMAN OLSON- I AGREE , WE ARE NOT WRITING THE LAW,
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- THE TOWN OF LAKE GEORGE HAS ITS PROBLEMS , BOLTON
HAS ITS PROBLEMS, HAGUE. HAS ITS PROBLEMSJBUT TO HAVE A BLANKET LAW
THE WAY THEY DO RESTRICTS EVERYBODY--THIS RESOLUTION IS ASKING THEM
TO SHOW SOME CONSIDERATION TO THE VARIOUS SPECIFIC AREAS RATHER THAN
TO SPECIFY WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- I WOULD SAY HAVING WORKED IN THE LEGISLATUREjTHAT THE
MORE EXACT YOUR RESOLUTION ISJTHE MORE ATTENTION IT WILL BE GIVEN .
COUNCILMAN OLSON- WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO IS GET A RESOLUTION BEFORE
OUR REPRESENTATIVES IN THE STATE , TELLING HIM WE ARE NOT PLEASED WITH
THE PRESENT LAKE GEORGE LAWS-WE WANT TO CONFORMjWE WANT TO BE ABLE TO
MOiVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY
PUT OUT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND AS MR. S`i'EWART POINTED OUT OTHER
�., TOWNS AND GROUPS ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTING RESOLUTIONS AND LETTERS4
AND ONCE THIS STUFF COMES IN THAT WOULD BE LOBBYINGOTHEY WILL SIT DOWN
AND AMEND THE LAW TO MAKE IT WORKABLE SO THESE PROJECTS CAN AT LEAST
GO AHEAD. . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- YOU CAN WRITE A LETTER AND DO THAT .
COUNCILMAN OLSON- I THINK A RESOLUTION BY THE BOARD HOLDSMORE STRENGTH
AND HAS MORE . . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- NOT IF IT IS A BROAD RESOLUTION .
COUNCILMAN OLSON- THAT IS NOT SUCH A BROAD RESOLUTION-IT IS REALLY TELLING
IN A RESOLUTION , SAYING IN A RESOLUTION WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- WHAT YOU ARE SAYING COULD BE DONE IN A LETTER FROM
THE SUPERVISOR' S OFFICE , IT IS THE CONSENSUS OF THE TOWN BOARD THAT THE
LAW NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT INTO CONFORMITY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE
IMPACT STATEMENT , SO WE CAN GO FORWARD IN SOLVING THESE PROBLEMS.
SUPERVISOR WALTER- I WOULD SAY WE COULD ACCOMPLISH THAT THIS EVENING AND
IF THE BOARD WISHES TO TAKE ACTION AS FAR AS A RESOLUTION JTHAT IT BE
DRAWN UP BY THE ATTORNEY AND PASSED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD.
COUNCILMAN OLSON- THE RESOLUTION WAS INTRODUCED AND READ AND I WILL
SECOND THE RESOLUTION. IN ADDITION TO THE RESOLUTION YOU ARE SAYING
A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FROM THE TOWN BOARD AND WI"TH THIS A LETTER
DRAWN UP BY THE ATTORNEY , THIS I:S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN--NO , THE FIRST STEP SHOULD BE A LETTER STATING THAT IT
IS THE BOARD' S CONSENSUS THAT SOMETHING SHOULD SE DONEJTHEN THE RESOLUTION
WOULD FOLLOW THAT IN MORE DETAIL. RIGHT NOW WE WANT TO GIVE FRAN THE
AUTHORITY TO WRITE A LETTER SAYING IT IS THE CONSENSUS OF THE TOWN BOARD
THAT THIS LAW NEECSTO BE AMENDED TO MAKE IT COMPATABLE WITH THE IMPACT
STATEMENT . AFTER WE RESEARCH. THIS A LITTLE MOREIWE WILL COME UP WITH
A MORE FORMAL RESOLUTION.
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COUNCILMAN OLSON- WHY WOULD IT NOT EXPRESS THE FEELINGS OF THE TOWN
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN NO. QUEENSBURYI T AM SURE THEY ARE GOING TO
WRITE LETTERS AND LOBBY FOR THEIR OWN GROUP , WHY WOULDN'T THE RESOLUTION
OF APPROVAL FROM THIS BOARD INFLUENCE THE PEOPLE IN ALBANY , THAT LOOK
AT THIS SHOWING THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY IS BEHIND
THESE PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
SUPERVISOR WALTER- MOST RESOLUTIONS START WITH A WHEREAS AND STATE A
SPECIFIC REASON. THIS ONE STARTS OUT BE IT RESOLVED , THERE ARE GENERALLY
SEVERAL WHEREAS' S TO COME UPON A RESOLVED AS TO WHY WE HAVE RESOLVED
TO MAKE THIS PARTICULAR ACTION AND THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING I THINK
YOU NEED TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO PUT IN , I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THE
CONCEPT OF :GOING FORWARD WITH TAKING SOME KIND OF ACTION TO AMEND
THE LAKE GEORGE LAW BUT I FEEL IN ORDER TO GET THE BEST RESULTS
THAT WE SHOULD DO IT THE RIGHT AND CORRECT WAY.
COUNCILMAN MORRELL— WE HAVE A RESOLUTION , LET WILSON PUT THE
WHEREAS ' S IN . . .
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COUNCILMAN MONAHAN— I: DO NOT LIKE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
RESOLUTION THAT I VOTE ON• THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW RESOLUTIONS I DID
NOT LIKE AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN DONE THAT WAY.
SUPERVISOR WALTER- BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF THIS SITUATION MANY OF THE
SAME LEGISLATORS ARE THERE THAT WERE ASKED TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION
THREE YEARS AGO , IT MUST HAVE BEEN FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO THAT THE
RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, MANY OF THE SAME LEGISLATORS ARE THERE. IT IS
KIND OF LIKE WHEN THE HOME SENATOR AND ASSEMBLYMAN INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT EFFECT THEM IN THEIR PARTICULAR DISTRICT THAT
THEY WILL HAVE THE OTHER LEGISLATORS GO ALONG WITH THEM4NOW YOU HAVE GOT
ONE OF THE SAME LEGISLATORS COMING UP AND SAYING WE ASKED FOR THIS FOUR
;ND A HALF YEARS AGO BUT NOW WE WANT IT REVERSED THE OTHER LEGISLATORS
iN THE ASSEMBLY AND HOUSE ARE GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN WHY. I DO NOT
WANT THIS TO BE MISCONSTRUED AS BEING OPPOSED I JUST THINK IT SHOULD
BE DONE PROCEDURALLY CORRECT.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- I THINK YOU MAKE SOME VERY VALID ARGUMENTS. YOU
DO NOT GO AND ASK FOR SOMETHING WITHOUT STATING A REASON BEHIND IT,
IN AN ORDERLY AND LOGICAL MANNER, I THINK IT IS WORTH TAKING A LITTLE
EXTRA TIME TO GET THAT IN THE PROPER WAY.
COUNCILMAN OLSON-WOULDN 'T THIS BE DONE AT A LATER POINT WITH OUR
REPRESENTATIVES?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- NO
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- WHAT IS YOUR OPINION Doc?
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- I AM INCLINED - TO AGREE WITH MRS. WALTER , AS LONG
AS WE HAVE AN-ATTORNEYS HE SHOULD RESEARCH THIS . . .
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- I AM WILLING TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION IF WE COULD HAVE
OUR LEARNED COUNSEL PREPARE A BETTER ONE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
COUNCILMAN OLSON- I SECONDED THE RESOLUTION , I WILL WITHDRAW MY SECOND. . .
IF THE ATTORNEY WILL HAVE THE NECESSARY LETTER AND RESOLUTION PREPARED
AND HAVE IT AVAILABLE FOR THE SUPERVISOR AND COUNCILMAN BY FRIDAY
BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, SO WE WILL HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT . . .SO WE
CAN TAKE ACTION AT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING.
SUPERVISOR WALTER- I WILL BE MOST HAPPY TO GET ON THE TELEPHONE
AND CALL THOSE OFFICES AND SAY THIS' IS FORTHCOMING , BUT I FEEL
VERY STRONGLY THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT AN ARGUMENT AND WE
WANT IT TO BE BELIEVABLE AND CREDITABLE,, THAT WE SHOULD 00 IT
RIGHT .
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- I WILL CALL STAFFORD AND D'ANDREA. . . FURTHER-MORE
THE RESOLUTION SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT CHAIRMAN OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL
-COMMITTEE BOTH THE HOUSE` :AND.-TRE=SENATE. I THINK IT MUST APPEAR
THAT NO. QUEENSBURY IS IN THE TOWN AND MANY OF THE LAKE GEORGE
/DDRESSES ARE PART OF THE TOWN.
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COUNCILMAN MONAHAN— NOTED THAT SHE WOULD NOT BE PRESENT FOR THE
NEXT MEETING BUT THAT SHE WAS IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION AMENDING
THE LAKE GEORGE LAW.
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AUDIT OF BILLS
RESOLUTION NO . 37 . INTRODUCED BY MR. DANIEL MORRELL WHO MOVED FOR ITS
ADOPTION , SECONDED BY MRS. BETTY MONAHAN :
RESOLVED, THAT AUDIT OF BILLS:-�AS APPEARS ON ABSTRACT NO . 84-1D
AND NUMBERED 94 AND TOTALING $$2986. 00 BE AND HEREBY IS
APPROVED.
DULY ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE :
AYES : MR. OLSON , DR. EISENHART , MR. MORRELL , MRS. MONAHAN „ MRS. WALTER
NOES : NONE
ABSENT : NONE
RESOLUTION TO HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO . 38 , INTRODUCED BY MR. DANIEL OLSON WHO MOVED FOR ITS
ADOPTION , SECONDED BY DR. CHARLES EISENHART :
RESOLVED, THAT THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY MOVES INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION
TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS.
DULY ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOM NG VOTE :
AYES : MR. OLSON , DR. EISENHART , MR. MORRELL , MRS . MONAHAN , MRS. WALTER
NOES : NONE
ABSENT ; NONE
ON MOTION THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED.
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RESPECTFULLY ., SUBMITTED ,
DONALD A. CHASE , TOWN CLERK