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QUEENSBURYPLANNINGBOARD MEETING
FIRSTREGULAR MEETING
JULYI9TH 2O22
INDEX
Site Plan No. 33-2021 333 Cleverdale,LLC/San Souci 2.
Special Use Permit 2-2021 Tax Map No.226.12-1-43,226.12-1-44
FURTHER TABLING
Site Plan No.51-2021 David&Pamela West 3.
Freshwater Wetlands 10-2022 Tax Map No.226.15-1-17
ZBA RECOMMENDATION
FURTHER TABLING BY APPLICANT
Site Plan No.40-2021 David&Pamela Way 4.
ONE YEAR EXTENSION Tax Map No.2S9.17-1-23
Site Plan No. 34-2022 Par 27,LLC 4.
SEEK LEAD AGENCY Tax Map No.290.5-1-50.1,290.6-1-11
Site Plan No. 66-2021 CVE North America,Inc. 5.
Freshwater Wetlands 3-2021 Tax Map No. 303.11-1-4.1;303.15-1-25.2;303.11-1-5
Special Use Permit 4-2021
PZ 0720-2021
Site Plan No.41-2022 Robert&Jean Tarrant 7.
Tax Map No.226.12-1-S2
Site Plan No.42-2022 Daniel Zotto 11.
Tax Map No.2S9.9-1-S5
Site Plan No.45-2022 Christopher Detmer 12.
Freshwater Wetlands 9-2022 Tax Map No.296.11-1-9
ZBA RECOMMENDATION
Site Plan No.47-2022 Harley Griffiths 14.
ZBA RECOMMENDATION Tax Map No.226.12-1-S6
Subdivision No. 6-2022 Frank Parillo 16.
PRELIMINARY STAGE Tax Map No. 309.13-2-2
Subdivision No.7-2022
FINAL STAGE
ZBA RECOMMENDATION
Site Plan No.46-2022 Matt Flint/Mary Jane Canale 1S.
Tax Map No. 302.6-1-55.1
Site Plan No.4S-2022 Tyler Russell 20.
Tax Map No. 301.E-1-19
THESE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY ADOPTED MINUTES AND ARE SUBJECT TO BOARD AND STAFF
REVISIONS. REVISIONS WILL APPEAR ON THE FOLLOWING MONTH'S MINUTES(IF ANY)AND
WILL STATE SUCH APPROVAL OF SAID MINUTES.
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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
FIRST REGULAR MEETING
JULY 19,2022
7.00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
STEPHEN TRAVER,CHAIRMAN
DAVID DEEB,VICE CHAIRMAN
MICHAEL DIXON,SECRETARY
WARREN LONGACKER
BRADY STARK
JACKSON LA SARSO
BRAD MAGOWAN
LAND USE PLANNER-LAURA MOORE
STENOGRAPHER-MARIA GAGLIARDI
MR.TRAVER-Good evening,ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Town of Queensbury Planning Board
meeting for Tuesday,July 19,2022. This is our first meeting for the month of July and our fifteenth meeting
thus far for the year. Please make note of the illuminated exit signs. In the event of an emergency those
are the emergency exits. If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, if you would either turn the
ringer off, turn the device off or turn the ringer off so as not to interrupt our proceedings we would
appreciate that. And also we ask that if you need to talk amongst yourselves,other than during the public
hearing,if you would go to the outer lobby to have that discussion we'd appreciate it. We do record the
minutes for the meeting and we want to be able to deliberate and make sure that we understand exactly
what's being said by all. With that we'll start with some of our administrative items. The first being
approval of minutes from the May meetings. We had actually three meetings in May,May 17,May 19 and
May 26.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
May 17,2022
May 29,2022
May 26,2022
MOTION TO APPROVE THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES OF MAY
17th, 2022, MAY 19th, 2022 AND MAY 26th, 2022, Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its
adoption,seconded by Jackson LaSarso:
Duly adopted this 19th day of July,2022,by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker, Mr. Stark,Mr. LaSarso, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Magowan
MR. TRAVER-Next we have to talk about one of our meetings in August. The meeting we had on our
calendar for August 23rd,the room is unavailable that night. So Staff have helped us by giving us a couple
of options. We can meeting on Thursday August 25th or Tuesday August 30,as an alternative to the 23rd
and we need to vote on that. I'm actually available either date. My personal preference would be the 25th
but I'm open to the Board's availability and preferences.
MR. DEEB-The 25th
MR. LA SARSO-I like the 25th
MR. TRAVER-The 25th? All right
MR. DIXON-The 25th
MR. TRAVER-All right. Then we have a draft motion to make that change.
RESOLUTION CHANGING DATE OF 2nd AUGUST 2022 PLANNING BOARD MEETING
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MOTION TO CHANGE SECOND AUGUST PLANNING BOARD MEETING FROM AUGUST 23,
2022 TO AUGUST 25, 2022 Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption, seconded by
Warren Longacker.
Duly adopted this 19th day of July 2022,by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Dixon, Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. LaSarso, Mr. Deeb,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Magowan
MR. TRAVER-Next we have Site Plan 33-2021 for Cleverdale LLC/San Souci.
ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS
SITE PLAN 33-2021 333 CLEVERDALE,LLC/SAN SOUCI REQUEST TO TABLE UNTIL AUGUST
16,2022
JON ZAPPER, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-This is a tabling request. Now the original request was for August,but I understand we
have not received updated information
MR. ZAPPER-Good evening, everyone. Jon Lapper,for the record. So I apologize for my clients. They
just haven't been able to focus on this. When they're trying to make some improvements to the property.
The guys as we talked about when we were here a while ago were local landowners that didn't want San
Souci to go away because it was asocial resource for the neighborhood. They're not restaurateurs,but
now they have staffing issues like every other restaurant and at the same the project engineers are busy
with all the transfer septic laws and haven't given them attention. So it's kind of a combination of stuff,
but they want to do some work on the property. So Laura said everyone's getting a little impatient because
it keeps getting tabled. So I ask if it could be tabled one more time until September submission for an
October meeting and I think that's realistic and again I apologize.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So you'd be requesting a tabling,instead of August,to October. Is that correct?
MR. ZAPPER-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Laura,I know that's far out for the agenda. Any preference in terms of the first or
second?
MRS. MOORE-No preference.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Why don't we maybe go for the first meeting which would be October I8. So this
would be a consideration of a tabling to the October I8 Board meeting, and open it up for discussion from
the Planning Board members. Any concerns? Okay. We have a draft resolution.
RESOLUTION TABLING SP#33-2021 333 CLEVERDALE,LLC/SAN SOUCI
Applicant requests approval of outdoor seating area of 24 seats for the restaurant but occurring on the
adjacent parcel(337 Cleverdale Rd.). The restaurant (333 Cleverdale Rd.)had previous approvals for 105
seats—that is to remain with no changes. Seating location to occur on the main floor and outdoors—area
on the first floor to be used for waiting area of 10 people maximum—no seating on first floor. Restaurant
parcel subject to area variance for permeability(333 Cleverdale Rd.). Adjacent parcel(337 Cleverdale Rd.)
subject to area variance for permeability,density and setbacks. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040,179-4-090
& 179.10 of the Zoning Ordinance, food service in a WR zone shall be subject to Planning Board review
and approval.
MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN 33-2021 333 CLEVERDALE LLC/SAN SOUCI. Introduced by
Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,seconded by Brad Magowan.
Tabled until the October 18,2022 Planning Board meeting at the request of the applicant with information
due by September 15`h,2022.
Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
MRS. MOORE-Can you additionally add information due by September deadline.
MR. DIXON-Do you want that September 18`h?
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MR. TRAVER-It's normally the 15`h
MRS. MOORE-It's normally the 15`h. But if it falls on a weekend,it ends up being different.
MR. DIXON-Well,it doesn't. Let me just re-do that,then.
MR. MAGOWAN-That's a Saturday,right?
MR. TRAVER-No,the 18`h is the first meeting. That's a Tuesday.
MR. MAGOWAN-Yes,but due by the 15`h. It's all right that it's a Saturday?
MR. DIXON-The 15`h is a Thursday.
MRS. MOORE-Of September.
MR. MAGOWAN-September. Sorry,I'm looking at October.
AYES: Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. ZAPPER-Thank you.
SITE PLAN NO. 51-2021 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. BRETT &z PAMELA WEST (MAIN HOUSE).
AGENT(S): EDP. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANTS. ZONING: WR. LOCATION: 106
BAY PARKWAY. (REVISED 611 512 0 2 2)APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEMO EXISTING HOME
AND SHED TO CONSTRUCT A NEW 2 STORY HOME WITH A 5,436 SQ. FT. FOOTPRINT
WITH A GARAGE. ALSO, INCLUDED IS INSTALLATION OF PERMEABLE PAVERS FOR
PATIO AND DRIVEWAY AREAS, AND A COVERED WALKWAY BETWEEN THE TWO
PROPERTIES. THE NEW FLOOR AREA WILL BE 8,670 SQ. FT. WHERE THE MAXIMUM
ALLOWED IS 8,687 SQ.FT. THE PROJECT INCLUDES SITE WORK FOR NEW LANDSCAPING
SHORELINE AND RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, SEPTIC AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
ADDITIONALLY WORK TO BE DONE IS WITHIN 100 FEET OF A DESIGNATED WETLAND.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040,179-6-065,CHAPTER 147,SITE PLAN FOR NEW FLOOR
AREA IN A CEA,WORK ADJACENT TO WETLAND,AND HARD SURFACING WITHIN 50 FT.
OF THE SHORELINE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR SETBACKS TO WETLANDS. PLANNING BOARD SHALL
PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS
REFERENCE: 53-2017 SEPTIC VAR.;AV 47-2007&z SP 39-2007—BOATHOUSE;SP PZ 89-2016&z
SP PZ 210-2016 &z AV 95-2016 — ADDITION; SP 37-2009; AV 57-2021; SP 52-2021, AV 30-2022.
WARREN CO.REFERRAL: AUGUST 2021,FEBRUARY 2022 (STORMWATER DEVICE);JULY
2022(FWW). SITE INFORMATION: APA,CEA,LGPC. LOT SIZE: 091 ACRE. TAX MAP NO.
226.15-1-17. SECTION: 179-3-040;179-6-065,147.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you. I understand we have information, as well, that one of the applications this
evening which does not have a public hearing,but just to make the audience aware, the Brett &Pamela
West consideration for variances on the part of the Planning Board this evening is going to be tabled to
next month,Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Correct. I'm asking that the Board table that application to the first meeting in August.
MR. TRAVER-Okay, which would be the 16`h. Any concerns or discussion about that? This is just for
updated information. We're also awaiting engineering comments as well. I don't think we have a draft
resolution.
RESOLUTION TABLING SP#51-2021&FWW 10=2022 BRETT&PAMELA WEST
(Revised 6/15/2022) Applicant proposes to demo existing home and shed to construct a new two story
home with a 5,436 sq.ft.footprint with a garage.Also included is installation of permeable pavers for patio,
driveway areas and a covered walkway between the two properties. The new floor area will be 8,670 sq.ft.
where the maximum allowed is 8,687 sq.ft.. The project includes site work for new landscaping shoreline
and residential house,septic,and stormwater management. The project includes a lot line adjustment but
no change to lot size. Additionally, work to be done is within 100 feet of a designated wetland. Pursuant
to chapter 179-3-040, 179-6-065, Chapter 94, Chapter 147, site plan for a new floor area in a CEA, work
adjacent to wetland, and hard surfacing within 50 ft. of the shoreline shall be subject to Planning Board
review and approval.
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MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN 51-2022 &z FRESHWATER WETLANDS 10-2022 BRETT &z
PAMELA WEST(MAIN HOUSE). Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,seconded
by Jackson LaSarso.
Tabled until the August 16`h,2022 Planning Board meeting at the request of the applicant.
Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso, Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
SITE PLAN 40-2021 DAVID&z PAMELA WAY REQUEST FOR ONE YEAR EXTENSION
MR. TRAVER-Next Administrative Item is Site Plan 40-2021. This is for David and Pamela Way. This
is a request for a one year extension. Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So they're not able to find someone to do the work and again I think every contractor in
the world in this area is backed up,and I think they fell into that realm of they couldn't find someone. So
they're asking for an extension. This is their first extension request.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. Any concerns, discussion from members of the Board? Okay. I guess
we have a draft resolution.
RESOLUTION TO GRANT A ONE YEAR EXTENSION SP#40-2021 DAVID&PAMELA WAY
Applicant proposed a 259 sq.ft.single story addition to an existing 51S sq.ft.single story home. The project
includes site work removing a portion of a patio, installation of cave trenches and new septic system.
Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040,179-4-010,179-6-065&179-5-040 of the Zoning Ordinance,new floor area
in a CEA shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
The Planning Board approved Site Plan 40-2021 on July 27,2021.
MOTION TO APPROVE A ONE YEAR EXTENSION FOR SITE PLAN 40-2021 DAVID&z PAMELA
WAY. Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,seconded by Brad Magowan.
Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-And, Laura, do I understand that Wilcox is going to be heard next week so we don't need
to?
MRS. MOORE-I apologize. The extension request is on the next week's agenda.
MR. TRAVER-I gotcha. Okay. All right. Then the next administrative item is Site Plan 34-2022. This
is for Par 27,LLC.
SITE PLAN 34-2022 PAR 27,LLC—PLANNING BOARD SEEKS LEAD AGENCY STATUS
MR. TRAVER-This is for the Planning Board to Seek Lead Agency Status in connection with Site Plan 34-
2022. Laura?
MRS. MOORE-This application we heard it and the Board did make a decision. It was found out that we
didn't refer the information to APA because that zone occurs within the Adirondack Park. So we also
need to refer that information to the APA,get their feedback if they would accept the Planning Board being
Lead Agency. The Town Board already consented, but the APA has to consent, or they provide us
information within 30 days, and if they don't provide us with information within 30 days, you
automatically become Lead Agency.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MRS. MOORE-I apologize. It's a bit of a re-do,but.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, that's interesting because of the shape of the blue line, because normally, as you're
driving north on 9,you pass the sign well beyond the Sunnyside intersection.
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MRS. MOORE-But it's the entire zone. So there's that zone that occurs within the APA district.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MRS. MOORE-It's the entire zone,not just that parcel.
MR. TRAVER-Understood. All right. So we have a draft motion. Is there any discussion on the part of
members of the Board to seek Lead Agency Status? Okay. We have a draft resolution.
RESOLUTION TO SEEK LEAD AGENCY STATUS SP#34-2022 PAR 27,LLC
WHEREAS, the applicant proposes a change of zone for a 10.56 acre parcel at 170 Sunnyside Road and a
2.44 acre parcel at 0 Sunnyside Road(Vacant) from MDR to RR3A. The project includes construction of
an addition of 1,613 sq. ft. to the existing 2,300 sq. ft.building. Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040,179-15-040,
site plan review, petition of zone change, Town Board referral, SEQR for petition of zone change and
building expansion, and Planning Board recommendation to Town Board. Site plan shall be subject to
Planning Board review and approval.
WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Queensbury has determined to begin an environmental
review process under the State Environmental Quality Review Act(SEQRA).
WHEREAS,the Planning Board of the Town of Queensbury has identified the project to be a Type I action
for purposes of SEQR review pursuant to 6 NYCRR 617.
WHEREAS,the Planning Board is the agency most directly responsible for approving the action because
of its responsibility for approving the land uses for the property.
NOW,THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED,the Planning Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby indicates
its desire to be lead agency for SEQRA review of this action and authorizes and directs the Zoning
Administrator to notify any other potentially involved agencies of such intent. That Part I of the SEQRA
form will be sent to the following agencies: Adirondack Park Agency.
MOTION TO SEEK LEAD AGENCY STATUS IN CONNECTION WITH SITE PLAN 34-2022 PAR
27,LLC,Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,seconded by Warren Longacker:
As per the draft resolution prepared by staff.
Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. LaSarso, Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. So now we move to our regular agenda,the first section being Old Business, and
the first item being CVE North America,Inc.,Site Plan 66-2021,Freshwater Wetlands 3-2021,Special Use
Permit 4-2021,and PZ 0720-2021.
OLD BUSINESS:
SITE PLAN NO.66-2021,FRESHWATER WETLANDS 3-2021,SPECIAL USE PERMIT 4-2021,PZ
0720-2021 SEQR TYPE: TYPE I. CVE NORTH AMERICA, INC. AGENT9S): NIXON
PEABODY. OWNER(S): FOREST ENTERPRISES MANAGEMENT. ZONING: CLI.
LOCATION: 53 QUAKER RIDGE BLVD/EAST COUNTY LINE RD. (NATIONAL GRID).
APPLICANT PROPOSES A SOLAR FARM ON SITE 303.11-1-4.1, WITH ACCESS BY RIGHT OF
WAY THROUGH PARCEL 303.15-1-25.2. THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE OVER 13,000 PANELS
ON A 30 PLUS ACRE PORTION OF THE SITE. THE PROJECT WORK INCLUDES PANEL
PLACEMENT, DRIVE AREAS, EQUIPMENT BOXES AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
THE PROJECT INVOLVES A PETITION OF ZONE CHANGE FOR PARCEL 303.15-1-25.2 FROM
CI TO CLI. PROJECT SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN, SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND FRESHWATER
WETLANDS PERMIT. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040, 179-10-040 AND CHAPTER 94,
SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE:
DIS 3-2021,PZ 720-2021. WARREN CO.REFERRAL: NOVEMBER 2021. SITE INFORMATION:
WETLANDS. LOT SIZE: 80 ACRES/6.39 ACRES. TAX MAP NO.303.11-1-4.1,303.15-1-25.2,303.11-
1-5. SECTION: 179-5-140,179-9-040.
CARSON WEINAND&LOU GRECO, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
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MRS.MOORE-This application,again,is for a solar farm project. It occurs near Quaker Ridge Wal-Mart
area. This application has gone back and forth between the Planning Board and the Town Board. The
Town Board has since granted that variance for change of zone in that parcel, as well as granted them an
access,which is what the Planning Board voted on. Again it's like your other re-do that you did last month
assisting with that they needed an access that had to be granted through the Planning Board first as a
recommendation. So at this point this applicant is back before the Board simply for the Site Plan, the
Special Use Permit and the Freshwater Wetlands permit. I think you've heard quite a bit about the project
already.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. Welcome back.
MR.WEINAND-Hi,good evening. Good to seethe Board. I'm Carson Weinand with CVE.
MR. GRECO-Lou Greco with Techtonic.
MR. TRAVER-So I know together we have gone over this project fairly extensively in terms of the
engineering comments, a lot of discussions about the array itself and so on. Were there any updates or
changes since last we met with you to discuss this project that we should be aware of?
MR.WEINAND-No.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Questions, comments from members of the Board? Anything else that we have?
We do have a public hearing on this application. Is there anyone in the audience that wanted to address
the Planning Board on this Site Plan? I'm not seeing any takers. Are there written comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN
MRS.MOORE-So there's no written comments. I think we read one in at the beginning,in the first public
hearing.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. We'll go ahead and close the public hearing,then.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-So we're basically down to Site Plan approval. Do any Planning Board members have any
remaining concerns,questions,comments,anything to be considered before we consider a draft resolution?
Okay. I guess we're ready for that resolution.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#66-2021 SUP#4-2021 FWW 3-2021 CVE NORTH AMERICA,INC.
The applicant has submitted an application the Planning Board: Applicant proposes a solar farm on site
303.11-1-4.1,with access by right of way through parcel 303.15-1-25.2. The project will include over 13,000
panels on a 30 plus acre portion of the site. The project work includes panel placement, drive areas,
equipment boxes and stormwater management. The project involves a petition of zone change for parcel
303.15-1-25.2 from CI to CLI. Project subject to site plan, special use permit and freshwater wetlands
permit. Pursuant to 179-3-040, 179-10-040, & Chapter 94, site plan, special use permit, and freshwater
wetlands shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project,pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration
Determination of Non-Significance;
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 1/1S/2022 and continued the
public hearing to 7/19/2022,when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 7/19/2022;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
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MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 66-2021, FRESHWATER WETLANDS 3-2021 &z SPECIAL
USE PERMIT 4-2021 CVE NORTH AMERICA,INC.;Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its
adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted:no waivers were requested as there is no lighting for the site proposed,
no parking or traffic generated for the site,there is no signage for the site,there is no landscaping
proposed;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired.
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
1) The Special Use Permit to become a permanent permit.
Motion seconded by Jackson LaSarso. Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
MRS. MOORE-So there's one item that's not on that resolution that you'll have to add is that the Special
Use Permit has a functionality to it that you either have to grant permanent,temporary or renewable. So
I'm assuming it's a permanent.
MR. TRAVER-Yes,thank you. All right. So we want to amend that to include a permanent.
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark, Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You are all set. Good luck.
MR.WEINAND-Thank you.
MR. GRECO-Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-The next item on our agenda is Robert and Jean Tarrant. This is Site Plan 41-2022.
SITE PLAN NO. 41-2022 SEQR TYPE: TYPE 11. ROBERT &z JEAN TARRANT. AGENT(S):
HUTCHINS ENGINEERING. OWNER(S): ROBERT AND JEAN TARRANT. ZONING: WR.
LOCATION: 308 CLEVERDALE ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEMOLISH AN EXISTING
HOME AND TO CONSTRUCT A NEW HOME WITH A FOOTPRINT OF 1,005 SQ. FT.
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INCLUDING THE PORCH/DECK AREAS. THE NEW FLOOR AREA IS TO BE 2,266 SQ.FT. THE
PROJECT INCLUDES A NEW SEPTIC SYSTEM, SITE WORK FOR STORMWATER AND
LANDSCAPING. THE EXISTING GARAGE OF 365 SQ. FT. AND 220 SQ. FT. SHED ARE TO
REMAIN. SITE PLAN FOR NEW FLOOR AREA IN A CEA,HARD SURFACING WITHIN 50 FT.
OF THE SHORE. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040,179-6-065,147,SHALL BE SUBJECT TO
PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: AV 28-2022. WARREN
CO.REFERRAL: JUNE 2022. SITE INFORMATION: APA,LGPC,CEA. LOT SIZE: 0.24 ACRES.
TAX MAP NO. 226.12-1-82. SECTION: 179-3-040,179-6-065,147.
LUCAS DOBIE&CURT DYBAS, REPRESENTING APPLICANTS,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Okay. The applicant proposes to demolish an existing home to construct a new home
with a footprint of 1,005 square feet including porch and deck areas. The new floor area is to be 2,266
square feet. The project includes a new septic system, site work for stormwater and landscaping, an
existing garage of 365 square feet as well as a 220 square foot shed is to remain. The applicant did receive
the variances at the previous meeting in regards to setbacks. They've completed the Site Plan application
at this point.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. Welcome back.
MR. DOBIE-Good evening and thank you, Mr. Chairman and thank you,Board. For the record my name
is Lucas Dobie with Hutchins Engineering and the project architect Curt Dybas. We were here last month
with you to get our recommendation to the Zoning Board. We discussed the project and the history quite
at length. We received our variances last month and we received all our septic variances in May for the
enhanced treatment system. Sothis,again,real briefly,the house is from 1SSS. I believe it's the oldest one
on Cleverdale,or one of the top two, and it's in disrepair essentially. So it's a proposal to tear down,pull
it back from the shore a little bit,center it on the lot as best we can and build back smaller, which is the
first time I've ever done that, and with this project it'll bring the parcel into conformance with the floor
area ratio and permeability,whereas today it's nonconforming with those,and we're providing stormwater
management near the shore, some shallow vegetated areas and shoreline buffer to be shown on there.
We're here to ask for your approval. The plan is to start after Labor Day. So things are coming together
nice. It's been a little bit of along haul,but I appreciate you having us tonight and we'd be happy to answer
any questions.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. As a result of your discussion with the ZBA, were there any changes to the plans
that we had seen previously?
MR. DOBIE-There was not,sir.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. I'll open it up for questions,comments from members of the Board.
MR. MAGOWAN-I would just like to make a comment,thank you,both of you,really. I hate to see such
a beautiful old structure go,but I can understand it's a long time to be on the lake and I'm sure the weather
and the water and the moisture has taken a toll, but to the owners, thank them for making a smaller
footprint and really trying to conform with the law. So I really appreciate that.
MR. DEEB-I might add it's refreshing to see you go the other way instead of asking for more.
MR.DYBAS-If the lot was just a little bit narrower it wouldn't need the side yard setbacks either. Because
we were just over the 60 feet so we had to go to 20. If we were under 60 we'd have had 15.
MR. TRAVER-There is a public hearing on this application. Is there anyone in the audience that wanted
to address the Planning Board on this Site Plan? I'm not seeing any hands. Laura, are there any written
comments?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-I do. I have a Lake George Waterkeeper letter. This is addressed to Mr. Traver. "The
above referenced site plan application was personally reviewed in my capacity as a licensed professional
engineer and the Lake George Waterkeeper. The Waterkeeper would like to recognize the protection
measures that were implemented for the redevelopment consisting of an increased shoreline setback,new
onsite wastewater treatment system with a FujiClean ETU and stormwater management. These are
positive measures to help mitigate impacts on a constrained site within the Critical Environmental Area
surrounding Lake George. The Lake George Waterkeeper requests that the applicant and Planning Board
consider the following recommendations during their deliberation for the above referenced site plan
application. It is questioned why the top 1-1/2 feet of soil will be removed between the house and the
vegetative buffer. The top 1 foot of soil is the most important layer for stormwater treatment through
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biological and soil chemistry for nutrient/pollutant removal and treatment will be reduced by this removal,
which will impact water quality. The shoreline buffer should be expanded to be more compliant and the
plantings can be incorporated into the stormwater treatment area to improve treatment. The proposed
buffer is only 10 feet wide, which is less than 300/o of the required width and the deeper rooted buffer
plantings will improve filtration and uptake over shallow rooted lawn grass. The Waterkeeper
recommends that the Planning Board condition the approval on increasing the buffer width to meet Code
requirements with planting in the stormwater management area and retain the existing soil elevation
between the house and the shoreline. The Lake George Waterkeeper looks forward to working with the
Town of Queensbury Planning Board to defend the natural resources of Lake George and its watershed.
Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely,Christopher Navitsky,PE Lake George Waterkeeper"
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. So comment from the Waterkeeper regarding the shoreline buffer
which is less than the 35 feet. Would you care to comment on that?
MR. DOBIE-Yes. Certainly. We discussed this in the green room with our client,Jean Tarrant, who's
with us tonight and she's willing to plant those stormwater areas with the buffering plants. So we're
amenable to that. So it'll essentially become a raingarden planting area incorporated. So it'll blend right
in with the shoreline buffer. So we're agreeable to that,to use the Town's formula per square foot to take
care of those areas because it's another 300 square feet for the northerly stormwater area and 1S5 square
feet on the southerly one. So we can condition that if the Board would like that. My client is willing to
do that.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Could you give us those numbers again so we can make sure that we have them?
MR. MAGOWAN-Again,thank you.
MR. DIXON-Or at the very least are you just saying you're going to use the Town standards and be
compliant with that?
MR. DOBIE-For the respective areas,yes,sir. So I did the math earlier,I thought this might come up. So
the northerly area is 300 square feet, the northerly stormwater area. So that would be six shrubs and
twelve herbaceous plantings in that.
MR. DIXON-Do I need to keep track of all of these,or can we just?
MRS. MOORE-You could use the word Code compliant. So I would say the northern stormwater area to
be Code compliant.
MR. TRAVER-And updated plans to be submitted. Correct?
MRS. MOORE-Correct. That's the only area is the northerly area?
MR.DOBIE-And the southerly area is 1S5 square feet. So that would be four shrubs and eight herbaceous.
I'd like to get that on the record if we could, and just hold to that,just so there's no confusion.
MR. TRAVER-Sure. Okay.
MRS. MOORE-So those updates should be on the final plan set.
MR. TRAVER-Right.
MS. GAGLIARDI-Mr. Chairman,you need to close the public hearing also.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you. We'll close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#41-2022 ROBERT&JEAN TARRANT
The applicant has submitted an application the Planning Board: Applicant proposes to demolish an
existing home and to construct a new home with a footprint of 1,005 sq.ft.including the porch/deck areas.
The new floor area is to be 2,266 sq.ft..The project includes anew septic system,site work for stormwater
and landscaping. The existing garage of 365 sq.ft.and 220 sq.ft.shed are to remain. Site Plan for new floor
area in a CEA,hard surfacing within 50 ft.of the shore.Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040,179-6-065,147,shall
be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
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As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board made a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals on 6/23/2022-1 the ZBA
approved the variance on 6/29/2022-1
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 7/19/2022 and continued the
public hearing to 7/19/2022,when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 7/19/2022;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 41-2022 ROBERT&z JEAN TARRANT,- Introduced by Michael
Dixon who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted: g. site lighting, h. signage, n traffic, o. commercial alterations/
construction details, r. construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal as these are found
reasonable and associated with commercial projects;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired.
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
1) The northern and southern stormwater areas are to be Code compliant with planting plans
submitted to the Town.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You're all set.
MR. DOBIE-Thank you so much.
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MR. TRAVER-Thank you. The next item on our agenda is Daniel Zotto,Site Plan 42-2022.
SITE PLAN NO. 42-2022 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. DANIEL ZOTTO. OWNER(S): DANIEL
ZOTTO &z CARRIE HEDDERMAN. ZONING: WR. LOCATION: 306 GLEN LAKE ROAD.
APPLICANT PROPOSES A 400 SQ. FT. DECK TO BE ADDED TO AN EXISTING HOME. THE
FOOTPRINT IS 798 SQ. FT.AND THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA IS 1,326 SQ. FT. THE DECK IS TO
BE LOCATED FACING THE SHORELINE AREA. THERE ARE NO OTHER PROPOSED
CHANGES. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040,179-4-080,179-13-010,SITE PLAN FOR NEW
HARD SURFACING WITHIN 50 FT. OF THE SHORELINE AND EXPANSION OF A NON-
CONFORMING STRUCTURE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND
APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: AV 30-2022. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. SITE
INFORMATION: CEA. LOT SIZE: .28 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 2899-1-86. SECTION: 179-3-
040,179-4-080,179-13-010.
CARRIE HEDDERMAN,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-This applicant proposes a 400 square foot deck to be added to the existing home. The
footprint of the existing home is 79S square feet. Floor area is 1,326 square feet. The deck is to be located
facing the shoreline. The applicant also received their variances at last month's Zoning Board meeting in
reference to setbacks.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. Welcome back.
MS. HEDDERMAN-Hello. I'm Carrie Hedderman,co-applicant. Nothing changed when we went to the
Zoning Board. Everything stayed as we applied for, and if you have any additional questions.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So we looked at this for a recommendation, which we gave, and you went to the
ZBA and they granted your variance so now you're back for Site Plan.
MS. HEDDERMAN-Correct. Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. MAGOWAN-Almost doubling the size of your camp.
MS. HEDDERMAN-If only I had a bathroom it would be perfect.
MR. TRAVER-There is a public hearing on this application as well. Is there anyone in the audience that
wanted to comment on this application? I'm not seeing any. Are there any written comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-No.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Then we'll go ahead and close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-Is the Board comfortable moving ahead? Okay. We have a draft resolution.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#42-2022 DANIEL ZOTTO
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board: Applicant proposes a 400 sq. ft. deck
to be added to an existing home. The footprint is 79S sq.ft. and the total floor area is 1,326 sq.ft.. The deck
is to be located facing the shoreline area. There are no other proposed changes. Pursuant to chapter 179-3-
040,179-4-OSO,179-13-010,site plan for new hard surfacing within 50 ft.of the shoreline and expansion of
a non-conforming structure shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
The Planning Board made a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals on 6/23/2022-1 the ZBA
approved the variance requests on 6/29/2022-1
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 7/19/2022 and continued the
public hearing to 7/19/2022 when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 7/19/2022;
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The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 42-2022 DANIEL ZOTTO, Introduced by Michael Dixon who
moved for its adoption;
Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions:
1) Waivers request granted:g.site lighting,h.signage,j.stormwater,k.topography,1.landscaping,n
traffic, o. commercial alterations/ construction details, p floor plans, q. soil logs, r.
construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal as these are found reasonable and associated
with commercial projects;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired.
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) If application was referred to engineering,then engineering sign-off required prior to signature
of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
b) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey,floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements,
c) Final approved plans,in compliance with the Site Plan,must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building
and Codes personnel;
d) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
e) Subsequent issuance of further permits,including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
f) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy;
g) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible.
Motion seconded by David Deeb. Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You are all set.
MS. HEDDERMAN-Thank you so much.
MR. TRAVER-The next section of our agenda is Recommendations to the Zoning Board of Appeals, and
the first item is Christopher Detmer,Site Plan 45-2022 and Freshwater Wetlands Permit 9-2022.
PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS:
SITE PLAN NO.45-2022 SEQR TYPE: TYPE 11. CHRISTOPHER DETMER. AGENT(S): DAVID
BOGARDUS. OWNER(S): TIA &z HARLEY GRIFFITHS. ZONING: MDR. LOCATION: 70
BROWN'S PATH. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY
DWELLING WITH AN ATTACHED GARAGE. THE HOME IS 2,200 SQ. FT. THE PROJECT
SITE CONTAINS WETLANDS. THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES SITE WORK FOR RETAINING
WALL, SEPTIC, AND DRIVEWAY AREA. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040, 179-6-050,
CHAPTER 94,A SITE PLAN FOR HARD SURFACE WITHIN 50 FT. OF THE SHORELINE AND
FRESHWATER WETLANDS WORK WITHIN 100 FEET OF A WETLAND SHALL BE SUBJECT
TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR
SETBACKS. PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING
BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE: SUB 3-1998, AV 32-2022. WARREN CO.
REFERRAL: N/A. SITE INFORMATION: FRESHWATER WETLANDS. LOT SIZE: 1.47ACRES.
TAX MAP NO. 296.11-1-9, SECTION: 179-3-040,179-6-050,CHAPTER 94.
DAVID BOGARDUS,REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS.MOORE-This applicant proposes to construct a new single family dwelling with an attached garage.
The home is 2,200 square feet. The project site does include wetlands. The project work includes
retaining walls,septic system and driveway area. The variance being requested is to the wetland setback.
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They're proposing 10.4 feet where a 75 foot setback is required. The applicant has received the local board
of health septic variance. So they've satisfied that requirement.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MR. BOGARDUS-My name's David Borgardus. I'm a surveyor with Northeast Land Surveyors. Laura,I
think you stated exactly what we're doing. I'd like to point out this is an existing approved lot. It was
approved in 1959. It's the last lot left in there and we're trying to build one small single family home on it,
2200 square feet.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So there's some clearing for the home itself and the site work,but then the rest of
the vegetation is not to be disturbed I note.
MR.BOGARDUS-Correct.
MR. TRAVER-There was one minor question we had about lighting. There didn't seem to be evidence of
exterior lighting on the home. I assume that that's not the case. There are lights on the outside of the
house?
MR.BOGARDUS-We'll probably have a driveway light illuminating the driveway.
MR. TRAVER-I thought so. So that just needs to be downcast.
MR.BOGARDUS-We didn't get into a lighting plan for a single family home.
MR. TRAVER-No,but light fixtures,residential fixtures,they still need to be downcast.
MR.BOGARDUS-I can add a note to do that.
MR. TRAVER-Very good. Let's see,questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. LONGACKER-I just had a question. The retaining wall. I don't know if you had any specifics on
that. I didn't see any detail,but it looks like it's about five foot high in one spot. It's right next to that
wetlands,so I'm just not sure what type you plan on using there so you don't give up the wetland. That's
all.
MR.BOGARDUS-Do you see the detail plan in the top right corner?
MR. LONGACKE R-There it is right there. Now I do.
MR.BOGARDUS-It demonstrates like a Bristol lock.
MR. LONGACKER-So you just put it on a stone pad in the bottom. So you don't have a big concrete
footing.
MR.BOGARDUS-It'll be set from the front side and not the back side.
MR. TRAVER-So there's no construction actually proposed within the wetland.
MR.BOGARDUS-Not at all.
MR. TRAVER-You're just within 10 feet of it.
MR. BOGARDUS-We suspect that the wetland wasn't there when the map was approved, and being the
last lot in the subdivision it probably had soils put on it where everybody else was going and that's how it
wound up being that way.
MR. TRAVER-So that changed the wetland,the topography somewhat.
MR.BOGARDUS-That's not much of a wetland. That's just a little.
MR. TRAVER-Right. Understood. All right. Questions,comments from members of the Board? This
is,tonight,for the variance for the proximity to the wetlands. Any questions,concerns regarding that for
our referral to the Zoning Board?
MR. DIXON-Do you want a comment on that regarding the downcast lighting at all?
MR. TRAVER-No because they'll be coming back for Site Plan. Anything on the variance request? All
right. We have a draft resolution.
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RESOLUTION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: AV#32-2022 CHRISTOPHER DETMER
The applicant has submitted an application for the following: The applicant proposes to construct a new
single family dwelling with an attached garage.The home is 2,200 sq.ft.The project site contains wetlands.
The project also includes site work for retaining wall, septic, and driveway area. Pursuant to chapter 179-
3-040, 179-6-050, chapter 94, a site plan for hard surface within 50 ft. of the shoreline and freshwater
wetlands work within 100 feet of a wetland shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Variance: Relief is sought for setbacks. Planning Board shall provide a recommendation to the Zoning
Board of Appeals.
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance,per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning Board to
provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that require both Zoning
Board of Appeals&Planning Board approval;
The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application,the relief request in the variance
application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and surrounding
community,and found that:
MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE 32-2022 CHRISTOPHER DETMER
Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption, and
a) The Planning Board,based on a limited review,has not identified any significant adverse impacts
that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal.
Motion seconded by Brady Stark. Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso, Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You're off to the ZBA.
MR.BOGARDUS-Thank you. Thank you very much,gentlemen. Thank you,Laura.
MR.TRAVER-The next item on our agenda,also under Recommendations,is Harley Griffiths. This is Site
Plan 47-2022.
SITE PLAN NO. 47-2022 SEQR TYPE: TYPE 11. HARLEY GRIFFITHS. AGENT(S): ERIK
SANDBLOM. OWNER(S): TIA&z HARLEY GRIFFITHS. ZONING: WR. LOCATION: 298
CLEVERDALE ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES A 200 SQ. FT. DECK ADDITION TO AN
EXISTING BUNKHOUSE OF 740 SQ. FT. NO CHANGES ARE PROPOSED TO THE EXISTING
HOME'S 1,300 SQ. FT. FOOTPRINT AND 1,300 SQ. FT. FOOTPRINT DECK/PORCH AREA.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040, 179-4-080, SITE PLAN FOR EXPANSION OF A NON-
CONFORMING STRUCTURE IN A CEA SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW
AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR SETBACKS. PLANNING BOARD
SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS
REFERENCE: AV 34-2022. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: JULY 2022. SITE INFORMATION:
CEA,APA,LGP C. LOT SIZE: .24 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 226.12-1-86. SECTION: 179-3-040,
179-4-080.
ERIK SANDBLOM, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-This applicant proposes a 200 square foot deck addition to an existing bunkhouse of 740
square feet. No changes are proposed to the existing home which is 1,300 square feet which also contains
a 1300 square foot deck/porch area. The project requires variances to the side setback and just for
clarification it's expansion of a nonconforming structure. We did do a little bit of research to determine
when this building was converted,and there's really no record of it. So that's why it's not an after the fact
approval. It's not an after the fact conversion,but we do note that it's been converted from a garage to a
bunkhouse.
MR. TRAVER-And that conversion doesn't require approval?
MRS. MOORE-It's already done. You could add it to your approval,but it's not,there's no,you normally
would see it,but I can't prove when it happened.
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MR. TRAVER-Understood. So it just magically happened and was never reviewed.
MRS. MOORE-Correct.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Good evening.
MR. SANDBLOM-Good evening. Erik Sandblom from SRA Engineers.
MR. TRAVER-So perhaps you can shed some light on a little bit of a mystery that we have a garage that
morphed into a bunkhouse.
MR.SANDBLO M-Sure. So we've been working with this family for a couple of years now. This property's
been in the family for many,many years and it was just recently transferred to the former owner's daughter
and they've been working on doing some renovations kind of cleaning up the record, so to speak, and one
of these items is this conversion into a bunkhouse. They don't know what,you know,her father did back
in the past,but they want to make it right. That's kind of their goal in all this.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. So at this point you're looking for the deck addition.
MR. SANDBLOM-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Which triggers the immediate variance.
MR. SANDBLOM-Yes, it's only 1.4 feet from the property line and the next door neighbor is part of the
same family as well and they have setbacks that are similar. So you can see it's very consistent with the
nature of the houses right in that area as well,but of course it certainly requires a variance to proceed as
an expansion of an existing nonconforming structure.
MR. TRAVER-Yes. Okay. Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. LONGACKER-Is this a totally open deck,no roof on it?
MR. SANDBLOM-No roof.
MR. LONGACKER-No roof. Okay.
MR. SANDBLOM-Yes, no roof and an open-slatted deck, and we've added a stone mat underneath to
contain the stormwater from that surface. It should perform better than existing conditions.
MR. LONGACKER-I just wanted to make sure you weren't adding any sleeping area to it. That's all.
MR. SANDBLOM-No,definitely not.
MR. MAGOWAN-It could be a zipped up screen hammock.
MR. TRAVER-Any concerns that we want to forward along with our recommendation to the ZBA?
MR. DIXON-I didn't have any.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Well we have a draft resolution.
RECOMMENDATION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: AV#34-2022 HARLEY GRIFFITHS
The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes a 200 sq. ft. deck
addition to an existing bunkhouse of 740 sq. ft. No changes are proposed to the existing home's 1,300 sq.
ft.footprint and 1,300 sq.ft.footprint deck/porch area.Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040,179-4-OSO,site plan
for expansion of a non-conforming structure in a CEA shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval. Variance: Relief is sought for setbacks. Planning Board shall provide a recommendation to the
Zoning Board of Appeals
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance,per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning Board to
provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that require both Zoning
Board of Appeals&Planning Board approval;
The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application,the relief request in the variance
application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and surrounding
community,and found that:
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MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE 34-2022 HARLEY GRIFFITHS, Introduced
by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,and
a) The Planning Board,based on a limited review,has not identified any significant adverse impacts
that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso, Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You're off to the ZBA.
MR. SANDBLOM-Thank you. I hope to see you next week.
MR. TRAVER-The next item on our agenda, also under Recommendations, is Frank Parillo. This is
Subdivision Preliminary Stage 6-2022 and Final Stage 7-2022.
SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 6-2022 SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE 7-2022 SEQR
TYPE: UNLISTED. FRANK PARILLO. AGENT(S): VAN DUSEN&z STEVES. OWNER(S):
SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: CI-18. LOCATION: 199 CORINTH ROAD. APPLICANT
PROPOSES A 2 LOT SUBDIVISION OF A 4.39 ACRE PARCEL. THE NEW PARCELS WILL BE
1.29 ACRES WITH THE EXISTING TACO BELL AND A 3.1 ACRE CORNER LOT THAT WILL BE
VACANT. THE 1.29 ACRE PARCEL IS DEVELOPED FOR TACO BELL WITH ONE EXIT POINT
TO CORINTH ROAD. WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED FOR LANDSCAPING, CLEARING,
GRADING,AND EROSION CONTROL AND STORMWATER SINCE NO NEW DEVELOPMENT
IS PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. THE TACO BELL BUILDING OF 2,863 SQ.FT.AND SITE REMAIN
AS IS. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 183, PROJECTS SUBJECT TO SUBDIVISION FOR 2 LOTS
SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF
IS SOUGHT FOR SITE ACCESS. PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION
TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE: SV 53-2011, SP 54-2011, SP 31-
2012, SP 2-2013,AV 74-2016, SP 54-2016,AV 33-2022. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. LOT
SIZE: 4.38 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 309.13-2-2. SECTION: 183.
JON ZAPPER&r MATT STEVES,REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-This project is a two lot commercial subdivision of a 4.39 acre parcel. The new parcels
will be 1.29 acres with the existing Taco Bell, and 3.1 acre lot that is vacant and would create a corner lot.
The 1.29 acre parcel for the Taco Bell has one exit point to Corinth Road and the relief being sought here is
for site access. They actually have to have physical access to and from the site and in this case there's only
an exit point,and the applicant,the future applicant for the adjoining lot would have that shared driveway
that wouldn't go away at this point.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. So we want to subdivide this and separate this off for some potential
future development. Is that the idea?
MR. ZAPPER-For the record,Jon Lapper with Surveyor Matt Steves. We were here getting the site plan
approved a number of years ago for Taco Bell. They decided they wanted to own the parcel. Frank's
happy to sell it. It was designed with a shared access contemplating that in the future there would be
some other use or uses on the rest of the parcel. Queensbury Code encourages access management where
we have shared driveways and interconnections, and in this particular case because we're close to the
Northway ramp,you wouldn't want to have another curb cut any closer if you don't need it So this is one
curb cut that should service the whole future development, whatever that might be, but technically, as
Laura said,we're not utilizing the frontage,even though there's sufficient frontage for the access. So that
requires a variance. We think it's good planning and that's why the Planning Board approved it this way
to begin with to have this shared driveway, but we have to go to the Zoning Board before we can come
back to you guys for the subdivision.
MR. TRAVER-Sure.
MR. STEVES-Obviously there's an egress party on our lot as Laura said to the extreme east,but that's for
the easterly exit only, and we do have an egress, but the ingress is shared on that access easement.
Currently Taco Bell leases exactly 1.29 acres,and also has access over the 9,000 square foot access easement
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as Jon has described. When we were doing the original planning is to have one central location so we're
not having four or five curb cuts and access points on Corinth Road.
MR. TRAVER-Although in theory someone who purchases the lot could come in and ask for a separate
access,right,which would be subject to review.
MR. ZAPPER-Yes.
MR. STEVES-They're not at this time. They're fully aware they want to maintain use of the access
easement.
MR. TRAVER-Correct.
MR. ZAPPER-But you mean the future use of the undeveloped property?
MR. TRAVER-Right.
MR. DEEB-Do you have somebody interested in that?
MR. ZAPPER-No.
MR. DEEB-So Frank's going to still own it?
MR. ZAPPER-Yes.
MR. ZAPPER-I mean he spent his whole life acquiring property. Now in his late 70's he's happy to sell it.
This was,if somebody came along and made and offer to him. So that's available for sale as it has been.
It's a pretty good location near the interchange,but no one's come along.
MR. DEEB-Taco Bell doesn't want it?
MR. ZAPPER-They only want the 1.29.
MR. TRAVER Just what they need.
MR. ZAPPER-Yes.
MR. MAGOWAN-Wasn't there?
MR. ZAPPER-There was a hotel.
MR. MAGOWAN-There was a hotel that was going in there.
MR. ZAPPER-Yes, and they were the guys,the Home2Suites,that went behind the Mall instead.
MR. MAGOWAN-We talked about that access road and that was all going to be tied together. So it's in
there. Is it a deed?
MR. ZAPPER-It's a deeded easement to get to this access road, and in the future it's likely that, whether
it's going to be one use or two uses,whatever it is,there might bean access onto Big Bay. That's a site plan
review at that point.
MR. STEVES-And the Board will obviously be seeing that in the future when they come in. It depends on
the type of use,but does it make sense at that point to still have the access to Corinth Road,depending on
the type of use and intensity of that use that they also have an entrance or exit on Big Bay Road. Obviously
we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
MR. TRAVER-Right.
MR. ZAPPER-But for Taco Bell everything works fine the way it is.
MR. TRAVER-Sure.
MR. DIXON-I'm glad you have that on the radar.
MR.MAGOWAN-He came and he cleared that lot and we asked him to leave some trees and it really looks
nice, and I'm kind of amazed. It's a good corner.
MR. ZAPPER-Yes.
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MR. MAGOWAN-Someone's going to grab that up.
MR.TRAVER-I would think. All right. So this evening,as was pointed out,the site access is the variance
that they require for this to come back to us for the subdivision. Does anyone have any concerns with that?
It seems fairly logical to me given what the current conditions are. So if there's no concerns, we have a
draft motion.
RECOMMENDATION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: AV#33-2022 FRANK PARILLO
The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes a 2 lot commercial
subdivision of a 4.39 acre parcel. The new parcels will be 1.29 acres with the existing Taco Bell and a 3.1
acre corner lot that will be vacant. The 1.29 acre parcel is developed for Taco Bell with one exit point to
Corinth Road. Waivers are requested for landscaping, clearing, grading, and erosion control and
stormwater since no new development is proposed at this time. The Taco Bell building of 2,563 sq.ft. and
site remain as is. Pursuant to chapter IS3, projects subject to subdivision for 2 lots shall be subject to
Planning Board review and approval.Variance:Relief is sought for site access.Planning Board shall provide
a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance,per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning Board to
provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that require both Zoning
Board of Appeals&Planning Board approval;
The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application,the relief request in the variance
application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and surrounding
community,and found that:
MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE NO. 33-2022 FRANK PARILLO;
Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption, and
a) The Planning Board,based on a limited review,has not identified any significant adverse impacts
that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal.
Motion seconded by Brady Stark. Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You're off to the ZBA.
MR. STEVES-Thank you.
MR. ZAPPER-Thanks,Laura.
MR. TRAVER-The next section of our agenda is New Business, and the first item under New Business is
Matt Flint/Mary Jane Canale. This is Site Plan 46-2022.
NEW BUSINESS::
SITE PLAN NO. 46-2022 SEQR TYPE: TYPE 11. MATT FLINT/MARY JANE CANALS.
OWNER(S): MARY JANE CANALS. ZONING: C1. LOCATION: 726 GLEN STREET.
APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REUSE AN EXISTING 2,880 SQ. FT. BUILDING FOR A PRINTING
COMPANY. SITE HAS 17 EXISTING PARKING SPACES. THE EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR OF
THE BUILDING ARE TO REMAIN THE SAME. A SIGN FOR THE COMPANY WILL BE OVER
THE DOOR. SITE CONDITIONS FOR LIGHTING, PARKING AND GREEN SPACE WILL
REMAIN THE SAME. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040,179-9-020,SITE PLAN FOR ANEW
COMMERCIAL USE THAT HASN'T HAD A SITE PLAN IN THE PAST SEVEN YEARS SHALL BE
SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. WARREN CO.REFERRAL: JULY
2022. LOT SIZE: 1.25 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 302.6-1-55.1. SECTION: 179-3-040,179-9-020.
BILL CANALE,REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT; MATT FLINT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-This applicant proposes to re-use an existing 2,SS0 square foot building for a printing
company. The site has 17 existing parking spaces. The exterior and interior of the building are to remain
the same. A sign for the company will be over the door. Site conditions for lighting,parking and green
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space remain the same. I did note that the signage near the windows would have to be reviewed to make
sure that was Code compliant.
MR. TRAVE R-Right. Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MR. CANALE-Good evening.
MR. DEEB-Could you identify yourselves for the record,please.
MR. FLINT-I'm Matt Flint from M&M.
MR. CANALE-And Bill Canale,the owner.
MR. TRAVER-So you're acquiring this building and you want to re-develop it for use of the printing
company,but it looks as though the modification would be largely interior. Correct?
MR. CANALE-Yes,but we're not acquiring anything. We've owned the building for 30 something years.
We have a tenant,CWI,that's been in there for 30 something years. They bought their own structure and
we went in,painted it up,didn't change a thing.
MR. TRAVER-So you're just re-using it.
MR. CANALE-Yes.
MR. FLINT-I have a printing company in Glens Falls right now and this will expand into this larger
location.
MR. TRAVER-Sure.
MR. MAGOWAN-Well we welcome you to Queensbury.
MR.TRAVER-And this particular site hasn't had site plan review in more than seven years. So that's one
of the things that triggered your discussion with us tonight.
MR. CANALE-Right.
MR. TRAVER-It seems fairly straightforward to me. Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. MAGOWAN-I like you have really two access points. The building's been tucked back there for
years. I remember it being a children's care,wasn't it?
MR. FLINT-Community Workshop for years in that location.
MR. MAGOWAN-I think it's a good use. It's a nice building. It gives you the room you need.
MR. TRAVER-We do have a public hearing on this application as well this evening. Is there anyone in
the audience that wanted to comment to the Planning Board on this application? I'm not seeing any. Are
there any written comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Then we will go ahead and close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-If there's nothing else,we'll entertain a motion.
MR. DIXON-Before I do the motion,Laura,how do I identify it as far as signage? Do you just want to, as
far as Code compliant signage?
MRS. MOORE-You don't have to because the applicant still would have to apply for a sign permit, and it
would be evaluated at that time.
MR. DIXON-That's easy enough,then. Made my life easier.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#46-2022 MATT FLINT/MARY JANE CANALE
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The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board:Applicant proposes to reuse an existing
2,880 sq. ft.building for a printing company. Site has 17 existing parking spaces. The exterior and interior
of the building are to remain the same. A sign for the company will be over the door. Site conditions for
lighting,parking,and green space will remain the same.Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040,179-9-020,site plan
for a new commercial use that hasn't had a site plan in the past seven years shall be subject to Planning
Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 7/19/2022 and continued the
public hearing to 7/19/2022 when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 7/19/2022;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 46-2022 MATT FLINT/MARY JANE CANALS;Introduced by
Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption;
Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions:
1) Waivers request granted: j. stormwater, k. topography, 1. landscaping, n traffic, o. commercial
alterations/construction details, q. soil logs,r. construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal
as these are found reasonable and as the project involves no site changes and all changes are
interior;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired.
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) If application was referred to engineering,then engineering sign-off required prior to signature
of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
b) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey,floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements,
c) Final approved plans,in compliance with the Site Plan,must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building
and Codes personnel;
d) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building
Permit and/or the beginning of any site work;
e) Subsequent issuance of further permits,including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
f) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy;
g) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible.
Motion seconded by Brady Stark. Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. LaSarso, Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You're all set.
MR. CANALE-Thank you.
MR. FLINT-Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-The next item on our agenda, also under New Business,is Tyler Russell. This is Site Plan
48-2022.
SITE PLAN NO.48-2022 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. TYLER RUSSELL. OWNER(S): JKA 42289,
LLC. ZONING: NC. LOCATION: 330 AVIATION ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REUSE
AN EXISTING 2,668 SQ. FT. BUILDING TO OPERATE A BOTTLE AND CAN REDEMPTION
CENTER. THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING IS TO BE PAINTED TO CLEAN UP BUILDING
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APPEARANCE. THERE ARE NO PROPOSED SITE CHANGES. THE PARCEL IS A CORNER
LOT. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040, SITE PLAN FOR A NEW COMMERCIAL USE IN
AN EXISTING BUILDING SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND
APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: SP 23-98,SP 1-89,AV 11-89,SP 12-93,AV 55-93,SP 47-93,SP
75-95,UV 53-1992,UV 14-1993,UV 85-1995,UV 22-1998. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. LOT
SIZE: .29 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 301.8-1-19. SECTION: 179-3-040.
WHITNEY RUSSELL, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-This application is for a re-use of an existing building. The building is 2,66E square feet.
This is to operate a bottle and can redemption center. The exterior of the building is to be painted to clean
up the building appearance. The parcel as you can see the triangle piece. The re-use of it would be
beneficial to at least that area. It wouldn't be such a rundown building in that area. The applicant has
shown where there's parking availability and where the plan to put some landscaping, and typically with
a redemption center they have to have an overhead door so that there's availability for a pickup from a large
truck.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MR. RUSSELL-Good evening. My name is Whitney Russell. You may recognize me from our other
application that we have going on. Tyler is my son,and the lucky dog is in Italy right now. So I'm here in
his stead. As you just heard, we're looking at, we recently purchased a building that's been vacant for
almost 20 years, rundown. When the traffic circle was created, they reconfigured the front of the lot to
make it so it can't ever be a gas station again. We're proposing to put a bottle redemption center in there.
We recently opened the one down on Ridge Street in the City of Glens Falls in the old Stewart's location.
So if you've been by there you'll see how we cleaned that back up and,you know,put some nice signage
up. Our goal is to re-paint the building There is not really much to do on the lot. Everything is paved
already. We would like to soften it up a little bit, and we did talk about doing some plantings out in the
front. I've done a little research an figured out that when they built the traffic circle,they put a couple of
catch basins that are actually inside the curbing. So to be able to put like a fixed planter box out there,I'd
be afraid that we would mess with the water flow,but we would be more than willing to do and would
like to do something like half barrels or something that we could put some vegetation in to make it not
look like a big concrete corner over there if we could.
MR. TRAVER-Well that would be nice. I see you're going to paint the building. That'll certainly be a
big improvement,and anything that can be done to sort of dress up that area will be nice. Is there,do you
believe there's sufficient volume of bottle and can returns to have a second site and have it be worthwhile?
MR. RUSSELL-I do. What I'm looking at is, if you take all of the subdivisions that are on the other side
of the Northway, any of those places have to cross the Northway. So we're going to reduce traffic flow
going across the Northway if anything, and now you're going to Price Chopper, Hannaford or like
Minogue's or one of the beverage centers to return your bottles.
MR. TRAVER-And especially with gas the way it is.
MR. RUSSELL-Right. And, you know, the Glens Falls store we get a few people from Queensbury,but
that's a pretty good trek,and they typically would pass Price Chopper or Hannaford before they would get
to us,but the few people that have ventured down there have figured out that we are so much quicker than
all the other places that it's definitely to their benefit. So we have a waiting list of people ready for us to
open.
MR. TRAVER-No kidding? Wow,that's good.
MR. MAGOWAN-Are you going to look into like the Clink program?
MR. RUSSELL-Our whole goal in this program is,in this day and age where we can't hire any help,is to
go automated as much as possible, but we will not go to the Clink model or the retrieval center model
where it's your responsibility to feed the machine or pre-count or put it in special bags. Basically you come
in the door,you dump your bottles and cans on the table,and we have a person there that actually can talk
to you and help you and get things sorted and counted. Typically a couple of 55 gallon bags of returnables,
you can be out the door in three to five minutes. So our can counter can do 600 cans a minute. Our bottle
counter is supposed,plastic bottle counter is supposed to do 600 a minute,but because of the weight of
the tops,it tips them a little bit and about every 15`h one gets stuck so you have to give it a little pull,but
still it's very fast. We average 2S to 30 customers a day in Glens Falls in an eight hour period and we're on
track to do between a million and a million and a half cans in Glens Falls this year,bottles and cans.
MR. DEE&Wow.
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MR. MAGOWAN-Another question if I may. The caps, now are the bottles and the caps two different
plastics or they're asking for you kind of not to use the caps due to the fact of the weight and it tips and?
MR. RUSSELL-The other problem is most of the places where, I think you go to Hannaford of Price
Chopper,and you're feeding them in by hand,one at a time,that machine crushes those. So if there's a cap
on it basically you're going to make a little explosion every time you crush that. So that's why those places
don't want caps on them. Ours go back in one piece intact and Tomra is the company that has the contract
with the State to collect all of that,or one of the companies. They are the company that handles this area,
and they collect that. We filled a 4S foot tractor trailer full to the doors today. I see these trucks going up
and down the road and they're hauling air. They're hauling a little bit of plastic and a little bit of aluminum
and a whole lot of air,but the way their business model is set up and the DEC regs are,the bottle and cans
have to go intact.
MR. TRAVER-So, I'm trying to remember now. It's something like eight and a half cents per returnable
and the customer gets five. Right,and you get the three and a half?
MR. RUSSELL-Yes, we get the three and a half. And there is a proposed bottle bill that would change
that and would increase the materials that get recycled. Right now things like milk jugs and things like
that,those are not. Anything that has liquor in it is not. Vermont,Massachusetts,New Hampshire have
all gone to deposits on those,those packaging parts, and when currently it's about 7S,I think,percent in
New York State. The places that have gone to ten cents on plastic and aluminum and gone to fifteen cents
on liquor bottles, and the other they've gone up to 920/o. The difference,you know, so many people say,
A it's a nickel. It's a nickel,it's a nickel. Well you make it a dime,now,wait a minute,maybe we should
reconsider. So the goal is to get it all recycled. That's what we're looking at,keeping it out of the landfill
if we can get people to turn it into Trex decking so that when the folks want to build their deck,they can
go get their Trex.
MR. MAGOWAN-We did the Warren County Waste Recycling program. It was a good meeting today,
but really it's amazing how many people throw out bottles,and these kids,I say,you know twenty of them
are a dollar. I mean I still bend over and pick up a penny. Because a hundred of those are a dollar.
MR. RUSSELL-I covered the store on Saturday. We had a guy come in with a little trailer behind his
truck,and it was$19S is what he drove away with.
MR. MAGOWAN-Well,it's funny you say that,but I had a five gallon jug,we started in 2003 as a square
jar,and it was costing me too much money. So what we ended up doing is putting our recycling in there,
you know, our five centers, and last year we cashed it in. It was $IIS4. So that's 12,000 bottles, that's
24,000 cans of soda since I don't drink.
MR. DEEB-Can I ask you a question. Is the apartment still upstairs now?
MR. RUSSELL-Yes.
MR. DEEB-Are you going to use that as an apartment?
MR. RUSSELL-Yes. That's one of the things we want to be able to do is keep that intact.
MR. DEEB-Okay. Well it's good to see the building getting taken care of. Twenty years is a long time.
MR. RUSSELL-Yes. The strange thing is that when they put the vinyl siding on it they basically vinyl
sided over all the windows and doors on the whole back side of the building. They're still all there. When
you're inside it's really odd because you're looking at the back side of siding. I guess it was a quick way to
clean it up,but we're going to use all the existing lighting, the lighting that's on the building. We were
actually looking today. We're going to take the interior in and put LED fixtures in.
MR. DEEB-Downcast.
MR. RUSSELL-Yes,they're already there. They're all under the soffits and they will be exactly there.
MR. DIXON-Will any of the bottles be outside at any given time,or everything remains inside?
MR. RUS SELL-The goal is to have nothing outside. Again,I don't want it to look like a depot. I want it
to look respectable. We have nothing outside in Glens Falls. The last couple of days we've had a trailer
there because we were cleaning up some debris that had been left behind,but there will be nothing outside.
There will be a truck that comes to pick up the returnables and will leave and we'll have people coming in
and unloading. The building has a pretty good size footprint for what we need. So we'll have plenty of
storage on the inside of the building.
MR. DIXON-Hours of operation?
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MR. RUSSELL-Ten to six. And that's Monday through Saturday. Closed Sundays.
MR. DIXON-And there's a tractor trailer that comes in?
MR. RUSSELL-Yes. And the back of the building is, a number just left my head,but I believe the back of
the building is 5S feet long, and atypical trailer is 53 feet long. So when the truck is at the back of the
building it will be the same size as the building. It won't be in the front of the building. It will be in the
back.
MR. DIXON-And will that always be there during normal business hours? Northing overnight,off hours?
MR.RUSSELL-They come in now and pick it up. There is a chance that there could be a change in Tomra's
business model where they would want to leave a trailer there.
MR. TRAVER-It depends on your volume,right?
MR.RUSSELL-Right. But again it would fit behind the building and the only way you would see it would
be basically if you're coming down,heading west,I guess,and it would be the same size as the building.
MR.DIXON-Okay,and for the proposed waste,the dumpster that's on the side facing Dixon Road,is that
going to be enclosed?
MR. RUSSELL-We can enclose that. I would prefer to enclose it,because being out there on a corner it's
going to be a great place for all the neighbors to put their garbage if I don't.
MR. MAGOWAN-I was more worried about leaving your bags out there,your bottles and all that.
MR. RUSSELL-That's a good location. That's where basically where Sokol's had theirs was in that back
corner,the next lot over. They can come in at a little bit of an angle,pick that stuff up,and stay out of the
road, and it's a good spot because it'll also prevent people from trying to park or pull over on that side.
MR. DIXON-I think it's a nice project. Nothing that I would ever say should be required,but if you can
do anything more with green space,it is a big slab of concrete. Over time,try to.
MR. RUSSELL-Yes, I would really like to do something,you know,put something there to green it up a
little bit. I kind of got the wind taken out of my sails when I noticed that those two catch basins are there,
right in the front, and the entire lot basically flows to that spot. So I'm going to have to be careful not to
mess with that,but even on the,maybe even on the corners eventually we could do some type of something
to soften it a little bit.
MR. DIXON-That would be nice. I'm glad to see it being repurposed. It has been there for an awful long
time.
MR.TRAVER-It's funny you're mentioning the recyclables and the liquor bottles. It reminds me of many,
many moons ago I was with a program helping people get jobs that had disabilities and one evening I got
a call from one of my staff saying,geez we have an issue. One of the individuals was working in a kitchen
in a restaurant, and I got an odd call one evening that,gee, we have a problem with,I'll just say the name
Joe,that was not the person's name. Come to find out that one of the individual's responsibilities was to
take the recycled bottles out and put them in the garbage, and they were taking the liquor bottles and
occasionally there would be a tiny,tiny amount of liquor in each bottle. Well after an evening of 40 or 50
bottles,his performance was changing on the job and my staff was calling me and saying we have an issue
with our friend here, and that story reminded me of that story. That was kind of unique. I had run into
all kinds of issues with people on the job,but that was a new one to me,the recycled liquor bottles.
MR. RUSSELL-Occasionally we'll have people that will bring in a can,you know, a can of beer that has
never been opened and it's in the bag, and you just think to yourself, how long has that been in that bag
sitting in the sun on your back porch.
MR. TRAVER-Yes.
MR. RUSSELL-Those are the ones that,whoever we don't like that day has to dump those out.
MR.MAG OWAN-It's funny you say that. Remember the bear slides on the spot going up to North Creek
you used to go down and they had the waterfalls. My buddy and I went up one time,we went on a sober
trip there and not bring anything up. Well we got a little thirsty,got a little hot,but I actually went diving
underneath the falls. Well people used to put their beers and all that on the edge of the river in the stream
because the water was cold. Do you know how much was down there. Needless to say,it didn't matter,
but they were cold..
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MR. TRAVER-We do have a public hearing on this application, and I see we don't have any public left,
but I'll ask if we have any written comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-No,there are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So we'll open and close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-Is there any other further discussion on this application? Okay. I guess we have a draft
resolution.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#65-2022 TYLER RUSSELL
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board:Applicant proposes to reuse an existing
2,66E sq. ft. building to operate a bottle and can redemption center. The exterior of the building is to be
painted to clean up building appearance. There are no proposed site changes. The parcel is a corner lot.
Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040, site plan for a new commercial use in an existing building shall be subject
to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 7/19/2022 and continued the
public hearing to 7/19/2022 when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 7/19/2022;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 48-2022 TYLER RUSSELL, Introduced by Michael Dixon who
moved for its adoption;
Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions:
1) Waivers request granted: j. stormwater, k. topography, o. commercial alterations/ construction
details,q.soil logs,r.construction/demolition disposal as these are found reasonable and there are
no site changes including the building changes exterior are for painting only and the internal are
adjustments for redemption facility;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired;
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) If application was referred to engineering,then engineering sign-off required prior to signature
of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
b) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey,floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements,
c) Final approved plans,in compliance with the Site Plan,must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building
and Codes personnel;
d) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building
Permit and/or the beginning of any site work;
e) Subsequent issuance of further permits,including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
f) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy;
g) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 19`h day of July 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon, Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
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MR. TRAVER-You are all set.
MR. RUSSELL-Thank you very much. Our goal is to be open the first week in August. So if anybody's up
in that area,please stop in.
MR. DEEB-I drove by today. It's starting to take shape.
MR. RUSSELL-Yes,just taking the boards off of the windows. I had a couple of neighbors from down the
street that walk their dogs and they said what are you putting in there? And I said we're hoping to put a
redemption center in here, and they said it looks so good with the windows unboarded. What a level of
improvement,you know, taking the boards off the windows. So it'll look great. Thank you very much
and hopefully we'll see you soon on the other one.
MR. TRAVER-So,Laura,I saw there was a reminder about a stormwater presentation tomorrow evening?
Available training.
MRS. MOORE-Yes, it's available training to this Board. It's Jim Liebrum giving a presentation to the
Zoning Board because the Zoning Board had asked for it,simply because they've been getting the requests
for setback variances for stormwater devices. They thought they should know a little bit more. So it's
available. It's Jim Liebrum presentation. More geared toward the Zoning Board,but you're welcome to
attend. It takes one hour off of your required four hours. So if you're here.
MR. TRAVER-Is this provided by Soil and Water?
MRS. MOORE-Correct.
MR. TRAVER-So it's the training we've already.
MRS. MOORE-Yes,it's very similar.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Thank you. Any other business before the Board this evening? If not we'll
entertain a motion to adjourn.
MOTION TO ADJOURN THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF JULY 19TH 2022,
Introduced by Jackson LaSarso,seconded by Michael Dixon:
Duly adopted this 19`h day of July,by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Dixon, Mr. Deeb,Mr. Longacker, Mr. Magowan,Mr. LaSarso,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-We stand adjourned. See you next week,folks.
On motion meeting was adjourned.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Stephen Traver,Chairman
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