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SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING MARCH 15 , 1983
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS
MRS . FRANCES WALTER-SUPERVISOR
MR. DANIEL OLSON-COUNCILMAN
DR. CHARLES EISENHART-COUNCILMAN
MR. DANIEL MORRELL-COUNCILMAN
MR. WILSON MATHIAS-TOWN COUNSEL
ABSENT MRS. BETTY MONAHAN
PRESS : G. F. POST STAR
GUESTS: MEMBERS OF D. O .T. , MAYOR EDWARD BARTHOLOMEW , MR. ARTHUR TURNBULL ,
MR. HARTY
DISCUSSION ON REGIONAL BUS SYSTEM
SUPERVISOR WALTER- ME HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A REGIONAL BUS SYSTEM FOR
SOME TIME THERE HAS BEEN SOME PLANNING DONE BY THE CITY OF GLENS FALLS
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION , THE PURPOSE OF THIS EVENINGS MEETING
IS TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, QUEENSBURY RESIDENTS IN
PARTICULARS OF WHAT IS IN STORE AS THE SYSTEM NOW STANDS. INTRODUCED
MR. WILLIAM ACQUARIO OF D. O .T.
MR. ACQUARIO-IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
CITY OF GLENS FALLS ON A REGIONAL BUS SYSTEM. THE BUSSES WILL BE AR3VING
IN MAY OR JUNE OF THIS YEAR. THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES COST ARE ONLY ESTIMATES
A LOT WILL DEPEND OF THE RIDERSHIP. STATE AND FEDERAL AID ARE PROJECTED
ON THE TOTAL MILEAGE AND ARE REASONABLE ESTIMATES .
MR. DONN VICHLER- D. O .T. THE PURPOSE OF A BUS SYSTEM IS, TO GET PEOPLE
FROM WHERE THEY AREA TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. ONE CONSIDERATION IN
PREPARING THE ROUTES IS THE PLACEMENT WHERE THERE ARE ACCUMULATIONS OF
PEOPLE. MOST OF THE PROPOSED ROUTES CAN BE RUN , OUT AND BACK WITHIN
A HALF HOUR. THE SYSTEM WAS SET UP SO THAT THE BUSSES WILL MEET AT
A COMMON TERMINAL FOR TRANSFERS. USING VARIOUS MAP.SDESCRIBED THE BASIC
ROUTES THAT WILL BE RUN IN QUEENSBURY. ROUTE C-THE COLLEGE ROUTE .
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- WHAT TIME DO YOU PLAN TOi :HAVE ROUTE C START?
MR. DONN VICHLER- THE FIRST TRIP WOULD LEAVE THE TERMINAL AT 7 : 30 P. M.
ROUTE D-WEST GLENS FALLS
COUNCILMAN OLSON-WHERE WILL THE BUSSES STOP ON THE ROUTES?
MR. DON VICHLER-I SUSPECT THAT EVERY CORNER IN THE BUILT UP SECTIONS
WOULD BE A POTENTIAL BUS STOP , AFTER A WHILE SPECIFIC CORNERS WOULD BE
DESIGNATED WITH FORMAL SIGNS , OR A POLICY COULD BE ESTABLISHED THAT A
STOP WOULD BE MADE 'UPON A SIGNAL .
COUNCILMAN OLSON- WHERE IS THE FOCAL POINT OF THE SYSTEM?
MR. DON VICHLER- JUST SOUTH OF CITY HALL
MR. HARTY- ARE THERE ANY PROVISIONS FOR SHELTERS?
�-� MR. DON VICHLER- THERE ARE PROVISIONS FOR TWO SHELTERS , THE COST OF A SHELTER
IS $5 ,000 . 00
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j MR. BILL DONNELY-UNDER SECTION 18jTHAT WAS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE BUSSES.
TWO SHELTERS AND FIFTY SIGNS , IN WORKING WITH SECTION 5 WOULD ADD ANOTHER
100 SIGNS AND TWENTY FOUR SHELTERS
MR. ARTHUR TURNBULL- WAS THERE ANY SURVEY DONE AT THE COLLEGE REGARDING
RIDERSHIP?
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW-WE DID A SURVEY LAST YEAR AND IN 1979 BOTH TIMES AN
OVERWHELMING PERCENTAGE SAID THEY WOULD RIDE. . . DEPENDING ON THE SCHEDULES
MR. DON VICHLER- ROUTE C-WEST GLENS FALLS DESCRIBED ROUTES ROUTE TO RUN
23 MINUTES ROUTE C 26 MINUTES THE GLEN ROUTE, A NUMBER OF DESTINATIONS
ON THIS ROUTE. . .WILL COVER. AVIATION MALL , ROBERT GARDENS , JOHN BURKE APTS .
PLUS LAFAYETTE STREET DETOUR.
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COUNCILMAN OLSON- WILL YOU PULL INTO THE NORTHWAY PLAZA?
MR. VICHLER-NO SPOKE ON THE TIME LIMITATIONS OF THE RUNS . . .THE BUSSES
WILL GO INTO THE AVIATION MALL . . .WITH OPERATING EXPERIENCEjWE MAY FIND
THAT WE CAN DO MORE. . .
MR. HARTY-ASKED THAT THE RUN BE MADE TO NORTHWAY PLAZA-TVDATA 300 PERSONS .
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- HOW LONG WILL YOU DO A TEST ON A RUN?
MR. VICHLER-YOU WOULD WANT TO GIVE IT QUITE A LONG TIME , TO ALLOW PEOPLE
TO GET FAMILIAR WITH IT. . .
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- IN REGARD TO THE COLLEGE RUN YOU WILL BE STARTING
AROUND .JUNE AND AT THAT TIME THERE IS NO COLLEGE EXCEPT SUMMER SCHOOL
YOU HAVE JUNE , .JULY AND AUGUST WITH VERY FEW PEOPLE BUT WILL PICK UP
AGAIN IN EARLY SEPTEMBER. . .
MR. VICHLER- THIS IS A MARKETING QUESTION YOU MIGHT WANT TO RUN IT
THROUGH THE FIRST WHOLE SEMESTER OR EVEN THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR TO
GIVE PEOPLE ASSURANCE THAT IT WILL BE THERE.
COUNCILMAN OLSON- THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED IF THE ROUTE COULD GO TO
THE MUNICIPAL CENTER, FOR THE VARIOUS SERVICES THAT THE CENTER HOLDS ,
SOCIAL SERVICES AND HEALTH OPERATIONS . . .
MR. VICHLER- THAT COULD BE DONE ON WHAT IS CALLED A TRIFFER, IT COULD
START JUST ONE DAY A WEEK . . .
MR. HARTY- HOW MANY BUSSES WILL BE ON THE RUNS?
UNKNOWN- THREE WITH ONE SPARE
SUPERVISOR WALTER- IN REGARD TO THE CAPITAL COSTS , DO YOU HAVE A BREAK
DOWN IN THE CAPITAL COSTS? $371 , 000 FOUR BUSSES , 50 SIGNS 2 SHELTERS
AND ADMINISTRATION
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- THE BUSSES COST $332 ,000 SHELTERS AND SIGNS COME
TO. $13 , 500 A CONTINGENCY ACCOUNT OF $ 10 ,000 THAT WOULD BE FOR ADDITIONAL
COSTS TO THE SHELTERS OR ADDITIONAL THINGS ON THE BUSSES WE MAY OR MAY
NOT UTILIZE ALL THAT. . . WE MAY BE TAKING ANOTHER LOOK TO SEE IF WE
COULD GET MORE SHELTERS. . .THEIgALL HAS INDICATED SOME INTEREST ALONG
WITH SOME OTHER GORPORATI'OQIS: nONATING A SHELTER.
COUNCILMAN OLSON- WOULD TWO OR FOUR SHELTERS BE ENOUGH FOR THE CITY?
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- IT WOULD BE A START . . .NEXT YEAR WE WOULD BE EL_I.GI'BLE..
FOR CAPITAL COSTS FOR THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT THAT WILL ALLOW
US TO PETITION TO RECEIVE MORE ADDITIONAL MONIES-THE FINAL 10% OF THE COSTS
OF THE SHELTERS WOULD BE DIVIDED AMONG THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH THEY ARE
LOCATED. . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- WHAT ABOUT ADMINISTRATION?
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- WE HAVE THAT UNDER THE CONTINGENT ACCOUNT. . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- THE BUS GARAGE , THAT IS PURELY A CITY PROJECT?
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- YES IT IS . . .THE CITY HAS APPLIED FOR A 240 ,000 DOLLAR
FEDERAL GRANT WITH THE STATE TO FUND AN ADDITIONAL 60 , 000 DOLLARS
THE TOTAL COST OF 300 , 000 TO CONSTRUCT THE GARAGE TO HOLD, SEVEN BUSSES
THE 60 ,000 IS SECURE-WE WILL HEAR SOMETIME IN APRIL ON APPROVAL OF THE
FEDERAL GRANT. . . THE TIME TABLE OF CONSTRUCTION TO START WOULD BE LATE
SPRING EARLY SUMMER. IN THE EVENT THAT WE ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL WITH THE
GRANT WE ARE MAKING ROOM AT THE DPW STORE HOUSE-WE ARE ALSO LOOKING I
FOR A BACKUP TO THAT FOR LEASING A BUILDING IN THE GREATER GLENS FALLS
AREA TO HOUSE THE BUSSES .
COUNCILMAN OLSON- THAT WILL INCLUDE A LIFT AND MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT?
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW-THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE 300 ,000 DOLLAR FIGURE
MR. ARTHUR TURNBULL- WILL THERE BE A SPECIAL RATE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS?
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS AND THE HANDICAPPED THERE WILL
BE DISCOUNT COUPONS—FOR EXAMPLE FOR THE PRICE OF TEN,, YOU WOULD RECEIVE
FIFTEEN TO EIGHTEEN RIDES . . .
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- WILL THAT INCLUDE STUDENTS AND CHILDREN? 117
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- THAT IS A LOCAL DECISION. . . WE HAVE CONTIMPLATED
SOME TYPE OF A PROGRAM FOR COMMUTERS , ADULTS AND CHILDREN. . .
MR. TURNBULL- NOTED HE WAS HAPPY THAT THE BUS WAS GOING TO ROBERT GARDENS
AND WOULD BE GOING PAST THE SENIOR CITIZENS CENTER ON LAFAYETTE ST.
MRS. TURNBULL- ASKED WHAT THE FARE WAS GOING TO BE. . .
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW-THE FARE WOULD BE 55CENTS WITH A SCENT TRANSFER FEE. . .
MR. HARTY- HOW MUCH REVENUE WOULD EACH BUS GENERATE?
jMAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- WE ESTIMATE $46 ,000 IN REVENUES IN THE FIRST YEAR,
WHICH IS A CONSERVATIVE FIGURE. . . WE HAVE A TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET OF
$273 ,000 DOLLARS,, WITH $46 ,000 IN PASSENGER REVENUES, WITH A $100 ,000
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, $58 , 000 FROM THE STATEjWITH THE LOCAL SHARE
OF $55 ,000 , WE TRIED TO PROJECT MAXIMUM OPERATING EXPENSES WITH CONSERVATIVE
�- REVENUES. . .
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- GLENS FALLS AS THE LEAD AGENCY SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY
AND THE DUTY TO ESTABLISH AND IMPLEMENT ALL POLICY CONCERNING THE OPERATION
OF THE TRANSIT SYSTEM,-OUR RESOLUTION THAT WE PASSED IN 1980] WE RESOLVED
THAT A COMMISSION BE ESTABLISHED TO ADMINISTER THE SYSTEM CONSISTING OF
PERSONS OF PARTICIPATING COMMUNITIES. I WOULD LIKE A CLARIFICATION , IS THERE
ANY INTENT AS THE LEAD AGENCY TO SET UP A COMMISSION OF THE SEVEN PARTICIPATIN(
COMMUNITIES?
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW-THE INTENT IS TO DEVISE WHAT I THINK HAS BEEN VERY
SUCCESSFUL TO DATEIINVOLVING THE RESPECTIVE MUNICIPAL HEADS IN AN ADVISORY
ROLE. UNDER THE GRANTS THE CITY IS SOLELY RESPONSIBLE TO THE STATE AND
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY. IF ONE OF THE
COMMUNITIES DROPS OUT ON THE CAPITALjOR ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES DROPS OUT
ON THE OPERATING, GLENS FALLS IS RESPONSIBLE IN TOTAL. AN EFFECTIVE
WAY IS TO HOLD REGULAR ADVISORY MEETINGS WITH THE MUNICIPAL HEADS AND TO
MAKE SUGGESTIONS AND GUIDELINES. IF WE WERE A BIGGER AREA THE CONCEPT OF
AN AUTHORITY. . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER=PART OF OUR RESOLUTION, OUR INTENT TO PARTICIPATE , THE TOWN
j WOULD PARTICIPATE UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES , WAS TO ESTABLISH SOME KIND
OF A COMMISSION WITH A WEIGHTED VOTE. . .
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- WITH THE VOTING, MEMBERSHIP"VOULD REFLECT THE PERCENTAGE
OF THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT. . .
COUNCILMAN OLSON- SO WE WOULD HAVE 29 . 9 PERCENT OF THE VOTE
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH ESTABLISHING A GROUP TO PARTICIPATE-'
I THINK THAT THE MORE COMMITTEES THAT WE SET UP , I THINK BY ESTABLISHING AN
ADVISORY GROUP THAT REPRESENTS EACH OF THE COMMUNITIES WITH THE MUNICIPALITY
DETERMINING WHO THAT PERSON IS , WE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS AS POLICY IN THE
CITY- THE DIFFICULTY IS THAT THIS COMMISSION IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO THE FEDERAL
AND STATE -GOVERNMENT TO OPERATE THE FACILITY TO CONSTRUCT THE FACILITY.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN PUTTING TOGETHER AN ADVISORY BODYiTO RECOMMEND POLICY
BUT THE GRANTS AND THE RESPONSIBILITY ULTIMTTELY COMES TO THE CITY OF GLENS
FALLS , THERE IS NO CAUSE OF ACTION BACK ON THE RESPECTIVE GOVERNMENTS.
IF WE GO ANOTHER ROUTE. THEN WE HAVE TO CREATE A TOTALLY NEW LEGAL AUTHORITY
IN WHICH ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES WOULD BEAR LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT
IS WHEN I RLUTED TO THE CONCEPT OF THE AUTHORITY. IF DOWN THE ROAD THIS
PROJECT CONTINUES TO BE SUCESSFUL. AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT. THAT MAY BE THE
WAY TO GOPBUT AT THIS TIME ALL OF THE INITIAL RESPONSIBILITY FUNDING AND
SO FORTH TO GET THE SYSTEM GOING IS WITH THE CITY OF GLENS FALLS .
DOWN THE ROAD I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE THAT POSSIBILITY
OF DIVISING THE LEGAL MECHANICISM TO SHARE A PORTION OF ALL THOSE RESPONSI-
BILITIES.
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- IT SAYS THAT GLENS FALLS IS THE LEAD AGENCY , IF ANOTHER
TYPE OF ADMINISTRATIVE SET UP WERE ESTABLISHED. WOULD THAT HAVE AN ADVERSE
EFFECT UPON THE PRESENT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE NOW BEFORE D. O .T. ?
MR. ACQUARIO- THE MAYOR WAS RIGHT , THE WAY THE WHOLE THING IS SET UP
THE MPO IS DESIGNATING GLENS FALLS OR THE CITY IT IS THg.l.fR SYSTEM
THAT IS BEING SET UP THAT APPLIES FOR THE FEDERAL GRANT FOR THE GARAGE
AND THE SUSSES-IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT HAS TO STAY THAT WAY EVEN TOMORROW.
THE WAY IT IS SET UP RIGHT NOW , ALL THE PAPERSARE IN PLACEjTHAT THEY ARE
THE LEAD AGENCY THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THE LOCAL SHARE FOR THE
GARAGE AND BUSSES , YOU CAN TELL THEM TOMORROW YOU ARE OUTj THEY WILL .
jig sSTILL HAVE TO PAY THE WHOLE SHARE , WE DO NOT CARE IF ANYONE ELSE JOIN
IT THEY HAVE TO PAY IT. IF TOMORROW4THE MAYOR SAYS HE DOES NOT LIKE THAT
ANYMORE AND HE WANTS YOU HOOKED IN, HE CAN CHANGE IT-BUT IT WILL MEAN
CHANGING ALL THE PAPERS WE DO NOT CARE , IT IS ONLY PAPER WORK .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- IT COULD HAVE BEEN SET UP DIFFERENTLY.
MR. ACQUARIO- IT JUST WOULD INVOLVE LONGER TERM COMPLICATED COMMITTMENT
FOR EVERYBODY TO PUT INTO PLAY.
COUNCILMAN OLSON- IF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY OR ANY OTHER -MUNICIPALITY
WAS NOT TO GO ALONG WITH THE PROGRAMIWOULD THE CITY OF GLENS FALLS BE
OBLIGATED TO STILL RUN THE ROUTES INTO THE TOWNIIOF QUEENSBURY? -
MR. ACQUARIO- NO SIR. '
COUNCILMAN OLSON- THE FEDERAL GRANTS ARE NOT HINGED ON THE SERVICE
THAT IS BEING OFFERED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES?
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- THAT PARTICULAR CAPITAL INVESTMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH THE PARTICIPATING COMMUNITIES IN THE BUS SYSTEM AS FAR AS THE COST IS
CONCERNED.
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- THERE IS NO PROVISION IN CASE THE WHOLE THING GOES
DOWN THE DRAIN WE HAVE PUT IN $31 ,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND AFTER SIX OR
EIGHT MONTHS THEY CLOSE DOWN THE RESIDUAL VALUE OF THE BUSSES EQUIPMENT;
ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS CONNECTED WITH IT, WOULD THEN BE THE PROPERTY OF THE
CITY .
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- NO , THE DIST.LLUSION OF THE SYSTEM AFTER ALL THE LIABILITIES
AND DEBTS ARE PAYED OFF, WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED ACCORDING TO THE PERCENTAGE
OF YOUR INVESTMENT.
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- IS THAT IN THE CONTRACT?
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- YES. ARTICLE 11 PERTAINS TO THE TERMINATION OF THE
SYSTEM BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE IF ONE AGENCY DROPS OUT IT KEEPS ON GOING
SUPPOSE THE QTY OF GLENS FALL THE BIGGEST PART DROPS OUT,WHAT HAPPENS
TO THE SYSTEM?
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- 'T(HE CITY OF GLENS FALLS DAN, IS THE LEAD AGENCY , WE
COME TO YOU, THE CONTRACT IS FOR A TWO YEAR COMMITTMENT TO OPERATE THE
BUS SYSTEM-AT THE END OF TWO YEARSjBECAUSE OF LOSSESI AS NUMBER ONE OPTION
WE HAVE TO MAKE ALL DUE EFFORTS TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM-WE WOULD
HAVE TO DIMINISH THE NON - PROFITABLE LINES FIRST- AFTER ALL GOOD FAITH EFFORTS
FAIL) WE GO TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT THE CITY IS
PAYING FIFTY PERCENT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE , WE WOULD HAVE TO SIT
DOWN WITH THE COMMUNITY AND DECIDE WHAT TO DO BECAUSE WE ARE THE LARGEST
HOLDER. ON THE OTHER HAND IF THE TOWN.--
QUEENSBURY AFTER TWO YEARS COMES
AND SAYS THATS 30%., THE CITY AT THAT POINT IS TO LOOK AROUND AND SEEKTO
REDUCE THE ROUTES OR TOTALLY TERMINATE THAT SERVICE TO KEEP THE LINE GOING.
THE CITY REMAINS ON THE HOOK TO OPERATE THE SYSTEM IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE
STILL IN THE CONTRACT-FOR THOSE TWO YEARS WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME
ADJUSTMENTS. WE TRIED TO PRESENT A SYSTEM WHICH SERVES THE GREAT NEEDS
IN QUEENSBURY AND GLENS FALLS AND THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AND TRIED TO WORK
IN THAT FRAME WORK. IF WE FIND THAT AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS THE LINE TO
ACC IS NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY MONEY, THEN THAT WILL BE DROPPED, THAT DROP
OF THAT LINE WILL REDUCE WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO PROJECT TO THE TOWN OF
QUEENSBURY-FROM THE CITY IS THE MAXIMUM OPERATING EXPENSES THAT YOU CAN
EXPECT IN ONE YEAR, WHAT I DID NOT WANT TO HAPPEN, THAT AFTER THREE OR
FOUR MONTHSjTO COME TO FRAN AND THE TOWN BOARD AND SAY WE UNDERESTIMATED
THE EXPENSITURES AND YOU HAVE GOT TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER FIVE OR EIGHT
THOUSAND DOLLARS TO CARRY YOU THROUGH THE YEAR , I TRIED TO GIVE YOU A
MAXIMUM EXPOSURE OF $14 ,000 PER YEAR-THE CITY HAS AN EXPOSURE OF $23-24
THOUSAND FOR THE FIRST YEAR. TO KEEP GOOD RIDERSHIP UP, THAT SHARE WILL
BE REFLECTED IN A REDUCED SHARE IN THE NEXT YEAR OF OPERATING. SO MUCH
OF IT HAS BEEN BUILT ON PRIOR BUS ROUTES40N CHANGES IN QSBY . ON CHANGES
THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE TOWN OF MOREAU WE WILL NEVER KNOW HOW THE SYSTEM
WILL WORK UNTIL WE GET THE BUSSES OUT THERE ROLLING FOR A PERIOD OF TIME .
THE COOPERATION THAT EVERYONE HAS HAD FROM FORT EDWARD TO QUEENSBURY
TO SO. GLENS FALLS. IS VERY POSITIVE TO GET THE SYSTEM OFF THE GROUND. . .
COUNCILMAN MORRELL- I AM VERY HAPPY THAT THE MAYOR WAS ABLE TO COME HERE
TONIGHT TO CLEAR UP A LOT OF DISCREPANCIES THAT I HAD FORMED IN MY MIND) I
AM SORRY THAT MORE PEOPLE WERE NOT HERE. . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- I WAS ALSO A LITTLE UPSET AT THE ATTENDANCE AND IF THIS
WAS THE INTEREST IN THE BUS SYSTEM IN QUEENSBURY THAT WE WERE IN TROUBLE,
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COMMUNICATIONS
MARCH 14 , 1983
QUEENSBURY TOWN HALL
BAY ROAD
GLENS FALLS , N. Y. 12801
ATTN : MRS. WALTERS :
AS A CONCERNED AREA BUSINESSMAN I DELIGHT AT THE PROSPECT OF A
BETTER ECONOMIC CLIMATE. WHEN I LEARNED OF THE PROPOSED AREA
BUSSING PLAN , I FELT THAT CONCEPTUALLY IT WAS A POTENTIAL BOON
TO AREA BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS ALIKE.
WHAT GREATLY DISTURBED ME WAS THE PROPOSED BUSSING ROUTES . TO
SAY THEY ' RE SKEWED IN FAVOR OF THE CITY OF GLENS FALLS IS AN
OBVIOUS UNDERSTATEMENT. I GENUINELY SUPPORT AND ADMIRE THE
REVITALIZATION EFFORTS INVOLVING GLENS FALLS , BUT I DO HAVE A
LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT.
MY BUSINESSES , AUDIO GENESIS AND THE VIDEO CENTER ARE LOCATED
ON QUAKER ROAD BETWEEN RTE. 9 AND BAY ROAD. THIS AREA IS NOT
REALISTICALLY ACCESSIBLE BY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC DUE TO HEAVY
VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS . AND , WHILE THE
QUAKER ROAD IS THE MOST DIRECT ROUTE FROM HUDSON FALLS TO THE
AVIATION MALL AND MY BUSINESSES , THE PROPOSED BUS ROUTES CIR-
CUMVENT ME ALTOGETHER WHILE MAKING A TRIP TO AVIATION MALL IN-
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DIRECT AND TEDIOUS AT BEST.
SURELY THE SUBSTANTIAL TAX CONTRIBUTION BY THE TOWN OF QUEENS-
BURY WARRANTS MORE THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION THAN THIS. I ' D
LIKE TO GO ON RECORD AS BEING OPPOSED TO THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED
BUSSING SCHEDULE.
SINCERELY ,
/S/
1 SAMUEL PECA
SP :LB
SUPERVISOR WALTER-I TALKED WITH THE GENTLEMAN LAST WEEK , HE AND SEVERAL
OTHER BUSINESSMEN ON QUAKER FOAD-I SAID I HAD EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN
HAVING SOME KIND OF AN EXPRESS RUN-MAYBE SOMEDAY WE WILL GET INTO THAT
BUT THAT WAS NOT IN THE PLANS.
COUNCILMAN OLSON- CAN WE EXPECT ANY REPORT BACK FROM THE INFORMATION
THAT WAS GIVEN THIS EVENING?
MAYOR BARTHOLOMEW- REVIEWED'-'THE TIME TABLE. . . WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU NEXT
MONDAY. . .
SUPERVISOR WALTER- WE HAVE GRAVE RESERVATIONS WITH THE CONTRACT-THERE ARE
SOME TERMS IN THERE THAT THE lrJ7WN WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH SO I THINK
IT IS TIME FOR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. I DO NOT THINK IT IS ANYTHING THAT
IS INSURMOUNTABLE BUT I THINK WE DO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT A FEW POINTS .
ON 'MOTION THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED ,
DONALD A. CHASE , TOWN CLERK
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