09-26-2023 (Queensbury Planning Board 09/26/2023)
QUEENSBURYPLANNINGBOARD MEETING
SECOND REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 261r,2023
INDEX
Site Plan No.55-2022 Southern Gateway Renewables 1.
Freshwater Wetlands 4-2022 Tax Map No. 303.E-1-1,303.12-1-3
ONE YEAR EXTENSION
Site Plan No.56-2022 Northern Gateway Renewables 2.
Freshwater Wetlands 11-2022 Tax Map No.297.15-1-1
Special Use Permit 5-2022
ONE YEAR EXTENSION
Site Plan No. 62-2021 Queensbury Auto Mall 2.
ONE YEAR EXTENSION Tax Map No. 303.15-1-1S
Site Plan No.56-2023 New Potato Creek Holding LLC (Tidal Wave) 3.
Tax Map No.296.17-1-47
Site Plan No.5S-2023 JP Gross Properties,LLC 6.
Tax Map No. 309.17-1-16
Site Plan No.59-2023 JP Gross Properties,LLC 9.
Tax Map No. 309.17-1-15.2
Site Plan No. 60-2023 JP Gross Properties,LLC 11.
Tax Map No. 309.17-1-17.2
Site Plan No. 63-2023 Dunham's Bay Fish&Game Club 14.
Tax Map No.253.-1-19
Site Plan No. 62-2023 Glens Falls Country Club 16.
Tax Map No.296.6-1-12,296.10-1-20
THESE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY ADOPTED MINUTES AND ARE SUBJECT TO BOARD AND STAFF
REVISIONS. REVISIONS WILL APPEAR ON THE FOLLOWING MONTH'S MINUTES(IF ANY)AND
WILL STATE SUCH APPROVAL OF SAID MINUTES.
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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
SECOND REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 26TK,2023
7.00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
STEPHEN TRAVER,CHAIRMAN
DAVID DEEB,VICE CHAIRMAN
MICHAEL DIXON,SECRETARY
WARREN LONGACKER
BRADY STARK
NATHAN ETU
BRAD MAGOWAN
LAND USE PLANNER-LAURA MOORE
STENOGRAPHER-MARIA GAGLIARDI
MR.TRAVER-Good evening,ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Town of Queensbury Planning Board
meeting for Tuesday, September 26`h, 2023. This is our second meeting for September and our 20`h for
2023. If you'd please make note of the illuminated exit signs. Those are the emergency exits in the event
that we have an emergency. If you have a cell phone or other type of electronic device,if you would either
turn it off or turn the ringer off,so as not to interrupt our proceedings,we would appreciate that,and also,
aside from the public hearings,and we have a number of them this evening,we ask that if you wish to have
a conversation amongst yourselves, if you would go to the outer lobby to do that because we do record
the proceedings and it can be sometimes confusing to the clerk trying to interpret what is being said. And
with that we'll begin. We have a few administrative items this evening. The first is Site Plan 55-2022 and
Special Use Permit 4-2022 for Southern Gateway Renewables.
ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS:
SITE PLAN 55-2022&z SUP 4-2022 SOUTHERN GATEWAY RENEWABLES —REQUEST FOR A
I YEAR EXTENSION
MR. TRAVER-This is a request for a one year extension. Laura?
MRS.MOORE-So this is a solar project out near the airport and this is the southern site,and they're having
some issues obtaining some equipment and creating their construction drawings and so forth. So they're
asking for their first extension.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR.MAGOWAN-Excuse me,Mr.Chairman. I would just like to go on record that this is Warren County
property. I have no monetary value or anything,but it's been through negotiations. I've been thereon the
site,but I don't feel that,I just want to go in the record stating that,but I think for an extension it's a great
project,the northern and the southern. So unless you feel I should step aside,just giving the option, Mr.
Chairman.
MR. TRAVER-I think for an extension that's fine. I think when we get to Site Plan you probably should
recuse yourself because you're directly involved. Any other questions, concerns with this request? We
have a motion.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION SP#55-2022 SUP 4-2022 SOUTHERN
Applicant proposed to utilize 27+ acres of an SO acre parcel for a S.OMW solar farm of 5.25 acres of land at
the Warren County Airport. Project work includes fencing, stormwater management, and equipment
areas.
The Planning Board approved this project on October IS, 2022. Applicant is requesting a one year
extension.
MOTION TO APPROVE A ONE YEAR EXTENSION FOR SITE PLAN 55-2022 &z SPECIAL USE
PERMIT 4-2022 SOUTHERN GATEWAY RENEWABLES. Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved
for its adoption,seconded by Warren Longacker.
Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker, Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Traver
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NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-The next administrative item is Site Plan 56-2022, Freshwater Wetlands permit 11-2022
and Special Use Permit 5-2022 and in a similar fashion this is the northern section of that project,Northern
Gateway Renewables.
SITE PLAN 56-2022, FWW 11-2022 &z SUP 5-2022 NORTHERN GATEWAY RENEWABLES -
REQUEST FOR A 1 YEAR EXTENSION
MR. TRAVER-They want a similar request for a one year extension. Is that right,Laura?
MRS. MOORE-That's correct.
MR. TRAVER-Any questions on that extension request? Okay. We have a resolution.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION SP#56-2022 SUP 5-2022 NORTHERN
Applicant proposed to utilize 31 acres of a 510 acre parcel for a S.OMW solar farm of S.3 acres on the Warren
County Airport land.Project site work is within 100 ft.of designated wetland and there will be disturbance
of existing wetland areas for the placement of solar panels. Project work includes fencing, stormwater
management and equipment areas.
The Planning Board approved this project on October 1S, 2022. Applicant is requesting a one year
extension.
MOTION TO APPROVE A ONE YEAR EXTENSION FOR SITE PLAN 56-2022, FRESHWATER
WETLANDS 11-2022&z SPECIAL USE PERMIT 5-2022 NORTHERN GATEWAY RENEWABLES.
Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,seconded by David Deeb.
Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Dixon, Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-And the next administrative item is Site Plan 62-2021. This is for Queensbury Auto Mall.
SITE PLAN 62-2021 QUEENSBURY AUTO MALL—REQUEST FOR A ONE YEAR EXTENSION
MR. TRAVER-Also requesting a one year extension. They did submit a letter that's in your packets.
Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So this is the second time that this applicant has requested a one year extension. I just
want to make sure the Board's aware of that and again this applicant has indicated that he is not able to
start construction on this project this year.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So this is a second request. Obviously we granted the first one. Questions,
comments from members of the Board on this request? Okay. We have a resolution.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION SP#62-2021 QUEENSBURY AUTO MALL
Applicant proposed to develop a IJS acre site with a new car dealership and service center. Proposed
building is 6,260 sq. ft. and project includes site design with parking, stormwater management,
landscaping&lighting.
The Planning Board approved this plan on October 19,2021.
A one year extension was granted on September 27,2022.
MOTION TO APPROVE A ONE YEAR EXTENSION FOR SITE PLAN 62-2021 QUEENSBURY
AUTO MALL. Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,seconded by Brady Stark.
Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
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MR. TRAVER-Next we move to our regular agenda, the first section being Tabled Items, and this is for
New Potato Creek Holdings,LLC (Tidal Wave). This is Site Plan 56-2023.
SITE PLAN NO.56-2023 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. NEW POTATO CREEK HOLDING,LLC(TIDAL
WAVE). AGENT(S): BOHLER ENGINEERING. OWNER(S): EVEREST ENTERPRISES,LLC.
ZONING: CI. LOCATION: 900 STATE ROUTE 9. APPLICANT PROPOSES DEMOLITION OF
AN EXISTING BUILDING IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A 3,910 SQ. FT. CAR WASH FACILITY
AND A 2,730 SQ. FT. CANOPY FOR 22 ON SITE VACUUMS. THE PROJECT INCLUDES
ADDITIONAL ACCESSORY BUILDINGS: A PAY KIOSK STRUCTURE AND TWO VACUUM
SERVICE BUILDINGS OF 154 SQ. FT. EACH. THE BUILDING COLORS WILL BE THE BLUES
ASSOCIATED WITH THE TIDAL WAVE BRAND. THE PROJECT INCLUDES ASSOCIATED
SITE WORK FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, UTILITIES AND SITE LANDSCAPING.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040,SITE WORK FOR NEW COMMERCIAL USE IN THE CI
DISTRICT SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS
REFERENCE: SP 60-2007,SP 37-2018,AV 35-2018. WARREN CO.REFERRAL: AUGUST 2023.
LOT SIZE: 1.72 ACRES. TAX MAP NO.296.17-1-47. SECTION: 179-3-040.
CARYN MLODZIANOWSKI,REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So this application is for construction of a car wash of 3,910 square feet and construction
of a canopy of 2,730 square feet which will include 22 vacuums, a variety of accessory structure for a pay
kiosk, vacuum services and the building colors will be the blues associated with the Tidal Wave brand.
The applicant did revise the elevation drawings. The revised plans show the vacuum canopy structure
with a one-sided access and the building elevations revised show the glass area visible for the tunnel
sections have been reduced.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. Welcome back.
MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-Good evening. Nice to see you again. Caryn Mlodzianowski with Bohler
Engineering for the record. So as Laura mentioned, we have made a significant change and reduction to
the amount of glazing within the building. So I'll walk you through that this evening. If you want,Laura,
do you have the previous drawings? Just as a refresher,this was the previous version that you looked at a
month ago. As far as the building elevations go, so the top view is the north side and the bottom view is
the south side of the building. So in that previous version which is their new design that they're going
with, there was about 77.60/o glazing on the north side, and we've gone ahead and reduced that down to
30.20/o, which I'll show when we flip to the new version, and then the south side had 41.9% glazing and
we've reduced that to 20.1%. So it has been a significant reduction in the glazing through the design of
the buildings. So essentially we went from grade level to roof level glazing and windows and switched t
that out to just regular windows so that it'll have a lot more facade area. If you want to flip to the new
version. It will look a lot different. And operationally as well,Tidal Wave,the reason they want all of the
glazing is that they do actually use that for employees from the outside of the building to walk down
outside of the tunnel and be able to see in for any items that need maintenance,see how things are running,
things like that,while it is operating,since they wouldn't have the ability to do so within the tunnel itself.
So that is important to them to have the glazing. This is somewhat similar to the other location here that's
built, that also has seven windows as well. So they do want to maintain some of that. They also don't
want people to feel claustrophobic within the tunnel itself. So we feel that this is a good compromise and
are excited to getting the Board's thoughts.
MR. TRAVER-So generally speaking it's about a 50%reduction on each side from what you originally.
MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-Approximately 50%.
MR. TRAVER-Okay, and so the employees actually walk along the vehicles but on the outside of the
building to observe?
MS. MLODZ IANOWSKI-They'll walk outside the tunnel and look in to observe.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So what do they do in the existing structure that's on Quaker Road where there's
no windows? Are they actually inside with the vehicle as it goes through?
MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-So the one on Quaker Road,the side of that building does have windows now.
MR. TRAVER-It does?
MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. I haven't been through it.
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MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. DIXON-I think it's an improvement. I know one of the questions or comments that you had made
the last time you presented was this shouldn't be significant anyway because your hours of operation are
only going to be until about S p.m.?
MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-That's correct.
MR. DIXON-I must be blowing by it,because I don't see where we have hours defined. Was that in the
packet at all?
MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-I'm not 1000/o sure,but the intent is that the hours would be from S to S.
MR. TRAVER-You can include that in your resolution.
MR. DIXON-That would be the only concern that I had. And I know we've got SEQR in front of us as
well,and there were comments regarding traffic. I didn't see any issue,but I'm obviously not speaking for
the entire Board.
MR. TRAVER-We did close the public hearing on this application in August. Were there any other
changes to the Site Plan other than the glazing on the building?
MRS. MOORE-I didn't see anything.
MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-There have not been.
MR.TRAVER-Okay. So,aside from the change in the glass area of a reduction of about 500/o,it's essentially
the same project we previously reviewed.
MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-It was just down to architecture as I understood it last time,yes.
MR. TRAVER-Right. Any other questions,comments from members of the Board before we proceed?
MR. ETU-I think it's a significant reduction. It's more than 500/o. In one case it's almost 60010 less glazing
on the other side.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. MAGOWAN-I got my package and I did a dance. I was very pleased for the compromise. I couldn't
sleep last night I was so excited to be here tonight. I'm only here for this one application then I'm going
home, no I'm kidding. I just want to say I want to reach out to Bohler and New Potato Creek Holdings
LLC and thank them for the reduction. It's a little bit more in line. I did read walking on the outside and
looking in. I thought that was a little bit of a stretch,but after reviewing the inside, it's pretty even on
either side. I guess it would be pretty wet to see. So I understand,but I just wanted to reach out and say
thank you,sorry,but I think this is a much better fit for this location. It was brought to my attention from
some other people that have traveled that have seen your major glazing stores and they kind of laughed at
me and said,Brad,it does,it looks like a discotheque. So at least I'm not as crazy as everybody thought at
one time,but I wanted to just reach out and say thank you.
MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-We appreciate that.
MR. TRAVER-Anything else before we consider the environmental impact? Okay. So this is an Unlisted
action. Does anybody have any concerns regarding the environmental impacts, after looking at the
information? Hearing none,I guess we can proceed with that.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC. SP#56-2023 NEW POTATO CREEK
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board: Applicant proposes demolition of an
existing building in order to construct a 3,910 sq.ft.car wash facility and a 2,730 sq.ft.canopy for 22 onsite
vacuums. Carwash building has reduced glazing plans. The project includes additional accessory
buildings: a pay kiosk structure and two vacuum service buildings of 154 sq. ft. each. The building colors
will be the blues associated with the Tidal Wave brand. The project includes associated site work for
stormwater management,utilities and site landscaping.Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040,site work for new
commercial use in the CI district shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
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The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations
of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Short has been completed by the applicant;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of Queensbury
Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse impacts on the
environment,and,therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be prepared. Accordingly,this
negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SITE PLAN 56-2023 NEW POTATO
CREEK HOLDING LLC.Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption.
As per the resolution prepared by staff.
1. Part II of the Short has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Short is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify potentially
moderate to large impacts.
Motion seconded by Warren Longacker. Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following
vote:
AYES: Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Longacker,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-And next we move on to the Site Plan.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#56-2023 NEW POTATO CREEK HOLDING LLC
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board: Applicant proposes demolition of an
existing building in order to construct a 3,910 sq.ft.car wash facility and a 2,730 sq.ft.canopy for 22 onsite
vacuums. Carwash building has reduced glazing plans. The project includes additional accessory
buildings: a pay kiosk structure and two vacuum service buildings of 154 sq. ft. each. The building colors
will be the blues associated with the Tidal Wave brand. The project includes associated site work for
stormwater management,utilities and site landscaping.Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040,site work for new
commercial use in the CI district shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project,pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration
Determination of Non-Significance;
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on S/15/2023 and continued the
public hearing to S/15/2023,when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including S/15/2023;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 56-2023 NEW POTATO CREEK HOLDING LLC (TIDAL
WAVE),- Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired;
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3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution:
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans.
1) Applicant has stated hours of operations will be limited to 8 a.m.to 8 p.m.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You are all set.
MS. MLODZIANOWSKI-Thankyou.
MR. TRAVER-The next item on our agenda is Old Business. This is Unapproved Development,JP Gross
Properties LLC. There's actually three items that we're looking at this evening. The first being Site Plan
58-2023.
OLD BUSINESS:
(UNAPPROVED DEVELOPMENT) SITE PLAN NO. 58-2023 SEQR TYPE: UNLISTED
(REAFFIRM SEQR)JP GROSS PROPERTIES,LLC AGENT(S): EDP,JON LAPPER. O WNER(S):
407 BIG BAY ROAD LLC. ZONING: CLI. LOCATION: 407 BIG BAY ROAD. APPLICANT HAS
COMPLETED SITE UPDATES FOR AN EXISTING SITE WITH A RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED
16,000 SQ.FT.BUILDING AND AN EXISTING 4,324 SQ.FT.BUILDING ON THE SITE. UPDATES
INCLUDE ALTERNATIVE PARKING ARRANGEMENT AND LIGHTING. IN ADDITION,
SIDEWALK ACCESS WAS ADDED TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE NEW BUILDING AND LESS
SIDEWALK AREA WAS CREATED FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING. AN EXTERIOR HARD
SURFACED EQUIPMENT AREA WAS ADDED TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE NEW BUILDING.
A PATIO IS PROPOSED FOR AN EMPLOYEE AREA. PERMEABLE GREEN AREA WAS
REDUCED. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 &z 179-9-120,SITE PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL
SITE WORK, HARD SURFACING, VEGETATION REMOVAL AND LIGHTING SHALL BE
SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: SP(M)60-
2021,AV 38-2023. WARREN CO.REFERRAL: SEPTEMBER 2023. LOT SIZE: 1.62 ACRES. TAX
MAP NO. 309.17-1-16. SECTION: 179-3-040,179-9-120.
JON LAPPER&r NICK ZEGLEN,REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
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MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS.MOORE-So this project is at 407 Big Bay. We talked about this. They recently constructed a 16,000
square foot building and the site also has a 4,324 square foot building on the site. They're application
included a variance that was granted, and this was in regards to parking. The project plan shows 51
parking spaces where 54 spaces are required.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. Welcome back.
MR. ZAPPER-Good evening,everyone. For the record,Jon Lapper with Nick Zeglen from Environmental
Design and Joe Gross the owner. With your sendoff of recommending all three of these last time the
Zoning Board unanimously approved the variances. They also thought this was relatively minor. When
we get to the third project which is the one in back which is the Gross Electric,there was a neighbor that
was here last,I believe at the Zoning Board and also I see tonight,who was concerned about the buffer and
I just wanted to say,we'll talk about it in a minute,but this Board had required a berm and a fence. That
hasn't been installed yet because the Town Board waterline is still being installed on the property, it's
about two weeks away, and that buffer will be installed per the site plan as soon as possible.
MR. TRAVER-And that's on the third item?
MR. ZAPPER-That's on the third one.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So we'll discuss that when it comes up.
MR. ZAPPER-And 407 which is the northernmost parcel,this is where the connection is made so that the
traffic can circulate, and it's just parking spaces and that was just to make the turning radius work for the
connection, and the Zoning Board thought that because there's parking on the other side, there was no
issues at all.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So there's been no changes as result of the ZBA review. Questions,comments from
members of the Board? There is a public hearing on this application. Is there anyone in the audience that
wanted to address the Planning Board on the JP Gross Properties, this being Site Plan 58-2023? I'm not
seeing any takers. Are there written comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-No written comments.
MR. TRAVER-All right. In that case we will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-This is an Unlisted SEQR that we have an opportunity to reaffirm. Does anyone feel the
changes that we looked at and were approve for the variances that were approved by the ZBA had any
additional environmental impacts that would require us to change our original SEQR? Okay.
RESOLUTION REAFFIRMING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC. SP#58-2023 JP GROSS PROPERTIES LLC
The applicant has completed site updates for an existing site with a recently constructed 16,000 sq. ft.
building and an existing 4,324 sq.ft.building on the site.Updates include alternative parking arrangement
and lighting. In addition, sidewalk access was added to the South side of the new building and less
sidewalk area was created for the existing building. An exterior hard surfaced equipment area was added
to the South side of the new building.A patio is proposed for an employee area. Permeable green area was
reduced. Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040 & 179-9-120, site plan for additional site work, hard surfacing,
vegetation removal and lighting shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to
review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations
of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Long EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Whereas, the Planning Board adopted a Resolution of SEQRA determination of non-significance on
October 26,2023 and,
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Upon review of the information recorded on the EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of Queensbury
Planning Board as lead agency reaffirms that this project will result in no significant adverse impacts on
the environment, and,therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be prepared. Accordingly,
this negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO REAFFIRM NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN 58-2023
1P GROSS PROPERTIES,LLC. Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,seconded by
Brady Stark.
Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-Next we consider the Site Plan.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#58-2023 JP GROSS PROPERTIES LLC
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board:Applicant has completed site updates
for an existing site with a recently constructed 16,000 sq.ft.building and an existing 4,324 sq.ft.building
on the site. Updates include alternative parking arrangement and lighting. In addition, sidewalk access
was added to the South side of the new building and less sidewalk area was created for the existing
building. An exterior hard surfaced equipment area was added to the South side of the new building. A
patio is proposed for an employee area. Permeable green area was reduced.Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040
& 179-9-120, site plan for additional site work, hard surfacing, vegetation removal and lighting shall be
subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project,pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration
Determination of Non-Significance;
The Planning Board made a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals on 9/19/2023-1 the ZBA
approved the variance requests on 9/20/2023-1
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 9/26/2023 and continued the
public hearing to 9/26/2023,when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 9/26/2023;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 58-20231P GROSS PROPERTIES,LLC.;Introduced by Michael
Dixon who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted for items g. site lighting, h. signage,j. stormwater, k. topography, 1.
landscaping,n traffic, o. commercial alterations/construction details,p floor plans, q. soil logs,r.
construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal. as the applicant has only made changes to the
lighting,landscaping and hard surfacing related to the project work;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired.
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
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d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark, Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. Moving right along,the next aspect of this overall project is Site Plan 59-2023,
399 Big Bay Road parcel
(UNAPPROVED DEVELOPMENT) SITE PLAN NO. 59-2023 SEQR TYPE: UNLISTED
(REAFFIRM SEQR)JP GROSS PROPERTIES,LLC AGENT(S): EDP,JON LAPPER. O WNER(S):
399 BIG BAY ROAD LLC. ZONING: CLI. LOCATION: 399 BIG BAY ROAD. APPLICANT HAS
COMPLETED SITE UPDATES FOR AN EXISTING 13,500 SQ. FT. BUILDING AND SITE.
UPDATES INCLUDE NEW HARD SURFACING FOR A PARKING ARRANGEMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAS BEEN TREE AND VEGETATION REMOVAL ON THE
NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE SITE. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040&z 179-9-120,SITE PLAN
FOR ADDITIONAL SITE WORK, HARD SURFACING, AND REMOVAL OF TREES AND
VEGETATION SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS
REFERENCE: SP 44-97, AV 59-1997, SP 14-2015, AV 2-2015, SP 1-2000, SP (M) 60-2021, AV 37-
2023. WARREN CO.REFERRAL: SEPTEMBER 2023. LOT SIZE: 1.57 ACRES. TAX MAP NO.
309.17-1-15.2. SECTION: 179-3-040,179-9-120.
JON LAPPER&r NICK ZEGLEN,REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. LAPPER-So this one is the bottom one on the map in front of us, and this is where the actual
connection was made so the permeability changed and some vegetation was removed to allow that,but to
make up for that, Nick put a bunch of new landscaping on the Big Bay side, on the top side right there
where it was more significant and more important to plant there some trees and shrubs.
MR. TRAVER-Okay, and no changes as a result of the ZBA?
MR. LAPPER-No.
MR. TRAVER-And again we have an Unlisted SEQR that we have an opportunity to reaffirm, unless
anyone feels that this new review causes any additional environmental impacts. So there is a public
hearing on this aspect of the project as well. Is there anyone in the audience that wants to address the
Planning Board on the JP Gross Properties, Site Plan 59-2023? I'm not seeing any. Laura, are there any
written comments?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
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MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then we will close that public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
RESOLUTION REAFFIRMING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC. SP#59-2023 JP GROSS PROPERTIES LLC
The applicant has completed site updates for an existing 13,500 sq. ft.building and site. Updates include
new hard surfacing for a parking arrangement.Additionally,there has been tree and vegetation removal on
the Northeast side of the site.Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040&179-9-120,site plan for additional site work,
hard surfacing and removal of trees and vegetation shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to
review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations
of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Long EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Whereas,the Planning Board approved a resolution on 3/24/2015 adopting SEQRA determination of non-
significance, and
Upon review of the information recorded on the EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of Queensbury
Planning Board as lead agency reaffirms that this project will result in no significant adverse impacts on
the environment, and,therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be prepared. Accordingly,
this negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO REAFFIRM NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN 59-2023
1P GROSS PROPERTIES,LLC. Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,seconded by
Warren Longacker.
Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Dixon, Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-And next we can move along to the Site Plan.
MR. DIXON-And on this Site Plan, before we approve it, did this part of the Site Plan include the new
patio that's going to be out back?
MR. ZAPPER-No,that was on the first one.
MR. DIXON-Okay.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#59-2023 JP GROSS PROPERTIES LLC
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board:Applicant has completed site updates
for an existing 13,500 sq. ft. building and site. Updates include new hard surfacing for a parking
arrangement. Additionally, there has been tree and vegetation removal on the Northeast side of the site.
Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040&179-9-120,site plan for additional site work,hard surfacing and removal
of trees and vegetation shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project,pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration
Determination of Non-Significance;
The Planning Board made a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals on 9/19/2023-1 the ZBA
approved the variance requests on 9/20/2023-1
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The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 9/26/2023 and continued the
public hearing to 9/26/2023,when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 9/26/2023;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 59-2023 iP GROSS PROPERTIES,LLC. Introduced by Michael
Dixon,who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted items g. site lighting, h. signage, j. stormwater, k. topography, 1.
landscaping,n traffic, o. commercial alterations/construction details,p floor plans, q. soil logs,r.
construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal as the applicant has only made changes to the
landscaping and hard surfacing related to the project work;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired.
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
Motion seconded by Brady Stark. Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. Moving right along to the third part of the project. This is JP Gross Properties
LLC,Site Plan 60-2023.
(UNAPPROVED DEVELOPMENT) SITE PLAN NO.60-2023 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. JP GROSS
PROPERTIES, LLC AGENT(S): EDP,JON LAPPER. OWNER(S): 27 SILVER CIRCLE LLC.
ZONING: CLI. LOCATION: 27 SILVER CIRCLE. APPLICANT HAS COMPLETED SITE
IMPROVEMENTS FOR AN EXISTING SITE WITH NEW HARD SURFACING FOR A PARKING
ARRANGEMENT. ALSO THE PARKING AREA THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY GRAVEL HAS BEEN
PAVED. THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR SP 62-2022,SP 30-2022
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&z SP 72-2021 REMAIN THE SAME. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 &z 179-9-120, SITE
PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL HARD SURFACING SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD
REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: SP 6-2004, SP 18-2009, SP 62-2013, SP 14-
2015,SP 72-2021,SP (M) 30-2022,SP 62-2022,PZ 0138-2016 (AV),PZ 0140-2016 (SP),RZ 4-2022,
AV 36-2023. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: SEPTEMBER 2023. LOT SIZE: 13.41 ACRES. TAX
MAP NO. 309.17-1-17.2. SECTION: 179-3-040,179-9-120.
JON ZAPPER&r NICK ZEGLEN,REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So in regards to this application, it's in regards to permeability relief and the changes of
additional hard surfacing. Their variance was granted for the permeability relief.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. ZAPPER-So on this one the line of parking spaces that were gravel, where Nick is showing you, are
on the right side of that building,facing the Brookfield Power buildings and not on the left side. So that
building blocks these spaces from the residential neighbors that are behind the other site. So no impact
on any of them. It's just paving that area that was gravel, and again there will be the berm and a fence on
the rear side as soon as the waterline is constructed,in a matter of weeks.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Questions from members of the Board? There is a public hearing on this aspect of
the project. Does anyone in the audience wish to address the Planning Board on Site Plan 60-2023 for JP
Gross Properties? I'm not seeing any. Are there written comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then we will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-And we also have a SEQR, Unlisted SEQR that we have the opportunity to reaffirm if we
feel comfortable in doing so. Does anyone have any concerns regarding any changes?
RESOLUTION REAFFIRMING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC. SP#60-2023 JP GROSS PROPERTIES LLC
The applicant has completed site improvements for an existing site with new hard surfacing for a parking
arrangement.Also the parking area that was previously gravel has been paved. The existing buildings and
site development for SP 62-2022, SP 30-2022 & SP 72-2021 remain the same. Pursuant to chapter 179-3-
040&r 179-9-120,site plan for additional hard surfacing shall be subject to site plan review and approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to
review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations
of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Short EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Whereas, the Planning Board adopted a resolution on 11/16/2021 adopting SEQRA determination of non-
significance, and
Upon review of the information recorded on the EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of Queensbury
Planning Board as lead agency reaffirms that this project will result in no significant adverse impacts on
the environment, and,therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be prepared. Accordingly,
this negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO REAFFIRM NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN 60-2023
1P GROSS PROPERTIES,LLC. Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,seconded by
Brad Magowan.
Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
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AYES: Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-And next we move on to Site Plan.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#60-2023 JP GROSS PROPERTIES LLC
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board: Applicant has completed site
improvements for an existing site with new hard surfacing for a parking arrangement. Also the parking
area that was previously gravel has been paved. The existing buildings and site development for SP 62-
2022,SP 30-2022&SP 72-2021 remain the same.Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040&179-9-120,site plan for
additional hard surfacing shall be subject to site plan review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board made a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals on 9/19/2023-1 the ZBA
approved the variance requests on 9/20/2023-1
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 9/26/2023 and continued the
public hearing to 9/26/2023,when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 9/26/2023;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 60-2023 iP GROSS PROPERTIES,LLC. Introduced by Michael
Dixon who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted items g. site lighting, h. signage, j. stormwater, k. topography, 1.
landscaping,n traffic, o. commercial alterations/construction details,p floor plans, q. soil logs,r.
construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal as the applicant has only made changes to the
hard surfacing related to the project work:
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired:
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
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h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
Motion seconded by Brady Stark. Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You are all set.
MR. ZAPPER-Thanks,everybody.
JOE GROSS
MR. GROSS-Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-The next section of our agenda is Old Business and the item on that part of the agenda is
Dunham's Bay Fish&Game Club. This is Site Plan 63-2023,and again I'll remind the Board and the public
for the record that I am a member of the Dunham's Bay Fish&Game Club. Welcome back.
MR. MAGOWAN-Excuse me,Mr. Chairman. I would like to add on that I am also a member of the Fish
Game Club.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Do you feel any problem with participating in this application?
MR. MAGOWAN-Not at all.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. I agree.
SITE PLAN NO. 63-2023 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. DUNHAMS BAY FISH &z GAME CLUB.
OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: LC-10A. LOCATION: 2080 RIDGE ROAD.
APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REMOVE A 3,936 SQ. FT. OUTDOOR RANGE PAVILION AND
CONSTRUCT A REPLACEMENT OUTDOOR RANGE PAVILION OF 2,880 SQ. FT. THE
PROJECT INCLUDES A NEW CONCRETE SLAB FOR THE STRUCTURE. THE SITE HAS AN
EXISTING BUILDING AND TWO SHEDS TO REMAIN UNCHANGED. NO OTHER SITE OR
BUILDING CHANGES ARE PROPOSED. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040,SITE PLAN FOR
IMPROVEMENTS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
CROSS REFERENCE: SP 216-2016,AV 40-2023. WARREN CO.REFERRAL: SEPTEMBER 2023.
SITE INFORMATION: APA,LGPC,CEA. LOT SIZE: 20.74 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 253.-1-19.
SECTION: 179-3-040.
PATRICK BELAND&BOB BENWAY, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. BELAND-Okay. For the record, I'm Patrick Beland. This is Bob Benway. We are both Board
members if you have any questions.
MR. TRAVER-Well,welcome back. So you were last here and we looked at your proposal in the context
of the variance that was required. I'm aware,Laura,did they receive their variance?
MRS. MOORE-That's correct. They received the variances.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you, and as a result of your conversation with the ZBA and the subsequent
granting of your variance,was there any changes in what you proposed?
MR.BELAND-No.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Questions,comments from members of the Board? Is there anyone in the audience
that wants to address the Planning Board on the Dunham's Bay Fish&Game Club application?
MR. DIXON-With this plan,just a couple of quick questions. There was no change to the lighting. I
think there's a lighting pole out there, and you've got the under canopy lighting there. No changes at all
to that? Not going to put any heaters in for anybody out there?
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MR.BELAND-No.
MR. TRAVER-Were there any written comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then we'll go ahead and close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. MAGOWAN-Mr. Chairman,just reviewing,knowing the property and knowing the slab, or should
we say multiple levels of slab,just a recommendation of what I'm seeing I like the fact of the monolithic
pour,but that,what is it,four inch center section,that concerns me. If you have to maybe add a little bit
more on to the dues,I'd look at a little more concrete and rebar across there.
MR.BELAND-Six inch.
MR. MAGOWAN-Because that's such a high water tab, and being exposed to the cold elements,it's the
frosts that have really hurt us over the years as you know.
MR.BELAND-We do have a bid on it,six inches.
MR. MAGOWAN-They did bid up to six inches in the middle?
MR.BELAND-Yes.
MR. MAGOWAN-With rebar and mesh?
MR.BELAND-Mesh.
MR.MAGO WAN-All right. I'll maybe follow upon that later with you,but really I thank you for bringing
this in.
MR. TRAVER-Any other questions,comments from members of the Board? All right. I think we're ready
to proceed.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#63-2023 DUNHAM'S BAY FISH&r GAME CLUB
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board:Applicant proposes to remove a 3,936
sq.ft.outdoor range pavilion and construct a replacement outdoor range pavilion of 2,SSO sq.ft.The project
includes a new concrete slab for the structure. The site has an existing building and two sheds to remain
unchanged. No other site or building changes are proposed. Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040, site plan for
improvements shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board made a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals on 9/19/2023-1 the ZBA
approved the variance requests on 9/20/2023-1
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 9/26/2023 and continued the
public hearing to 9/26/2023 when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 9/26/2023;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 63-2023 DUNHAM'S BAY FISH &z GAME CLUB. Introduced
by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption;
Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions:
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1) Waivers request granted items g. site lighting, h. signage, j. stormwater, k. topography, 1.
landscaping,n traffic, o. commercial alterations/construction details,p floor plans, q. soil logs,r.
construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal as the building is in a similar location as the
previous,there are no other changes to the site,and the site is 20.17 ac;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired:
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) If application was referred to engineering,then engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans.
b) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey,floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements,
c) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
d) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
e) Subsequent issuance of further permits,including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
f) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy;
g) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible.
Motion seconded by Nathan Etu. Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You are all set.
MR.BELAND-Thank you all.
MR. TRAVER-The next section of our agenda is New Business,and the single item under New Business is
Glens Falls Country Club,Site Plan 62-2023.
NEW BUSINESS:
SITE PLAN NO. 62-2023 SEQR TYPE: TYPE 11. GLENS FALLS COUNTRY CLUB. AGENT(S):
HUTCHINS ENGINEERING. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: RR-3A.
LOCATION: 211 ROUND POND ROAD APPLICANT PROPOSES WORK AT THE GLENS FALLS
COUNTRY CLUB WHERE WORK AT HOLE#1 IS SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN. THE WORK TO BE
COMPLETED INCLUDES TREE REMOVAL , SITE GRADING AND FILLING. THE TEE AREA
OF 1,500 SQ. FT.,HYDRO SEED AREA OF 4,460 SQ. FT.AND TREE CLEARING LIMIT OF 6,950
SQ. FT. THE PROJECT WORK IS WITHIN SHORELINE AREA. THE PROJECT ALSO
INCLUDES SITE WORK FOR HOLES 5,10,12 AND 16. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040&z
179-6-050,SITE PLAN FOR HOLE# 1 WORK WITHIN 35 FT OF THE SHORELINE OF ROUND
POND INCLUDING VEGETATION REMOVAL SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD
REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: RZ 2-2023. WARREN CO. REFERRAL:
SEPTEMBER 2023. SITE INFORMATION: CEA. LOT SIZE: 111.18 ACRES&z 77.01 ACRES. TAX
MAP NO.296.6-1-12,296.10-1-20. SECTION: 179-3-040,179-6-050.
JON ZAPPER&TOM CENTER, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So this application is for work at the Glens Falls Country Club, and specifically Hole
Number One. The tee area of 1500 square feet,the hydro seeded area of 4,460 square feet. There's a tree
clearing limit of 6,950 square feet. There's project work within the shoreline and I'll correct myself. David
asked a question earlier in regards to buffer requirements for specific shorelines. This Round Pond would
be considered needing a shoreline buffer. However this project actually is greater than 20 feet. So it does
not need one. But I just wanted to correct myself. I told David something different earlier.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you.
MRS.MOO RE-Other than that,it's primarily for Hole One. As you've driven by there you obviously know
there's some work being done on the site. They have obtained their MS-4 coverage. I think that's the
right term,and then so there's work being done on Holes 5,10,12 and 16.
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MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MR.ZAPPER-Good evening,everyone. For the record,Jon Lapper with project engineer Tom Center. So
as you will recall, at the beginning of the year we asked for a re-zoning because it was determined that the
northern half of Glens Falls Country Club was not a permitted use,even though it's been in existence since
1911. So on your recommendation the Town Board did re-zone it and so now it's a permitted use,and that
allows them to go and do,you know,initially, some minor projects important to the Golf Course,but as
Laura mentioned,and we're here tonight for,it's all 1000/o impervious to 1000/o impervious. There's a couple
of tee lots. There's a couple of greens and fairways which everyone appreciated because now it's a
permitted use. So this is the only one that required Planning Board, Site Plan Review because of the
proximity to Round Pond but what's going on here,and the reason for this,is the Golf Course was Donald
Ross,the famous golf course designer,and Tom knows the issue better than me,but at some point Round
Pond Road went in and at some point power lines went in,and it changed it a little bit from what was the
original design, and the idea here is it's important because it's the first tee box is to move it back so that
it's a longer hole and to the original location of the Donald Ross design,and that's all that this is about. So
there are some trees that grew up behind it that have to be taken down. Again, everything's going to be
permeable and there's still trees between here and the pond and no one's going to see it across the pond,
but I'll let Tom give you the details.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you.
MR. CENTER-It's pretty straightforward erosion and sediment control project that we're looking at. We
provided the silt fence predominantly for erosion and sediment control. There'd be clearing,as Laura said,
just under seven thousand square feet of tree clearing. We're creating a sodded walk up in the front of the
green, creating a 1500 square foot tee box, and then hydro seeding the entire area. It's a golf course crew
that actually came up from New Jersey that's doing the work. Fall's the best time to get grass established
and a healthy growth before next spring. So these guys know what they're doing. They're very
professional,good hydro seed there and stabilization. You can see from the other projects they've got the
silt fence up and they're maintaining everything in there. It's a pretty straightforward project at this point.
We'd take any questions that you have.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. MAGOWAN-I see this hasn't affected too many golfers. I see them out there getting around. So
that's great.
MR. DIXON-So am I reading the plans right? So there's over an acre of trees that are going to be removed
then?
MR. CENTER-There's seven thousand square feet of trees on this project. Over the total of the entire
project,including all the other holes,that's what we had to fill out for a Notice of Intent to get the MS-4
signoff is all the work totaled more than an acre of disturbance,the holes that weren't subject to site plan
review, that's the reason for the Notice of Intent. We're only here for this one piece. That's only seven
thousand square feet of disturbance in this spot,or on this hole. The total area of disturbance,5,960 square
feet,that you see on the right hand box,this is tee box,the entire area to be disturbed is 5,960 square feet.
MR. DEEB-Do you have any idea how many,the number of trees that are going to be taken down?
MR. CENTER-I don't know. There's skinny trees,large trees. There's quite a few in there,but I mean
the way,what they're trying to do is to get back to the original distance for this hole when the County put
the road in. So I know that these,the dimensions and the parameters for this were done by a golf course
designer and then handed over to me to maintain the stormwater and the erosion control, and there's still
a buffer between the tee box area and Round Pond.
MR. TRAVER-And when the course was created those trees were not there,correct? So they grew up as
the result of the course having to be changed because of the modern infrastructure.
MR. CENTER-That's our understanding.
MR. TRAVER-So this is a restoration,essentially,of what originally was designed.
MR. DEEB-One more question. I assume that,do they use pesticides on the tees?
MR. CENTER-I'm not familiar with that.
MR. DEEB-It's right on the lake.
MR. CENTER-It's right on Round Pond. That's correct.
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MR. DEEB-There's concern, and I've got to believe they'd have to use, they probably use pesticides. I'm
just worried about the environmental impact.
MR. ZAPPER-It's on Round Pond right now.
MR. DEEB-Yes,the smaller tee. The one up front.
MR. ZAPPER-Yes.
MR. DEEB-Which is smaller than what's there now,what's going to be there. Right?
MR. CENTER-It is graded to drain from the tee box down into the green area to the east. So nothing is,
what we're doing,everything is draining away from the pond.
MR. DEEB-From the pond.
MR. CENTER-There's no change in the flow of direction and part of what we had to do for the Notice of
Intent was there's no increase in runoff rate or quantity,plus it does,like I said,it does drain toward a low
section and into the green area.
MR.DEEB-All right. You know how I hate seeing trees get cut down,but in this case this is a unique case,
a golf course,you're going to improve it.
MR.MAGOWAN-The question I have,you talk about Round Pond Road going in there,but there used to
be a railroad track that went right along,and even along Round Pond Road,you could see right on the edge
of Country Club,it used to go all the way down to Glen Lake,to get ice back in the day.
MR. ZAPPER-Now we go to Stewart's.
MR. MAGOWAN-But you said the road wasn't there. Most of the roads that have been developed were
either,you know, tracks and railroad tracks that have been turned over. So I was just a little confused,
but my main concern is really making sure that the runoff rolls away from the lake with pesticides and
even the nitrates you worry about, because there's some big, big snappers in that pond, and there's also
some big rainbow. I did catch an 1S inch out of there one time and it shocked me,out of a 99 cent nip from
Wal-Mart and I couldn't believe it. I was just playing around out there.
MR. DEEB-When I was a kid there used to be, it was called Paradise Lake. It had a swimming resort,
arcade. That was one of the nicest lakes to ever swim in. I remember it as a kid. Cold,spring fed.
MR. TRAVER-Anything else from the Board?
MR. STARK-I think this is a good project, Mr. Chairman. They went over the plans for runoff. It goes
east. It doesn't go near the lake. So I would be in favor of this.
MR. TRAVER-There is a public hearing on this application as well. Is there anyone in the audience that
wanted to comment to the Planning Board on Site Plan 62-2023? Not seeing any takers, are there written
comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Then we will go ahead and close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-This is a SEQR Type II. So no additional action is required. Any last items from members
of the Board before we consider Site Plan? No? Okay.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#62-2023 GLENS FALLS COUNTRY CLUB
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board:Applicant proposes work at the Glens
Falls Country Club where work at hole#1 is subject to site plan. The work to be completed includes tree
removal,site grading and filling. The tee area of 1,500 sq.ft.,hydro seed area of 4,460 sq.ft.and tree clearing
limit of 6,950 sq.ft.The project work is within shoreline area. The project also includes site work for holes
5,10,12 and 16.Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040&179-6-050,site plan for hole#1 work within 35 ft. of the
shoreline of Round Pond including vegetation removal shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
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Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 9/26/2023 and continued the
public hearing to 9/26/2023,when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 9/26/2023;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 62-2023 GLENS FALLS COUNTRY CLUB; Introduced by
Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted items g. site lighting, h. signage, n traffic, o. commercial alterations/
construction details,p floor plans,q.soil logs,r.construction/demolition disposal s.snow removal
as the site work for site plan is focused on hole #1 and the information for the work has been
provided;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired;
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
Motion seconded by Brady Stark. Duly adopted this 26`h day of September 2023 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You are all set.
MR. ZAPPER-We really appreciate it.
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MR. TRAVER-That completes our agenda. Is there any other business before the Board this evening?
Laura, did you have anything for us?
MRS. MOO RE-Only that we have a fairly light agenda next month. There are two meetings and just the
applications that I've been reviewing they finished all my pre-applications to submit and they haven't come
in yet.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Well if there's nothing further,I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
MR. MAGOWAN-So moved.
MOTION TO ADJOURN THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF SEPTEMBER
26TI,2023,Introduced by Brad Magowan who moved for its adoption,seconded by Warren Longacker:
Duly adopted this 26`h day of September,2023,by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker, Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-We stand adjourned. Thanks,everybody.
On motion meeting was adjourned.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Stephen Traver,Chairman
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