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SEPTEMBER 14 , 1982
TOWN BOARD MEETING SE
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Mrs. Frances Walter-Supervisor
Mr. Daniel Olson-Councilman
Dr. Charles Eisenhart-Councilman
I Mr. Daniel MorreZZ-CounciZman
1 Mrs . Betty Monahan-Councilman
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ABSENT; Mr. Joseph Brennan-Town Counsel
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN MORRELL
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TOWN OFFICIALS: Mr. Mack Dean, Mr. Paul Naylor, Mr. Ralph VanDusen
GUESTS Residents of JenkinsviZZe Road, Mr. Steve HaZZ, League of Women Voters
PRESS: G.F. Post Star
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Meeting Opened 7:44 P.M.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE MINUTES
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RESOLUTION NO. 307, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption
secon e y . DanieZ Morrell:
l RESOLVED, that the Town Board Minutes of August 24, 1982 be and hereby are approved.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None j
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RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF A $22,400.00 BOND ANTICIPATION RENEWAL NOTE
OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, COUNTY OF WARREN, STATE OF NEW YORK TO RENEW IN PART
A $28,000.00 BOND ANTICIPATION NOTE OF SAID TOWN TO PAY PART OF TEE COST OF THE
PURCHASE OF AN EXCAVATOR FOR SAID TOWN.
RESOLUTION NO. 308, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Morrell who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. DanieZ Olson:
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury on September 21, 1981 adopted a
bond anticipation note resolution in the amount of $28,000.00; and
WHEREAS, ouch bond &ntic-"pation note subsequently was sold by the Supervisor of
the Town of Queensbury to the First National Bank of Glens Falls, Glens FaUs, New
York; and
WHEREAS, said bond:;anticipation note is due and payable as of September 22, 1982;
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury be and she hereby is authorizeeT
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(a) Pay toward said bond anticipation note the sum of $5,600.00,• and
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(b) Renew partially said bond anticipation note with a balance of j
1 $223400.00 with the First National Bank of Glens Falls, Glens Falls,
New York for a period running September 22, 1982 to September 21, 1983
with interest at the rate of seven and five tenths (7. 5%) percent
per annum. (A copy of the renewal bond anticipation note is attached hereto).
Duty adopted by the foZZowing vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
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RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED USE OF FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS
RESOLUTION NO. 309, Introduced b Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved 4
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seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart: E
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town-:,of Queensbury conduct a public hearing
on the proposed use of Federal Revenue Sharing Funds for 1983 on Tuesday, September
28, 1982 at 7:30 P.M. at the Town Office Building, Bay and Haviland Roads, Glens Falls,
New York and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk be authorized to publish in the local newspaper, the time }
and place of the proposed hearing in accordance with law:
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED
USE OF FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS
The Town Board of the Town of Queensbury will conduct a public hearing on Tuesday,
September 28, 1982 at the Queensbury Town Office Building, Bay and Haviland Roads,
Glens Falls, New York at 7:30 P.M, on the proposed use of Federal Revenue Sharing Funds ,
for 1983.
ALL persons present at this hearing have the right to present written and oral comments
on the proposed uses of FRS funds. The amount of FRS funds the recipient government
anticipates receiving during its fiscal year is $160,643.00.
DuZy adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. OZson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
Councilman Eisenhart- questioned how the figure was arrived at?
Supervisor Walter- it is a complicated formula which is put together by the Federal
Government—it is based on population, income. . .they have estimated what we are going
to get, this year on the final quarter payment they indicated to us that we would be
Five Thousand Dollars Less then originally estimated—we have been told by Congressmon
Solomon that the formula would remain the same for 1983.
Discussion held in regard to Fire Prevention Code. . .noted that next resolution in
regard to the Fire Code would be to set a public hearing. . .Councilman Eisenhart
noted that the Board had met with the Fire Study Committee and reeommenhtions were
made. . .
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE BINGO LICENSE
RESOLUTION NO, 310, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Morrell who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
RESOLVED, that Bingo License No. 17023 be and hereby is approved allowing Glens Falls
Lodge No. 81 Elks to hold Bingo from September 29, 1982 through March 23, 1983.
DuZy adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF A $39,000.00 BOND ANTICIPATION RENEWAL NOTE OF
THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, COUNTY OF WARREN, STATE OF NEW YORK TO RENEW IN PART A
$65,000.00 BOND ANTICIPATION NOTE OF SAID TOWN TO PAY PART OF THE COST OF THE
PURCHASE OF A GRADER FOR SAID TOWN.
RESOLUTION , 311, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Dr. Charles Eisenhart:
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury on September 10, 1980 adopted a
bond anticipation resolution in the amount of $65,000.00; and
WHEREAS, such bond anticipation note subsequently was sold by the Supervisor of
the Town of Queensbury to the First National Bank of Glens Falls, Glens Falls,
New York; and
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WHEREAS, said bond anticipation note is due and payable as of September 16, 1982.
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NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
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(a) Pay toward said bond anticipation note the sum of $13,000.00; and
3 (b) Renew partiaZZy said bond anticipation note with a baZance of
$39,000. 00 with the First National Bank of ,Zens Falls, Glens Falls,
New York for a period run?iing from September 16, 1982 to September
15, 1983 with interest at the rate of seven and five tenths (7.5%) percent =
per annum. (A copy of the renewal bond anticipation note is
attached hereto).
DuZy adopted by the following vote
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER FUNDS
RESOLUTION NO. 312, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
,Whereas, certain appropriations were overestimated and others underestimated, Now,
THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, to transfer
$1790. 00 from C8810. 1 Personal Services to
C8810.440 Contractual
$ 741.00 from C8810.2 Equipment to
C900.9010 Retirement
$1000.00 from C900.9050 Unemployment Insurance to
C900.9010 Retirement
$ 400.00 from C900.9040 Workers Compensation to
C8810.450 Fuel OV
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER FUNDS
RESOLUTION NO, 313, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its adoption
seconded by Mrs. Betty Monahan:
RESOLVED, to transfer $715. 30 from A1990.0 Contingent account to A1440.440
Engineer, Contractual for J. ,VanDusen Surveying bills.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. MorreZZ, Mrs. Mahahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: Norte
RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER FUNDS
RESOLUTION NO. 314, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
RESOLVED, to transfer $4,535.97 from A5010.100 Superintendent Highway, PersonnaZ Services
to A9010.800 Employee Benefits Retirement.
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Duty adopted by the following vote:
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Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
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COMMUNICATIONS
Mobile Home Application- Steven Hall of Mt. View Trailer Court to locate a mobile I
home on end of Bennett Road. . .Air. Hall was persent. . .
Councilman Olson- Do you own the mobile home now? j
Steven Hall- no E
Councilman Olson- what year is the mobile home?
Steven Hatt- newer thanr,.1974
RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE PUBLIC HEARING
RESOLUTION NO. 315, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Morrell who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
WHEREAS, Steve Hall has made application in accordance with paragraph 2 (c) Section 4,
of an ordinance of the Town of Queensbury entitled ORDINANCE FOR THE REGULATION
OF MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE HOME COURTS IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, WARREN COUNTY,
NEW YORK, to locate a mobile home outside at property situated at Bennett Road, and
WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that said application complies with the requirements
of said ordinance, and
WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that the facts presented in said application are
sufficient to justify further consideration by this board, therefore be it
RESOLVED, that pursuant to the provisions of the above mentioned ordinance, the
Town Board shaZZ conduct a public hearing on said application on September 28, 1982
at 7:30 P.M. at the Queensbury Town Office Building, Bay Road, and that the Town Cb�k
is hereby authorized and directed to give proper notice of said public hearing in
accordance with the provisions of said ordinance.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
Ltr.-Building & Zoning Office- request to attend conference by Mack Dean
(on file)
Councilman Eisenhart- requested that Mr. Dean use the Town Car if possible
RESOLUTION TO ATTEND CONFERENCE
RESOLUTION NO. 316, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Mrs. Betty Monahan:
RESOLVED, that permission is hereby granted to Mr. Mack A. Dean to attend the
New York State Building Officials Conference at FaZlwiew Hotel, EZZenviZle
New York from September 29th to October 1, 1982., and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes payment of all reasonable and necessary
expenses.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. MorreZZ, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: Novae
Ltr. Dick Roberts-PZanning Board requesting permission to attend 44th Annual
Planning and Zoning Institute (on file)
RESOLUTION TO ATTEND PLANNING AND ZONING INSTITUTE
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1 RESOLUTION N0. 317, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
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RESOLVED, that permission is hereby granted to members of the Queensbury Planning
Board to attend the 44th Annual-PZanning and Zoning Institute at Albany, New York
on October 3,4,5, 1982 and be tt further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes �xdzz�'ment of .dU reascmaab�R :avtd necessary
expenses.
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Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter -
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Noes: None
Absent: None
Bid Opening on Water Dept. materials:
Clow Corp. 82-12 -$4.31612.48 82-17 $2,440.00 82-23 $12,215.12
Waterford, New York 82-13 $ 880.00 82-18 $13,837.44 82-21 $ 280.00
82-14 $4,296.00 82-19 $ 6,819. 70 82-22 $ 33 459. 36
82-16 $43 025.60 + 1J288.00 Non eoZ. attached
Griffin Pipe Inc. 82-15 $343579.00
FZorence, New Jersey 82-20 $753024.00
82-24 $323050.00 Non co Z. attached
VeZlano Bros. Inc. 82-12 $33600.00 82-17 $2,348.50 82-22 $2,700.00
{ Lathan?, N.Y. 82-13 $ 847.00 82-18 $10J800.00 82-23 $11J593.40
82-14 $3,755.00 82-19 $8,051.40
82-16 $3,951. 55 82-21 $ 273.00 Non eoZ, attached
U.S. Pipe and Foundry Co. 82-20 $763751.00
Burlington, New Jersey 82-24 $32, 730.00
82-15 $35,560.50 Non Col. attached
Atlantic States Cast Iron Pipe 82-15 $33,899.50
Phillipsburg, New Jersey 82-20 $733497.00
82-24 $31,390.00 Non Col. attached
LeVaZZey McLeod 82-12 $ 31520.00 82-17 $ None 82-22 $23640.00
Schenectady, N.Y. 82-13 $ None 82-18 $10,560.00
82-14 $ 3,915.00 82-19 $ None
82-16 $ None 82-23 $113119.00
82-21 $None
Ltr. Thomas FZaherty recommending that certain bids be accepted ion file)
RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT BID ON WATER DEPARTMENT MATERIALS
RESOLUTION NO, 318, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
WHEREAS, Mr. Thomas FZaherty, Water Superintendent for the Town of Queensbury did
recommend that we advertise for bids for Water Department Materials, and
WHEREAS, Six bids were submitted.and received and opened at the specified time and
place by the Director of Purchasing/Town CZerk Donald A. Chase and such bids were
then turned over to Mr. Flaherty for his recommendation, and
WHEREAS, Mr. Thomas Flaherty, by letter has recommended that the bid be awarded to
the following:
LeVaZZey McLeod - Spec. 82-12 $3,520.00
82-18 $10,560.00
82-22 $2,640.00
82-23 $113119.00
Vellano Bros. Inc. 82-13 $ 847.00
82-14 $ 33755.00
82-16 $ 33951.55
82-17 $ 23348.50
82-19 $ 83051.40
j 82-21 $ 273.00
Atlantic States Pipe 82-15 $33,-899,.50
82-20 $733497.00
82-24 $31,390.00
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NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of pueensbury hereby accepts the bid I
as follows;
LeVaZZey McLeod 82-12 . $ 3.520,'00 F
82-18 $10,560.00
82-22 $ 2J640. 00 !
82-23 $11,119.00
Vellano Bros. 82-13 $ 847.00 i
82-14 $ 33755.00 j
82-16 $ 33951.55
82-17 $ 2,348.50
82-19 $ 8,051.40
82-21 $ 273.00
Atlantic States 82-15 $333899.50
82-20 $733497.00
82-24 $313390.00
and be it further
RESOLVED, that the financing for such materials is pending.
DuZy adopted by the following note:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
Bid Opening-TeZephone System-
SCI Communications Inc.
Saratoga Springs, N.Y. $33:,160.00 trade in $1,526.00
Net $31,634.00
2 yr. maintenance $1,768.80
New York Telephone
Albany, N.Y. Bid not broken down (on file)
r Executone of Albany, Inc.
AZbany, New York $253784.00
maintenance $1.90 per phone
RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT BID
RESOLUTION NO. 319, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel OZoon r-
(Councilman Eisenhart introduced the resolutin for awarding the bid to Executone of
Albany)
Discussion- Councilman Morrell- questioned the $1.90 per phone maintenance. . .
Representative from Executone- noted that the maintenance started on the second year
and was $1.90 per phone per month. . .Councilman Olson- what would be the response time
for repairs- Representative-approximately one hour and a half. . .Supervisor Walter questioned
if some of the N.Y. Cables would be removed for a savings.. .the Representative did
not know about this. . .it was decided to table the resolutivn until further information
is available. . .
RESOLUTION TO TABLE
RESOLUTION NO. 320, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Davie Z Olson:
RESOLVED, that Resolution No. 319 of 1982 be and hereby is tabled for further
investigation until Sbptember 28th 1982.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
Bid Opening- One Ton Pickup-Highway
Ford Garage
Glens Falls, N.Y. $113910.00
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1 MaZtbie 's Garage
3 Lake George, N.Y. $113839.15
Bid Opening 314 Ton Pickup - Highway
Ford Garage
Glens Falls, N.Y. $113490.00
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Maltbie Is Garage
Lake George, N.Y. $12,171.00
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,i Bid Opening Woodchipper-Highway
T&T Body King
Latham, N.Y. $11,768.00
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AbeZe �.Traetor
1 Albany, N.Y. $10, 710. 00
Tarrant Mfg. Co.
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Saratoga Springs, N.Y. $10,627.47
R.B. Wing
Albany, N.Y. $ 93 980.00
Mr. Paul Naylor= noted that there would be no trade in's on the vehicles. . .
3 Ltr. Mr. Naylor- requesting that the low bidders be accepted (on file)
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RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT BIDS ON NEW ONE TON DUMP TRUCK, ONE 314 TON PICKUP and
ONE WOODCHIPPER
RESOLUTION NO, 321, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
WHEREAS, Mr. Paul NaiyZor, Highway Superintendent for the Town of Queensbury did
recommend that we advertise for bids for a One Ton Dump Truck, a 314 Ton Pick up
and a Woodchipper and
WHEREAS Six Bids were submitted and received and opened at the specified time
and place by the Director of Purchasing/Town Clerk Donald A. Chase, and such
bids were then turned over to Mr. Naylor for his recommendation and
WHEREAS, Mr. Paul Naylor by fetter has recommended that the bids be awaAd as
follows:
Woodchipper R.B. Wing & Son Corp. $93980.00
One Ton Truck- MaZtbie 's Garage Co., Inc. $11,839.15
314 Ton Pickup-Ford Garage Co. In.c $113490.00
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby accepts the bid of
1 R. B. Wing and Son Corp. for a Wooddhipper in the amount of $9,980.00-MaZtbie 's
Sara& for a one Ton Truck in'the amount of $11,839. 15 and Ford Garage for a
314 Ton Pickup in the amount of $11,490.00
and be it further
RESOLVED that the financing for such materials is 'included in the 1982 Highway
Budget. ;
Duly adopted by the following vote:
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Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
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Noes: None
Absent: None
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Ltr. from Thomas Flaherty requesting permitsion for Diput� 47ater Supt., Water Supt.
and two additional employees to attend the AWWC on 9-21 through 9-24. (on file)
t Discussion held- Councilman Morrell asked how many are expected at the conference
Ralph VanDusen- approximately 450.
Supervisor Walter- noted that Mr. Flaherty and Mr. VanDusen have worked approximately
two yearsto get the 1982 Fall AWWC to be held in the area. . .the Queensbury Water
Dept. will be the host. . .
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RESOLUTION TO ATTEND CONFERENCE
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RESOLUTION NO, 322, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mgrs. Betty Monahan:
RESOLVED, that permission is hereby granted to the Queensbury Water Superintendent,
the Deputy Water Superintendent and two water department employees to attend the
American Water Works 1982 Fall Conference held in Gins Falls, New York on September
21st, through September 24th 1982, and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes payment of all reasonable and necessary I
expenses. 1
DuZy adopted by the following vote:
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Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
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Absent: None
Ltr. Fire Marshal Bodenweiser- request to attend two meetings one at Montour Falls, N.Y.
and one at Hartford Connecticut. (Ztr, on file)
Councilman Eisenhart- questioned if Mr. Bodenweiser had enough funds in his budget?
Mr. Bodenweiser- yes
RESOLUTIQVTO ATTEND 69NFERENCE
RESOLUTION NO. 323, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
RESOLVED, that permission is hereby granted to Mr. William Bodenweiser to attend
the Annual N.Y.S. Fire Marshals Meeting at Montour Falls, N.Y, on October 17 through
the 18th and to attend the I.S.F. I. Professional Improvement Seminar at Hartford
Connecticut on October 28 through the 31st. 1982, and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes payment of all reasonable and necessary
expenses.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
Ltr. September 10, 1982
Town Board of Queensbury
Bay Road
Glens Falls, New York 12801
Dear Supervisor cod Town Board"
it has come to my attention that the Queensbury Conservation Advisory Council
is still in existence but has no active or present members.
I'm very interested in the responsibilities and functions of this council within
the Township of Queensbury.
Since the placement of members on this Council is "Appointment b the Town Board",
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I'am formally requesting that I be considered for filling one of the currect vacancies.
I feel that this Council is very important to the welfare tf the Town and its
natural resources and should not be Left stagnant.
Please contact me at coy time in regard to my application to the Council.
Sincerely,
/s/
Frank LaBatore
The following reports were placed on file: Town CZerkmonth of August
Building & Zoning-month of August.
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Councilman Olson- noted he received a call from a resident on Sweet Road requesting
that the speed Limit be Lowered
Mr. Bill Bishop- presented the Town Board with a petition from the Residents of the
area requesting a Lower speed Limit on Sweet Road and that the Stop Signs on Sweet
and Montrazy Road be replaced. . .
Discussion held- it was noted that in June the Town Board requested a study of the
speed limit on Sweet Road, in August the state replied setting the speed limit
at 45 mph. it was suggested that the Town resubmit its request and urge
that the speed Limit be Lowered to 30 mph. . .
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RESOLUTION TO REQUEST LOWER SPEED LIMIT
RESOLUTION NO. 32 , Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its
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adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
WBEBEAR , the Town Board on September 14 received a petition from residents
of Sweet Road requesting a speed Limit of 30 mph on *ir street, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board is also concerned over the speed Limit recently set
by the State Department of Transportation NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby requests that the
State Department of Transportation r6ovaZuate the speed Limit it recently set on
Sweet Road and consider Lowering it to thirty miles per hour.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
OPEN FORUM 8:44 P.M.
' Frank Labatore-Jenki�isvi Ue Road-asked if the Town Board had received a Letter
from ENCON regarding contamination at the landfill?
Supervisor WaZter-yesterday. .the Board has not seen it yet, the Letter was addressed
tome. . .
Frank Labatore- read the petition as presented tb -the Rown Board at the Last meeting. . .
When you receive a Letter from Encon awes the oth6r Board Members receive a copy?
Supervisor Walter- not unless it is addressed to the Town Board.
Frank Labatore- what has been done with the petition in general?
Supervisor WaZter- the Board members have been up to the Landfill, Mr. Coughlin is doing
a good job. .
Councilman Monahan- Today I met with your committee and with Mr. Coughlin and toured
the Landfill, they brought out the points that they were concerned about and I think.,
got some answers.. .
Councilman .Olson- in regard to cleaning up the Landfill, the Landfill has been
completely fenced and grass areas. . .
Frank Labatore- Has the closure plan for the dump site been done yet?
CounciZman Olson-Reviewed the Landfill committee and how it is set up . Mr. Coughlin
is working on plans and some surveying work has been done, the work will begin
this fall and next spring to close off the landfill. . .
Supervisor Walter- the State is looking for Engineering plans and we are now doing
the preliminary work. . .
Mrs. Huzar- Do you have a time in which this will be completed?
Councilman OZson-Our plans call fdr next year, if the State,requirements do 'not change
between now and then. At one time the requirements were to top szZ it, seed it and mow
it --,zbhich we could meet very easily.
Frank Labatore- We are interested in the test that are taken at the landfill, are the
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Councilman Olson- The samples were taken. . .i do n6t know if the results are back yet.
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Mrs. Huzar- The test were taken the results are not back yet. t
Frank Labatore-Ie the Landfill equiped to handle toxics wastes at all;' the landfill
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Councilman Olson- The area that we are presently using is equiped and has been built
with a liner of material which comes from Finch Pruyn, which was accepted by ENCON. . .
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Councilman Eisenhart- I do not think that it has ever been set up for a dump site I
for toxic substances, however in any landfill there are toxic substances. . . the liner #
is to prevent the stuff from entering the ground water. . .
Councilman Olson- Also a collection system was built at the lower site to collect
`-' the run off that may appearjwhieh was built at the direction of ENCON. . . f
Mrs. Huzar-Rainbow Trail-read Ze6ter that was sent to Mrs. Walter, from Region 5 Environment
at Quality dated September 10, 1982 (on file) read the tabular of Lead, Mercury,
Chromium, Iron and Manganese Listing the standards and the analysis samples at the
test site. . .
Supervisor Walter- On-:;quit ,the t5tk 'Towtt 'Board would like
to be provided with a data which based your statment that the monitoring wells is
contaminated by Zeachg#e. Your Letter is Lacking in specifics and I asked in my Limited
technical knowledge the word contamination runs a broad spectrum from minute to
severe. I said residents of the landfill area appeared at the Town Board Meeting Last
evening are extremely upset with the information garnered from the ENCON files. I enclosed
copies of the petition that Mr. Labatore referred to at the beginning of the meeting.
Files of the Town do not contain any reference to these OZZeged concerns of ENCON.
Since I have been the Town Supervisor there has been no correspondence to the Town
from ENCON relative to the same. He went back to the Sept. 81 Letter whi-12h we did
discuss., but which in your conversation�whre you were concerned with the operation of
the Zandfill� that these,;parameters that were discussed are in areas of the old ZandfiZZ,,
so we are not determining from the information as to whether our present operation
is in fact full of contaminants.
UNKNOWN- I was under the understanding that the test were taken from the test wells.
Supervisor Walter- This L-otter was 1981 add Dunn-Geo Science drilled their own wells
severdLoof which were inoperable after a time and other wells were drilled.
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Mrs. Huzar- we are dealing with the current operation, there was no testing taken from
the old landfill site, these 'test and results are from the monitoring wells two and
three at the new Landfill site. . .
Supervisor Walter- In talking with Mr. CoZden Today he indicated that my information was
correct and that we do have testing reports on the office weZZ and other two wells. . .
but this information in the Letter goes back to the Dunn-Geo Science where they had
thr own wells.
Mrs. Huzar- The only one that the Dunn-Geo Science report deals with is the manganese. . .
and it iO so stated--in the letter.
Supervisor WaZter- I have information from Dunn that they have tested for various
elements. . . I understand that the State Dept. of HeaZth has tested a well in your
area•►is the test results back?
Mrs. Huzar-no We are saying that the test wells are contaminated with lead, Mercury,
Chromium, Iron , Manganese-at this moment we do not know as of this date what other
substances they are contaminated with, we would like an extensive test taken of those
I wells, we are asking for a priority one analysis on those wells. . .if it finds out that
it is further contaminated, it is only 100' from Mud Pond it seems only inevitable
that it is traveling. We would Like to know what contamination there is at the landfill
if it is there]how far has it gone. If it has gone, then find out if it has done into
our water. . .if it has,we would Like a solution, if"it has not.,we would Like a program
set up to monitor this. . .
Supervisor WLilter- wouldn't it be wise to waitc.�for the well test to come back?
Mrs. Huzar- They did not give a priority one analysis
Councilman Monahan- Fran, what they are asking for is a more eomplete test, than anything
that we do, do—because of all the different kinds of substances that they believe
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are coming into the Landfill.
Mrs. Huzar- in the Dunn-Geo Science Report they:-were concerned about the suspected
PCB's dumping at the old Landfill site-they do not know that the contamination
in the monitoring welts is coming from the old ZandfiZZ site or if the Ziner
at the new ZandfiZZ is contributing Zeachate,.they do not know, no testing has ever been
taken, to prove where it is coming from.
Supervisor Walter-Mr. CoZden, in my conversations with him and I think he indicated to
you that there were no PCB's, is that correct?
Mrs. Huzar- no that is not correct.
Supervisor Walter- I have talked with Mr. CoZden and his �oss�-I ,�j d if we were
having a problem with ENCON and what we were doing up at; edai?-T#Sre was any
l cause for concern I was assured by ENCON that they have no problem with the Queens
bury ZandfiZZ. . .I talked today with Mr. CoZden and Mr. CorZiss, I indicated that
the residents in the Town were very concerned and I felt that we needed to continue
a dialogue and to find out whether there was in fact a problem. If there is determined
that there is a problem by the results of the water that you are concerned about at
your residen ass then the Town would certainly work with both State Agencies in doing
something to eliminate the problem. . .but we have got to find out there is a -rproblem
and in our conversations we are dealing with results of wells are being tesadftow
by the Dept. of HeaZth.
Mrs. Huzar- There is definette contamination at the Landfill on site.
Supervisor Witter- yes, in Zeachate collection systems which are pumped. . .in a Letter
that was dated August 23rd. Mr. CoZden sgys it looks Like it is not working, I replied
to him, Zets get together and find out what does work, if you do not want us to dump
it on top maybe you want us to truck it out, we are going to do that. . .I do not believe
we are in the maket for expensive testing of the water on the site because the water
on the site could be very very different off the site because of such thi.ngstas dilution
. .so the water testing is going to be different in the various areas, if the water
has traveled and you are picking it up in your we Us,, then that will be a time when
we can Zook at it.
Mrs. Huzar- you must start at the source, we are asking for a priority one test. . .
on those wells. . . then we will know what to Zook for in our wells. . .
Councilman Monahan- I think what they are trying to say is the Town is testing
for five heavy metals and another test for twentyone chemicals, they feel that
the testing is inadequate for all the Wings that are going into that ZandfiZZ they
would Zike to find out what is in the Zeachate, so they know the type of thin#s they
should be looking for in their own weZZjif it is seaping from the ZandfiZZ into whew
they are.
M-a .Huzar- presented the Town Board with pictures of the area. . .
Sandra B.vwn - If we pay $1300 for testing our wells and it shows that our wells
are contaminated from the dumpy wiZZ be be reimbursed for that money?
Supervisor Walter- Thos-,Town is not going to reimburse you for anything, I indicated
at the Last meeting,we neith6r had the money or the expertise here, that the Town reZ zes
on the state agencies Dept. of HeaZth and ENCON for expertise and for these kinds
of testing. Right now, I am having the results of the testing reviewed by an engineer
other than ENCON, I will take the opinion of the expert. . .we are going to deal with
the facts not emotions. . .Enc6n is very happy with the way the landfill is running
they are not taking any Legal steps, I asked today if they were going to do sow they
said they were not.
Mr. Watt Stevenson- you cannot stand the smelt of my water. . .the well was perfect
until the liandfiZZ was started. . .
Supervisor Walter- The ZandfiZZ was started in 1946.
Mr. Watt Stevenson- I have been here since 1932. . . .I am sure you will not give us
a- tax break because you ruined the water in the area. . .
Unknown- the old dump site is unlined, no matt�r what is put on top to cap its the fact
that there is no Ziner under this, that cannot Shanged. . .you have fifteen acres of
unlined dump site., god knows what was dumped in there. . .it is inevitaiZe that all of this
is coming down. . .one priority test on well two or three would be sufficient for now. . .
Edward Marino-If something does show up in these tests, these companies should be held
back, this is another concern we have , . asked if waste oils are bring dumped at the
ZandfiZZ? Are the companies in the area dumping ZegaZZy or iZZegaZZy?
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Supervisor Walter- The tests will show what is there,not how long. . . at least now
we have people at the landfill on the hours that are open . . f
Councilman Monahan- you have no idea what is doming in on the trucks, no one does. . . d
UNKNOWN Do you have a town policy that dictates to Mr. Coughlin -Mw to monitor the
dump?
Supervisor Walter- I think the policy, and I have discussed it with Mr. Coughlin
as I think the members of the ZandfiZZ committee have over the years, the purpose
of the landfill is for eommerciaZ and household garbage that is what its is designed
for. . . the employees certain#et Mr. Coughlin know when anythingo -unusuaZ comes into
the dump.
UNKNOWN y o u are saying that these people at the land f ll monitor in some
way?
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Supervisor Walter - yes, I would say that informally they are monitors. . .they are
not checking every load. . .
UNKNOWN- noted that if trucks are allowed to dump anything '3 the this cald
effect the residentsdown the road in the future. . . j
Supervisor Walter- that is why we are required to line now and in the past we were not. I
spoke on the testing that was done 6k the liner material before it was used. . .we have tried
to do what they said was right in order to control the quality of the environment. ..
we could be doing everthing right here and coZZecting the Zeachate, youtweZZs could
be contaminated but it may be coming from another area who is not doing anythin4.. .
it will be difficult to determine that even through testing when other areas are not
being tested at all.
dames Broderick-Zett ,-say that the test do come back and they seem to shoal that the test
Wells are contaminated, would you recommend to the Board of wealth or Encon that they
take the necessary tests, I will offer my well as a test site. . .
Supervisor Walter- In talking with Mr. Corliss today I assured him that we would have
a continuing dialogue until we got some answerer at which time Z would hope that they
would be ready to come with some solution. The Tam mould do -what it could t0 slue
a bad situation. The utttmate solution would he Town Rater,.,
i the Town Board d members o o row
Councilman Monahan Would it be helpful f aw a an f y �g p
and someone from ENCON sat down and had a round table discussion so we don't pass
thii stuff back and forth. ..
Supervisor Walter- In talking with ENCON today they thought it was premature to have a
meeting because I offered that we would have a meeting. . .they are waiting for information
to come back from the HeaZth Dept.
UNKNOWN- We have done a lot of research on our own and we feel that the:'-Town basically
has done nothing. ..
Supervisor WdZter- You are saying that the Town hasn't done anything-the Town has .done
everthing that they are supposed to do, the testing that you are requiring are done
by other agencies, the oler agencies are saying that we are not concerned with this
potential problem at this time.
Councilman Monahan- As a Town Board member I am concerned with some of these results and
these reports.
Supervisor Walter- 09, Betty I think that you are going to be the representative to ENCON
and I would really welcome you trying to talk with them at this particular point to get
them to go in any direction at all. The story that you have heard, that I have heard
is that t,' -?xrrve A0 they have is priority-this is not a priority-they have major
problems in other areas and they will be dealing with those. They are currently testing
and when they get the results of the tests and are an4khq
d they will then determine
a course of action.
Councilman Monahan- I think what these people would like is when the test results are
back., they would like a roudd'.table meeting with the Town Board, ENCON, the landfill
committee and some representatives of this group.
Supervisor Walter- anyone that deals with government, understands that these things
do not happen over night. . . .
UNKNOWN- We would like to see the Town Board one step ahead and do these things on their
own.
Supervisor Walter- noted that she had contacted an engineer to Zook at the results of
the tests.
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CounciZman Olson- in the mew?-time we can investigate other companies that do
extensive testing, and see who is aceeptable by ENCON.
CcuneiZman Morrell Can't wej on our ownI test for other things?
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UNKNOWN- in priority one anaZy�ii there are over 11aG tests, . .
George Polunci-I understand that we have to foZZow-/RNCON and listen to their
rules and regulations but as a Town�why can't we take the initiative, go by their
standards but go beyond that. . .
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Charlotte Bowman- In regard to Commercial Haulers, what have the employees at the
landfill been instructed to Zook for in these:.,commeric&jl haulers when they come in.
Is there a limitation as to where they can pickup the debris and bring it in?
Supervisor Walter -The Haulers have State requirements, as far as the Town for the
use of the ZandfiZZ., then buy a permit on a yearly basis, there is no Zegislation
that says it must dome from the Town of Queensbury. No one asked chit U�71ijc each load
when it comes ins where it is coming from.
Mrs. Huzar- The Town CZerk 's Office issues the permits?,who's responsibility is it
to enforce that they do have a permit?
Supervisor Wdtter- we rely on the ZandfilZ superintendent, and the f6ZZows at the landfill.
Mrs. Huzar- spoke about a hauler that was late getting the permit from JuZy 31 expiration
renewed in September. . . .
J&nee Broderick- What is the total income for the landfill?
Sueprvisor Walter- noted that she did not have the figures in front of her but
it would be around $150,000. . .we are trying to g6t this off the tax base and
have it run from the fees. . .
James Brodv-ii A_a man at the dump said, they don't question anything that goes into
the dump, I do not ask where it comes fromjwe don't care. . .I have a problem with
the monmtoring
Mrs. Huzar- how can we get a stipulation that wastes from other areas cannot be
brought into our ZandfiZL. . .
Supervisor Walter- that should be brought up at a ZandfiZl meeting. . .
Mr. Labotore-we have made observations that the-.Town- s .probabZy losing thousands
of dollars a year the way the landfill is being operated. . .
UNKNOWN- we do not have any proof. . .
James Brochr iek-I observed the Zandfill Zast rgaturday from -;across the road and we
noticed trucks going in who did not stop, we salt garbage trucks going in and paying
fifty cents going through the turnstiles, I saM one go in, stop at the shed and
a man coming out and'4�dti d him on, he did not get near him to have the ticket stamped.
-We sal a sewage tankers come in, he is supposed to pay one dollar a cubic yard,
he paid fifty cents,does that seem reasonable, I pay fifty cents and I felt slighted
I have three to four bags of garbage. . .
Supervisor Walter- you have made some allegations here this 'evening, you realize that,
they are public. —you are willing to sign a complaint or something on that?
James Brodei-irk-The arguments that we are trying to bring up tonight are all in
support of what we first requested, to get our water tested. . . if there is not
the inspection, Zets say the ZandfiZZ is not inspected for what chemicals are
thrown in there and trucks can dump what they want, that is supporting the problem
of having the chemicals as a possible contaminaht to my water•avZZ. . .we want to get
support enough to make sure our water is safe and if it is note to help moliiVate
you people to start the plans bring us Town water.
Supervisor Walter- we could do that tomorrow but it will cost you. . . .a study would
have to be done by an engineer as to what would be needed. . .!
UNKNOWN- do any of the commercial haulers have keys to get into the Landfill after hours?
Supervisor Walter- They are not supposed to be in after hours but we have had some
exceptions to that, 1
UNKNOWN- CouZdaList be posted of those who are allowed in theme after hours?
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iCouncilman Olson- suggested that if anyone s&o a vehicle in the Will after hours I
that they should report this to the Local police. . .noted that Torrington Const.
does have a key to get in to their property. .
Unknown- asked for a LandfU t breakdown, expenses vs. income. . .
Supprvisor Walter- that is available . .
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Mrs. Huzar-concerning files, I have been trying for two weeks to get some files
from the Town Supervi®or's Office, I have had some help from Don Chase in regard to
his files. . I have written to the Access Officer. . .asked for a copy of their subject
matter list which by law the Town Bard must have. . .read from the letter. . .4efinition
1 • ,". •of Record_Aece�s_L2st .-read the access List_for the Town f Queensbur . . this zs
not a legal subject matter List. I have been in contact with Robert J. Freeman executive
Director of committee on public access to records, as of this date i still hae not
been able to get into the Town fiZes. . .
�- Supervisor Walter- That is not true, first we are dealing with the public officers access
which is Mr. Chase, if you feel that, that List needs to be expanded upon then you realty
ought to discuss it with the Town Clerk, any request for information, its been my policy
for anyone to ask them for a formal, under the freed= of information law, a list of
what they want- you asked for the files of the landfill, it oceured to me that the filing
system that 4 Secretary keep, the way I Like filed, I have a Landfill file where if
I get hit by a truck on my way home the next supervisor can come in a sit down and
open that file and find everthing there is about the Landfill in chmnoZogicat order
and that includes information that is' not public. . .I asked you to be more specific
with your request, you were more specific, you asked for certain things, subsequentZy
changed your mind about, it is my understanding,my Secretary did give you everthing
you requested by taw however other people came in and they wanted to see the landfill
files, listed those who came in. . .if you want to see the Landfill files what we will
_do is pull out o f the files all the information that, t'.: your are not privy to, you
may not take the files. . .noted that there is non public information in the files. . .
Listed items that were requested. . .
Mrs. Huzar- in regard to the Conservation Advisory Council files, I was told by
Barbara Howe that they do not know where the files are. . .
Mrs. Howe- noted that she had Zocated two files for the Conservation Advisory Council
but the box that Mr. Tara= r had vantioned was not found. . .
Mrs. Huzar- I wanted the Town Board to know that there is no subject matter List and
that I have had difficijZty in getting i*to,--the.,fiZes. . .
Supervisor WaZter- I am sorrry� for your difficulty. . .
Mr. Donald Chase- in regard to the'" ubjeet matter List, that list was put on the wall
win it first came out, I was being bothered by people who wanted the Birth, Death
and Marriage Records, insurance companies coming in going through my marriage records
so they could sell insurance. In regard to other records, there is a Lot of work
that has to be done down stairs, as far as I am concerned as Records Access Officer
there will not be a List until we can get the Recreation Dept. the Police Dept. and
ugho ever else may be using the room down stairs, where we can put the records in some
type of an order. ..I have only been here from 1970 there are records back to the
1920 's and 301s. When the Town Board gives me a room for files and records-1 can assure
you we will be in weekends setting up a filing system and then we will know what is
down there. At this point I know what is down there since 1970 on but before that
I cannot help you. In regard to files in my office don't worry about a List. . .
Mrs. Huzar- I have not had a problem with your office.
Supervisor Walter- He does not have personnel records in his office. . .we have negotiati®n;l
Legal matters most of those things are not open to the public.
Councilman Monahan- I would Like to comment on a remark you made Mr. Lcrbatore in the
an
petition, depositing pesticides in the ZandfiZl, I would Like #ou,:to ask ENCON if they
have told AbaZene how to get rid of pesticides that they are no Longer supposed to have
in their care. I was talking with a gentZemen ,& handles pesticides that the directive
come out from Encon that they could not use them any more, he,zaid, I waited months,
toy try and find out how they wanted me to dispose of these. ', Because of the fact that
they did not respond to me I finally took it upon myself to dump them in the Landfill.
(noted that this wgstnot our Landfill) This is part of the problem, the State is
issuing orders but gelling people how they can follow these through.
Councilman Olson- We will move very swiftly. . .noted that thi re will be a Landfill meeting
J Thursday at 4:30 P.M. we will bring your request to the committee meeting. .
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Miss Lucas- Asked if any consideration had been given to a regionaZ, county ZandfiZZ. . .
Supervisor Walter- noted it was a very expensive proprosition. . .noted that in June
the Town Board looAdat a resource recovery system. . .no decision has been made. . .
I believe all of us on the Board feel that this is the way of the future. ..
Councilman Eisenhart- noted that if we did go to such a system the energy generated
from the system could be sold to Niagara Mohawk. . .
UNKNOWN- asked if the Sludge generated fronthe City,Ciba Gegy Sewage Plant wouZd be
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brought to the G.F. Qsby. LandfiZZ?
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Councilman Olson- Queensbury has gone on record with the State and EPA by Resolution,
by letters that we are not going to accept the sludge from the sewer plant. . .
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Supervisor Walter- ore of the things that the City is considering is burning the
sludge at the site. . .
Councilman Eisenhart- noted that oit the 6th of October d good will mission from
the Republic of China wiZZ be putting on a public program at Queensbury School
at 8:00 P.M.
Mr. Ralph VanDusen- asked if the Town took care of Sidewalks in the winter. . .noted
in his area there are several children that walk to school . . .
Discussion was held it was noted that Mr. Naylor would be contacted to see i anything
c,ouZd be done. . . f
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AUDIT OF BILLS
RF.4'nT.T11PTQV Nn ?94 'Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
RESOLVED, that Audit of Billa,;as listed on Abstract No. 82-9B and numbered 1516 through
1708 and totaling $132,087.98 be and hereby is approved.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. OZson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION CALLING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION
RF..SnrtrrrnnT Nn_ .328 Introduced by Mrs. Frances Walter who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart:
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby moves into executive session to discuss
personnel matters.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: None
On motion the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Mr. Donald A. Chase
Town Clerk