04-23-2024 (Queensbury Planning Board 04/23/2024)
QUEENSBURYPLANNINGBOARD MEETING
SECOND REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 23RD12024
INDEX
Site Plan No. 31-2023 David Turner 1.
REQUEST FOR ONE YR. EXT. Tax Map No.290.5-1-26
Site Plan No. S-2020 Thomas Heinzelman 1.
REQUEST FOR ONE YR. EXT Tax Map No.2S9.7-1-19
Site Plan No.20-2024 Furniture House North,LLC 2.
ZBA RECOMMENDATION Tax Map No.296.9-1-10.12
Site Plan No.5-2023 Geraldine Eberlein 4.
Tax Map No.227.17-1-25;227.17-1-24 (septic)
Site Plan No.11-2024 Patten Property Development,LLC 12.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ONLY Tax Map No.2S9.11-1-23
Site Plan No.12-2024 Patten Property Development,LLC 12.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ONLY Tax Map No.2S9.11-1-59.312
Site Plan No.17-2024 Victor&Terry Celadon 13.
Tax Map No.2S9.10-1-15
Site Plan No.16-2024 Paul Zemanek 15.
Tax Map No.2S9.10-1-52.2
Subdivision No.2-2024 Seeley Machine,Inc. 1S.
PRELIMINARY STAGE Tax Map No. 309.1E-1-1
Subdivision No. 3-2024
FINAL STAGE
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REVISIONS. REVISIONS WILL APPEAR ON THE FOLLOWING MONTH'S MINUTES(IF ANY)AND
WILL STATE SUCH APPROVAL OF SAID MINUTES.
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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
SECOND REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 23RD,2024
7.00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
STEPHEN TRAVER,CHAIRMAN
ELLEN MC DEVITT,VICE CHAIRMAN
FRITZ STEFANZICK,SECRETARY
WARREN LONGACKER
BRAD MAGOWAN
BRADY STARK
DAVID DEEB
LAND USE PLANNER-LAURA MOORE
STENOGRAPHER-MARIA GAGLIARDI
MR.TRAVER-Good evening,ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Town of Queensbury Planning Board
meeting for Tuesday,April 23rd, 2024. This is our second meeting for the month of April and our eighth
meeting thus far for 2024. If we have an emergency event of some kind,please make note of the illuminated
emergency exits and take advantage of those. If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, if you
would either turn it off or turn the ringer off so as not to end up having that recorded for our meeting. We
do record the meeting for our minutes, and also to that end, if you wish to have a conversation amongst
yourselves, if you would move to the outer lobby to talk because that again could be picked up by the
microphone and be confusing for the meeting minutes. With that,we do have a couple of Administrative
Items. So we'll begin. The first is Site Plan 31-2023 for David Turner.
ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS
SITE PLAN 31-2023 DAVID TURNER—REQUEST FOR A ONE YEAR EXTENSION
This is a request for a one year extension. Laura?
MRS.MOO RE-So they talked to a landscaping company,and they're notable to start work yet. So they've
asked for a year extension.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Yes, they're plans expire this month. So does anyone have any questions or
concerns regarding that extension request? Okay. We have a draft resolution.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION SP#31-2023 DAVID TURNER
Applicant proposed a renovation of a shoreline area including land retaining walls,planting beds,vegetable
garden area and patio areas.The rear deck is to be enlarged to 488 sq.ft.There will be a 210 sq.ft.permeable
patio area within a section of the retaining wall. The existing 2,734 sq. ft. footprint home will remain
unchanged.
The Planning Board approved Site Plan 31-2023 on April 25,2023.
MOTION TO APPROVE A ONE YEAR EXTENSION FOR SITE PLAN 31-2023 DAVID TURNER.
Introduced by Fritz Stefanzick who moved for its adoption,seconded by Brad Magowan.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of April 2024 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mrs. McDevitt,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Stefanzick,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-Next Administrative Item is Site Plan 8-2020. This is Thomas Heinzelman,request for a
one year extension.
SITE PLAN 8-2020 THOMAS HEINZELMAN—REQUEST FOR A ONE YEAR EXTENSION
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So again they've asked for an extension. They have been able to demo and obtain their
building permits. So they're in the process of actually developing a,I know it's a 2020 project,but they're
getting there.
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MR. TRAVER-Okay, and you've been in communication with them I'm sure.
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-I mean this was originally approved in 2020. So I hope they're not going to make a habit
out of requesting these extensions.
MRS. MOORE-No,they should be well on their way.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Any questions,concerns with that request? All right. We have a draft resolution.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION SP#5-2020 THOMAS HEINZELMAN
Applicant proposed to remove an existing home 740 sq.ft.home and 715 sq.ft.porches for construction of
a new home-1,510 sq. ft. footprint and 2,604 sq. ft. floor area. Site work includes grading, new well and
new septic(septic on adjoining property).
The Planning Board approved Site Plan 5-2020 on May 27, 2020. The Planning Board granted one year
extensions on May S,2021,April 26,2022 and April 25,2023. The applicant is requesting another one year
extension valid until May 27,2025.
MOTION TO APPROVE A ONE YEAR EXTENSION FOR SITE PLAN 8-2020 THOMAS
HEINZELMAN. Introduced by Fritz Stefanzick who moved for its adoption, seconded by Ellen
McDevitt.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of April 2024 by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. McDevitt,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan, Mr. Stefanzick,Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right, and now we move to our regular agenda. The first section is recommendations,
and this is unapproved development. The Furniture House North,LLC,Site Plan 20-2024.
RECOMMENDATION—UNAPPROVED DEVELOPMENT
SITE PLAN NO.20-2024 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. FURNITURE HOUSE NORTH,LLC. AGENT(S):
RUCINSKI HALL ARCHITECTURE. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: CM.
LOCATION: 1066 STATE ROUTE 9. APPLICANT HAS COMPLETED FACADE WORK THAT
INCLUDES CHANGING BROWN PAINT TO WHITE,LOCATION OF WINDOWS,AUTO PART
ART FIXTURES AND UPDATED LIGHTING. THE OUTDOOR PATIO ROOFLINE HAS BEEN
EXTENDED AND THE PATIO AREA HAS BEEN UPDATED WITH CONCRETE. PLANTERS
AND SEASONAL SEATING TO BE ADDED TO THE OUTDOOR PATIO BUT RESTAURANT
SEATING WILL REMAIN THE SAME. THE EXISTING BUILDING WILL REMAIN A STORE
AND RESTAURANT. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040, SITE PLAN FOR FACADE
IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDITIONAL SEATING SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD
REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR ROOF SETBACKS.
PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE: AV 25-2024. WARREN CO.REFERRAL: APRIL 2024. SITE
INFORMATION: TRAVEL CORRIDOR. LOT SIZE: 2.8 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 2969-1-10.12.
SECTION: 179-3-040.
JON ZAPPERÐAN HALL,REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So this applicant has completed some facade work that includes changing the facade from
brown to white,location of windows, affixing some fixtures to the outside of the facade,updating some
lighting,and an outdoor patio with a new roof line. So the variance that they're seeking is for the roofline
setback for the front property line.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Good evening.
MR.ZAPPER-Good evening,for the record,Jon Lapper with Ethan Hall. The short/long story here is that
everyone knows how this property came about with the Suttons, and Mario DiSiena who has The
Furniture House on Saratoga Lake came up here a number of years ago,first with the Furniture Store which
was somewhat of a flea market at that point,not completely,but partially, and completely renovated it,it
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has been in disrepair, and built back and restored the beautiful building and also built back a really
dynamic furniture business. So after that was going for a number of years, what we know as Suttons
Marketplace went for sale as well,and he took it on himself as a project to do a dramatic renovation which
Ethan put in the application has been about 20 months. So he's been working on it for almost two years,
building permits,doing everything right,really exquisite on the inside,the woodwork that he's done. So
this after the fact variance is that it just didn't dawn on him when, these won't show you the detail,but
the portion of the roof that's a little bit extended is not the part of the building that faces the road. So a
layman wouldn't think that this would be a setback because it's 20 feet in from the front of the building
closest to the road, and all he did was when the building comes around the side,the way the Suttons had
it,it kind of roofline went in,and now he has straightened it out,and it just never dawned on him that this
would require an approval and it's a very minor thing on a beautiful building. So Ethan has a photograph
of exactly what this part of the building looks like.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thanks.
MR.HALL-For the record,Ethan Hall,principle with Rucinski Hall Architecture. Laura,do you have the
new photos that I had sent,the ones that have the white on the background? As you can see,in the photo
that she has up now,the eaves line,the fascia line goes up,now if you go one more around those where it's
looking at the front,I'm sorry,where it's looking at the side. That one right there. So you can see where
the existing fascia line is still there. He just closed the front eaves line out, and when he did that, it
extended that piece of the roof. I'll go up and point that out. It's this section right here that was added,
and in plan view the 75 foot setback that was about midway through the front piece.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. That triggers the variance.
MR. HALL-And so,yes,this triggers the variance. The 75 feet setback is from Route 9 and it falls about
midway through here,and Mario,you know,he had done all the front part and we had gotten the building
permits to do all the interior work and to do the exterior facade windows,to move those,put new overhead
doors and when he was doing this part, doing the repair of this,these posts are where the corners of the
existing building were. They sit along the existing foundation and this is the existing roof. He just finished
this piece around the front and when he did that,that triggered the variance.
MR.TRAVER-Right. Okay. Thank you for that explanation. Questions,comments from members of the
Planning Board? They're looking for a variance for this setback.
MR. STEFANZIK-Is that going to be a new entrance or a secondary entrance?
MR.HALL-No,that's going to be the outdoor serving space. It connects directly to the kitchen. So that's
going to be the outdoor serving space.
MR. STEFANZIK-So it's not for patrons to go in and out?
MR. HALL-No,no,just for staff. The main entry is the entry there. There is an emergency exit that's on
the corner. These doors that are in the front,they took,the three windows that are on the side used to be
across the front. They just moved them over to the side and they put the two overhead doors in where
those three windows were, and there is a door that goes out,it's an emergency exit right now,that's shut
off. It's not a required exit.
MR. STEFANZIK-Gotcha.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Any other questions,comments from members of the Board? This is a request from
the ZBA for us to make a recommendation on the variance request. Does anyone have any issues?
Typically it comes back to us as approved,but does anyone have any concerns? I'm not hearing any,so we
have a draft resolution.
RECOMMENDATION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: AV#25-2024 FURNITURE HOUSE
The applicant has submitted an application for the following:Applicant has completed facade work that
includes changing brown paint to white,location of windows,auto part art fixtures and updated lighting.
The outdoor patio roofline has been extended and the patio area has been updated with concrete.Planters
and seasonal seating to be added to the outdoor patio but restaurant seating will remain the same. The
existing building will remain a store and restaurant. Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040, site plan for facade
improvements and additional seating shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Variance:
Relief is sought for roof setbacks. Planning Board shall provide a recommendation to the Zoning Board of
Appeals.
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance,per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning Board to
provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that require both Zoning
Board of Appeals&Planning Board approval;
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The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application,the relief request in the variance
application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and surrounding
community,and found that:
MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE 25-2024 FURNITURE HOUSE NORTH,
LLC.,Introduced by Frtiz Stefanzick who moved for its adoption,and
a) The Planning Board,based on a limited review,has not identified any significant adverse impacts
that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal.
Motion seconded by Ellen McDevitt. Duly adopted this 23ra day of April 2024 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Stefanzick, Mr. Deeb,Mrs. McDevitt,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You're off to the ZBA.
MR.HALL-Thank you very much.
MR. ZAPPER-Thank you.
MR.TRAVER-The next section of our agenda is Old Business and the first item is Geraldine Eberlein. This
is Site Plan 5-2023.
OLD BUSINESS:
SITE PLAN NO.5-2023 SEQR TYPE: TYPE 11. GERALDINE EBERLEIN. AGENT(S): STUDIO
A. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: WR. LOCATION: 12 SEELYE ROAD
NORTH. (REVISED) APPLICANT PROPOSES DEMOLITION OF AN EXISTING HOME AND
GUEST COTTAGE TO CONSTRUCT A NEW HOME WITH A FOOTPRINT OF 2,411 SQ.FT.,AN
OUTDOOR KITCHEN OF 234 SQ. FT. AND A NEW FLOOR AREA OF 3,343 SQ. FT. THE
PROJECT INCLUDES ASSOCIATED SITE WORK FOR NEW PERMEABLE DRIVEWAY,
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND SHORELINE LANDSCAPING. THE PROJECT
INCLUDES INSTALLATION OF A NEW SEPTIC SYSTEM ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040,179-6-065,179-6-050,SITE PLAN FOR NEW FLOOR AREA
IN A CEA AND HARD SURFACING WITHIN 50 FT. OF THE SHORELINE SHALL BE SUBJECT
TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR
SETBACKS,FLOOR AREA AND PERMEABILITY. THE PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE
A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE: AV 70-
2007,AV 4-2023. WARREN CO.REFERRAL: FEBRUARY 2023. SITE INFORMATION: CEA,
APA,LGPC. LOT SIZE: 0.31 ACRE. TAX MAP NO.227.17-1-25,227-17-1-24(SEPTIC). SECTION:
179-3-040,179-6-065,179-6-050.
JON ZAPPER&MATT HUNTINGTON,REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS.MOORE-So this application is for a newhome of 2,334 square feet with new floor area of 3,121 square
feet. The application received variances the other evening from the Zoning Board in regards to front
setback,shoreline setback,permeability and floor area.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. Welcome back.
MR. ZAPPER-Good evening. For the record, again,Jon Lapper with Matt Huntington from Studio A. So
we had a full discussion about this at the last meeting with the Planning Board and when we went to the
Zoning Board the next night,even though members of this Board were a little concerned about the floor
area ratio variance,because it's such a small lot,13,000 square feet,two percent of that is 260 square feet.
So the Zoning Board viewed it as pretty minor compared to everything that the applicant is doing to move
the septic 200 feet back and so they liked it. So we're here now,the last stop after all of the septic variance
and Zoning Board and now Site Plan Review.
MR. TRAVER-Yes,thank you. Okay. So,and you received all the variances that you were asking. As far
as Site Plan,the main concern that I have, and obviously we'll hear from other members of the Board,but
my concern, again,is the proximity of some of the features to the lake,the fire pit up in the front. I mean
that seems as though that's within even the shoreline buffer area. How far is that from the water?
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MR. ZAPPER-So we removed that, all that paving,before we went to the Zoning Board. So that would
just be a portable fire pit somebody might put in.
MR. TRAVER-So it's not a permanent feature.
MR. ZAPPER-No. It was when we were here before you, the time before, and you expressed, could you
make it a little bit less impermeable. So that's.
MR. TRAVER-So those steps are gone as well?
MR. HUNTINGTON-The steps we haven't removed at this point. I mean it's just access to get down
there. They're stone steps. I mean they're not really a runoff generator.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Are they within 35 feet of the lake?
MR. HUNTINGTON-Yes,but I would have to check, I don't think they qualify as a structure.,the stairs
I don't believe so.
MRS. MOORE-No.
MR. TRAVER-Okay,but there's supposed to be plantings there,not stone.
MR.HUNTINGTON-We have,I mean if you look at our,Sheet L4.0 we actually put together a little table
about meeting Queensbury's buffering requirements and you'll see on that table that we do, in fact,meet
the Town Code's requirements for plantings.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. ZAPPER-Do you have that,Laura?
MR.HUNTINGTON-There it is.
MR. ZAPPER-It's pretty extensively landscaped around the lake.
MR. TRAVER-Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MRS.MC DEVITT-There's three large trees on the east side that are going to be removed. Why? There's
a maple and two apple trees.
MR.HUNTINGTON-Off the top of my head,I'm not sure the condition of those trees. It may be a situation
that,this project was started about a year or so ago,but they're right on the property line, and they may. I
believe they're in diseased and dying condition. I would have to double check because again it's been a
while since we've been out there.
AUDIENCE MEMBER-They're going to fall on the house is what's going to happen. Honestly,go check it
out.
MRS. MC DEVITT-I guess I'd like to know that they really are diseased, because I think there's a lot of
cutting down trees in fear of limbs and that sort of thing that maybe at times confound it.
MR.HUNTINGTON-They are being replaced with two red maples.
MR. TRAVER-The same number in the same location?
MR.HUNTINGTON-Give or take a few feet but,yes,in the same location.
MRS. MC DEVITT-There's three trees, and you said two maples.
MR. HUNTINGTON-Okay. I see. The third tree is not quite on the property line. Yes,unfortunately I
don't have the condition of those trees currently.
MR. ZAPPER-Both of the applicants are here.
MR.HUNTINGTON-Yes,certainly,they can reference.
GERALDINE EBERLEIN
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MS. EBERLEIN-Gerry Eberlein. Yes,both of the trees are pretty, they're in rough shape. They're right
between the properties, could fall, and then there's a third one in front of the cottage that's also in rough
shape that needs to be removed. I believe Matt said we have replaced them with three or four maples I
believe.
MRS. MC DEVITT-It should be one for one.
MS. EBERLEIN-Yes, I think that's what we had in there because I did this like a year or so ago, but
whatever we needed to replace them with is what we're going to comply to do.
MRS. MC DEVITT-Because you just said two red maples.
MR. HUNTINGTON-Well there are two red maples, but there's also a Northern White Cedar. There's
four of those that are going to be replaced,and an additional Dogwood. So again the landscaping plan here
is pretty extensive and I would say substantially more than what's out there now.
MR. TRAVER-So are those replacement trees,it sounds like they may not be fully reflected on the plan.
MR. ZAPPER-No,they are.
MR.HUNTINGTON-They're on the plan,on the,you can see the two in the lower right,those are two red
maples there, and then on the other property line we have,you know, four, or five, six more. So not red
maples, but those are all trees. Those are all trees. There's the Northern White Cedar there and the
Dogwood as well.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Anything else on trees?
MRS. MC DEVITT-No. It still looks like the fire pit's there,but that's going to be removed.
MR.HUNTINGTON-Yes,that is removed. We re-submitted the layout sheet with it. The planting plan
just wasn't fully updated with the fire pit. You can see it's kind of faded out.
MR. TRAVER-Other questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. STEFANZIK-Yes,I have a couple. So,like I said last week,I think the house is beautiful. I'd love to
have a house on that property. I do have a couple of comments and concerns,you know, off of the site
plan. When you look at Item E,does the house fit in harmony with the rest of the neighborhood,and your
response is it does because it's a single family house. Obviously I agree with that,but when I look at Seelye
Road and you guys are at the beginning of Seelye Road, you take Seelye Road all the way to the end to
Castaway's,I would argue that it's not. I've seen over the years a lot of those camps,a lot of those houses,
have been knocked down and big, beautiful houses,just like the house you're looking to build here, the
difference is they have the land to build these big houses and you don't. A lot of these houses,they have
privacy to their neighbors,they have the screening,they have the buffer, and when you look at Item L on
the site plan, where it requires, and I'll just paraphrase, landscaping, screening shall effectively provide
visual and/or noise buffer between the applicants and adjoining lands. I would argue that you don't have
that with your neighbor to the west. There's no buffer,and,you know,for me,that impact,that's a burden
to the neighbor. They're going to see lighting. They're going to see the people in the house,noise and all
of that stuff.
MR. ZAPPER-So let me explain that, Fritz. The neighbor to the west sent a letter to the Zoning Board,
because yours wasn't a public hearing, saying that they support the project, and what happened here is
that they asked Gerry to move the house to the, I'm calling it the south, but it's actually to the north,
because they wanted to have a better view than what they have now. So the house was moved in that
direction. So they don't care about what's right next to them. They have a view of the lake from their
deck that they didn't used to have. So that was really to address that,and in terms of the size of the house,
I had mentioned that the septic system is on the neighbor's property 200 feet from the lake, and that,
otherwise that would take up a lot of land and there would have been a lot of setbacks, but that really
allowed,because the septic isn't on this lot.
MR. STEFANZIK-And I think that's another difference. When you look at the harmony and in character
with the rest of the houses on Seelye,they all have their own septic. This one doesn't. So my only comment
here is that it is out of character with Seelye Road,I believe,and also subjectively maybe from an aesthetic
standpoint. The house looks beautiful. You've got the landscape around it,but,you know,when you're
looking from the lake or the road,you're going to see two stacked houses right on top of each other, and,
Mr.Lapper,you had mentioned last week about two or three houses to the,I believe it's the south,that are
there.
MR. ZAPPER-Two to the south.
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MR. STEFANZIK-And,you know,I went back to the property to look at this house again, and I did look
at those houses, and,you know,they're going to be looking to upgrade those houses in the future,that's,I
think,on Water's Edge Road,and,you know,my concern here is the precedent being set. They're going to
be able to come and say,we can build a house as big as we want. We can get the variances because they
were given in this case, and then my longer term concern is if that slice of land,between Waters Edge and
north Seelye, becomes very cluttered, it's going to look like Echo Bay. That's my concern. I would
normally back off on this,but I really think that there's room to sharpen the pencil and still have a beautiful
house. Those are my comments.
MRS.MC DEVITT-I would agree. That's well said,and the Echo Bay thing is real and we know how much
the water is a problem in Echo Bay,given invasive species. The other question I had is,can you explain to
me again this curtain drain,where that water actually goes,especially after it rains three inches in 24 hours.
MR.HUNTINGTON-The curtain drain is designed to actually intercept groundwater as in water coming
up not necessarily infiltrating into the soil. So what happens is that curtain drain pulls it from the sides
and around it,granted there's some ancillary rainfall or infiltration on top of it,but the main design intent
is for the water that is below the surface. So if you picture almost a rectangle in the ground that's filled
with crushed stone with a pipe in the bottom that's drawing water, groundwater, from all sides, and it's
conveying it along the property line towards the lake,but it will outlet in the plant bed that's on the north
side of the property. So it's groundwater out letting into a plant bed at this point.
MRS. MC DEVITT-And if it overflows the plant bed,where does it go?
MR. ZAPPER-Well, it would go to the lake, but it goes through the plant bed which helps filter it, but
beyond that,the whole purpose was,even though we had the raised septic system which the Town Board
approved, this increases the separation distance between groundwater and the septic system because it
serves to lower the groundwater. So it's good for the neighborhood. It's good for the septic system to get
the groundwater out of there. That was the purpose in putting it off with the septic variance, and the
Town Engineer did approve that.
MR. HUNTINGTON-And this is actually a prescriptive practice for high groundwater situations or on-
site wastewater out of the Department of Health and Department of Environmental Conservation. It does
help lower the groundwater table. Again, it's not a contaminant source that you're taking, it's not like
you're taking stormwater and pumping it, or piping it directly into the lake. The idea is it's already
subsurface water. I mean it's also,in fact,regulated in a similar manner to surface water on Lake George.
There's certain separation distances you need to be away from it with septic, stormwater, etc. It's
protected in a similar manner. So we're taking a similar protective water,conveying it to help lower it in
the area of the septic, which, as Jon said,increases the separation. There's less likelihood of any bacteria
from the septic getting into this,into the groundwater table itself,in that it's conveying it to the lake.
MR. TRAVER-We do have a public hearing on this application as well. Is there anyone in the audience
that wants to address the Planning Board on Site Plan 5-2023? I'm not seeing any. Laura,are there written
comments?
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN
MRS.MOO RE-There are written comments. This is addressed to Mr.Traver. "The above referenced Site
Plan/Freshwater Wetlands application was personally reviewed in my capacity as a licensed professional
engineer and the Lake George Waterkeeper. It is recognized that the proposed project has received
variances from the Town Board of Health for the septic system installed on wetland soils and from the
Town Zoning Board of Appeals for shoreline setback,permeability and FAR. Despite claims of the benefits
to Lake George from the project,the Lake George Waterkeeper cannot support these claims and feels the
proposed project proposes too much development that will impact the lake with the attempted mitigation
measures. The Waterkeeper offers the following comments for this project located in the Critical
Environmental Area surrounding Lake George during your deliberations for the above referenced site plan
review application. The proposed curtain drain will create a direct discharge where one does not
exist to Lake George increasing nutrient loading. The application proposes the installation of a curtain
drain to attempt to lower extremely high groundwater,where new septic systems are proposed. Although
this has been approved by the Town Engineer,this will result in water quality impacts to Lake George for
the following reasons. — The underdrain is proposed in an area where the subwatershed acts like a
wetland and has hydric\wetlands soils present. The installation of the underdrain will create a conduit
for the direct conveyance of groundwater from silty/clayey soils that absorb nutrients and provide a direct
discharge to Lake George. This is substantiated with the extensive subsurface investigation of this area
for the Rockhurst Treatment System. — The applicant's agent stated at the Zoning Board of Appeals
meeting that the underdrain would"flow through a filter"before discharge to the lake. There is no filter
provided on the plans and the gravel provided for conveyance that will be submerged will not provide any
filter treatment. —The underdrain will increase the potential of effluent discharge with high nutrients to
Lake George. It should be noted that the proposed enhanced treatment unit fails to provide any increased
phosphorus treatment. —The claims of the benefits to Lake George from the relocated septic system would
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not outweigh benefits to Lake George from holding tanks where an underdrain would not need to be
installed." Please note,the Board of Health has already approved the septic system. "It is the opinion of
the Waterkeeper the installation of this underdrain will result in increased nutrient loading and algae
growth on the proposed beach. The Planning Board should ask the Town Engineer's opinion whether this
practice will negatively impact Lake George. The proposed excavation of the shoreline for a beach
should be prohibited and will result in negative impacts to Lake George. The applicant proposes to
excavate 250/o of the natural shoreline and import fill to create a beach. This practice contradicts the intent
of the Town Code to protect the natural resources of the Town and Lake George. The impact from this
activity is of greater concern in these areas of the lake that are experiencing Harmful Algae Blooms. The
proposed hardscape exterior living space (kitchen and gathering) encroaching into the 50-foot
shoreline protective zone should be eliminated. With the granting of the FAR variance,this additional
living space(second kitchen)and hardscape is not necessary,and the increased hardscape in the shoreline
protective zone will impact Lake George. The Planning Board should request the applicant to redesign
the exterior gathering space to reduce the hardscape in the shoreline protective zone. The Planning Board
should require a compliant shoreline buffer planting plan, especially in consideration of the
numerous variances and activities including the underdrain and excavation of the shoreline. The
Lake George Waterkeeper recommends that the Town of Queensbury Planning Board consider the
negative impacts from the underdrain,excavation of the shoreline and excessive hardscape and require the
applicant to reduce the impacts to Lake George. The Lake George Waterkeeper looks forward to working
with the Town of Queensbury Planning Board to defend the natural resources of Lake George and its
watershed. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Christopher Navitsky, PE Lake George
Waterkeeper" I just want to remind the Board,we do not regulate groundwater. That's not part of what
we do. This is addressed to myself. This is David Ries. "We live next door to the Eberlein property at S
Seelye Rd. We are in support of the Eberlein project and have no issues with the building project. If the
Board has any questions, I would be happy to answer. Thank you! David Ries" This is from David Ries,
next door neighbor. This is in regard to actually the septic variance,and it's from Bob and Trish End. "We
are writing in strong opposition to the proposed variances requested in connection with the construction
project application by Geraldine Eberlein." And they're at S Waters Edge.
MR. TRAVER-I'm sorry,where do they live?
MRS. MOORE-They live at S Water's Edge.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So that's proximity to the site,obviously.
MRS. MOORE-Right. So then a similar letter was written on April5`h,2023 by the same individual.
MR. TRAVER-The same concern?
MRS.MOO RE-The same concern. And then a secondary letter. This was last year,April 51h of 2023,prior
to the Board of Health septic variance. So they were against the Eberlein project because of the septic
variance. And that was Steven LeFleche. And it doesn't tell me what their address is.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Is that all of the written comments?
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then we'll close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-Other questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. ZAPPER-We can respond to that.
MR. TRAVER-Sure.
MR. ZAPPER-So all of those comments, including Chris's, were brought to the Town Board's attention
because that's where we proposed the curtain drain and that went to the Town Engineer. The Town
Board approved the septic variance,including the curtain drain, and so that's why that was all there and
the neighbor's objections were before this was proposed and before it was approved by the Town Board.
So those comments and Chris's comments speak to this project as well, but the majority of all that was
about the septic and that's,Chris can have an opinion,but the septic is 200 feet from the lake,rather than
right where it is now, and the Town Engineer, and Laura has that,looked at it at this time and approved
it. So I don't think that's really an issue for Site Plan Review at this point because that was part of the
septic variance. The neighbors have the exact same,the Ends have the same raised mound system adjacent
to this property and no one had any complaints about the house variances. It was all about the septic and
that was settled and most of this is from a year ago, and that was settled by the Town Board requiring a
whole bunch of upgrades to the septic system before we got the variance. Which is why it took us a year
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to get here,but I don't hear anybody, any of the neighbors complaining about the house design,the house
location, and the only one that really is affected are the Ries and this increases their view and they're in
support of it,but on balance we're talking about,even though they are three variances,the percentages are
so small, two percent, when you're talking about such a small parcel, we're talking about a few hundred
square feet. It's just not a big deal compared to everything that's happening here to benefit the lake.
There's an extensive landscaping plan and the septic system is so faraway. So I think it just has to be kept
in perspective.
MR. TRAVER-Laura,question. What is the date of Chris Navitsky's letter?
MRS. MOORE-That is today.
MR. TRAVER-Today?
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Other questions,comments from members of the Board?
MRS. MC DEVITT-I mean I also have concern about the beach. I'm not really sure why that is necessary,
and the size of the outdoor kitchen and that sort of thing also seems excessive for the land, and I really do,
it resonates, Fritz,you,I think,articulated it very well,in terms of E.,in harmony with what it should be.
I know there's no objection from the neighbors however, I think you're looking at it as people from the
shoreline and as, or from the lake and also others who will want to do the same thing on very,very small
pieces of land. I think it will turn into Echo Bay and I think that would be really sad.
MR. ZAPPER-So the Zoning Board did approve the 200 square feet for the outdoor kitchen,which is just
a lovely amenity that everybody on the lake wants,and I think you just have to put it in perspective,that's
a couple of hundred square feet,and we think,you know,compared to what's there now,that old cottage,
this will look lovely, and that is on permeable pavers, the outdoor kitchen as well. The Zoning Board's
determination was that they had,the resolution was that the applicant had gone really far to make a lot of
improvements here and that's why the variances were granted.
MR. DEEB-Laura,there's nothing in the Code about trees removed having to be replaced.
MRS. MOORE-One for one? No,that's not.
MR. DEEB-I just want to make sure we understand that. Okay, and I think the other thing we've got to
be careful of is I think Ries is the neighbor that,were you referring to,Fritz, about the,infringing on their
sight?
MR. TRAVER-Their view of the lake.
MR. STEFANZIK-No,my comment was about the buffer,you have no buffer. Like the rest of the other
houses that have been built that have the right amount of property, they have buffer. Clearly in the site
plan it asks for a buffer to provide privacy,to protect from noise,from light,all of that stuff. So we have a
current neighbor that has no problem, but in the future, that may not be the case, and to me that's
something that adds burden to any other property owners. It could impact land value, and once again it
sets a precedent for other houses on Warner Bay. Warner Bay is a beautiful bay. It's one of the last bays
that haven't been really overly developed, and,you know,this could set a precedent for having clusters of
homes.
MR.ZAPPER-So there is a substantial buffer,but the whole buffer is along the lake. That was on purpose.
Sothis is more than 50 feet from the lake. It's 54 feet. So the goal here was to maximize the distance from
the lake to put all the planting along the lake,not in the back.
MR. DEEB-My point here, what I'm getting to, I think we have to be careful that we don't project our
feelings on what the neighbors want. I think we have to understand,let's hear it from the neighbors and
not say that we think the neighbors are going to do this. We have to be careful on what we project for
other people. We can't speak for other people. I think that's important, as a Board,that we realize this
and that's all.
MR. TRAVER-Warren,do you have any concerns with stormwater or the curtain drain? I know that's in
an area of your expertise.
MR. LONGACKER-No,not for this one. Coming up in a later application I do have a question,but this,
just like the applicant said, this is for groundwater. We do the same thing,you know, I work for DEC.
We have done the same thing many times in some campgrounds. We put a curtain drain in just to lower
the groundwater so we can put in a system in campgrounds. Very common practice.
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MR. TRAVER-Other questions,comments?
MR. LONGACKER-And I just want to say,too,I agree with the applicant here. I mean it's a small lot. I
said this last week,too. The percentage increase they're asking for,for the area proposed for floor area is
I.Solo,and the permeability is 1.40/o. I do think,I agree,I think it's small for the size of the small lot. It's not
like they're paving the entire lot where you'd be asking for like S, 9%. It's a small percentage that they're
requesting here. They've reduced the size of the house. They've reduced permeable pavers. They've
reduced the paved area outside the house. I think it's a good balance.
MR. STEFANZIK-Actually it's 1.S points of a percent.
MR. LONGACKER-1.S%.
MR.STEFANZIK-Points of a percent,when you look at the square footage over the allowable,it's S%,230
something square feet is S%.
MR. TRAVER-You're talking about the size of the lot.
MR. STEFANZIK-So 1.S versus over S%. I just wanted to clarify that.
MRS. MOORE-I can add that in the Code there is a section in reference when someone cuts a certain
percentage of, or a certain foot along the shoreline that there's a permission for making sure you have an
open area along your shoreline, and whether that's a beach or just an open cut,that's a,it's written in the
Code to allow that.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Well, let's poll the Board on how people feel moving forward on approving this
application. Warren?
MR. LONGACKER-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-David?
MR. DEEB-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Fritz?
MR. STEFANZIK-I think there's room to improve. So I'm a no right now.
MR. TRAVER-So you're a no. Ellen?
MRS. MC DEVITT-No.
MR. STARK-I'm ayes.
MR. MAGOWAN-I'm going to go with a yes..
MR. TRAVER-All right. Well let's hear the resolution.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#5-2023 GERALDINE EBERLEIN
(Revised)Applicant proposes demolition of an existing home and guest cottage to construct a new home
with a footprint of 2,411 sq. ft., an outdoor kitchen of 234 sq. ft. and a new floor area of 3,343 sq. ft. The
project includes associated site work for newpermeable driveway,stormwater management,and shoreline
landscaping. The project includes installation of a new septic system on the adjoining property. Pursuant
to Chapter 179-3-040,179-6-065,179-6-050,site plan for new floor area in a CEA and hard surfacing within
50 ft.of the shoreline shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board made a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals on 4/16/2024-1 the ZBA
approved the variance requests on 4/17/2024-1
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 4/23/2024 and continued the
public hearing to 4/23/2024 when it was closed,
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The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 4/23/2024;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 5-2023 GERALDINE EBERLEIN;Introduced by Fritz Stefanzick
who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted:h. signage,n traffic,o. commercial alterations/construction details,r.
construction/demolition disposal and s. snow removal;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one year expiration date of 4/23/2025-1
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
1) All final plans be updated per the last drawing that was submitted April 5`h,2024,the layout
plan. All remaining plan sets need to be revised to reflect that submission,which is to also
include removal of the fire pit hardscape.
Motion seconded by David Deeb. Duly adopted this 23rd day of April 2024 by the following vote:
MRS. MOORE-I'm going to suggest that you add a condition that all final plans be updated per the last
drawing that was submitted, which was 4/5 of 2024, which was simply the layout plan. So all the
remaining plan sets need to be revised to reflect that submission.
MR. TRAVER-And the fire pit's removed,right?
MRS. MOORE-So that will be reflected in that,like you asked about the landscaping plan. That will be
reflected in the landscaping plan.
MR. STEFANZIK-Which is to also include removal of the fire pit.
MRS. MOORE-Removal of the fire pit hardscape.
MR. STEFANZIK-Removal of the fire pit and hardscape.
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MRS. MOORE-We want to make sure when our new Code Compliance Officer reads it he understands
there's still a fire pit.
AYES: Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Deeb,Longacker
NOES: Mr. Stefanzick,Mrs. McDevitt,Mr. Traver
MR. TRAVER-You're all set.
MR. ZAPPER-Thanks,everyone.
MR.HUNTINGTON-Thank you.
MR.TRAVER-The next item on the agenda,Patten Property Development,essentially the next two items,
has already been tabled by this Board to July 16 of this year. However, we anticipate changes to their
application.
SITE PLAN NO. 11-2024 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. PATTEN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, LLC.
AGENT(S): RUCINSKI HALL ARCHITECTURE. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT.
ZONING: WR. LOCATION: 96 HALL ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A
NEW 2,537 SQ. FT. FOOTPRINT HOME WITH A 47 SQ. FT. PORCH/DECK AREA AND A 5,165
SQ. FT. FLOOR AREA. THE EXISTING HOME HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED. THE PROJECT
INCLUDES A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE LOT SIZE FROM
12,690 SQ.FT.TO 18,200 SQ.FT. THE ADJUSTMENT ALLOWS FOR DIRECT ACCESS TO HALL
ROAD. SITE WORK INCLUDES NEW SEPTIC SYSTEM, WELL, LANDSCAPING,
STORMWATER AND OTHER ASSOCIATED SITE DISTURBANCE. THE PROJECT WILL ALSO
INCLUDE ANEW DOCK ON GLEN LAKE. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 &z 179-6-050,
SITE PLAN FOR NEW FLOOR AREA AND HARD SURFACING WITHIN 50 FT. OF THE
SHORELINE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR SETBACKS, PERMEABILITY, HEIGHT, FLOOR AREA,
ROAD FRONTAGE AND NUMBER OF GARAGES. PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A
RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE: AV 9-
2010,SP 14-2010,AV 15-2024. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. SITE INFORMATION: CEA,
GLEN LAKE. LOT SIZE: 0.3 ACRE. TAX MAP NO. 289.11-1-23. SECTION: 179-3-040,179-6-
050,179-6-065.
MR. TRAVER-However,I will open the public hearing and leave it open until the applicant is heard again
in July.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MR. TRAVER-Continuing under Old Business, the next application is Victor& Terry Celadon. This is
Site Plan 17-2024. Laura?
MRS. MOO RE-I'm sorry. Did you open the public hearings for both of those applications?
MR. TRAVER-Well, I will,yes, I'm pretty sure that I did,but I will reaffirm that again. Patten Property
Development, Site Plan 11-2024 and Site Plan 12-2024. The public hearing is open and will remain open
until the application is re-heard on July 16`h
MRS. MOORE-Thank you.
SITE PLAN NO. 12-2024 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. PATTEN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, LLC
AGENT(S): RUCINSKI HALL ARCHITECTURE. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT.
ZONING: WR. LOCATION: BARBER ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES A HOME WITH A
FOOTPRINT OF 641 SQ.FT.,299 SQ.FT.PORCH/DECK AREA AND A 1,351 SQ.FT.FLOOR AREA.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT,DECREASING THE SIZE FROM 0.47 ACRE
TO 0.35 ACRE. SITE WORK INCLUDES NEW SEPTIC, WELL, LANDSCAPING,
STORMWATER AND OTHER ASSOCIATED SITE DISTURBANCE. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER
179-6-060, SITE PLAN FOR PROJECT WITHIN 50 FT. OF 15% SLOPES SHALL BE SUBJECT TO
PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR
PERMEABILITY, LOT SIZE, SETBACKS. PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A
RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE: AV 14-
2024. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. SITE INFORMATION: CEA, GLEN LAKE, SLOPES.
LOT SIZE: 0.47 ACRE. TAX MAP NO.289.11-1-59.312. SECTION: 179-3-040,179-6-065.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
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SITE PLAN NO. 17-2024 SEQR TYPE: TYPE IL VICTOR &z TERRY CELADON. AGENT(S):
RUCINSKI HALL ARCHITECTURE. OWNER(S): VICTOR CELADON. ZONING: WR.
LOCATION: 29 JAY ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES DEMOLITION OF AN EXISTING HOME
TO CONSTRUCT A NEW 2,700 SQ. FT. FOOTPRINT HOME WITH A FLOOR AREA OF 3,889
SQ. FT. THE PROJECT WILL MAINTAIN CURRENT WELL POINT, 131 SQ. FT. SHED AND
SHORELINE BUFFER. SITE WORK INCLUDES A NEW SEPTIC SYSTEM AND A TOTAL
DISTURBANCE AREA OF 12,198 SQ.FT. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040&z 179-6-050.SITE
PLAN FOR NEW FLOOR AREA IN A CEA AND HARD SURFACING WITHIN 50 FT. OF THE
SHORELINE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL CROSS
REFERENCE: AV 20-2024. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. SITE INFORMATION: CEA,
GLEN LAKE. LOT SIZE: 0.76 ACRES. TAX MAP NO.289.10-1-15. SECTION: 179-3-040.179-6-
050,179-6-065.
ETHAN HALL, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Good evening.
MRS. MOORE-Do you want me to read through information?
MR. TRAVER-Sure.
MRS. MOORE-All right. So this project is a demolition of the existing home to construct a new home of
2,700 square feet footprint with a floor area of 3,SS9 square feet. The current well point remains and the
131 square foot shed remains as well as the existing shoreline buffer. The applicant did receive the
variances the other evening.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you.
MR. HALL-Good evening. For the record,Ethan Hall,principle with Rucinski Hall Architecture. With
me tonight are Victor&Terry Celadon,the owners of the property. As we were here last week,went over
it briefly. We did receive the area variances that we were looking for from the Zoning Board of Appeals.
Just to kind of summarize the project, again, it is an existing seasonal residence that's been in Victor's
family since 1946. The foundation of the existing building is in pretty bad disrepair. So it's their intent
to take the existing house down, rebuild on the same footprint and make it a year round residence that
they can live in year round and enjoy it for the foreseeable future. We did get a comment letter from
LaBella. I've been through it. There's nothing in there that's major. The biggest thing is the maintenance
agreement for the stormwater management, which we can certainly pull together. There was, the
applicant shall provide existing and proposed contours. We had requested a variance for that,from the
neighbor for that,and in lieu of that,we are going to have the building pinned by the surveyors,so that we
know exactly where it's supposed to be,so that those setbacks are met for our variance that we have.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR.LONGACKER-This one right here,did you guys do any perc tests? Because this isn't like the previous
applicant with the,to lower the groundwater. This is more for infiltration,for your stone filter strip and
your typical eaves trench. Do you guys have perc tests or any sort of soil information,by any chance for
that?
MR.HALL-They were all done pretty much further back up the hill. We really didn't do them down there.
We know that we're going to dig about four or five feet and hit groundwater,but it is all glacial till,that
whole front point,basically everything around Glen Lake is glacial till.
MR. LONGACKER-I've done these before on boat launches. I'm not a huge fan of them,only because of
the long edge of a driveway. If you drive in,your tires might get stuck in them. So just be careful driving
in there, something like that,your tires will drive in them, and they get stuck in the stone sometimes and
kind of damage.
MR.HALL-On the trenches on the side? Yes, and there's really,we've only really done that really on that
downhill slope so that we can pick up everything that's coming off the asphalt,get it in the ground and not
let it run towards Glen Lake.
MR. LONGACKER-And I saw your calculation there,too,on the plan. I'm just curious,what year storm
are you using for that? The calculation for the volume.
MR.HALL-I used a gallon and a half per square foot.
MR. LONGACKER-Per square foot. Okay. Gotcha.
MR.HALL-New impervious surface.
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MR. TRAVER-Other questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. STEFANZIK-So last week I had a couple of comments for you. ,questions regarding removal of trees
for the septic.
MR. HALL-So they're on the Hutchins Engineering drawings. I went back and looked at those. There
are five trees that are noted and they're not in the area where the actual septic system is going. So there
shouldn't be anything that needs to be cut down,other than brush and small stuff that is right there in that
area. None of the large trees should have to come out to do that.
MR. STEFANZIK-Are these all trees that are going to be left?
MR.HALL-You got it. Around the point? Yes, and as you can see from the pictures that are on Drawing
C-2,from the lake there are a lot of trees that are around that area, and it's not our intention to take any of
those out. They're all going to stay there.
MR. STEFANZIK-And also, I mean,the house is right next to the water. You're going to be doing some
excavation. So being so close to the water, really protecting that lake, minimizing the time that you're
there,you dig,get out and fill it in.
MR. HALL-Absolutely. They're probably,just due to the proximity of it,they're probably going to have
to excavate,put it in a truck,and take it off site and bring fill back in.
MR. STEFANZIK-What are you going to have around,just regular?
MR.HALL-There'll be silt fence that's on the inside of the tree line,all the way around the peninsula.
MR. STEFANZIK-And there's enough room for that?
MR. HALL-Yes. We've got basically 20 feet all the way around the building to the shoreline and the tree
line,obviously,is inside that. So we'll have enough room to do that.
MR. STEFANZIK-Okay. Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-There is a public hearing on this application as well. Is there anyone in the audience that
wants to address the Planning Board on this application, Site Plan 17-2024? I'm not seeing any takers.
Laura, are there written comments?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There's a written comment. This is "To Whom It May Concern: My property and year
round residence(Tax ID 259.10-1-16)directly abuts the Celadon property. I'm familiar with the proposed
plan and support the application made by Victor and Terry Celadon. I have no concerns. Sincerely,Dean
Reali" And that was the only one.
MR. TRAVER-That's the only one. Okay. Then we will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-Are there any other questions or comments by members of the Board? Okay. We have a
draft resolution.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#17-2024 VICTOR&TERRY CELADON
Applicant proposes demolition of an existing home to construct a new 2,700 sq.ft.footprint home with a
floor area of 3,SS9 sq. ft. The project will maintain current well point, 131 sq.ft. shed and shoreline buffer.
Site work includes a new septic system and a total disturbance area of 12,19E sq. ft.. Pursuant to chapter
179-3-040 & 179-6-050, site plan for new floor area in a CEA and hard surfacing within 50 ft. of the
shoreline shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
The Planning Board made a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals on 4/16/2024-1 the ZBA
approved the variance requests on 4/17/2024-1
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 4/23/2024 and continued the
public hearing to 4/23/2024 when it was closed,
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The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 4/23/2024;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 17-2024 VICTOR &z TERRY CELADON. Introduced by Fritz
Stefanzick who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted: g. site lighting, h. signage, k. topography, n traffic, o. commercial
alterations/construction details,q. soil logs,r. construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the expiration date of 4/23/2025-1
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
Motion seconded by Warren Longacker. Duly adopted this 23rd day of April 2024 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan,Mr. Stefanzick,Mr. Deeb,Mrs. McDevitt,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You are all set. Good luck.
MR.HALL-Thank you very much.
MR. TRAVER-The next item on our agenda is Paul Zemanek. This is Site Plan 16-2024.
SITE PLAN NO.16-2024 SEQR TYPE: TYPE 11. PAUL ZEMANEK. AGENT(S): R U HOLMES
ENGINEERS,PLLC. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: WR. LOCATION: GLEN
LAKE ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A 1,400 SQ. FT.
FOOTPRINT AND A FLOOR AREA OF 2,568 SQ.FT. THE EXISTING PARCEL IS VACANT. SITE
WORK INCLUDES NEW SEPTIC, WELL, DRIVEWAY ACCESS FROM THE ADJOINING LOT,
SHORELINE PLANTING PLAN AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. THE PROJECT
PARCEL IS ASSOCIATED WITH A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE ADJOINING LOT.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 AND 179-6-065,SITE PLAN FOR NEW FLOOR AREA IN A
CEA SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS
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REFERENCE: AV 19-2024. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. SITE INFORMATION: CEA,
GLEN LAKE,SLOPES. LOT SIZE: .05. TAX MAP NO.289.10-1-52.2. SECTION: 179-3-040,179-
6-065,179-6-050.
AARON ROBERTS&TOM JARRETT, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-The applicant proposes a new single family home of 1400 square feet, a floor area of 256E
square feet. Site work includes new septic,well,driveway and access from the adjoining lot,new shoreline
planting plan and stormwater management. The applicant did receive variances last week from the
Zoning Board of Appeals in reference to road frontage,lot width,water frontage,height as well as access
through the adjoining lots.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. Welcome back.
MR. ROBERTS-Good evening. Aaron Roberts with R U Holmes Engineers. With me is Tom Jarrett as
well as our client, Paul Zemanek, 10 Elm Drive on Glen Lake. To recap, the project proposes a lot line
adjustment between two existing tax parcels owned by the Zemaneks. The total shoreline width of the
two lots is 150 feet. Lot One,being here,is proposed to be reduced from 140 feet to 63 and a half feet,while
Lot Two is proposed to be increased from the 10 feet to S6 and a half feet. The existing development on
Lot One is proposed to remain,while the new single family dwelling on Lot Two is proposed with a well
and a wastewater system at the rear. Both Lot One and Lot Two are designed to be compliant in
permeability and floor area ratio. Lot One does have existing non-conforming setbacks to the shoreline
and the property line to the south that will maintain compliant setbacks from the property to the north
and to the rear. Lot Two is designed to be compliant with all property line setbacks as well as the shoreline
setback. Both lots also have stormwater management proposed to manage all existing and proposed
impermeable cover on the site. With that,we open it up to any questions the Board may have.
MR. TRAVER-Were there any changes,as a result of your discussion with the ZBA,to your plan?
MR. ROBERTS-No.
MR. TRAVER-Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. MAGOWAN-Did everybody kind of understand what I was talking about last Tuesday?
MR. TRAVER-Which was Lot One and which was Lot Two and the size of both.
MR. MAGOWAN-All right. The more I looked at and thought about it, but, I mean, it is a lot line
adjustment,and I'm not looking at the 10 feet.
MR. TRAVER-Not anymore.
MR. MAGOWAN-So nobody else had any concern with what we're creating?
MR.TRAVE R-That's what we're about to find out. Any questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. STEFANZIK-I'm good.
MR. TRAVER-There is a public hearing on this application as well. Is there anyone in the audience that
wants to address the Planning Board on Site Plan 16-2024? I'm not seeing anyone. Are there written
comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There is a written comment. This is,"We have a summer camp at 14 Genista Lane,so we
were sent a variance notice. I don't know the specifics about the actual project, so there could be some
details about the project that I am unaware of. However, in general, I would hate to see another house
built close to the lake,unless it was replacing an existing house. Glen Lake is already totally built out,
with no undeveloped land left that I am aware of. To add more houses near the shoreline without
municipal water and sewer seems like a bad idea. Also there was a bald eagle nest last year, that is very
close to the proposed project. It successfully fledged 2 eaglets, and I assume they will be back for many
years. It would be a shame to impact their survival and success. Stephen Mackey"
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you,and that was it,right?
MRS. MOORE-That's it.
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MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. Then we will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-Any further questions or comments by members of the Board?
MR. STEFANZIK-That eagle's nest isn't on your property,I assume.
PAUL ZEMANEK
MR. ZEMANEK-It's a good distance away.
MR. TRAVER-Is it actually an eagle's nest? Because there's a.
MRS. MOORE-It's an osprey.
MR. ZEMANEK-It's an osprey. I have not seen it. I've heard of it in the last year or so.
MR. TRAVER-Because I know when I kayak over there there's an osprey point,there's a big osprey nest.
I got a little too close one time and she gave me a dirty look. All right. Well,if there's no other questions,
we have a motion.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#16-2024 PAUL ZEMANEK
Applicant proposes a new single family home with a 1,400 sq. ft. footprint and a floor area of 4,200 sq. ft.
The existing parcel is vacant. Site work includes new septic,well, driveway access from the adjoining lot,
shoreline planting plan and stormwater management. The project parcel is associated with a lot line
adjustment for the adjoining lot.Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040 and 179-6-065,site plan for new floor area
in a CEA shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
The Planning Board made a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals on 4/16/2024-1 the ZBA
approved the variance requests on 4/17/2024-1
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 4/23/2024 and continued the
public hearing to 4/23/2024 when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 4/23/2024;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 16-2024 PAUL ZEMANEK;Introduced by Fritz Stefanzick who
moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted: g. site lighting, h. signage, k. topography, n traffic, o. commercial
alterations/construction details,q. soil logs,r. construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the expiration date of 4/23/2025-1
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current 'NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
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b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
Motion seconded by Ellen McDevitt. Duly adopted this 23ra day of April 2024 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stefanzick,Mr. Deeb,Mrs. McDevitt,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: Mr. Magowan
MR. TRAVER-You're all set. Good luck
MR. ROBERTS-Thank you very much.
MR. ZEMANEK-Thankyou.
MR.TRAVER-So the next item before us is Seeley Machine Incorporated. This is Subdivision Preliminary
Stage 2-2024 and Subdivision Final Stage 3-2024,and this is an Unlisted action under SEQR.
SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 2-2024 SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE 3-2024 SEQR TYPE:
UNLISTED. SEELEY MACHINE,INC. AGENT(S): HUTCHINS ENGINEERING. OWNER(S):
SEELEY BOOMWORKS, LLC. ZONING: CLI. LOCATION: 75 BIG BOOM ROAD. THIS
PROJECT IS FOR A 2 LOT SUBDIVISION OF A 7.25 ACRE PARCEL. THE FIRST PARCEL WILL
BE 3.04 ACRES AND MAINTAIN THE EXISTING SEELEY MACHINE, INC. BUILDING. THE
SECOND PARCEL WILL BE 4.21 ACRES AND CONTAIN THE EXISTING 15,000 SQ. FT.
BUILDING. THE PROPOSED LOT LINE WILL SEPARATE THE TWO BUILDINGS BETWEEN
THE SHARED AND COVERED LOADING DOCK. NO SITE CHANGES ARE PROPOSED. A
WAIVER FOR SUBDIVISION SKETCH PLAN IS BEING REQUESTED. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS
SOUGHT FOR A 2 LOT SUBDIVISION LINE BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS WITH A ZERO FT.
SETBACK. PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING
BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE: SP 65-2005,SP 67-2014,AV 23-2024,AV 24-2024,
SP 18-2024, SP 19-2024. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A FOR SUBDIVISION. SITE
INFORMATION: HUDSON RIVER SLOPES. LOT SIZE: 7.25 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 309.18-1-
1. SECTION: 179-3-040.
TOM HUTCHINS&ED LEONARD, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So this is a two lot subdivision of a 7.25 acre parcel. The first parcel will be 3.04 acres to
maintain the existing 21,300 square foot existing building. The second lot is to be 4.21 acres and contain
the existing 15,000 square foot building. There are no changes overall on the sites. I will say that the
Zoning Board took a look at this the other evening. They tabled it. Accordingly,you have to create the
subdivision first to create the variance.
MR. TRAVER-Right.
MRS. MOORE-So that's why it's back before this Board and then you'll see it again on Thursday for the
Site Plan.
MR. TRAVER-Twice in one week. Okay. All right. So we are only here, although we do have to conduct
SEQR on this.
MRS. MOORE-Correct.
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MR.TRAVER-SEQR and then the proposed subdivision for the business purposes. Questions,comments
from members of the Board? I know we did look at this last week. Are there any additional questions,
comments? Okay. Are there any concerns regarding environmental impacts? This is a subdivision with
no real change to the site, but we do need to consider, this is an Unlisted action. Are there any
environmental impact concerns? Okay.
MRS. MOORE-You will have to open the public hearing.
MR. TRAVER-Yes. There is a public hearing on this application on this application for subdivision. Is
there anyone in the audience that wants to, we lost our audience. So I guess I will ask if we have any
written comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then we will open and close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-And if there's no environmental concerns,we can consider the resolution under SEQR.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC. SUB#2-2024 SEELEY MACHINE,INC.
This project is for a 2 lot subdivision of a 7.25 acre parcel. The first parcel will be 3.04 acres and maintain
the 21,300 sq. ft. existing Seeley Machine, Inc. building. The second parcel will be 4.21 acres and contain
the existing 15,000 sq. ft. building. The proposed lot line will separate the two buildings between the
shared and covered loading dock. No site changes are proposed. A waiver for subdivision sketch plan is
being requested. Pursuant to chapter IS3, two lot subdivision shall be subject to Planning Board review
and approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to
review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations
of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Long EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Part 2 of the Long EAF has been reviewed by the Planning Board;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of Queensbury
Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse impacts on the
environment,and,therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be prepared. Accordingly,this
negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE
2-2024 SEELEY MACHINE,INC..Introduced by Fritz Stefanzick who moved for its adoption,
As per the resolution prepared by staff.
1. Part II of the Long EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Long EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify potentially
moderate to large impacts.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 23rd day of April 2024 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mrs. McDevitt,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Stefanzick,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-So next we consider the subdivision. Are we doing?
MRS. MOORE-Final Stage.
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MR. TRAVER-Final Stage. Okay.
MRS. MOORE-No,you need to do Preliminary. Sorry.
MR. TRAVER-So first we do Preliminary. That's all right. I was wondering the same thing. So we have
a motion first for Preliminary Stage.
RESOLUTION APPROVING PRELIMINARY STAGE SUB#2-2024 SEELEY MACHINE,INC.
A subdivision application has been made to the Queensbury Planning Board for the following:This project
is for a 2 lot subdivision of a 7.25 acre parcel. The first parcel will be 3.04 acres and maintain the 21,300 sq.
ft. existing Seeley Machine, Inc. building. The second parcel will be 4.21 acres and contain the existing
15,000 sq. ft. building. The proposed lot line will separate the two buildings between the shared and
covered loading dock. No site changes are proposed. A waiver for subdivision sketch plan is being
requested. Pursuant to chapter IS3, two lot subdivision shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter A-IS3,the Planning Board
has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
The requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been considered and the Planning
Board has adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration
A public hearing was scheduled and held on 4/23/2024.
This application is supported with all documentation,public comment,and application material in the file
of record;
MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 2-2024 SEELEY MACHINE,INC.
Introduced by Fritz Stefanzick who moved for its adoption.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 23rd day of April 2024 by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. McDevitt,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan, Mr. Stefanzick,Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-So next we consider the Final Stage,which completes the Subdivision application.
RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL STAGE SUB#3-2024 SEELEY MACHINE,INC.
A subdivision application has been made to the Queensbury Planning Board for the following:This project
is for a 2 lot subdivision of a 7.25 acre parcel. The first parcel will be 3.04 acres and maintain the 21,300 sq.
ft. existing Seeley Machine, Inc. building. The second parcel will be 4.21 acres and contain the existing
15,000 sq. ft. building. The proposed lot line will separate the two buildings between the shared and
covered loading dock. No site changes are proposed. A waiver for subdivision sketch plan is being
requested. Pursuant to chapter IS3, two lot subdivision shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter A-IS3,the Planning Board
has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
This application is supported with all documentation,public comment,and application material in the file
of record;
MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE 3-2024 SEELEY MACHINE, INC.
Introduced by Fritz Stefanzick who moved for its adoption.
1. The requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been considered and the
Planning Board has adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration; and if the application is a
modification, the requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been
considered, and the proposed modification[s] do not result in any new or significantly different
environmental impacts, and,therefore,no further SEQRA review is necessary;
2. Waiver requests granted:sketch plan stage, stormwater;
3. The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the expiration date of 4/23/2025 if you have not yet
applied for a building permit or commenced significant site work.
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4. The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall be
installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff
5. Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of Planning Board Chairman.
6. The applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a) The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit or for coverage under an individual SPDES prior to the start of aU site
work.
b) The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project; and
7. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
a) The approved final that have been stamped by the Town Zoning Administrator.
These plans must include the project SWPPP(Storm Water Pollution Prevention
Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved; and
b) The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project.
S. Final approved plans,in compliance with the Subdivision,must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel.
9. The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit and/or
the beginning of any site work.
10. Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
It. As-built plans to certify that the subdivision is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy;
12. Resolutions must be included on Final Subdivision Mylar.
Motion seconded by Ellen McDevitt. Duly adopted this 23ra day of April 2024 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Stefanzick, Mr. Deeb,Mrs. McDevitt,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You're off to the ZBA.
MR. ROBERTS-Thank you very much. We appreciate it. It's very important to their business.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Well that concludes our regular agenda. Is there any other business before the
Board this evening? Anything that we should know about Thursday night, Laura, that's any changes in
the agenda that you're aware of?
MRS.MOORE-No,it just got smaller. I did add one additional item as a Planning Board recommendation,
which you all should have that application material, and I just want to make sure that Board members
know that next month's meetings,there's still three meetings next month as well.
MR. TRAVER-So far not a third one?
MRS. MOORE-Yes,there is a third one. There'll be three meetings next month,and the third meeting is a
Special Meeting,it'll be one topic.
MR. TRAVER-Is that for West Mountain?
MRS. MOORE-That'll be West Mountain,yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Good. I'm glad we planned it that way.
MRS. MC DEVITT-The West Mountain thing,is it just one of the phases that we're discussing?
MRS.MOO RE-There's room for discussion on how to proceed. So I'm in the process of talking with them
to see, and then I'll develop Staff Notes as well. You have some Staff Notes from Stu who's done most of
the work,preliminary,for the petition of zone change. So I'll give you follow up information.
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MRS. MC DEVITT-So the Planning Board meetings are the 14`h,the 16`h,and then which date?
MRS. MOORE-The 23rd
MRS. MC DEVITT-Okay. Yes,I got that.
MR. TRAVER-All right,if there's nothing further,I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
MOTION TO ADJOURN THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF APRIL 23RD
2024,Introduced by Brad Magowan who moved for its adoption,seconded by David Deeb:
Duly adopted this 23rd day of April,2024,by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mrs. McDevitt,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Stefanzick, Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-We stand adjourned,everybody. Thank you very much,and we'll see you Thursday.
On motion meeting was adjourned.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Stephen Traver,Chairman
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