1978-06-27 Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brand l
Noes: None
Absent: None
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REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING JUNE 27, 1973
ME14BERS PRESENT: Michel Brandt-Supervisor
Daniel Olson-Councilman
Frances Walter-Councilman
I Hammond Robertson-Councilman
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Joseph Brennan-Town Counsel
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MEMBERS ABSENT: Dr. Charles Eisenhart
E PRESS: WBZA, Glens Falls Post Star
GUESTS: Residents of Lake George, Mr. Arthur Turnbull, Mrs . Turnbull,
Mr. Ovitt Ms. Belanger, Dr. Irion, Mr. Roberts
TOWN OFFICIALS- Mrs . Shenk, Mr. Bodenweiser, Chi&f Judkins, Mr. Liapes
Meeting Opened 7: 43 P.M. Salute to the Flag led by Councilman Robertson.
PUBLIC HEARING-MOBILE HOME-CYNTHIA L. BELANGER- NOTICE SHOWN
Location of Mobile Home-proposal-Luzerne Road-
' Building & Zoning Dept. gave their recommendations
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Supervisor Brandt- opened the hearing— requested anyone, that was interested
in this application to come forth. . .
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Mr. Robert Ovitt--not in favor of the application-discussed the problems
with the previous mobile home at that location. . . sewage system problems
etc. . . .questioned if this was a temporary or permanent mobile home?
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Supervisor Brandt-This is an application for a permanent mobile home.
Mr. Robert Ovitt--asked why he was not contacted by the Building & Zoning
Dept. about this . . .other neighbors were questioned?
jMr. Goerge Liapes- reported on Mr. Lynn' s canvassof the area. . .noted that
Mr. Ovitt was not home when this was done. . .
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Supervisor Brandt- questioned Mrs. Belanger about the sewage system. . .
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Mrs. Belanger- noted that she had contacted Queensbury Septic in regard
to a proper system. . .
Councilman Olson- you now live at Homestead Village. . .you will have to
purchase another mobile home to come up to the town' s standards
Mrs. Belanger- noted that she was aware of the town's specifications . . .
j Councilman Olson- questioned what future plans Mrs. Belanger had.
Mrs. Belanger-would like to place a double wide home on the lot or a
house. . .right now that is not financially feasible. . .
Mr. Robert Ovitt- noted how well the area has been coming up—noted that
there are trailer parks in the area. . .
Mrs. Belanger- Mobile Home Parks are not everybody' s idea of
g quiert family
living. . .
Supervisor Brandt- asked for further comments —no one spoke. . . declared
C the hearing closed 7: 49 P.M.
Councilman Olson- requested that Town Counsel review the applicatnn
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PUBLIC HEARING- ORDINANCE PTO-PARKING-BIG BOOM ROAD-NOTICE SHOWN i
Supervisor Brandt- opened the hearing 7: 49 P.M. requested anyone j
that is interested to speak. . .noted that this is a recommendation
of the Chief of Police-Town of Queensbtzry and the W.G.F. Fire Co.
Councilman Robertson requested that the following be placed into the
record:
POLICE DEPT.
TO HONORABLE TOWN BOARD: Jan. 19. 1978
Many complaints have been received from concerned citizens, members j J
of the town board, highway crews and the West Glens Falls Fire J
Department concerning tractor-trailers parking on the Big Boom Road. --�
This situation hinders the normal flow of traffic; interferes with
snow removal and plowing and creates a fire hazard in that it is
difficult, if not impossible, for large, fire-fighting equipment to
transit this road.
It is, therefore, recommended that an ordinance be considered to
establish a no parking zone on the east side ( & West per Town Board)
of "Big Boom Road" for a distance of 500 feet from the intersection
of the "Big Boom Road" and the Corinth Road.
Respectfully submitted.,
C.A. Judkins , Chief
Supervisor Brandt- requested any further comments. . . no one spoke. . .
Hearing Closed 7: 51 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING- PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO. 33-NOTICE SHOWN
Supervisor Brandt- opened hearing; 7: 51 P.M. requested anyone interested
in this proposed amendment to come forth.
Proposed Ordinance read. . .
Unknown- how is this going to be enforced?
Supervisor Brandt- the town has no boat patrol this will be handled by
the State Park Agency or Sheriff' s Dept.
Dr. Nagamatsu-recommended that this should be passed—noted a problem
with water lines — the patrol boats are capable of enforcing the proposed
amendment. . .
Mr. Arthur Turnbull- questioned if the Town had the right to propose such
an ordinance in State Waters?
Town Counsel-stating town law noted that the Town does have a right to
such an ordinance. . .noted that the ordinance will not become effective
until there is approval from Conservation Commission. . .
Mr. Turnbull- questioned if this meat fishermen?
Town Counsel-the ordinance states anchor-ing or mooring within 2001
Councilman Robertson- noted that this is a compromise amendment some �J
people on the lake would like it 500' from shore. . .
Mr. Jack Slopey- agree with change. . .could see no problem with
fishermen
Mrs. Sally Chhnier-Dunhams Bay-commented upon the boats dist nbing water
lines. . .noted that some fishermen are not sportt4men like and till not
move when asked. . . in favor of the proposed ordinance would like to see
it even go to 500'
Mr. Mark Williams-not in favor of the proposal. . .noted that the problem
seems to be enforcement—boaters have as much right to the lake as any
others. . .
Mrs. - noted by error they placed bouys 200' out and had
no problem with the boaters. . .would like to see the 200' passed.
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fMr. Williams-this ordinance would be infringing on the rights of boaters
to satisfy a few, 100' is more than enough. . .
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Mrs. Hopper- Warner Bay- Support the proposal. . .
Mrs. Perry-Cleverdale- My husband and I both support this measure. . .
Mr. Jack Slopey- noted that both the boaters and landowners have problems
each not realizing the others rights. . . and problems . . .
Unknown- owner of business- 100' is sufficient. . .
Councilman Walter- the problem seems to be enforcement. . .
Mrs. Turnbull-commented that ten months out of the year we do not get
their cooperation why should we help them. . .
Mary - full time resident of Lake George . . . the problem has
been compouncing itself year after year. . .noted that the residents do
support the town through taxes and coming to meetings. . .
Mrs. - support the proposed ordinance. . . take objection to not
supporting tTe town. . .
Supervisor Brandt- noted that there has been some confusion in regard to
whether it was 100 or 200 feet which caused problems in enforcement. . .
Councilman Walter- questioned Town Counsel if the 200' was a reasonable
amount, to stand up in court?
Town Counsel-The State feelings is due to the size of the water. . . in re-
gard to Lake George, the State feeling is that 200' would be reasonable. . .
Mr. Turnbull- Lake George is too commercial. . .
Supervisor Brandt-asked for further comments , non being heard the hearing
was declared closed. 8: 22 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING-AMEND ORDINANCE NO. 28-STOP SIGNS-NOTICE 91IO1dN
Supervisor Brandt- opened the hearing 8: 22 P.M. asked if anyone
was interested in this proposal to speak. . .
Noted that a petition had been received from residents of the aaea re-
garding stop signs. . . the Chief of Police investigated and presented
the Board with his concept at the last meeting.
no one spoke. . .
Supervisor Brandt- declared the hearing closed. 8: 25 P.M.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE BOARD MINUTES
I RESOLUT Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who marred its adoption
secon ed by Mrs . Frances Walter:
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board Minutes of June 13th, 1978 be and hereby
are approved.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
E Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
' Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
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RESOLUTION TO DESIGNATE POLLING PLACES IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
RESOLUTION 0. 164 Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved its
adoption, seco-n-d-e-T by Mr. Hammond Robertson:
WHEREAS, Article 4 Section 66 of the Election Law provides that this
board shall designate the Polling Places where registration of voters
and the election shall be held during the year following, NOM, THERE-
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FORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the following locations be and they thereby are designated
as the respective polling places in the Districts as enumerated.
DISTRICT LOCATION
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1. So. Queensbury Fire House
2. Oneida Grange Hall
3. Bay Ridge Fire House
4. North Queensbury Fire House
5 . Warren Co. Municipal Center
(Supreme Court Entrance)
6. Queensbury Junior High School
(Middle School First Door)
7. Queensbury Town Office Building`
8. Queensbury Central Fire House
9. Queensbury Senior High School
10. Aviation Road Fire House
11. Queensbury Middle School
12. Kensington Road School (West Entr.) '
13. West Glens Falls Community Chapel
14. West Glens Falls Firehouse (West
end)
15. West Glens Falls Firehouse (East
end)
16. Queensbury Water Department
Maintenance Bldg.
17. Queensbury Town Office Building
RESOLVED, that pursuant to said law a private building, namely the Oneida
Grange Hall is so designated as the Polling Place for a district, namely,
District #2 in which a public building is situated, namely the Queensbury
Town Hall, for the reason that said Public Building is used as the Polling
Place for another election district, namely Election District #7 and #17
and be it further
RESOLVED, that the rental for such Polling Places be and the same hereby - �
is fixed,.at the sum of $40. 00 per annum.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mrs . Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
Councilman Olson- requested the Town Clerk to inform the Board about the
Election Inspectors. . .
Town Clerk, Donald Chase- The Town of Queensbury is no longer responsible
for appointing Election Inspector, that is now done by the Board of
Elections , Warren Co.
RESOLUTION TO WAIVE FEE FOR SIGN PERMIT APPLICATION
RESOLUTTON NQ- 165 , Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its
adoption, secondeT by Mr. Hammond Robertson:
WHEREAS, the United Way is going to apply for a sign variance, and
WHEREAS, the United Way is a non-profit organization, therefore be it
RESOLVED, to waive the $25. 00 application fee for the United Way.
The following vote was taken:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: done
Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
Councilman Olson- Mr. Liapes has the sign been applied for yet?
Mr. Liapes- no, it will be placed in the Pyramid Mall if approved. . .
oversized. . .
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RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE MONEY
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RRCnT.TTTTnN NO. 1aj Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt:
WHEREAS, the 1978 budget provided $325. 00 for Mountainside Free Library,
and,
WHEREAS, the signed contract provides for a payment of $350. 00, therefore
be it
RESOLVED, to appropriate $25 . 00 from A2710, Refund of prior Years Expenses
to A7410. 440, Library, to increase the total appropriation to $350. 00.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
Councilman Olsnn- hoped that the amount can be increased in the next budget.
Ltr- from N. W. Bodenweiser Fire Marshal-reviewed last conference he attended
requested to attend another conference in October. . . on file. . .
RESOLUTION TO ATTEND CONFERENCE
RESOLUTION Nn 1h7 Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt:
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RESOLVED, that Mr. Bill Bodenweiser, Fire Marshal be given permission
to attend a Fire Marshal' s Seminar at Montour Falls Academy of Fire
Science on October 18-19, 1978, and be it further
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RESOLVED, that the necessary and reasonable expenses incurred at this
conference are a proper town charge.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
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Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
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Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
fDiscussion held before last vote:
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Councilman Olson-will there be enough money in your budget?
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Mr. Bodenweiser- I should have more than enough.
Supervisor Brandt- It must be understood that you have to live within your
budget.
RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE MONEY
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RF.SOT.11TTnN Nn_ '16R1 Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
adoption, seconded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
WHEREAS, the budgeted appropriations for 1978 Sewer Connections in Pershing,
Ashley, Coolidge Sewer District is $1500.00 and,
—t WHEREAS, the actual bill from the City of Glens Falls i$ $1550.00, therefore
be it
RESOLVED, to appropriate $50.00 from Surplus Account SS1-909 to Account
SS1-8130.440 to increase the appropriation amount to $1550.00.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
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Supervisor Brandt- introduced a motion to approve the Belanger Mobile
Home, it has to be understood that mobile home must meet the requirements
of the Mobile -Home Ordinance and an adequate sewage system. . .
RESOLUTION TO.AUTHORIZE PERMIT FOR MOBILE HOME
SOLUTI , Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its
adoption, seconded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
WHEREAS, Cynthia L. Belanger has made application in accordance with
paragraph 2 (c) Section 4, of an ordinance of the Town of Queensbury
entitled: ORDINANCE FOR THE REGULATION OF MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE
HOME COURTS IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, WARREN COUNTY, NEW YORK, to
locate a mobile home at property situated on Luzerne Road, and
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WHEREAS, this town board has conducted a public hearing in connection
with said application and has heard all persons desiring to be heard
in favor of or against said application, and
WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that the facts presented in said
application and at said public hearing are sufficient to authorize
the issuance of the permit requested by said applicatinn, therefore be it
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RESOLVED, that pursuant to the provisions of the above mentioned ordinance,
permission is hereby given to Cynthia L. Belanger to locate a mobile home
at property situated at Luzerne Road and that the Building Inspector is
hereby authorized and directed to issue such permit in accordance with
the terms and conditions of said ordinance.
The following vote was taken:
Ayes: Mrs. . Walt9r, Mr. Brandt
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Noes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Robertson
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Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
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MOTION DEFEATED
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RESOLUTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 47, ENTITLED ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH
A NO-PARKING ZONE ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF BIG BOOM ROAD FOR A DISTANCE
OF 500' FROM THE INTERSECTION OF BIG BOOM ROAD AND THE CORINTH ROAD
RESOLUTION N0, 17n_ Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved its adoption,
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seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt:
WHEREAS, the Town Board deems it necessary to adopt an ordinance number 47
entitled Ordinance to establish a no-parking zone in the East and West
side of Big Boom Road for a distance of 500' from the intersection of Big
Boom Road and the Corinth Road, and
WHEREAS, a proposed Ordinance was presented to the Board and after due
notice a Public Hearing was held thereon by the Town Board on the 27th day
of June, 1978 at 7: 30 P.M. at the Town Office Building, Bay and Haviland
Roads, Glens Falls, New York 12801, and that the Town Clerk gave notice of
such hearing by publication thereof in the Official Town Newspapers at
least once prior to the date specified for such hearing, specifying the time
when and the place where such hearing will be held and in general terms
describing said proposed Ordinance, and
WHEREAS, all persons were heard both in favor of and opposed to said
Ordinance, Now, Therefore be it
RESOLVED, that Ordinance Number 47 of the Town of Queensbury be as
follows:
ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A NO-PARKING ZONE ON THE
EAST AND WEST SIDE OF BIG BOOM ROAD FOR A DIS-
TANCE OF 500' FROM THE INTERSECTION OF BIG BOOM
ROAD AND THE CORINTH ROAD
BE IT ENACTED AND ORDAINED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY,
WARREN COUNTY, NEW YORK, AS FOLLOWS:
Section No. 1. For the purpose of this Ordinance the word "vehicle"
"park" and "standing" shall have the meaning defined in the Vehicle and
Traffic Law of the State of New York.
Section No. 2 No vehicle shall be parked or left standing on the
East and West side of Big Boom Road for a distance of 500' from the inter-
section of Big Boom Road and the Corinth Road, Town of Queensbury.
Section No. 3. All ordinances or parts thereof of the Town of Queensbury
inconsistent with the provisions of this ordinance are hereby repealed; pro-
vided, however, that such repeal shall be only to the extent of such incon-
sistency and in all other respects this ordinance shall be in addition to the
other ordinances regulating and governing the subject matter covered by this
" ordinance.
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ii Section No. 4. Any person violating any provisions of Section 2 of this
ordinance shall upon conviction be punishable for a first offense by a fine
not to exceed TEN DOLLARS ($10.00) and for a second offense by" a fine not
less than TEN DOLLARS ($10. 00) nor more than TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS ($25.00) or
by imprisonment for not less than TWO (2) nor more than TEN (10) days . The
third or any subsequent offense within one (1) year shall be punishable by a
fine not to exceed ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($100.00) or by imprisonment not to
exceed THIRTY (30) days or by both such. fine and imprisonment. In addition
to the aforesaid penalties, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury may in-
stitute any proper action, suit or proceeding to prevent restrain correct
or abate any violation of this ordinance.
f Section No. 5. This ordinance shall take effect immediately.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mrs . Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Aoes : None
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{ Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
Councilman Robertson introduced a resolution to amend Ordinance No. 33
seconded by Councilman Olson-discussion followed. . .Councilman Olson asked
if this applied to all bodies of water in the Town. . .Town Counsel yes. . .
Supervisor Brandt requested that an addition be made to limit this
i to Lake George Waters, Councilman Robertson and Councilman Olson agreed.
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! RESOLUITON TO AMEND SECTION 4 OF ORDINANCE NO. 33 OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
SOLUTION NO_ " Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
WHEREAS, Ordinance No. 33 of the Town of Queensbury provided, in Section
4 thereof, for the regulation of anchorage in the waters within the
boundaries. of said Town, pursuant to Section 130 (17) of the Town Law 'of
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the State of New York; and
WHEREAS, said Ordinance limits the anchoring or mooring of any boat within
100 feet of any private dock or other improved property, ; and
WHEREAS, by Resolution No. 206 of 1974, the Town Board of the Town of Queens-
bury approved and adopted a proposed amendment to Section 4 of Ordinance
No. 33 which proposed amendment would have extended the regulation of anchorage
to
anda distance of 200 feet from any private dock or other improved properties;
WHEREAS, after adoption, the proposed amendment was submitted to the Conser-
vation Commissioner of the State of New York for consideration and written
approval as required by Town Law Section 130 (17) (2) ; and
WHEREAS, said approval has never been given by the Conservation Commissioner
of the State of New York; and
WHEREAS, the Conservation Commissioner of the State of New York has raised
objections to the 1974 proposed amendment of Section 4 of Ordinance No. 33;
I and
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WHEREAS, a proposed amendment has been presented to the Town Board of the
Town of Queensbury which would amend Section 4 of Ordinance No. 33 to read
as follows:
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Section 4. Regulation of anchorage. No person shall anchor
or moor any boat within 200 feet of any private property, except
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in a case of emergency or at the direction of any poli
officer, or at the invitation of the owner or lessee of said
property. Applicable to Lake George Waters only.
WHEREAS, a public hearing as required by law has been scheduled and held
before the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury on June 27, 1978; and j
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WHEREAS, all persons is support of and in opposition to the proposed
amendment have been heard at said public hearing; and
WHEREAS, due deliberation and consideration having been given to the
proposed amendment
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT -
RESOLVED, that Section 4 of Ordinance No. 33 of the Town of Queensbury
be amended to read as follows:
Section 4. Regulation of anchorage. No person shall
anchor or moor any boat within 200 feet of any private
property, except in a case of emergency or at the direction
of any police officer, or at the invitation of the owner or
lessee of said property. Applicable to Lake George Waters only.
AQ D BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk be directed to cause said publication
of notice of said amendment of ordinance as isi required by Town
Law Section 133 and to submit said amendment dif Ordinance No. :i3 to
the Conservation Commissioner of Ue State of -lew York for consideration
for written approval, and be it further
RESOLVED, that saiu amengnent take effect in accordance with the provisions
of down Law Section 133 and upon receipt of the approval in writing of said
amendment of Or din ance from the Conservation Commissioner of the State of
,N ew York.
Luly adopted by the Following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: Mrs. Walter
Absent: yr. Eisenhart
RESOLUTION TO AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 28 OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
RESOLUTION N0. 172, Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
WHEREAS, a proposed amendment to Ordinance Number 28 of the Town of Queens'-
bury was presented to the Town Board, pursuant to Section 1660 (a) (1) of the
New York Vehicle and Traffic Law an.4 after due notice a public hearing was
held thereon by the Town Board on the 27th day of June, L97b at the Town
Office Building, -bay and Haviland Roads, Glens Falls, i4ew York, i2dUl and
that the Town Clerk gdxe notice of such hearing by publication thereof in the
official town newspapt#rs at least once prior to the date specified for such
hearing, specifying the time when and the place where such hearing will be
held and in general terms describing said proposed amendment and
WHEREAS, all persons were heard both in favor of and opposed to , NOW,
1HE REF ORS BE I.1.
RESOLVED, that Ordinance Number 28 of the Town cEQueensbury establishing
through highways and stop intersections in the Town of Queensbury, County
of Warren and State of New York be amended as follows :
Section 3. Ordinance Number 28 of the Town of Queensbury establishing
through highways and stop intersections in the Town of Queensbury, County
of Warren, and State of New York, is hereby amended to include two way stop
signs at the following intersections :
Intersection of Haven Lane ardCentennial Drive-Northeast and south-west
corners to stop traffic on Haven Lane.
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Intersection of Westland Ave. and Haven Lane-Southeast and northwest
corners to stop traffic on Westland Avenue.
Intersection of Haven Lane and Sweetbriar Lane-Northeast corner of
stop traffic on Haven Lane.
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{ Intersection of Kiley Lane and Buena Vista Ave. -Southwest corner to
f stop traffic on Kiley Lane.
Intersection of Kiley Lane and Westland Ave.-Southeast corner to stop
traffic on Westland Ave.
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and that the stop signs at tte intersection of Haven Lane and BuenaVista Ave.
which were approved December 1, 1969 be removed and the stop signs at the
intersection of Centennial Drive and Kiley Lane which were approved July 26,
1977 also be removed.
i All ordinances or parts thereof of the Town of Queensbury, inconsistant with
the provisions of this ordinance are hereby repealed ; provided however, that
such repeal shall be only to the extent of such inconsistency and in all
other respects this ordinance shall be in addition to the other ordinances
regulating and governing the subject matter covered by this cr dinance.
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This ordinance shall take effect immediately.
Duly adopted by the followin g vote : f
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
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Absent : Dr. Eiaenhart'
LL ( copies to be made for the Police Chief and Highway Dept. )
COMMUNICATIONS
-Traffic Hazard Report-State Police-Quaker and Bay Roads on file
Councilman Olson and Councilman Walter discussed a problem with thelight
at Aviation Rd. Hill-Pyramid Mall Co. Operates this light. . .
Supervisor Brandt- noted receiving a letter from the Recreation Dept.
requesting the appointing of a full time director. . .a full time director
I using State monies , being sought out , could produce revenuem in excess
of the proposed salary. . . Moved to appoint the Recreation Commission
choice, seconded by Councilman Walter. . .Councilman Olson requested a
ten minute recess to discuss this appointment, seconded by Councilman
Robertson . . , .Councilman Olson withdrew his motion. . . the resolution
to appoint a recreation director was tabled until later in the evening,
agreedd upon by the entire town board. (Res. 173 found on page 65 . )
Ltr.
Mr. Thomas Flaherty, Superintendent of Water
Queensbury Water Department
R.D.#2 Corinth Rd,
Queensbury, New York 13801
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Re : Emergency at Hudson Falls Pumping Station
Dear Mr. Flarity:
The Mayor and Board of Trustees would like to express their thanks and
appreciation fcr the aid received by you on the evening of May 3, 19782
during the emergency at the Hudson Falls Pumping Station.
You are to be highly commended for the service you provided.
Yours truly,
/s/
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MORRIS A. NASSIVERA
Acting Deputy Mayor
MAN:mp
Supervisor Brandt- congratulated Mr. Flaherty on helping. . . glad to see
him continue the policy of helping our neighbors when they need help.
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MOBILE HOME APPLICATION 90 DAY APPLICATION- Family YMCA
location YMCA Camp Chepontuc Bay Rd.
Reason-The YMCA and Lake George Center are co-sponsoring an American
Youth Hostel.
Building & Zoning Dept. -approval.
Mr. Jack Iron- described the youth hostel. . .a place for youth
to stay while traveling through an area. . .national organization. . .
the trailer is requested for the house parents. . . �--�
Ron Montesi- representing YMCA- described the program
Councilman Olson- what are the hours. . .
Mr. Troumbley- representing the Lake George Center - 4:OOP.M. until
9 A.M. the next mornipg. . .noted there are approximately 3 to 4 hundred
in the nation
Councilman Walter- Mr. Liapes, does the year of the mobile home
meet the requirements of the ordinance?
Mr. Liapes- that does not pertain to travel trailers. . .
Ltr. RD#1 Bay Road
Lake George, New York
June 27 , 1978
Mr. Michael Brandt, Supervisor
Town of Queensbury
Queensbury Town Office Building
Bay and Haviland Roads , RD1
Glens Falls, New York 12801
Attention:
Officers and Members
Queensbury Town Board
RE: Application for
Mobile Home #4
Dear Mr. Brandt:
Since my health prohibits my attending the above Public
Hearing, I am requesting this letter be read into the record
and given full consideration at this Hearing.
My property, situated on Bay Road bounds the Y.M.C.A. Day
Camp, both on the North and East. I do wish to protest the
placement of another Mobile Home in tie area. There is a petition
and letter on file in your office regarding and requesting that
no further permits, either temporary or permanent, be issued
for this area. It was hoped that this request, in the early
years of zoning, would make it known to the town officials that the
majority of the residence did not want mobile homes placed in the
area and that this request would suffice and that it would eliminate
the necessity of constant Public Hearings, turning one neighbor
against another, as they do. It does seem that the above Public
Hearing is putting the cart before the horse again. If a taxpaying
property owner in this area wanted to Create a Youth Hostel in a
Day Camp , I am sure he would have to apply for a variance to create
such a Hostel, he would also have to apply for another variance changing
the Dwy Camp to include it as a night time facility. Does this, and
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I the other strict rules and regulations of the Lake George Park
Commission and the Adirondack Park Agency which the taxpaying
property owner has to abide by, also apply to this Non-Profit
organization? If in all fairness it does , it would seem the
variances should be considered and approved or disapproved prior
to the consideration of the placement of a Mobile Home , for it the
variances for a Hostel and the changing of the Day Camp to include
a night time facility were disapproved, there would be no need for
the placement of a Mobile Home either permanent or temporary. Should
these questions be considered and ansered before proceeding and issuing
a permit;
No, to the dissitation regarding the placement of a Mobile Home.
I do take exception to the statement that the placement of this trailer
does not in any way interfere distrub or effect the neighborhood envir-
onment in which it is located. It certainly does distrub this neighbor.
In fact, the whole dissitation submitted frightens me to the extreme
due to its ambiguity and ramifications of the things it does not mention.
This in itself, has already effected and aggravated my health condition
including pain, loss of sleep and numerous side effects which I do not need
added to the poor prognosis I have been given. Sorry about this , but it
seems to be a necessary evil. I am a Veteran' s widow and a Disabled retiree,
and the mere writing of this letter is sheer torture.
I have been lead to believe that this is to be a self-contained
travel mobile home. It is a request for a temporary permit , June 1
thru Sept. 10, under the heading of "Why Create a Youth Hostel at Camp
Chepontuc?" Create generally means something lasting. Does the
Y.M.C.A. plan to request a temporary permit, with public hearings each
year or does it, as has happened before, with the issuance of a temporary
permit become a permanent placement? We all know that it will. Will the
issuance of this temporary permit become a permanent resident caretaker
for the "Y" facility the year round? I heard over a year ago that this
was under consideration due to this organization being plaqued by unknown
vandals. I did expect if the organization reached this decision, they
would construct a home in conformity with the other homes in the area.
Up to June 13, this organization had not yet filed a plan which is required of
each property owner of 25 acres or more. No one seems to believe this rule
! exempts a Non-Profit organization; therefore, I have to assume they have
delayed filing this plan.
Youth Hostels provide a refuge for youth hiking, bicycling, or
traveling at or thru the area. The dissitation does not stipulate
rather the bicycles are pedaled, motorized or if the traveling is by
horse, motor cart, bus or more self-contained travel mobile trailer
homes or perhaps, motorcycles. It does not say how the youths arrive
at 4:OOA.M. in the morning or leave this hostel. Rather at 4:OOA.M.
or 4:00 P.M. there does seem to be numerous modes of travel, which will
add to the noise, to the traffic, to the pollution and to the "turn
around vehicles in front of my home that missed the "Y' s" hidden drive-
way entrance. These "turn arounds" have distrubed and aggravated me
for years each time this Day Camp was opened for Family Day, Boy. Scout
Days , etc. I would have to expect the count of 25 or 30 "turn arounds"
a day would increase to more vehicles , more days , more noise, more
! disturbance of my peace, tranquillity and aggravations.
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I have suffered financial loss since this organization, their charges
and affilliations does not observe property lines or boundaries of
anyone in the area and have permitted their D-y Camp charges to cut
tops from trees on my property, to build their tree houses , they have
permitted their charges to drive nails in my trees which will kill
maples, especially. To me, these trees were timber to be harvested.
When my fields, on their north boundary was planted to crops, the
day camp tennants at that particular time being the Boy Scouts , allowed
50 and more of their boys to race and run thru this corn field, pull-
ing off corn to take home for Halloween decorations and knocking down
the stalks. When requested to get the children out of the corn, you
would have thought we were ogres. It took them two hours to round up
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the children and get them out of the field. Latter in the day, they
were back in there. It is suggested it would have been a good
opportunity to teach these charges that the destruction of growing
crops causes loss to the neighbor and could lead to a lack of food
for the livestock which put the milk on their table.
Eaich time the dam of the "Y" pool went out due to unknown vandals ,
their was no consideration of me, by their insurance carrier to clean
up my area of the brook between the dam sight and Pickle Hill Road. No
care that this portion of the brook was full of steel culverts , cement
plastic, uprooted trees and rubble. This is my problem, Right? Now I
am expected to be gullible enough to think that these Non-Profit
organizations have turned over a new leaf and will be much more capable
of keeping the added children and youth of a Day Camp plus a night time
facility, within their own boundaries as far as my property is concerned.
I am sorry, but this would also mean keeping these individuals off of ....�
the East Shore of the "Y" pool.
The past two summers on certain occasions , the "Y" Camp has allowed
Motorcycle travelers to use this Day time facility for overnight refuge
Have you been awakened at 1:00 and 2 :OOA,M, with 9 or 10 motorcycles
coming in to bed down next to you? Have you spent your peaceful tran-
quil desiring Sundays with motorcycles coming and going all day. It
does not add to the peace and quiet of country life I so loved and
hoped to retain. Motorcycles are a mode of traveling. Would the
disapproval of this Mobile Home permit, cancel the creation of the
Youth Hostel? Would the disapproval allow me to keep my way of life
or does this have to disappear too, that youth may have their exper-
ience? I already had a 3:30 A.M. experience since I have been living
alone, it was not appreciated. The police were.
The Article in the paper noted these Hostels were to be created all
along the Hudson River. This area is not oa the Hudson River, but
Glens Falls is. The "Y" has facilities in la-sFalls located near a
park. I am not a resident of Glens Falls , nor am I a resident of
Lake George. I am a life long resident of the Town of Queensbury. I
do not feel that the Town of Queensbury needs the trailer home, nor the
Hostel and all of its ramifications in this area. I do not feel it
will enhance this neighborhood in any way. I do not want it next to
me, it devaluates my Non-Profit property that I still pay taxes on.
Dose the Town of Queensbury feel it enhances the town and area? Does
the neighborhood feel it will add to the neighborhood and their
investments in their property and homes? I feel all of these questions
should be answered before any permit, temporary or permanent be issued.
May I make one last request. Be it known, that I am in no way
questioning anyones integrity, but with everything being equal, would
any member of this decision making process, holding a membership in
the Y.M.C.A. or affilliation with any of these organizations, disqualify
themselves from serving in this matter? This mobile home, hostel, etc.
is to be placed next to my home and property, not your home and property.
Yes , I have been known to rush in where angels fear to tread, .J
especially when I feel my rights are being infringed upon.
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Thank you for your consideration. I
Respectfully yours ,
/s/
Marion E. Lucia
Councilman Olson- questioned Mr. Liapes-can you see this women' s
home froml:the trailer?
Mr. Liapes- it is 2500' from the road. . . in the trees.
Councilman Robertson- in favor of application for one year. . .will have
to take a long look if this is going to be a continuing thing. . . they
should look for some other arrangements. . .
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Councilman Walter- noted the she hoped some more permAnent facility
bould be made available, if the hostel proves sucosssful.
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Supervisor Brandt- Mr. Robertson' s point is valid. . .however this is
something that has to get a start to see what it is going to do. . .
RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE TEMPORARY PERMIT FOR MOBILE HOME
RESOLUTION NO. 174 Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
! adoption, seconded by Mrs. Frances Welter:
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WHEREAS, F-,mily YMCA of the Glens Fallsnhas made application in accordance
with paragraph 2 (a) Section 4, of an ordinance of the Town of Queensbury
_ entitled ORDINANCE FOR THE REGULATION OF MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE HOME
COURTS IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, WARREN COUNTY, NEW YORK, to locate a
mobile home outside of a duly licensed mobile home court at property situated
YMCA CaTap Chepontuc, Bay Rd. and
WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that the facts presented in said
j application are sufficient to authorize the issuance of the permit
requested by said application, therefore be it
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RESOLVED, that pursuant to the provisions of the above mentioned
ordinance, temporary permission is hereby given to Family YMCA of
i the Glens Falls Area to locate a mobile home outside of a licensed
mobile home court for a period of one year at property situated at
! YMCA Camp Chepontuc, Bay Rd. , Town of Queensbury, and that the Building
Inspector is hereby authorized and divected to issue such permit in
accordance with the terms and condistions of said ordinance.
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Duly adopted by the following vote :
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j Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
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Noes : None
Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
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OPEN FORUM
Mr. Ronald Montesi- requested that the Recreation Dept. look into
the outlining areas of the Town for recreation areas. . .
Mr. Roberts - voiced complaint in regard to speeders on Mountain Road. . .
hazard to children and bikes. . .noted that this area is also used fr
bike races. . .
Councilman Robertson- refer- this to the Police and Arai¢ Safety
f Committees. . .
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Mr. Arthur Turnbull-
; questioned the status of the Landfill and Sewer Agency. . .
Supervisor Brandt-In regard to the Sewer Agency, there is a new
entity being formed by law, but as it stands today we are still on
! the Agency. . .commented that the Town is pursuing a referendum for
1 the Town in the late summer. . .
The residents in the district would be the only ones allowed to vote
on this and they would be paying the entire bill. . . the other residents
would not pay for this district but would pay only for the County' s
district. . .
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Mr. Turnbull- What is the progress in regard to the gates. .
Councilman Walter- the bids were turned over to---- the landfill committee
hope to have a decision by the next meeting. . .
jSupervisor Brandt- spoke on the land acquisition at the landfill site. . .
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C u i1 an a11 er- informed the Town Board about a o s ble set back I
ag nt�ie Wand lltt. . .at a recent meeting an 6avironmen a� rotecti.on
Agency official infornv�me that the Queensbu ry Landfill was on the
application of the sewer agency for a sludge site. . . .we will have to
plan for that in the future. . .
Mr. Roberts-Owner of a business on koute 9 having a problem getting
a fire permit in the Town. . . the Town of Queensbury needs a business
license. . .noted that he had been inspected 8 or 9 times.-. .requested
that he be present upon inspection , noted that either there had been a
mistake or the Fire Marshal entered his propxty without permission. . .
commented on the violations that were found. . . noted that he had looked {
at other businesses and they were also in violation but had not been
contacted by the fire marshal. . .noted that he had been haragased and
it should be stopped. . .
Councilman Olson- requested that Mr. Bodenweiser' s work sheets on this �--�
business be presented to the Town Board. . .
Mr. Bodenweiser-they are available and have been turned over the Supervisor
Brandt. . .commented on the violation of Mr. Roberts as a major violation. . .
commented that he treats everyone alike. . .reviewed the history of the
various inspections of the business. . .
Councilman Olson- stated for the record that he had violation notices
from the Fire Marshal' s Office and they have been corrected. I
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL AUDIT OF BILLS
RESOLUTION NO, 17L Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for
its adoption , seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt : I
RESOLVED, that Audit of Bills as listed on Abstract No. 78-6C and i{
numbered 791 through 796 and totaling $5560. 07 be and hereby
is approved. j
Duly adopted by the following vote :
Ayes! Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson , 'Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
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Absent : Dr. Eisenhart
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RESOLUTION TO MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION j
RESOLUMION N0, 176_ Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its
adoption, seconded by .Mr. Hammond Robertson:
RESOLVED, that the Town Bard will adjourn to executive session to
discuss the hiring of a full time recreation director.
Duly adopted by the following vote :
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
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Noes : None
Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
Executive session 9 :54 P.M.
RESOLUTION TO REOPEN MEETING {
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R_ITTION NO., 177, Introducted by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved
for its adoption�, seconded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
RESOLVED, that the Town Board meeting be reopened to regular session.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Olson Mrs. Walter Mr. Robertson Mr. Brandt
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Meeting Opened 10 :23 P.M.
(Res. 173 brought back on floor)
RESOLUTION TO HIRE FULL TIME REgREATION DIRECTOR
RESOLTTT N Nn 17-A Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for
its adoption , seconded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
I WHEREAS, the
Queensbury Recreation Commission has recommended to the
Queensbury Town Board the hiring of a full time recreation director,
and
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Recreation Commission has interviewed and
selected for their recommendation to the Queensbury Town Board a
Mr. Harold R. Hansen, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
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G RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Tan of Queensbury hereby appoints
Mr. Harold R. Hansen as the Queensbury Recreation Director at an
annual salary of $12 ,500 effective as soon as he can be physically
present and ending December 31, 1978.
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Duly adopted by the following vote:
f Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mrs.Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
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Noes : None
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Absent : Dr. Eisenhart
Supervisor Brandt- spoke on the duties of the Recreation Directr, such
as seeking out funds for the town' s programs.
f Mr. George Roop- Thanked the Town Board. . .
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Respectfully,
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Donald A. Chase, Town Clerk
SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING JUNE 30, 1978
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MEMBERS PRESENT Daniel Olson-Councilman
Frances Walter-Councilman
Dr. Charles Eisenhart-Councilman
Councilman Olson-chaired the meeting. . .Opened 10:15 A.M.
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL AUDIT OF BILLS
RESOLIJTTON NO. 17R _, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for
its adoption , seconded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
RESOLVED, that Audit of Bills as listed on Abstract No. 78-RE and
�-- numbered 799, totaling $1750.00 be and hereby is approved.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ay4s : Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Dr. Eisenhart
j Noes : None
Absent: Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
On motion the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully,
Donald A. Chase, Town Clerk