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1978-08-22 RESOLVED, that resolution no. 213 tabled on August 8, 1978 be brought back on the floor. Duly adopted by the following ovte: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Brandt i NOes: None I Absent: Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson Councilman Olson- how will the retroactive pay be received? I Supervisor Brandt- in two -bhecks. . . i Councilman Eisenhart- this is a very generous agreement. . . Councilman Olson- Very pleased that this is a three year contract. . . � I Supervisor Brandt- this is a good contract for the Town and the Police. . . reasonable contract. . . On motion the meeting was adjourned. Respectfully, Donald A. Chase Town Clerk Town of Queensbury REGULAR T014N BOARD MEETING AUGUST 22, 1978 MEMBERS PRESENT: Michel Brandt-Supervisor { Daniel Olson-Councilman Dr. Charles Eisenhart-Councilman j Mrs. Frances Walter-Councilman i Joseph R. Brennan-Town Counsel 1 MEMBERS ABSENT: Hammond Robertson-Councilman PRESS : Glens Falls Post Star, WWSC i TOWN OFFICIALS: Mr. Hansen, Mr. Liapes , Mr. Bodenweiser, Mr. Lynn GUESTS : Mr. Hess, Mr. Daire, Mr. Tabner, Mr. Barrett League of Women Voters Meeting Opened 7: 32 P.M. Salute to the Flag led by Supervisor Brandt PUBLIC HEARING Lacinda N. and Donald E. Hess- Request to rezone property on the corner of Queensbury Ave. and Dix Ave. from R-4 to C-3 NOTICE SHOWN Supervisor Brandt- opened the hearing 7: 32 P.M. requested anyone interested .� in the proposed rezoning to speak. . . J Ltr. Warren County Planning Board DATE: August 11, 1978 RE: REZONING (Rehearing) R-4 to C-3 Donald & Lucinda Ness Dix & Queensbury Avenues TO: George P. Liapes Queensbury Town Office Bldg. Glens Falls, N.Y. Gentlemen: At a meeting of the Warren County Planning Board, held on the 9th day of August, 1978, the above application for rezoning was reviewed and the following action was taken. Recommendation to: Diaapprove 94 Comment: This recommendation is in concurrence with the Town Planning Board and we wish to indicate concern over the nature of the area. Charles . Rie ert, A n stratoi Warren Co. Planning Board Ltr. 350-D Notre Dame Ext. Hudson Falls , New York 12839 August 7 , 1978 i Gentlemen: Because of the hours I am working, I find it impossible to attend the Town Meetings: _ However, I would like to express my opinion on the issue before the Board. First let me say that I am aware of the petition filed against rezoning Dix Avenue to Commercial from Residential. Just look at Dix Avenue. . . . . . it is Commerciall1l Second, the person responsible for circulating the petition has at least three small businesses that he and his family operate from their own home.,. . .without the overhead and expense that we "commercial" people have. His business enterprises include a Beauty Parlor and Gift Shop, a Garden Vegetable business, and sometimes, a "dog" business. Mr. Hess has an expensive building (the former Sealtest Building) , and he must have tenants in order to help with the overhead. However, everytime he wants to rent his place, his prospective tenants must wait for months for approval. In the meantime, they lose all interest in renting. It' s very difficult to be in business today, and it certainly would not hurt any of these "signers" of the petition to be a little bit neighborly, and help each other where we can. Believe it or not, these little business that Help PaTaTaxeess H the UneMloyment Situation Help the Insurance Business are needed. In general, these small business have helped Queensbury growl Sincerely, Margaret L. Waite Supervisor Brandt- handed the clerk a petition. . . We the undersigned homeowners and voters of Dix Avenue between Highland Ave. and Quarry Crossing are against the rezoning of Dix Ave. from R-4 to C-3. (petition on file in Town Clerk' s Office) Councilman Eisenhart- the hearing tonight is on the Hess property only. Supervisor Brandt- opened the hearing and requested anyone interested to now speak on the rezoning of the Hess property. . . P No one spoke. . . Hearing Closed RESOLUTION TO APPROVE BOARD MINUTES RESOLUTION NO. 221 Introduced by D'1r. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson: RESOLVED, that the Town Board Minutes of August 8th and 9th 1978 be and hereby are approved. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart , Mrs . Walter, Mr. Brandt i 95 Noes: None Absent: Mr. Robertson Discussion held on the Hess Rezoning Application Supervisor Brandt-I do not understand the thinking of the Town of County Planning Boards , both recommended that we rezone the entire area, when one application comes both board' s recommend disapproval, with the comments that we should rezone the whole thing. This is an application asking for what the board had recommended only asking for a small part of it. Councilman Walter- on behalf of Warren Co. and the Local Planning Board, they were looking at the problem on a wider scope in view of the fact they — are considering a comprehensive plan for the Town of Queensbury. I agree with what you are saying but this is .just a couple of words on behalf of + those boards. Supervisor Brandt- Due to the County and Town Planning Boards disapproval we will have to have a majority plus one if the parcel is to be rezoned. It seems to me both of the boards would have approved this on the general concept and added that the whole area should be rezoned. RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE REZONING FROM R-4 to C-3 OF THE HESS PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF DIX AVE. AND QUEENSBURY AVE. $F OLUTION NO, 979 Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its adoption, secon e �y Dr. Charles Eisenhart: The above resolution will be forth coming from Town Counsel and will be found on page._ ZO, Duly adopted by the following vote : Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr .Eibenhart, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Brandt Noes: None Absent: Mr. Robertson Mr. Jim Barrett- requested that his property on Dix Ave. also be rezoned commercial. . . Supervisor Brandt- you will have to file an application and go through the Town Board and County Planning Board and Town Planning Board. . . unless we rezone the entire road. . . Mr. Jim Barrett- presented the Town Board will a petition. . . Mr. Mike Brandt Queensbury Town Baord The business community of Lower Dix Avenue is vitally interested in seeing the property fronting Lower Dix Avenue rezoned commercial. Among the reasons for this interest are the following points which underscore the commercial nature of the street. 1. The businesses that operate along this street either pre-exist town zoning or have received variances. 2. Some of the commercial buildings have been there for over 30 years. f 3. The town currently taxes the business property on a commercial basis , not residential. 4. The building inspector's office knows of a traffic study showing in 1976 a daily traffic count of over 8,500 vehicles. 5. The traffic will only increase with the development of the Warren Washington Industrial Park. 6. As the street continues into Washington County, it still is lined with businesses. C7. Only business will try to locate on the street in the future. It is a desirable place for business. f 96 This is a commercial street whose zoning should be brought into compliance with its use -- past, present and future. We, the undersigned, urge your approval of the rezoning from residential to commercial all the property fronting Lower Dix Avenue within the Town of Queensbury. (Original petition on file) Councilman Walter- Basically what you are saying is what the County and Town Planning Boards have said. Noted several weeks ago that a petition was filed from resident of the area protesting the rezoning. . . of the entire area. . .no decision was made on that. . .we would like to meet with the people of the So. Qsby. area and explain to them exactly why the rezoning of the area was considered. Mr. Barrett- noted that he had some signers of his petition who also signed the first petition. . . Supervisor Brandt- noted that originally the planning board wished to rezone a 200' wide strip in some cases this split properties which caused two zones on one 'parcel. . .we wish to design a plan that follows property lines where possible. . .wished to sit down with the residents of the area and explaining this to them and then re-address ourselves to this problem. Dr. Charles Eisenhart- Does this represent a handicap to you? e Mr. Barrett-yes. . noted that everytime he wishes to expand he mustnthrough committee and pay a $25.00 fee. . .noted that if this was not made commercial and something happened and he had to leave it would not be suitable for a house, it could become a boarded up piece of property. . .it would be better as a functioning place. . . Mr. Hess- The advantage is that as a commercial piece of property we have to function under the ordinances of the town and we know the rules ect.in this case if he wants to expan-d he has to announce it months in advance. We have an interesting situation in his expansion and one member of the board, that has a conflict of interest being in the same business. If it is a commercial piece of property he can go ahead and makehis building and when he opens up a larger truck rental place that is when Mr. Olson will read about it not three or four months before. I think you should remove yourself from the hearing on Dix Avenue because you have a conflict of interest in this case. Councilman Olson-I do not have any conflict of interest in your rezoning, Mr. Barrett has not made an application yet. . .at that time I would dis- qualify myself. Mr. Hess- We discussed Dix Avenue a month ago at a public hearing and you took part in it. Councilman Olson- We did not take a vote on that. Supervisor Brandt- spoke on a late night meeting with the Planning Board discussing rezoning. . . there is no question that the Planning Board is strongly saying Dix Ave. should be commercial. Bill Fox- Owner of the Quaker Repair center-would like to have his property rezoned commercial. . .noted that the banks will not look at the property in this area. . .until it is commercial Supervisor Brandt- noted that we must inform the people so that the.tr- know what is going on. Mr. Barrett-As Mrs. Waite wrote the person that initiated this petition is running three businesses , right now, plus up the County line Road there are people selling vegetables and pet they initiate a petition to put a cog in a wheel, more or less, . .:cit seems like hypocrisy for people that are running a business to come around with a petition on people who are funning a business right on Dix Ave. and have been there for years . Supervisor Brandt- That is an illegal act, that is my job to see that we follow that up, and we will , if, I do not know who circulated that petition but that is record and we will check and see if that is the case. . . we could rezone the whole thing, we have gone through a hearing but we have made a commitment..-, to these people. . . Dr. Charles Eisenhart- Councilman-The problem with that was , the Planning Board came up with the idea of 200' back, I am not buying that, that would divide up lots . Our alternative is to come up with proposition that follows the back lines so somebody does not end up with a lot partly commerciAl and partly residential. Unknown- Do you when you will be having a meeting with the residents of So. Qsby? Councilman Olson- I would expect in September. Dr. Charles Eisenhart- my personal feeling is that this should be commercial all the way down there. . .I will not vote for splitting of the lots. ... Mr. Joseph Daire- suggested that letters be sent to the residents of the Dix Ave. area regarding the up coming meeting. RESOLUTION OF APPRECIATION RESOLUTION N0, 223-, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt: WHEREAS, Paul Cederstrom was appointed Recreation Director on June 24, 1968, and WHEREAS, Mr. Cederstrom has devoted his efforts and expertise to the organization and implementation of a comprehensive recreation program ,! for the Town of Queensbury, and f WHEREAS , Paul Cederstrom has resigned as the Recreation Director, on April 30, 1978, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury wishes to express their sincere appreciation for the outstanding leadership , initiative and dedication to the Town of Queensbury and be it further, RESOLVED, that the Town Board wishes to express to him and his family i the very best in all their future endeavors. Y Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart , Mrs . Walter, Mr. Brandt Noes: None Absent: Mr. Robertson RESOLUTION OF APPRECIATION RFSnT.TTTTnN Nn_ 4; Introduced by Mrs. Frances Walter who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt: WHEREAS , John D. LaBombard was appointed Acting Recreation Director on May 1, 1978 and WHEREAS, Mr. LaBombard has devoted his time, effort and expertise to the development of the Town of Queensbury 1978 Summer Recreation Programs , and WHEREAS, John D. LaBombard has resigned as the Acting Recreation Director on August 2, 1978, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury wishes to express their sincere appreciation for the outstanding leadership, initiative and dedication to the Town of Queensbury and be it further I RESOLVED, that the Town Board wishes to express to him and his family the very best in all their future endeavors. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs . Walter, Mr. Brandt Noes : None Absent: Mr. Robertson RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE APPLICATION FOR FUNDS FROM THE NEW YORK STATE DIVISION FOR YOUTH 98 RESOLUTION NO- 225._ Introduced bv_ Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt: WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury is eligible for funds from the New York State Division for outh and y , WHEREAS, Mr. Hansen has prepared an application for k of these monies that are available, in the amount of $1,568. 50 to establish a "Drop In Youth Center", therefore be it RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorize Michel R. Brandt, to sign the above application for submission to the New York State Division of Youth. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Brandt Noes : None Absent: Mr. Robertson (The following discussion was held before the vote on resolution no. 225 .) Mr. Hansen- reviewed the Drop in Youth Center program. . .the center to begin in October to run thirteen weeks , Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday evenings at a place yet to be determined— from 7 to 9 p.m. noted there will be two supervisors plus himself—trips , special events etc. planned. . . Councilman Walter- questioned the amount of 1,568 dollars , is this rthn on a quarterly basis? Mr. Hansen-yes. Councilman Walter- will the Town have to expend monies for the program? 1 Mr. Hansen- noted that his salary will cover the amount needed for j matching funds. . .beyond my salary there will be no additional mon&y__ expenditure. . . Councilman Eisenhart- questioned what part of Mr. Hansen' s duties are eliminated by using his time on this project? Mr. Hansen- none. . . i i Councilman Walter- will the attend.anee at this be documented. . . Mr. Hansen- noted that he felt the State will be requiring reports on the youth center—noted his previous experience in running youth centers. . . Councilman Olson- the two supervisors will be youth? Mr. Hansen- yes. . .their salary will come from the matching funds. . . the rest of the monies will be used for supplies etc. . . Unknown- questioned if there will be an programs for the y p g youth in South Queensbury? Supervisor Brandt- this will be Mr. Hansen' s reaponsibility. . .requested that if anyone had any suggestions to contact Mr. Hansen. . . RESOLUTION TO AMEND AGREEMENT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES ON LOCAL SEWER SYSTEM, WARREN COUNTY SEWER DISTRICT C-36-970 i RFSnT.t1TTnN Nn_ 92 E. Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its adoption, seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart: WHEREAS, a door-to-door survey was found advisable in limited areas of I the proposed Town Sewer District due to the inability otherwisw;to prove necessity as mandated by EPA (PRM77-8 and PRM 78-9) and WHEREAS, our existing agreement does not provide for this door-to-door survey, an amendment to our agreement with Rist Frost Associates and a grant modification request to EPA must be executed, therefore be it RESOLVED, that the Supervisor of the Town of Oueensbury be authorized to I execute amendment #2 to Contract C-36-970 with Rist Frost Associates and that the cost of this service is $7, 611. 82, and be it further RESOLVED, that it is the understanding of Rist Frost Associates and the Town of Queensbury that these additional services are eligible for Federal Aid (via EPA) and may be eligible for State Aid. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart , Mrs. Walter, Mr. Brandt Noes : None Absent: Mr. Robertson i — Councilman Walter- will this be the whole cost? Supervisor Brandt- we do not know, EPA could look at this and say we need .� more. . . RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS BgSOLU N Nn ��, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its adoption, seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart: WHEREAS, there is a surplus of funds in Contingent Account A 1940.440, and WHEREAS, there is a need for additional funds in Preliminary Sewer Expenses , A1989.440, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, to transfer $10,575 .66 from A 1940.440, Contingent Account to A 1989.440, Preliminary Sewer Expenses to cover balance due to Rist Frost Associates for services rendered. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr4 .Eisenhart, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Brandt i Noes None I Absent: Mr. Robertson A resolution approving the hiring to two senior citizens under the green thumb inc. program was discussed, Councilman Eisenhart introduced the motion but withdrew until Mr. Bodenweiser could be present to answer questions. . . RESOLTUION TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT j RESOLUTION NO. 228, Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its adoption, secon3eccr by Dr. Charles Eisenhart: WHEREAS , the Town of Queensbury has developed a functional computer program for preparation of quarterly water bills to provide accurate and timely billing of water accounts and WHEREAS, manual billing forms are exhausted but adequate computer forms are on hand, and WHEREAS, the 1978 budget contains $5 ,000. specifically designated for `. computer activity, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, to authorize the Supervisor to enter into a contract for computer preparation of water bills for a period of one year at a cost not to exceed $2,000. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Brandt j Noes : None Absent: Mr. Robertson 100 A discussion was held on resoltuion no. 228 before the vote was taken. . . Supervisor Brandt-Noted that we either had to have more forms printed for the bld'merthod ofw&ter bill.iftear move toward the computer billing. . . noted that a run was made on the last water billing— some errors were given to the computer but the computer was used to correct errors on the hand billing system. . . Councilman Olson- who prepares the data sheets to feed the computer? Supervisor Brandt- it goes directly from the meter reader to the computer. . . Councilman Olson- who will do the key punch? Supervisor Brandt- the computer contractor. . . Councilman Olson- questioned if the bills will be sent out for $2000 Supervisor Brandt- the $2 ,000 covers the data processing and key punch work. . . the contract is for a year I do not know if the dollar amount is for the remainder of this year? Councilman Walter- Is this going to be $500. 00 a run? Supervisor Brandt- I believe so. . . Councilman Eisenhart- if the billing is being done for the $2,000 what does the person do that has done this job in the past? Supervisor Brandt- It is my intention to include the next resolution, which is the bookkeeping section and consolidate .all bookkeeping and take the personnel that has been doing this function and use them for inventory con- trol. Councilman Olson- questioned if the contract with the computer firm could be broken. . .only pay for services performed. . .noted that we could at some time go to the county. . . Supervisor Brandt- noted that the County is looking at equipment now, it would certainly be a year before the county can be used. . .noted that the computer company realizes that we may not be with them next year if the county system can be used. . . Councilman Walter- As long as this is a trill period and the cost is $500.00 dollars a run for the preparation of the water bills, I will vote yes on this resolution. I do not want to get roped into something that will not work. Supervisor Brandt- Anything may not work, our hand billing did not work in the last quarter. Councilman Walter- But, for years and years it worked and I think we have to look at one error in many years . Councilman Olson-I would give this a try for one year with the stipulation that we seriously look at withdrawing from the program if it does not work. Councilman Eisenhart- reviewed the figures of computer work that was given to the Board previously. . . (Discussion on proposed resolution No. 229-computer program for J bookkeeping) Councilman Walter- How come we are dumping into this all at once? We have not used the computer be.fore� now we are suddenlv going to put water bills on and do our bookkeepingosu ,pose it' s not going to be information that we want. . .are we going to be-out the money.' . . Supervisor Brandt- All at once, I have been at this since last year to me this is not all at once. . . it has been slow, it ended up getting me to have to help reorganize the whole computer center of the county. . . i Councilman Olson- what would happen to the bookkeeper, he would become the over all bookkeeper? Supervisor Brandt- He would take over the water dept. bookkeeping and then we could use that bookkeeper for inventory control. . in the total plan it has to come to the consolidation of the water dept. with the other departments —all the things that would be handled under a dept. I could be handled under one organization. Councilman Walter- That is not entirely true, when these people are working for the water dist. , the pepple in that district pay for that. . . Supervisor Brandt- noted that a contractual relationships can be set up. noted that in the case of mechanics , they should all be working out of the same place and woirkipg on the problem at hand . . . I believe there should be a centralization of the Town, so that there is a proper flow of information and record keeping in one central area. Councilman Eisenhart- I hope in 6 mos. we have a report showing that this $5 ,000 dollars that we are spending now actually does enhance our ability and we get some return on it. Councilman Olson- I have no objection into entering into the water dept. billings on a tr381 basis to'-see how it will run, but , my own feeling is that I would rather stick with the one resolution that we authorize the water billings, I am not ready at this time to move with the total bookkeeping along with the water billings I would like to see how this program works with that firm. I do not know if law allows that bookkeeper to do such work? Supervisor Brandt- The Supervisor, by law is entrusted and responsible for all the bookkeeping for the Town including the water dept. That has come up before, once when I wanted to see some books there was an attempt to make them unavablehle, and I will get bloody mad on that one. It is explicit in the law, and it is explicitely my function. I would like to organize it in a manner that it can grow with the needs as this government grows. We have seen a lot of growth in the Town of Queensbury and in the governments of the Town of Queensbury and we better start gearing up and organize for more. We have to organize our work that we can do it with dispatch and efficiency I think that is all part of computerizing out our books and our records. We are doing the same thing in the County we have a hell of a problem in the County with real property tax assessment, the courts have mandated that the Towns will assess at 100% of assessment, by law it is not a county function it is a town function, we are trying to accommodate that through a county computer it is a very difficult problem, this will dovetail what we do on a town level- in data processing for our real property tax assessment. I am putting a lot of effort in putting a package together with the county that can accommodate our needs as well as theirs. We are trying to identify the needs of all-the departments and what the future needs are going to be in the county and we are getting on with it. It is a matter of time we got to, I believe, computerize all of our records. We can save a lot of money we can end up with a lot of information that we do not have. We are ready to move with anothel�bne, there is not a res- olution on that one yet, if we take on the bookkeeping, then we can transfer personnel to the highway dept. then the highway dept, already keeps , cost records of what they are doing, however nobody does anything with them. We do not know what it costs us to maintain a truck we do not know then a truck is worn out if we are putting excessive repairs on it. There are no cost records on this it is high time that we take the information that we have get, it into a form that we can use, and start managing with it. Councilman Walter- That is not being done in the Highway Dept. but it has been done in-the Water Dept. and that has not been computerized. Supervisor Brandt- You might also point out at one hell of an expense. With a bookkeeper full time, with a secretary full time it is hardly a model of efficiency. Councilman Walter- I have got to disagree with you on that it is one of the most efficient departments that we have . Supervisor Brandt- We certainly disagree on that one. Councilman Olson- I will go along with the water billing but, my experience with a computer is that they are fine when they are working properly and there are no errors, but once there is an error and try and remove that you have a mess on your hands. i Supervisor Brandt- Dan, we have been doing our paychecks in this town for a year on a computer and we have gotten through everyone of those problems . . . I use to spend several hours every week or every two weeks„n'othing but signing hundreds of checks , thank god that is one duty I do not have to do anymore, I can spend a little time looking at management. 102 RESOLUTION TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT REgnT.TTTTnN Nn _ ���a, Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its adoption, seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart: WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has developed a functional computer program to compile and prepare monthly financial reports from basic data provided by the Town Bookkeeper and WHEREAS, the adoption of this program will provide the Town Bookkeeper time for the centralization of all bookkeeping functions now performed by clerks in the Highway and Water Departments so those clerks can perform much needed inventory control functions , and WHEREAS, the 1978 budget contains $5,000 specifically designated for computer activity now, therefore be it RESOLVED, to authorize the Supervisor to enter into a contract for computer service for a period of one year at a cost not to exceed $3,000. The following vote was taken: Ayes : Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Brandt Noes : Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter Absent: Mr. Robertson (Motion defeated) Supervisor Brandt- it burns me, I have put a year and a half' s effort into organized bookkeeping, to organize us so that we can get into data processing to buy equipment to move- into this direction and then suddenly, My God we are leaving the horse drawn era what in the Hell are we going to do with these speeds. We better stop, to me it is an insult-I can not believe that the Town Board is that insensitive to the work the Supervisor does , but apparently they are. Councilman Walter- Last year you brought up the subject of going to "J computer and you had, I do not know what the vote was , but the coopera- tion of the Town Board to purchase a piece of equipment that we found out later we can' t use. We have agreed tonight to go in to look at the situation for putting water bills on the computer-I call that a step in the right direction. My question was before we took the vote, why are we doing everthing at once? Supervisor Brandt- We are doing one thing at a time, one is water billing, that comes up in November, for God sakes , we are talking now of bookkeeping which is a monthly function, come in and Join us take a look. Councilman Walter- I have also been into the water dept. and have seen how it works., I would invite you to spend an afternoon over there before you knock them. Supervisor Brandt- You want to go into detailon how the water department works. You have got a Water Department head who has his own contracting firm who onntime can go out and do contracts and we are not monitoring that. Councilman Walter- I do not want to get into what Town Personnel is doing on Town time. Supervisor Brandt- Why the Hell not, that is our business, that is our function, we are administrating the town personnel. If a town personnel goes out and does their own contracts while we are paying their wages then we do not know what they are doing, do we. Maybe it is time to centralize things and find out what is going on. Councilman Walter- I hope you can document what you are saying. Supervisor Brandt- I can document a lot about what I am saying and if you want to get into inventory controls , I will be glad to document what I am saying, do you want to get into that? It is time to tighten up and find out what the Hell is going on in this Town, inventory control is what we are after. Where does the gasoline go, that is fairly clean. . . Io3 Councilman Walter- My God, its another Brandt witch hunt, I cannot believe this. If this has been going on for so loo why does it � g g g Y suddenly come up into a resolution for a computer agreement? If these things are going on they should certainly have been taken care of with the personnel involved long before we are entering into an agreement, and we are getting chastised for our vote. Supervisor Brandt- I am telling you I think it is time that we get with management system that are effective and,we do not have them. By God we have to reorganize to get them. I have put a lot of effort in to get them and now you are saying, no, we do not need then, lets slow down. I do not take that lightly. That is regression not progression, Read the auditors report, they told us, we should get inventory control, what I happens to oil that we buy, does it go in someone' s personal-l., car, or does it go into the vehicles of the Town? We do not know that unless we are there when they are putting it in. If we buy parts for vehicles do they end up in our vehicles or someone elses vehicles, we do not know that. A Hell of an amount of money goes through this town for goods and services that may end up for the use of the Town and may not, in some cases we know fully well that they haven' t, that is the simple thing of inventory control and that is what this is an attempt at. RESOLUTION APPROVING THE HIRING OF TWO SENIOR CITIZENS UNDER THE GREEN THUMB INC. PROGRAM 01..11T10N Nn_ 230, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt: �I WHEREAS, Fire Marshal Bodenweiser, has introduced to the Town Board, a program funded by Green Thumb Inc. to introduce good fire life safety practices in private dwellings in the Town of Queensbury, and WHEREAS, Fire Marshal Bodenweiser wishes to negotiate with Mr. Percy Pembelton the local director of Green Thumb Inc. for the hiring of two senior citizens to survey the Town of Queensbury at no cost to the Town, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Oueensbury hereby gives permission to Fire Marshal Bodenweiser to negotiate with Mr. Percy Pembelton of Green Thumb Inc. for the hiring of two senior citizens for this program, and be it further RESOLVED, that all cost derived by this project is the responsibility of Green Thumb Inc. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Brandt Noes : None ff� Absent: Mr. Robertson I rDiscussion held on resolution No. 230. . . Councilman Olson- inquired if the people that were hired were allowed to enter private homes and conduct a fire inspection? 1 Mr. Bodenweiser- reviewed the program. . .noting that the persons hired will be doing a survey only. . .passing out forms to be filled out to '�- enlighten the residents of possible fires hazards. . .noted that he would take care in the persons that he picked for the project due to the fact they will reflect on the Town and his department—all expenses etc. will be paid for by Green Thumb. . .noted that he is working with Glens Falls Fire Dept. on this project. . . RESOLUTION TO CHANGE REGULAR MEETING DATE RE LUTON NO. 231 . Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt: WHEREAS , Primary Day falls on Tuesday September 12, 1978, which is the next regularly scheduled meeting of the Town Board, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT �! RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby changes the next Town Board meeting ` date from September 12, 1978 to September 13, 1978, at 7. 30 P.M. at the i 104 Queensbury Town Office Building, Bay and Haviland Roads , Glens Falls , N.Y. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs . Walter, Mr. Brandt Noes : None Absent: Mr. Robertson COMMUNICATIONS Ltr.Warren Co. Planning Board- re: Roland Bardin Sr. Rezoning from M-1 to u-3 on Big Boom Road. . .Approved Comment: This Board recommends approval of this Rezoning. . . Charles F. Reikert Administrator, Warren Co. Planning J Board RE 0jg&T%RgT SET PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED REZONING OF PROPERTY ON BIG RF.GnT.TTTTQK Mn 932 Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson: (Resolution forthcoming from Town Counsel , to be found on page lot .) Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs. Walter, Tyr. Brandt Noes : None Absent: Mr. Robertson -Notice- Lake George Planning Board -Zoning Amendments- hearing to be held on August 28, 1978 at 7: 30 P.M. at the Lake George Town Center MOBILE HOME APPLICATION-1 Year Renewal- Farm Help- Richard E. Bardin of E. Sunnyside Road. . . Building & Zoning Dept. Recommends approval. . . reasons for application stated. . . RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE TEMPORARY PERMIT FOR MOBILE HOME RF.SOT.TTTTO_- -33. Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson: WHEREAS , Richard E. Bardin of RD1 Glens Falls has made application in accordance with paragraph 2 (b) Section 4, of an ordinance of the Town of Queensbury entitled ORDINANCE FOR THE REGULATION OF MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE HOME COURTS IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, WARREN COUNTY, j NEW YORK, to locate a mobile home outside of a duly licensed mobile home court at property situated on East Sunnyside Road, and WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that the facts presented in . said application are sufficient to authorize the issuance of the permit requested by said application, therefore be it RESOLVED, that pursuant to the provisions of the above mentioned ordinance, J temporary permission is hereby given to Richard E. Bardin of RD1 Glens Falls, New York to locate a mobile home outside of a licensed mobile home court for a period of one year at property situated at East Sunnyside J Road, Town of Queensbury, and that the Building Inspector is hereby authorized and directed to issue such permit in accordance with the terms and conditions of said ordinance. Duly adopted by the following vote: i Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs . Walter, Mr. Brandt I Noes : None I Absent : Mr. Robertson Councilman Walter- noted that she received information in regard to the ser-inar at Monticello that the Planning Board wishes to attend. . . six people wish to attend. . .noted that most of the members of the Planning Board are new. . . RESOLUTION TO ATTEND CONFERENCE F 0 AITTnN NQ- 21A,, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mrs . Frances Walter: RESOLVED, that six members of the Town of Oueensbury planning Board be i given permission to attend a seminar at Monticello, New York, October 15-17 1978 and be it further RESOLVED, that the necessary and reasonable expenses incurred at this seminar be a proper town charge. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs . Walter, Mr. Brandt Noes: None Absent: Mr. Robertson `– Councilman Olson- requested that sometime the beginning of next week a special meeting be held in regard to the CSEA contract. . .this will give the Town Board Members to read over the contract. . . OPEN FORUM 9: 11 P.M. Mr. John Tabnor- related the the Town Board a problem with noise that was caused by the Sans Sou�d .noted that the business has burnt down. . .would like to know if the business is rebuilt if a noise ordinance could be established to protect the residents. . . Supervisor Brandt- related a similiar problem that Lake George had noted that he believed that �he:ir ordinance was not upheld in the courts . . . Town Counsel- noted that he felt there was some protection for the residents through the Zoning Ordinance. . .he would look into this . . . Other residents of the area also spoke to the Board about the noise caused by the Sans Souci. . . Joseph Daire-questioned if the computer' s will save money? Councilman Olson- It was stated that it will cost us $2 ,000 more than we are presently paying, the employees that are doing this job will be used in other areas , you are not saving money to the Town—it is an increase in costs . . .this is a trial basis. . . that is the reason I am not in favor of going with any other bookkeeping which is deeper. . . people who I have talked with have told me that you end up hiring more people . . .maybe in an over all structure , DPW along with Bookkeeping in time we may have a more functionable operation. . . It is the responsibility of the Department Heads, Town Councilmen and Supervisor to check on the operation of the Town. Supervisor Brandt- There was a bunch of criticism that was made of this Town by an Auditing firm that looked at us in preparation for bonding. It was one of the criticisms made of the Town was that there should be tighter cash controls . . . that means a cashier' s function. Most of this work toward computerization started from that audit. We found a great deal of perplexity in the bookkeeping system that was not necessary we have eliminated some of it. We handle duplicate sets of books at the water departmentw Oat really don' t make much sense. It would be nice to consolidate themAour books here. The water dept. you have to realize was �-- built before this building was , or at least before the highway building was put in here, offices were provided for over there to do these functions � f which I think was a good decision at the time. However, because of the Highway Building and Police Building we really have consolidated most of our services here expmit for water it seems crazy to me, that if someone is building and they want to get a water tap, they come here f get their building permit and then they go to the other end of town to pay for their water tap , it seems to me that is something that can all be handled in this building very easily, if we can consolidated this . I am totally fustratW I do not know the next move, I have discussed this with the Board on many occasions , I have tried to have workshops on it. Dan is saying he will consider it in a total picture how do you get to the total picture? Fran is saying we are moving to fast, Dan is saying lets move faster with the tahole thing at once I am trying to go on a step by step basis in an orderly fashion..I really am at this point absolutely frustrated, I do not know how to get there from here. I have a very strong feeling that the Town Board doesn' t give a Damn about my program or what I am trying to do and in .fact is deliberately frustrating it, you i 1 106 want to know exactly the way I feel, that is exactly the way I feel. Councilman Walter- Mike, You sound like a child who didn' t get his candy bar today, this is ridiculous . If you want to consolidate department you have to think of where they physically going to be. In this Town Building where we had to scrimp for a room for the recreation director to find a place to put evidence for the Police Chief can we handle others , no, we are going to have a building expansion program, that is what we are going to have. To put everthing under one roof, we have a building overthere . . . Supervisor Brandt- With a resolution for bookkeeping, we are going to have a building expansion program? Take the storage building out - there that we now have for the water dept.move all of the evidence out there move the storage of voting machines , move the storage of court records , that we keep in a heated air conditioned building and put them in a tin shed it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than keeping them in here. Councilman Walter- Where do you keep the water dept. equipment, you cannot put a water dept. truck down stairs in this building, where we are now keeping voting machines . Supervisor Brandt- Any time yol want to look at the [later Dept. going to contractual relatinnship whereAcontracts all its work, its high time we get looking at that too. Councilman Walter- We went along with one resolution this evening, which I think is a step in the direction to see if in fact we are going to save the town money and the centralization kind of thing will work. Supervisor Brandt- It is a sterile step, you take half the work load and put it on the computer, now what the hell are you going to do with the people? Are you going to take them half the time over here to do other duties? You can't do the program, you can't do inventory control so you have defeated it- you can say ok-you did an evaluation that cost us $2 ,000 more you could not get ride of the labor so it was a failure. Councilman Walter- You are doing inventory control right now, out of the bookkeeping dept. and we are not computerized. Do we not have a person down stairs that is working with Mr. Townley that is working with the highway dept. and the water dept. doing some kind of control work? Supervisor Brandt- An inventory of all materials owned by the town which is a state regulation that we must comply with, we are doing a fixed assets . Councilman Walter- that is not being done by computer, there is a guy down there putting the facts and figures together. Supervisor Brandt- That is right, so what is the point? I do not see how that relates to computerizing bookkeeping, I do not see it in any way. UNKNOWN- requested that the Town Board look_ #ito, the speed limit on Queensbury Avenue. . . noted high rate of speed on this road. . . Supervisor Brandt- requested that the Police Dept. review the speed limit on Oueensbury Ave. and report back to the Town Board. RESOLUTON TO APPROVE SPECIAL AUDIT OF BILLS RPSULTTTTOIN NO_ 5 _ Introduced by Mrs. Frances Walter who moved for its adoption, seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart: RESOLVED, that Audit of Bills as listed on Abstract No. 78-8C and numbered 1062 through 1064 and totaling t 88,345. 10 be and hereby is approved. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Brandt Noes : None Absent : Mr. Robertson On motion the meeting was adjourned. Respectfully, I17ajd A. Chase, Town er Y)7 RESOLUTION TO AMEND ZONING ORDINANCE TO RELASSIFY PREMISES OF LACINDA N. HESS AND CONALD E. HESS, JR. ON DIX AVENUE FROM R-4 TO C-3 RESOLUTION NO. 222 , Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its adoption, secon e by Dr. Charles Eisenhart: WHEREAS, the area immediately adjacent on the south side of Dix Avenue between Highland Avenue and the warren County-Washington County Line is presently zoned in the classification of R-4 and WHEREAS, an application was received by the Town Board from Lacinda N. Hess and Donald E. Hess , Jr. requesting the rezoning of premises of which they are the purported owners from a classification of R-4 to C-3, said premises being situate on the southwesterly corner of the intersection of Dix Avenue and Queensbury Place and being more particularly described as follows : Beginning in the southerly line of Dix Avenue �- at its intersection with the westerly line of Queensbury Avenue; running thence westerly along Dix Avenue 250 feet; thence southerly 153. 8 feet more or less , to the southwest corner of lot no. 16 as shown on a map of Imperial Heights Park filed in the Warren County Clerk' s Office; thence easterly along the southerly line of Lots No. 16 and 17 as shown on said map 100 feet; thence southerly along the westerly line of Lot No. 21 as shown on said map 50 feet; thence easterly along the southerly line of said Lot No. 21 as shown on said map 150 feet; thence northerly along the westerly line of Queensbury Avenue 213 feet r to the point or place of beginning;. Being Lots 16, 17,18,19,20 and 21 as shown on said map , and WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Queensbury planning Board and the Warren County Planning Board for recommendation and f consideration of said application and WHEREAS, the Queensbury Planning Board and the Warren County Planning Board have each recommended disapproval of the appli- cation of Lacinda N. Hess and Donald E. Hess , Jr. for rezoning of their premises from a classification of R-4 to C-3 and WHEREAS, a public hearing was held before the Town Board on August f 22 , 1978 to consider the aforesaid application for rezoning and the recommendations of the Queensbury Planning Board and the Warren County Planning B oard with respect thereto, and WHEREAS, at said public hearing all persons wishing to be heard concerning this issue were heard by the Town Board and WHEREAS, after due deliberation, it appears that the requested rezoning would take congnizance of the actual activities presently being conducted on the premises and WHEREAS, it is apparant that various premises within the existing R-4 zone on the south side of Dix Avenue are and have for many years been non-conforming uses whose existence predated the adop- tion of the Queensbury Zoning Ordinance and WHEREAS , it would appear to be nonsecsical not to rezone the premises of Lacinda N4 .Hess and Donald E. Hess , Jr. to a C-3 classification when in fact the activities being conducted thereon are activities which are in compliance with C-3 uses set forth in the Schedule of Zoning Regulations of the Town of Queensbury. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance be amended by rezoning the .following described premises from the present zoning classification of R-4 to the new classification of C-3 : Beginning in the southerly line of Dix Avenue at its intersection with the westerly line of Queensbury Avenue; running thence westerly along Dix Avenue 250 feet; thence southerly 153. 8 feet, more of less, to the southwest corner of lot no. t — 108 16 as shown on a map of Imperial Heights Park filed in teh Warren County Clerk' s Office; thence easterly along the southerly line of Lots No. 16 and 17 as shown on said map 100 feet; thence southerly along the westerly line of Lot No. 21 as shown on said map 50 feet; thence easterly j along the southerly line of said Lot No. 21 as shown on said map 150 feet; thence northerly along the westerly line of Queensbury Avenue 213 feet to the point or place of beginning_. Being Lots 16, 17 , 18, 19 , 20 and 21 as shown on asid map , and be it futther RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk be directed to cause notice of this amendment to be published as required by Town Law Section 264 and to take all other action necessary under law to cause said amendment to become effective in accordance with Town Law Section 264, and be it further RESOLVED, that the zoning map to the Town of Oueensbury be amended to show the rezoning of the above-described premises from the zoning classification of R-4 to C-3 and that the zoning map, as amended, be filed and maintained in the Office of the Town Clerk as required by law. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Brandt i Noes : None Absent: Mr. Robertson i RESOLUTION TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING REQUESTED CHANGE IN ZONING RFgnT_TTTT m NO ?-4 2-, Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson: WHEREAS , an application has been received by the Town Board from Roland E. Bardin, Sr. and Ora L. Bardin requesting the rezoning of premises situate on the westerly side of Big Boom Road from the present classification of M-1 to a new classification of R-3 said premises being identified on the Warren County tax maps as 8-141-1-12. 1 and 8-141-1-12. 3 and constituting a total of approx- imately 7. 22 acres and WHEREAS , said application was referred to the Queensbury Planning Board and the Warren County Planning Board for the respective recommendation of those boards as required by law and WHEREAS, the Queensbury Planning Board and the Warren County Planning Board have each recommended that the application for rezoning from a classification of M-1 and R-3 be granted with respect to this prop- erty and WHEREAS , it appears that the application for said rezoning is worthy of consideration. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a public hearing be held before the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury at the Town Office Building, Town of Queensbury Bay and Haviland Roads , Glens Falls , New York on the 26th day of September, 1978 at 7: 30 P.M. of that day to consider aaid ap- plication for the aforesaid rezoning and to hear all persons inter- 1 ested in the subject thereof and for such other action on the part of said Town Board with relation to the application as may be required by law or as may be proper in the premises, and be it further F_n Citi-r�J� RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk be directed to cause notice of said public hearing to be published in accordance with law and to tape any and all other necessary action required by law for the holding of &aid public hearing. Duly adopted by the following vote: i Ayes : Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Brandt