1979-01-30 SP SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING JANUARY 30, 1979
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Michel Brandt-Supervisor
Daniel Olson-Councilman
Mrs. Frances- Walter-Councilman
Hammond Robertson-Councilman
Joseph R. Brennan-Town Counsel
MEMBERS ABSENT: Dr. Charles Eisenhart-Councilman
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PRESS: Glens Falls Post Star
TOWN OFFICIALS: Mr. Hansen Ms. Patricia Tatich - Warren Co.
GUESTS: Mr. Donald Clements , Mr. Glen Greeno, Mr. Arthur Turnbull,
Mr. Kilmartin
Meeting Opened 7:42 P.M. Salute to the Flag led by Councilman Walter
PUBLIC HEARING-COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT-NOTICE SHOWN
HEARING OPENED Y:43 P.M. (Second Hearing)
Patricia Tatich- reviewed the single purpose grant program. . .program
to provide increased or better housing opportunities for low or moderate
income individuals and provide economic benefits within the community. . .
target area-West Glens Falls (map shown) area chosen due to low income
figures shown on census. . .in the proposed area 747. meet Hud requirements ,
low or moderate income 6500 to 7500 range. . . in addition to housing
rehkbilation the Town intends to install a water main on Upper Sherman
Avenue area to intersection of Dawn Drive with laterals along Leo, Howard,
Wintergreen, Arbutus, Lupine. . .Dollar limits listed: ceiling limit on
grant 500,000 dollars 360,000 dollars into housing reb4bilation,
110,000 dollars into water mains and laterals 30,000 dollars into adminis-
tration. . .The Application must be in by February 5th. . .60 days for review
if it rates high enough the . Town will be requested to place a full app-
lication. . .in detail. . .if approved the monies should be received to
--' be expended sometime in Spptember or October. . .noted that the Town .also
would attempt by matching funds or interest type loan place some monies
into John Burke Apts,needed improvements. . .
Mr. Turnbull- €=uaated why the people are not present at this hearing
to represent themselves in regard to the proposed grant. . .
Mr. Glenn Greeno- I think people appreciate something they get a-lot more
if they do it themselves. . .time afhtr time government influence in the housing
area has only led to poor showing of pawformance, not much gets accomplished,
except spending a lot of money. . .
Mr. Donald Clements- Has there been any survey made, in the area in ques-
tion,' what tEhet housing was or whether they wanted to be rehebilated?
Pat Tatich-The Town Board did this due to the interest shown in other
areas. . .
Mr. Glen Greeno-I think that the people in these areas would appreciate
more, lower taxes and a relaxation in the restriction of housing. . .
allow mobile homes. . .
Supervisor Brandt- . . .Federal taxes that people have already paid .for
. the question is whether we want to apply to bring some ,of that money,
i under the rules and regulations established by the Federal Government
to our community?
Mr. Arthur Turnbull- against all handouts unless it benefits the entire
population. . .felt that the area of John Burke and W.G. F. most crimes
committed. . .sppke on the low housing in Glens Falls , Henry Hudson. . .
Supervisor Brandt- we are not proposing to build any low income housing. .
purely rehibilation of existing housing. . .noted that John Burke is being
converted to Housing for the Elderly. . . The reofibilation of the houses
can be done as 1. a loan . .subsidized loan less interest rate then
the7, will pay from a bank 2. possibility of cleaning up hhe quit-
clein deeds in the W.G. F. Area. . .this will allow the residents to then
go before the banks and apply for loans. . .
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Mr. Donald Clements- how many people have come to you and asked for this
type of loan?
Supervisor Brandt- a very few people. -. this hearing is to inform the
residents of the rules and regulations of such a program. . .
Mr. Donald Clements- what happens if the Town takes on this committment
and the funds stop?
Supervisor Brandt- the program would stop. . .
Mr. Donald Clements- spoke on the Federal Deficit SpendIng. . .you have
asked for millions of dollars and nobody has asked for it, maybe you
in the Town know what people need but why don' t you let people come y
to you and ask for it instead of promoting it. . .
Supervisor Brandt- This is the first HUD Grant we have ever applied for ,
noted that even though we did not bring back some of the Federal Funds
bai-k to the community it did not reduce the Federal deficit last year,
it is not within out power to dictate to the Federal what it is going to
do it is only within our power to apply for the citizens fair share of the
Federal tax dollars back to their community as defined by the rules and
regulation made by Congress and the Federal Government. . .I am just as
much against the deficit spending of the Federal Government as you are
but I do not run the Federal Government. . .if we do not go after Federal
Dollars to do programs here it still gets spent. . .reviewed the drainage
grant for W.G.F. a productive project.. .
Mr. Donald Clements-. . .it is aboug time that the people that want the
rehibilation pay for it themselves. . .
Mrs. Frances Walter-Councilman- reviewed the Town Finances. . .noting
that there is no Town tax. . .the town is run on sales tax monies. . .
spoke on the appropriation of monies for projects. . .felt we might
as well take some of the monies out and do some good for the community,
why leave it there. . .
Mr. Donald Clements- Do you have any power to ask the State and Federal -
Government to stop, . . . (Federal Grants etc.)
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Mrs. Frances Walter-Councilman- as a board we probably could do that, I
wonder how far we could get. . .
Supervisor Brandt- I think local governmentsdo a good job of delivering
services and probably are scrutnized closer than any government and-get
direct input . from its citizens, and I think are the least abusive of
any other form of government going. . .
Councilman Olson- reviewed the cut backs in the Town—noted the use
of CETA Employees
Mr. Clements- questioned if he would be paying higher interest rates
at the bank due to lesser interest tates being paid by the individuals
who are on the grant program?
Supervisor Brandt- no. . .The Federal Tax monies will be paying the difference
between the Bank Loan and what 'they borrow at. . .
Councilman Olson- checking with the City, a large majority of the loans
go to the elderly and people who are working but have large families. . .
Mr. Clements- noted that from information from the Social Service
Dept. many of the families have been in substandard housing for
generations . . .
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Mr. Turnbull- if you want to subsidize, do the whole town. . .
Supervisor Brandt- noted that we can not do this under the rules and
regulations of HUD. . .
Councilman Robertson- spoke on the apathy of the residents. . .noted that
he would vote on what he felt was best for the Town . . .
I will lobby in Washington to stop programs, but as long as they exist
I think that I am doing the taxpayers a gdi&.service if I do not try
and get some of their money. . .
Mr. Clements- why does the Town of Queensbury have to compete to receive
a grant?
Pat Tatich- reviewed the program noting that there are only so many
dollars available, Hud set up this system of dispursing the
funds. . . . . .competitive system. . . .need of the community. . .
Mr. Glen Greeno- noted that this program was socialism. . .
Supervisor Brandt- asked if there was any further input. . .hearing none
the Hearing was closed. . .8:44 P.M.
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE MINUTES
RES LUTIQN NO.51, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its
adoption, se-coonded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
(� RESOLVED, that the minutes of January 23, 1979 be and hereby are approved.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF A PRE=APPLICATION FOR A NON-
METROPOLITAN SINGLE PURPOSE GRANT UNDER THE SMALL CITIES PROGRAM
R FR T.TTTTM Nn S2 Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved for its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt:
WHEREAS, the Housing and Community Development Act of 1977 provides for a
program of Community Development Block Grants, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury, New York has peepared a pre-application
for Federal Assistance in accordance with the requirements contained to
Title 24 CFR, Part 570, Subpart F of the Federal Regulations , and
( WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury, New York, has , pursuant to the Housing and
Community Development act of 1977, afforded the citizens an opportunity to
-- participate in the development of the program and held hearings which were
open to the public, and
WHEREAS, said public hearings were for the purpose of considering and
obtaining views of citizens on Community Development and Housing needs, and
for the purpose of providing the citizens with an opportunity to participate
in the development of the application, and
WHEREAS, the pre-application for said grant conforms to the application
requirements contained in Title 24 CFR, Part 570, Subpart F of the Federal
Regulations , and
WHEREAS , said pre-application required certain certifications to be submitted
along with and as part of said application, and
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury,
New York, that the Supervisor be, and he hereby is, authorized and directed
to submit a pre-application, including all understanding; and assurance
contained therein, to the fullest extent of funding allowed and determined by
the Department of Housing and Urban Development to the Department of Housing
and Urban Development, under the Housing and Community Development Act of
1977.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
Discussion held befoee final vote: Pat Tatich- noted that deeds can
be stuLghtened out—with grant monies. . .
Councilman Olson- questioned what would happen if the monies were
not expended. . .is there a time limit? Pat Tatich- you have an 18 month
period to use the monies. . .Pat Tatich- I forsee that you will have more
application than monies to spend. . .
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RESOLUTION TO IMPLEMENT RECREATION PROGRAM REGISTRATION AND REFUND
POLICIES
RESOLUTION NO. 53 Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
WHEREAS, the Recreation Department of the Town of Queensbury now offers
Recreation Programs for the residents of the Town of Queensbury and
WHEREAS, Harold R. Hansen, Recreation Director has prepared a report
"Program Registration & Refund Policy", dated 11-16-78 outlining the
need for such guidelines and
WHEREAS, the Recreation Commission of the Town of Queensbury has read
the above mentioned report and has approved the Recommendations con-
tained therein, therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorize the Recreation Director to
Implement the program Registration and Refund Policies as recommended
in the report.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Ers. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
Discussion held before final vote: Mr. Hansen- explained the basic
system. . .guideline for refunds. . .Councilman Walter- asked that a policy
be set up for large registration fees to be paid in two installments. . .
Mr. Hansen agreed. . .
RESOLUTION.-10 ADVERTISE FOR BIDS FOR THE SALE AND REMOVAL OF SCRAP METAL
RESQUITTON 5[_,_,Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved for its
a option, seconded by Mrs. FranceelWalter:
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has expressed a desire to go out for
bids for the sale and removal of Scrap metal from the Queensbury-Glens
Falls Landfill, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk-Director of Purchasing solicit sealed bids
for the sale and removal of scrap metal from the Queensbury-Glens Falls
Landfill and that the following notice be published in the official news-
paper of the Town:
NOTICE TO BIDDERS
The undersigned shall receive sealed bids for sale of -,the following item:
A-G.F.L. 1-79 SALE AND REMOVAL OF SCRAP METAL
Detailed specifications may be secured from the undersigned at the Town of
Queensbury Office Building, Town Clerk' s Office, Bay and Haviland Roads,
Glens Falls, New York, during regular business hours.
All bids must be submitted on proper bid proposal forms. J
Bids will be received at the Town of Queensbury Office Building, at the
Office of the Town Clerk up until Tuesday February 13, 1979 at 5 :00 P.M. ,
Bids will be opened and read aloud at 7:30 P.M. at the Regular Meeting
of the Queensbury Town Board held at the Queensbury Town Office Building,
Bay and Haviland Roads , Glens Falls, New York on February 13,1979.
The Town Board reserves the right to reject any or all bids.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: Dr. Eisenhart
Supervisor Brandt- I have been told by Mr. Coughlin, that there have
been other vendors who have since we have gone to bid expressed an
interest in bidding, since we do not have to accept bids tt was
recommended by him that we readvertise. . .one vendor came to us and said
if I had known that, you. would not have to load me, I would load myself
and pay more money. . .
RESOLUTI6NTO ADVERTISE FOR BIDS FOR PURIFICATION MATERIALS FOR THE
WATER DEPARTMENT FOR 1979
RFSOT_iTTTnN Nn ss , Introduced by Mr. ";Roberton- who moved for its
adoption, seconded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
WHEREAS, Thomas Flaherty, Water Superintendent of the Town of Queensbury
has asked the Director of Purchasing to advertise for bids for purifica-
tion materials for 1979, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Director of Purchasing solicit sealed bids for
purification materials for the Water Department for 1979 and that the
~' following notice be published once in the official town newspaper:
NOTICE TO BIDDERS
NOTICE is hereby given that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury
will receive sealed proposals on the following materials for the Water
Treatment Plant for the year 1979:
1. Liquid Chlorine, approximately 7 tons , Specification 79-1
2. Liquid Caustic Soda, approximately 20 dry tons, Specification 79-2
3. Liquid Alum, approximately 87 dry tons, Specification 79-3
A complete copy of the specifications will be available in the office
of the Town Clerk.
Bids will be received up to 5:00 P.M. on the 13th day of February, 1979
at the Town Clerk' s Office in the Queensbury Town Office Building, Bay
and Haviland Roads , Glens Falls, New York, 12801.
Bids must be submitted in sealed opaque envelopes marked with which
specification that they are bidding and there shall be submitted with
such bid a certifiaate of Non-collusion as required by Section 103D of
the General Municipal Law.
Bidders may bid on any one item or all items if they so chose.
The Town Board will meet at the Town Office Building at 7:30 P.M. on
the 13th day of February, 1979 at which time the bids will be opened
and read aloud.
The Town Board reserves the right to reject any or all bids.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: Df.. Eisenhart
COMMUNICATIONS
Ltr. D.O.T. reg: Lights on Aviation Road on file
Ltr. League of Women Voters- re: vacancies on the Warren County Planning
Board. . .on file
Supervisor Brandt- requested an executive session to discuss the Highway
payroll for the past two weeks. . . payroll $16,272 overtime ran
$8,550. 00
OPEN FORUM 9:08 P.M.
Mr. Turnbull- noted that he felt the men ran the machines with blades up
to accumulate overtime
Supervisor Brandt- questioned the use of two men in a pickup truck on
the roads at night and on weekends. .one personzcould drive a pickup
truck adequately. . .
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Mr. Kilmartin- what do you do if somebody does not pay their water rent?
Councilman Robertson- If they are over 90 day the water is turned off. . .
Mr. Kilmartin- I made application a year ago and made a deposit . . .no
water yet. . .noted that an individual on Walkup Road received water before
he did. . .noted paying water tax for seven years. . .
Supervisor Brandt-spoke on the Water deficit. . .what we have to do is
make the best use of that money to serve as many people as possible
for the dollar investment, in time we have to serve every single
person in that district. . . I will work hard to get you service as I
will everyone else in the district. . .
Supervisor Brandt moved for an executive session to discuss highway-
payroll, seconded by Councilman Olson. . . the entire board agreed. . .
On notion the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully,
Donald A. Chase
Town Clerk
TOWN BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY 13, 1979
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Michel Brandt-Supervises
Daniel Olson-Councilman
Dr. Charles Eisenhart-Councilman
Mrs. Frances Walter-Councilman
Hammond Robertson-Councilman
Mr. Joseph Brennan-Town Counsel
PRESS: Glens Falls Post Star, WBZA
GUESTS: League of Women Voters
TOWN OFFICIALS: Mr. Garb , Mr. Flaherty, Mr. Liapes , Mr. Shenk
Meeting Opened 7 :33P.M. Salute to the Flag led by Councilman Robertson
(Councilman Olson was not present during the first part of this meeting)
BID OPENING
Supervisor Brandt- requested the opening of the bids as advertised.
BID OPENING-WATER DEPARTMENT PURIFICATION MATERIALS-NOTICE MOWN
Donald A. Chase-Town Clerk read the following bids:
INTEL Chemicals and Metals Corp. Caustic Soda $1.155 per cwt.
P.O. Box 420 Liquid Chlorine $ .16#
428 Glen Street $500.00 refundable cyl. deposit
Glens Falls , N.Y. 12801 no non collusive attached
MONARCH Chemicals , Inc. Liquid Chlorine $12.00cwt.
P.O. Box 176 $400.00 container deposit
Utica, N.Y. 13503 Non collusive attached
HOLLAND Chemical Inc. Liquid Aluminum Sulfate
Howland Avenue $120.95 per net ton
Adams , Mass. 01220 Non Collusive attached
Councilman Eisenhart- requested that the bids be turned over to Mr. Flaherty
for his recommendation. . .agreed upon by the entire Town Board
BID OPANG-SCRAP METAL-QSBY. GLENS FALLS JOINT LANDFILL-NOTICE 'SHOWN
Donald A. Chase-Town Clerk read the following bids:
C.F. VanHall
77 So. Franklin St. $16.00 per ton
Saratoga Spa, N.Y. 12866 Will load own truck non collusive attached