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1976-11-09 WHEREAS, the purpose of this event is to judge the photo contest entries, sponsored by the Festival Committee, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, to proclaim November 7, 1976 as Balloon Festival Day, in the Town of Queensbury, and be it further RESOLVED, to encourage participation of the public in saluting all the balloonists and workers that made this event possible. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson,ltr. Brandt Noes : None Absent: None _ On motion the meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Donald A. Chase, Town Clerk. j REGULAR MEETING NOVEMBER 9, 1976 MEMBERS PRESENT: Michel Brandt- Supervisor Daniel Olson-Councilman Robert Barber.-Councilman Harold Robillard-Councilman " Hammond Robertson-Councilman Joseph Brennan-Town Counsel PRESS: Tri County News, Glens Falls Post Star GUESTS: Mr. Sweet, Mr. Turnbull OFFICIALS: Lloyd Demboski, Thomas Murphy, Floyd Martindale, Betty Eggleston Meeting Opened: 7:37 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING BACKHOE-LOAN HEARING OPENED 7: 37 P.M. NOTICE OF HEARING READ. Supervisor Brandt- requested in-put from the public. . . No one spoke Councilman Robertson- basically this is long term financing of a major piece of equipment for the water dept. something that can not and should not be asad as a one year operating cost, therefore we must go through the formalities of borrowilhg;• the monies for a long period of time. Councilman Olson- Are you proposing a five year note? Councilman Robertson- I believe that is whet is proposed. Councilman Olson- noted that the backhoe was put out to competitive bid. . .best bid for what was requested. Requested the Supervisor to seek' out the best interest available. Supervisor Brandt- Hearing Closed. 7 :39 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING BAY ROAD RECONSTRUCTION COST INCREASE LOAN HEARING OPENED 7:39 P.M. NOTICE OF HEARING READ. Councilman Robertson- This is an extension of cost incurred by the Town due to the reconstruction of Bay Road when we initially entered into the project the information that we had available to us indicated an A .J amount of $70,000 would be sufficient to relocate the water lines out of the main right of way of Bay Road. Due to some. changes that were made after the estimate was made the cost"-was approximately $115,000 dollars,we now have to go back and increase our loan. Supervisor Brandt- This also includes the burying deeper of 1000 foot of mains. Hearing Closed . 7:41 P.M. RESOLUTION REGARDING BACKHOE RESOLUTION NO. 240A. Forth coming from Bonding Attorney, on paged , RESOLUTION NO. 241, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its/- I ado Ron, secon by Mr. Hammond Robertson: Forth coming from the Bondirg-Attornies and to be found on page RESOLUTION REGARDING BAY ROAD RECONSTRUCTION RESOLUTION NO, 242 Intr©duced `-by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved for its a oa ption,seco_aff by Mr. Hammond Robertson: ary Forth coming from the Bonding Attornies and to be found on page IS-) Councilman Robertson introduced a resolution to amend appropriations within the Queensbury 'Consolidated Water Dist. Councilman Olson seconded the resolution. Supervisor Brandt- called for-discussion-I am not aware of the necessity of the transfer,my only hesitation is that *it s, easy to transfer surplus to other accounts and spend them if there are surpluses, it would be nicer to have surplusaew I think we have to be careful not to spend them on things that are not absolutely .essential,especially when deficits exist. I do not know the rational for this. Councilman Robillard- If you have a question as Chief Fiscal Officer I think we should table this proposal. Councilman Robillard- withdrew his motion Councilman Olson- withdrew his second Supervisor Brandt* table the motion: . . TO RESOLUTION APPOINT ACTING SARGEANT RESOLUTION Fg 243, Introduced by Mr Harold Robillard who .moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Hammond Robertson: WHEREAS there it an opening for Sargeant in the Queensbury Police Department, and WHEREAS, Gilbert Schl.ierer ~Chief of-Police has made known to the Board that David Comstock is qualified to fill such position, therefore be it RESOLVED, .that this Board does--hereby appoint David Comstock to the position of acting Sargeant effective pay period 'Novembor °12,1976 at an annual salary of $9,970.00. Duly adopted by the following vote Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, 'Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr, Brandt Noes: None Absent: None Councilman Barber introduced $...resolution-to abolish the Queensbury Conservation Advisory Counz 1. due to the fact 'it is a duplication of effort. I feel that it is a function of the Planning and Zoning Boards., and if we allow the Conservation Advisory Couwvdl to continue we will . have a bureauttatic boondoggle that will create A number of hardships for our residents. Presently the Town Planning Board and Zoning Boards are adequately prepared to handle and -cope with the standards of the ENCON Department ,pretaining to conservation of our Town. " I 144 ' Councilman Robillard• I would like additional time to study the matter this is new to me, I know we have the council and have failed to fill the vacancies . I would like to check out the legal ramifications eeetag triathtkivavas established by a resolution and any matters that are pending before the couneLl if any, that we have the records. Councilman Barber- As far as I are hasmbeenrnon active for the Board. . .it is legal to abolish the nine months to a year almost. Councilman Olsnn- I would like to have it tabled until the next regular meeting. Supervisor Barndt- Understand Councilman Barber's anxiety in this matter, &T&ehe*&ftAat&onm&fiythat function has merttt. a Advisory Council could give us good input in the planning function tZ 'not in a reOiew.` function, it is important to work out the proper utilization of that committee. Councilman Barber-reviewed the authority of the committee wished the members of the board to take serious consideration of their elimination. . . Councilman Robillard-question the Supervisor- Note from Patricia Gates, in .this note it states "' 'I thought that since the Town Board will not cooperate with you that I would write this letter to Dr. Reid" indicating that some• proposals have been set forth to the Town Board to correct a situation of drainage 'on•Dikon Road. To my kno*ledge-there 'has been no proposal put forth by you or the highway Dept. I do know we:-have met on the matter. I know that you have had conversations that you have reported to 'this Town Board about two°weeks 'ago thht you-met with a del4gation over there,I just do not understand it. Supervisor Brandt- I can see that comment being critical of me because I ' got to 'that`meeting deveral bouts late, and after about 25 people -have left the meeting. I do not see how anyone could be critical of the Tom Board in this matter, the Tomn Board has been involuted in doing a study of that problem;we are trying to document what needs to he done there and what cant be done. The Town Board has asked .for a legal opinion on this and I do not think it is a proper criticism. OPEN FORUM Mr. Daniel Sweet- Against the paying of drainage in the Fort Amherst Garrison Road areas and voiced opposite to those in that area having their leaves picked up. . . Mr. Barber-The drainage problem is not limited solely to Ft. Amherst and Garrison Road. It is Ifmited' to-Westland, and the -whole Quaker Road basin which is a very substantial portion•:,of our eosin. ' I asked two weeks ago to have a television analyses of the pipes. If you read ` the town minutes you will see that I have said the entire Quakers toad basin and the Westland areas, Stewart Road, Upper Sherman Ave. has a drainage problem. Whether it is a Special Tax district or a Town charge, we have got to bite the bullett- and have a study as to how we -are going to 'meet the problem. Mr. Brandt-commented on the leaf pick—up in the area noting that he felt that we should provide 'services equally everywhere in the town. .If leaf pick-up is being done, that should be reviewed: Mr. Robillard-stated that he felt the Town Board feels the same way, everyone should be treated equally in the general tax. Mr. Barber-stated that .the .highway committee requested the highway superintendent not to perform that service. Letters were to be sent to residents of that area stating that the pick-up would not be continued. Mr. Turnbull-asked what services does the town provide. He said he had no street lights, no town water and no sidewalks and the county did most of the snow plowing, yet his taxes are going up. Mr. Barber-commented an the fact that the sales tax° revenues to the town had been' cut thus creating higher taxes. Mr. Brandt-When we- see a decrease in revenue we have to decrease our costs. That may mean a decrease in services. TRANSCRIPT OF A PORTION OF THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 9, 1976 (SUBJECT: CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL) Councilman Barber-I would like to introduce a resolution to abolis the Queensbury Conservation Advisory Council, due to the fact that it is a duplication of effort which I feel is a function of the Planning and Zoning Boards. If we allow the Conservation Advisory Council of the Town of Queensbury to continue, we will have a bureaucratic boondoggle that will create a number of hardships for our residents, in the foreseeable future. I feel presently the Town Planning Board and Zoning Board are adequately prepared to handle and cope with the standards of the Department of Environ- mental Conservation pertaining to conservation of our Town, whethe it be wetlands or whatever. I so make that motion. Supervisor Brandt-Would anyone like to second that motion? Councilman Robillard-I would just like to say that I would like additional time to study the matter, this is something new to me. I know we have the council and we failed to fill the vacancies. I would also like to check out the legal ramifications, seeing this was established by a resolution, and any matters that are currently pending if any before the council , that we have their records befo e we abolish the commission. Councilman Barber-There, as far as my knowledge is concerned, then are no matters confronting the commission at this time, or the Council. It is also within my grasp that it is perfectly legal for us, this Town Board, to abolish this function. It has been non- active for the last nine months to a year almost, and if we are going to make the Planning and Zoning Boards function properly wit respect to environmental conservation restrictions, pertaining to Article 12F of the General Municipal Law, we should in fact, aboli h this function now and put this proper capability within the Planni g and Zoning Boards. Councilman Olson-I would agree with what Councilman Robillard said I would like to have it tabled, Bob, until our next, we move that we table this resolution of yours, until next regular meeting and bring some action on it at that time, or maybe further discussion. Councilman Robillard-I agree, Bobby, with your philosophy when it comes to the bureaucratic slow down of progress and that some of the efforts are duplication, but I would rather approach this on a slower basis, rather than, I am not saying. . .I do not want to be part of a haste action, this evening. Supervisor Brandt-Ok, there is a notion to table, is there a second on that motion? Councilman Robillard-I think there was a motion. Councilman Olson-It was introduced by Bob to. . . Councilman Robillard-Bob, has made a motion, I do not believe there was a second. Councilman Barber-I do not have a second. NY 43 PAGE 2. Supervisor Brandt-I also want to say that, I think, that I can understand Bob's question and anxiety about setting up too many bureaucracies to, subject, to any body coming to the Planning or Zoning Board of Appeals too, and trying to eliminate that function I think has merit. However, I think, that this Advisory Council could potentially have some, could potentially give us some good input in the planning function if it was not in a review function. I think, what is important here, is to work out the proper utili- zation of that committee. I think that in history, that they have done a very good job in the review of the Hercules dump site, sludge site. I think it would be a shame to slap them in the face with that history. I would like to look at that carefully before we ac on it. I think we have to act either to fill its ranks or refill its ranks and make it functional, or abolish it. I think we have to address ourselves to either one or the other, and very soon. Councilman Barber- Well , really, I, you know, I am not trying to slap them in the face, I think they did a very, very fine job in respect to the Hercules application as far as anything else in the Town of Queensbury, I think there is a duplication of effort. I do not feel that they should have a review of land use. I think we have got that problem right now with the Planning and Zoning Boards. I do not feel that they should have the review of wet- lands, I think that belongs within the Planning and Zoning Boards. There are a number of other things that the law outlines, that the should have regulatory responsibilities for and I do not think we want to have that. I think we have enough bureaucratic mechanisms within this town where by any body coming before this town for a permit should not be delayed any further. The law explicity state that this Advisory Council shall have the following authority, he shall keep an inventory and map as defined in Section two hundred and thirty nine of this article of all open areas within the munici- pality for a plan of obtaining information pertinent to proper utilization of such open lands including lands owned by the State and any other municipality within the State or particular munici- pality thereof. It shall keep adequate records of those lands and action pertaining thereof, it is very, very extensive it goes on and through, and through, and through and it is review power. I do not feel that we need this within our, within our Town at this time. I hope, that if I do not get a second tonight, I ,just hope that this Town Board takes very, very serious consideration of my motion. It has been something that has been delayed for nine months to a year and now it is coming to a head and all of a suddeTL we want to delay it for some more review. I think, we have had plenty of time for review, but I am willing to extend it until the next meeting. Supervisor Brandt-Ok, any other comments? Mr. Turnbull-reviewed the growth of the• town, questioning why ten years ago we were solvent and now that we have the growth. we are no longer solvent. Mr. Barber-The problem lies, solely in our past and not with our present. The problem ties with the administtatoro of this town government during the last ten years. They said they would save tax dollars by using the sales tax revenues. Well the sales tax revenues are not there anymore. If we want those same pleasures we have got to pay for them. The supervisors of the past instead of increasing taxes accordingly to the services that were provided to our town, which they should have done, we would not be in this dilemna today.,, They.,took, the sales taxes that weeecon"gg in to reduce taxes. If we had those monies available from the county, we would not have an increase this year. Mr. Robertson-Bob has laid it -very basically in a nutshell bec4tuse there are two things that 'we have to consider, first what has the coats of everything gone to in the last seven years, and the fact does remain that the town taxes have not gone up. in the last seven years. . Two.,of our ,biggest departments are -thd Highway department and the employees of the 'Town Office Building. We can not .cut the highway pro ram. Where do we cut the budget so that there will not be a , tax increase Councilman_ Barbex-,reiterated two facts in, the cutting .of the Police Dept. as Supervisor Brandt proposed. 1. The Town Can not contract with the County for Police Protection 2. If we did away with the Qsby. Police the County would have to , spend more on at least five more men and two more cars etc. raising the county taxes. . . If we hold the line._this year and there is, no sales tax revenues coming in ,your county taxes would go tip? Supervisor Lloyd Demboski-I think your basic comcepts are 1. The reason you are not ' balancing your town budget is the shortage of revenues in the Town Budget„because of the shortage in the anticipated sales tax revenue that has comeback to the town over the years . . In 1967 the Warren Co. Board of Supv. enacted the 'County Sales tax 3% over the State tax of 4Ta , resolution 234 of 1967. . .the sales tax adopted by the county_w4s to support county services with the anticipation of me:.dicadd being enacted 'by. the State ;Legislature.- An amendment to ,tt�a}t reso ut .on in 1960 tuditate$ ;that the Sales Tax revenue of 390 was collected Xn the County of Warren was to be used to balance the Count.yp•.budgget,,reduce the County Tax to each individual town. It was never 'thi anttcipation, as I understand the law of that sales tax, that there was ever be any surplus left in any fiscal year to revert back to the town. I have served on the board in whit y4u .serve n ,Mr. Barber- for five years and I have seen the sale$ t� ;monies coming back I think that was not the intent of the law in 196T'''0 4 .1968 as_to how sales tax, revenues were to be expended. You can`put it this way very simply as far as I at concerned, You can use sales tax revenues as &. surplus to revert back to the Town and lowers the Town charge by a 1.50 a "thousand or you can increase your county. tax.,in the ;Town of_,Queqpabury by 1.50 a thousand.,. .it would be very foolish df any town -to anticipate any increase fn sales taxes to towns. . . Councilman Barber- .traditionally that we did reduce our tax base as the result 'of anticipated sales tax. Supervisor Lloyd Demboski-Prior to the Sales tax, the Town Board in the Town of Queensbury reduced taxes. Councilman Barber- If we 'want to continue the same services, the residents of the Town will have to pay for them because of the reduced sales tastes to the Town. Supervisor L1oyd, Demboski-1 suggest .to, you_Mr. Barber ,to attack, the reason for the decrease of sales tax revenue in the Town of Queensbury, it is nothing you :have done herd Qr .the County Board of Supervisors has done` it is the increased.cost in medica i7 and medicare and the social services program. Mr. Daniel Sweet- questioned if Supervisor Brandt could not go tb,:rythe County and request that a law be forumlated that would require people on welfare to go to work. . . Supervisor Brandt-That in fact has been attempted many time with not too great a success . . . there have been programs mandatdd by the 146 Federal Government and State Government that have been a heavy burden on the County Level , I think there are some things on the County Level *_h1t can be triWo. . .not:y happy with social services and the social services administrator has a company that he rµns other than being a mull time employee of handling a 6 million dollar budget, I think that that 10 something that on a county level we damn Weil better address outselves to. Wherever you can avoid dupliaation of services we need to.. Open,-If orum Closed . RESOLUTION' APPOINTING FIRE MARSHAL SOLUTION N0, 24,4, Introduced -by Mr. ,Robert Barber who moved for its y adoption, 'seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson: WHEREAS, there now exists a vacancy in the Office of Fire Marshal of . the Town of Queensbury due to the resignation of Roger G. Hewlett, now therefore be . it RESOLVED, that, pursuant to Secti 24+ Subdvision ,I a) a4d Section 130, Subdivision 5, thst. Mr. N9x` rt ' Bodenweiser of Lake George Road, Queensbury be and he hereby' is appointed to the position of Fire Mar* tl as establ shed by toe Town of Queensbury Ordinance No. 40 "Ordinance ` Adopting a Fire Preventon, Cgde,. Establishing the Position-of Fire . Marshal and Defining his, Powers and Duties." effective pay period November 12, 1976 at an annual sa�,arr of $4500.00. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt Noes: None Absent: None Mr. .Turnbull- qud$t om what. Mr. Bodenweiser qualifications for. the. appoint- ment? tioux�oi �m Barber- he sorxe0 5 fdur year terms as Fire .Its ar the 1 Tom -of l Cing$ton, i ten$ive building experience .and not " e' tr in , }g. ohoQls... .tte was the recommendation of the Fire `ttgA 'of s the _T �o Q04 em b ury BUDGET FQR 197 T Councilman � bi410,1 A ljaxd reov d fox, a 670,"decreaso. in`th s +tY gs Qf e four cotmGilmen. Stro-zly .l°at .s that they monies fo t Sr . should, stay,.it :faotit should pay much more than .it does pa�.. Councilat . Robertson seconded the proposal. Vote ou proposal= yes-Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. ' Robillar4,,, ber stn Mr. Brandt ' TO VSTICES A 1110.1 ounc maillard- 'moved that the Justices,be decrease by 6% 00ted' that this was also a part time position. ' Councilman Barber- seconded the proposal. Vote on proposal- yes-Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robtllard', Mr. Robertson Mr. Brandt SUPERVISOR A 1220.1 Supery i. 4r4adt- move _that the salary be decrease b , 6%, noted that we ran for position at a salary that was stated and we should m#iutaln that. Councilman Robertson-, 'seconded the pxopogal. I basically feel ver , y strongly that the Supervisor of the Town has been grosswly underpaid fpr the demands that we put on that person who ever he may be. Because of the actions that we ha taken .,in the Councilmen's salary and Justices I will second the proposa;. Vote on proposal-yes-Mr. Olson, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt No-Mr. Barber F ,4 R Councilman Robertson- questioned if the Budget Administrator. A1340 be placed in the Supervisor' s Budget A1220. . . this is the function of the Supervisors office. Supervisor Brandt-In reading Audit and Control manucls it is really our discretion which way we want to go. The Budget Administrator is not • Comptroller. I tried to put 'it *in as a line item to lead us into • comptrollers function in the future. I would like to leave`it in as • line item but it is not that important as far as I am concerned. Noted the Budget Administrators job was a stronger position he &*ersees the budget. . . Councilman Olson- Commented that he does not wish to discredit Mr. Merrill the present Bookkeeper Just concerned with the amount of monies are set up in the budget for the position of budget administrator. Supervisor Brandt- He does nothing for me personally, or for my bustincss his work is purely for the Town of Queensbury. Councilman Olson- My point is that it is your appointment. Councilman Robertson- moved for the funds in A1340 be moved to A1220. Councilman Barber- . seconded the Motion. Vote on the proposal-yes-Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robert- son No-Mr. Brandt . TOWN CZ Donald A. Chase-Town Clerk- requested„the floor. . . Supervisor Brandt- Mr. Chase has the floor. . . Donald A. Chase-requestdd that the raise for Town Clerk be deleted” and the salary be„left ;as, it was in 1976. Councilman Robillard.-I realise what you are saying and I know how well you perform your task, but I think if this Town Board accepted this motion it would be doing a .discredit to ,the position, which you adequately fill. -�- not only 40 `hours a week,-here --ot 60, •but •al'sorthose weekends at home, Saturday and Sunday which are very, very important. I get many phone calls from people in this Town who say thank God ,.for Donald Chase. I think you do an exceptional job you have taken on additional ditties of director of purchasing this year and next year on a larger scale. I think this board would be very remise-=if . it went back on your salary. Councilman Barber- noted that 10% was not ,truly indicative of what we certainly should pay -you. . .Will not concider a cut. :. Councilman Olson- You have not been paid what you should have been paint and this might be a catch up. . . you well deserve the raise that we have placed in the budget. Supervisor Brandt- 'With the increased resgnnsibilities that are being worked out in purchasing I think that you should be compensated for -that, you are preforming more functions .than you have in the past and you should be awarded fort. ATTORNEY Councilman Robillard- questioned the 2,000 for fighting the A.P.A. how. suawanffill to do yaulfeel - that this is going to be and just what kind of a game plan do the towns have? Noted that it is going to be very costly to fight the A.P.A. Supervisor Brandt- I made tkat proposal some time ago, there is in the budget 2,000 dollard available if we so decided at a later date, to do that otherwise it would be a surplus item. -I have personally gone to- thb' A.P.A. and looked in more detail at Ray. Brook and- to see what changes they have made , they have made. 8i6bstat.tial changes with the new administration I would like to reserve judgement on that at this point but I see th"gag ons that the agency is in fact resolving some of the problems that I saw, I am not sure I want to be involved with. litigation at this time. Councilman Robillard-moved to decrease A 1420 from 19,000 to 17,000 148 if we ,decide to go into a court battle we will have -to look into contractual Councilman- Robertson- seconded the motion. Vote on the proposal-yes-Mr. Olson, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson. no. Mr. Barber, Mr. Brandt POLICE Supervisor Brandt-suggested cut backs in the Police budget-rioting the elimination of escorts. to the banks for business in. the Town. . . placing one man in the car in the day and two at night reducing the budget accordingly. Councilman Olson-commented that he felt that the business pay a lot in taxes and deserve the service of an escort. Councilman Robillard- -we could establish the -practice of having our . patrol car follow the business to the bank. . . I do agree with the one man in the day time but place the extra men "on at night. Councilman Barber- Look into Federal Programs for Jtw.enleYouth Programs they pay W to 95%. of the Police Officers Salary. . . Supervisor Brandt- Motion to drop the personnel services by 30,000 dollars Councilman Barber- seconded the proposal Vote on the proposal-yes-:Mr. Brandt no-Mr. Olson, Mr. Beth tarXT.MBobillard Mr. Robertson BOARD OF HEALTH Councilman Robillard- motion to ctit 'by 6% thzl 'Personal Services Councilman Barber- seconded the motion. Vote art proposal-yes-Mr. .Olson, .Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson .. Mr. Brandt Supervisor Brandt-motion to ,place another 1,000 dollars for .a. Glean, up of lice in the school. . . Councilman Robillard=question the legality of this expense . . .does it belong in our budget 4*� the union Free School Dist. Budget. . . I do not feel that it belongs in, the Town Budget. Died for lack of second. SUPT. OF HIGHWAYS . . . Councilman-Barber- moved - for a 6% to be taken from .1 for the Supt. of Highways Salary. Councilman Robillard- seconded the motion for sake of discussion Councilman Olson- requested that the 6% be left in because this is a full time ,job. . . � Vote oui fhe proposal-yes-Mr: Barber ; no-Mr. Olson, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt - PUBLICITY --� Councilman Robertson- moved to reduce A6410 by-1590 'dollars .Opera-3,000 Balloop .Festival 500. 00 and Chamber of Commerce 500.00 Councilman Robillard- second- for sake of discussion. Requested that the 1500, dollar .requested be again� reduced. by 500.00 cutting out the Chamber of Commerce . . . . the Chamber ©f Commerce.. should be self supporting Councilman Robertson- I will accept that amendment. Councilman Robillard- Supervisor Brandt if you can get the Warren Co. Board of Supervisor' s to support the Balloon Festival more thin perhaps we can save another 500.00 dollars. Supervisor Brandt- I think that is logical and can be done. Councilman Robillard- If you can convince the County to spend more on the Balloon FestivalJthen our 500.00 dollars could be put in surplus. CouncilmanBagrber- wished to amend the proposal to read g0®8uknipgbt&city. Supervisor Brandt- I do not think we should -be funding the Opera Festival eigher. Notion of 3500 dollard for the Publicity. Vote on Proposal -yes- Mr. Olson, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson no-Mr. Barber, Mr. Brandt YOUTH Mr. Olson asked that 2000.00 be cut from the equipment budget of the recreation program, Mr. Robertson seconded it. Mr. Robillard objected to the lack of interest of the Recreation Commission in regard to attending the hearing on the budget: He requested a reduction of another 1000.00 from the equipment fund. Mr. Olson accepted the motion of cutting another 1000.00 from equipment. Mr. Barber also objected to ,the lack of .input from the committee. Suggested an .amendment to reduce the total to 35,000.00 Mr. Olson requested to see the recreation budget. Councilman Robillard- moved for 3,000 be dropped from the contractual,' eliminating the road repairs. . . Councilman Olson-requested a vote on dropping just 3,000 from the equipment portion of the budget. Vote on Proposal-yes-Mr. Olson, Mr. Robertson . no-Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Brandt Councilman Robillard- moved to cut the equipment fund to .1,000I♦ and cut 2000 from the contractual (road work) a total reduction of 5 ,000 Total Budget 37,543.00 e Councilman Barber-seconded the motion Vote on Proposal-yes -Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt LIBRARY Councilman Olson-moved to increase the library budget by 3,000 Councilman Robertson-seconded the .proposal Councilman Robillard—urged that the increase be no larger than 2000.00 Supervisor Brandt- I would also encourage you to dropn your proposal to 2000.00 Councilman Olson- I will amend my -motion to 2,000 dollars Vote on proposal-yes-Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt CELEBRATIONS Supervisor Brandt- requested thet ' this program be cut in half. Councilman Robillard- seconded the motion for means of discussion Councilman Robillard- noted that there was a proposal from the Bicentennial Commission that this could be done' for a two year program. 150 CoutUlMn Robertson the 3000 dollars requested was to finish the project in one yeah, the alternative was to. cut it in half and pay the 3000 in a two year period. Mr. Olson commented that he would like to see the project finished up in one year and asked that the 3400.00 be left in there. Mr. Brandt amended his motion to cut only 1500.00 from the project. Vote on proposal-Yes-Mdr.Oltobtllard, Mr. Brandt. No-Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robertson. RESEARCH i Mr. Brandt moved to take 20,000.00 from A 8540 and place it in A 8030. Mr. Barber agreed. - Vote on the proposal-Yes-Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson and Mr. Brandt. Employee Benefits-Mr. Brandt commented that Social- Security-rates were computated on a 6% increase, townwide. UNEXPENDEB BALANCE GENERAL FUND REVENUES Mr. Robertson-How realistic is your 100",000.00 unexpended balance you have listed: I feel that I� in-,no way, can answer that question. Mr. Brandt-1 think we can''end up, depending_ on any extra cost we want .to take on this year, we could end up at approximately 240,000.00 surplus and to allocate 100,000.00 of it is all we dare do. I think we can safely do that. Mr. Robertson-I am sure we can safely do with the 100,000.00, the 'question is how much more of it because any revenues .that we estimate at that point, quite frankly, will reduce the tax rate which you know as well as I do and which the general public does--- Mr. Brandt-I talked to Audit and Control on this and they felt that we should .not use the .100,000.00. They felt that with the size -budget that Queensbury has that we should try and hold a 250,000.00 surplus, but l differ with them and I think we should use 100,000.00 of it and try and hold 140 or 150,000.00 and they are really saying that we should not go any lower" than that. Mr. Barber-That is contrary than anything that I have heard from Audit and Control in the past. If in fact that we have a surplus of 225,000.00, 1 would like to see 200,000.00 down there because we have been chastised rather severely in the past by having .a rather large surplus by Audit and Control for not taking those monies and reducing taxes therefor. We have documentation to that effect and I do not disagree with what you are saying. They have in the past severely criticised us with documented letters that because of the large surplus that we have had we were wrong in not reducing the tax base by taking the monies from that surplus and applying it thereto. Mr. Brandt-They have a working figure, it is a certain percentage of your budget that they think hhat they should hold in surplus, if you hold beyond that they think it is unhealthy, if you hold less than that, they think it is unhealthy. I believe the last audit in the town was almost four years ago and after, having seen +New York City fail I think Audit and Control has changed some of their philosophy and many of their practices ,of the past and all I can tell you is that this is their recommendation. I suggested to theta that we further Cut it, they very adamantly told me that we should not cut it any futther than 150,000 dollars accumulated { . surplus-._.+ Mr. Barber- If you anticipate 225000.00 dollars I would like to see that 100,000 increase? to 200,000 . Supervisor- Brandt- What happens in a batd-- snow year. Councilman Barber- You have already covered that in your snow budget. Councilman Robillard- I can not see going that high. If you talked with Audit and Control- and you suggest a higher figuge what did you suggest? Supervisor Brandt- I suggested utilizing the whole thing or to utilize I '� 1 200,000 dollars and they told me that they would not utilize any of it, that I should keep 250,000 . Councilman Robillard- Would you feel safe with 150,000? Supervisor Brandt- I would not. Supposing there is some uninsured loss or a substantial asset of the Town say a °building burns down and the insurance did not cover it, I think we have to have a contingency'. I think in extreme weather we need a contingency. I think to remain bankable and to look reasonable to a bank who might be lending us money we should have this reserve. Councilman Robillard-1 think a contingency of 100,000 dollars is a lot of money, 200,000 I think is ridiculous. , in this given year. You are the fiscal officer Mike and I just can't go against your suggestion on the _ unexpended balance. . . Councilman Barber- I think a tax, of '1.36 per thousand when f I fact we can cut that in half by taking another 100,000 dollars of anticipated surplus and applying it to the unexpended balance. Mr. Robillard-I think that you are playing with a dangerous ball game with a balance of 20 or 30,000.00. You can wipe that out in any given week. Mr. Barber-I heard the words minimum of 225,000.00, surplus. Mr. Brandt-With 100,000.00 of it already being taken, so that would leave you with 125,000.00. Mr. Barber-You are saying a minimum of 225,000.00 totally. You expect more than 225,000. Supervisor Brandt- I said this year you can expect to see a surplus at the end of the current year of 240 000, andAwaybe 250,000 depending on "what we see toward the end of the year. Councilman Barber- I would like to recind my motion and make the motion that it be 150,000. Supervisor Brandt- That is what would be left if we allocated the 100,000.00 as proposed in the budget right now, would leave us after we use this 100,000 it would leave us 140,000 to reserve. Councilman Robillard- So if we added 50, 000 it would leave us 90,000 in reserve approximately. Councilman Barber- asked if there was a second to his motion. Supervisor Brandt- Your motion is to add an additional -50,000.00 Councilman Robillard- I will second that. Councilman Olson- I an looking at the water diet. You have a repayment to the General Town Fund of 50,000.00 in your estimate of revenues have you included that 50,000 or are you going to pick that up next year as . Supervisor Brandt- You -are talking that exact same piece of money we should end this year at 240,000 I ' suggestod that we utilize 100,000 of it into next year as revenue. That would leave us 140,000, the motion on the floor is to reduce that to 90,000of that 90,000, 75,000 would be borrowed by the water 'dept. until it paid us back, that would only leave us Councilman Robillard- That will be paid back in two payments. Supervisor Brandt- no that is paid back in one payment. Councilman Robillard- 100,000 was paid back in one payment? Supervisor Brandt- No 75,000.00 was the figure from the Water Dept. Councilman Robillard- I thought we loaned them 100,000 Supervisor Brandt- That is a seperate note. There are two notes involved in the water dept. l� Councilman Robillard- The one to the General .Fund .is 100,000 "right? Supervisor Brandt- I helieve `it is 75,000 but I am not sure, 100,000.00 is for a bank borrowing . Councilman Robillard- That . is the last year on that. That 50,000 is to be paid back this year. Supervisor Brandt- No. That is arnote from last year which we still owe. 50,000 for next year. Councilman Robillard- To be paid in 1977 by taxation. 3 Supervisor Brandt- That is vorrect. `Ire addition to that there is a note of 111,000 dollars which is a general borrowing from .a bank half of which would be paid next year, and half the following year, beyond that is a 75,000 dollar borrowing which would 'be coming from the-general fund. Councilman Robillard- That is a repayment to the General Loan Fund *V- 50,000 dollars to the General Fund, so that is 50,000 this year in '1977 , and 50,000 in 1978. Supervisor Brandt- You are right, sorry. Of the 90,000, you can't cut it that tight. You would not have sufficient money to lend the water department. Councilman Olson- You are saying that you are anticipating we are going to have to loan ? The loan is made already, and you still .have a surplus of 240,000. Supervisor Brandt- No. You are borrowing on surplus and you are returning it to surplus. Councilman Olsen- tavtsy+eupaartedb . acpahatshsiaato -the surplus? Supervisor Brandt- That is right. Councilman Robillard- In other words you are going to .have a surplus of 190,000 dollars plus a 50,000 dollar loan to the water dept. _ Supervisor Brandt- You have 240,000 $t the end of this year; of that 240, year,lending same to the wader :dept. for a .very short term and they will re- pay it. The schedule of repayment I do not remember. Councilman Robillard- 50, 000 and 50,000 Supervisor Brandt- Then there will only be of,- the 100,000 that they are borrowing they will only be repaying 50,000 next year so they will still be holding .50,000. Councilman Robillard- So what you are saying is that we will have 190,000 dollar surplus next yearbecause 50,000 ought to still be owed, from the Water Dist: There is 240,000 but you substract 50,000 because they-owe us that, so that leaves you 190,000. Supervisor Brandt- Plus you are substracting 100,000 into revenues of next year,so that leaves you 90,000 . Under his motion it would drop it down to 40,0001 I think that would be very dangerous. Banks will look at this Town very hard and right now we have a very good banking relationshir and I would like to maintain it. Councilman Robillard- Councilman Barber, you have heard the discussion ' I$ that still your.motion to add 150,000 dollars to the surplus? Councilman Barber-That- is correct. Vote on Proposal-yes-Mr. Bomber no-Mr. Olson, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt CEMETERY Councilman Barber- Do you have a financial statement from Pineview Cemetery? Supervisor Brandt- We are limited on the knowledge of their operation We have been in communications with them to get an exact accounting from them, of their asscks , we do not have that. They have not given us a schedule of their assets . Town -Clerk- There report was due- January 20th and there is none recorded in the minutes. Councilman Barber-I request the Supervisor to notify the Cemetery Commission that they will have to submit a detailed financial report to the Town. Questioned if he could vote on this part of the budget without the figures. Supervisor Brandt- I think we can resolve the problems. , BRUSH AND WEEDS Supervisor Brandt-requested that the trees for removal be bid on. . . suggested that they be done in groups. Councilman Barber-moved that the director of purchasing let out for bid on January let. the removal of trees in the Town of Queensbury. Supervisor Brandt: seconded theppoppeahl. Vote on Proposal-yea-Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt SNOW REMOVAL Councilman Barber- Questioned if we have a balance left from last year in the snow budget? Supervisor Brandt- 1976 we may be in the red by the time it is over. Tried to reflerst last years costs in this years budget. IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECT NO. 5153 Councilman Barber- I would like to see an analysis of that project. I do not believe the width of that stream 12 ' is going to cost us 22,320.00. Mr. Martindale, how much of a bridge span do you anticipate of the stream? Mr. Martindale-Roger Gebo helped in this and he suggested putting three tanks. . . . Councilman Barber- Is the county going to do the work? Mr.-. Martindale- The county cannot do 'it because the bridge is not 24' wide. Councilman Barber- What is our bridge span going to be? Mr. Martindale- three six foot pipes-18' Councilman Barberrl would like the highway committee review that in depth. MEADOWBROOK ROAD Councilman Barber- I really do not believe that we can adequately pave the remaining portion of Meadowbrook Road for 3600.00 dollars. If anything I think we should put more money there. Councilman Robillard- You do not have to do the whole project. Councilman Barber- If it does not have the mileage there, it leads me to the assumption that he is going to do the whole thing. Councilman Robillard- He stated last week that he does intend to do the whole project, but before adding money to Ho Meadowbrook Road I would rather add money to used streets that have people depending on them. Supervisor Brandt- It is my understanding that there is a dollar limit under the Donovan Plan, 36,000.00 and I think the budget is designed around that figure. Councilman Barber- Reiterating Councilman Robillard, I think there are other roads that are more populated that I think need more attention than Meadowbrook Road. I would like it left to the Highway Committee on Vha tbaudghearbaddone. WATER DEPT. 154 METERED SALES Supervisor Brandt-will have to look to an increase in water rates. . . applicable to the entire year rather than three quat sof a year. . . requested that the water committee review that. . .Possible 10% increase in water rates. Councilman Barber- Is that a safe projection? Supervisor Brandt- I believe so. Councilman Barber- With the present income that is coming in and a raise of 10% we should be able to have adequate revenues of an additional 240,000 dollars to meet your projected budget. r v Supervisor Brandt- To come up with 339,000 dollars figure. We took the best guess of what is coming in this ysar and projected from there. Councilman Robillard- questioned .the West Glens Falls dater Dist: Budget. Robertson CopactIman Br eit-Does not show the amount to be raised by taxes which it should. Councilman Robillard- requested that the Town Board set the . salary schedule for the Recreation Dept. RESOLUTION ADOPTING ANNUAL BUDGET WITH AMENDMENTS RESOLUTION NO 245, Introduced by Mr. Harold Robillard who moved for is adoption, seconded by Mr. Hammond Robertson: WHEREAS, this Town Board has met at the time and place specified in the notice of public hearing on the preliminary budget and heard all persons desiring to be heard thereon: NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that this Town Board does hereby adopt such preliminary budget as amepdedlip the Annual Budget of this town for the fiscal year beginning on the lst. day of January 1977 and- that such budget .. as so adopted be entered in detail in the minutes of the proceedings of this Town Board and be it, FURTHER RESOLVED, that-the Town Clerk of this town shall prepare and certify in duplicate copies of 'said annual budget as adopted by this Torn. Board together with estimates if any adopted pursuant to section 202-A subdivision 2 of the Town Law and deliver one copy thereof to the Supervisor of this Town to be presented by him to the Board of Supervisors of this County. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson Noes : Mr. Brandt Absent • THE ANNUAL .BUDGET FOR 1977 WAS ADOPTED AS F0LLOWS: 3 1 RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AUDIT OF BILLS RESOLUTION NO. 246, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its Adoption, sec-o—nd-e-d by Mr. Hammond Robertson: RESOLVED, that Audit of Bills as listed on Abstraott No. 76-11 numbered 1677 through 1883 acid totaling $62 ,5T8B.62 be accepted , and be it further RESOLVED, that Audit Number?7 1751, Councilman Olson abstained on. $E1S�LVF5D� tayAtetfo�lowingAvote_. ' withdrawn from the abstract. a o to Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. prandt Noes.: None Absent: Nftee On motion the meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Donald A. Chase, Town Clerk Town of Queensbury i 156 1 �J J 9252_C co. j At a R f=== ----- Ming of the Town Board of the Town Of Quesnsbury, Warren County, New York, held at the Queensbury Town Office Building, Bay and Haviland Roads# in said Town, on the q4 day of 1976, at 7 3o o'clock P .M. ' Eastern Standard Time. The meeting was called to order by and upon roll being called, the following were PRESENT: e r* y!��. ��•-rt ASSENT: The fallowing resolution was offered by fir.. lka,� who moved its adoption, seconded by jtt,Itrl.�'�M to-wit: BOND RESOLUTION DATED q � �.af 1976. R.or.. .Z t( A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INCREASE AND IMFROVENENT OF THE FACILITIES OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY CONSOLIDATED STATER DISTRICT IN THE TOwX OF QUEENSBURY, WAR�RRN COUNTY, NNW YORK, AT A MAX ESTXMMD COS pF $30,300, AND AUT11ORP'No THE 'SS TCB QF $30#500 SERIAL DSO OF SAID TOt!tt� T(9 PAY 'THE; COST TH3ERSOF. WHEREAS, pursuant to the proceedings heretofore had and taken under Section 212--b of the Town Law, this Town Board has determined it to be in the public interest to increase and improve the facilities of the Torn 3f Queensbury Consolidated dater District in the Town of Queensburyo Warren County, New York and -2- WHEREAS, it is now deeired to provide for the authorisation of such improvement and the financing of the cost thereof; WOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury., Warren County, New York., as follows Section 1. The increase and improvement of the facilities of the Town of Queensbury Consolidated 'Water District, in the Town of Queensbui'y, 'Warren County, New York, consisting of the purchase of a backhoe, ,is hereby authorised at a maximum estimated coat of $301500 Section 2. The plan for the financing of such maximum estimated-- cost is by the issuance of $30,500 serial bonds of said Town, hereby authorised to be issued therefor pursuant to the Local Finance Law. Section 3. it is hereby determined that the ,period of probable usefulness of the aforesaid specific object or purpose is five years, pursuant to subdivision 28 of paragraph a of Section 11.00 of the Local Finance Law. It is hereby further detearLdned that the maximum maturity of the serial bonds herein authorized will not exceed five years. soctiM !. T -Smith and edit of said Tom of Queousbwry, New York, are hereby irrevocably pledged to the payment of the principal of and interest on such bonds as the same become due.. and payable. There shall annually be assessed upon all the taxable areal property in said Town of queensbury ConsoUdated -3- Water District, in the manner provided by law, an amc>uat sufficient to pay said principal and interest as the same become due and payable, but if not paid from such source, all the taxable real property within said Town shall, be subject to the 1®vy of ad valorem taxes without limitation as to rate or amount sufficient to pay the principal of and interest on said bonds. Section 5. Subject to the provisions of the Local Finance Lays, the power to authorize the issuance of and to sell bond anticipation notes in anticipation of the issuance and sale of the serial bonds herein anthorixad, including reuewrals of such notes, in hereby delegated to the Scapmrvisor, the chief fiscal officer. Such notes shall be of such terns, form and contents, and shall be sold in such manner, as may be prescribed by said Supervisor, consistent with the provisions of the Local Finance Law, Section 6. The validity of such bonds and bond anticipation notes may be contested only if: 1) Such obligations are authorized for an object or purpose for which said Town is not authorized to expand money, or 2) The provisions of law which Should be complied with at the daft*-of publication of this resolution are not Substantially complied with, and an action, suit or proceeding contesting such validity is commenced within twenty days after the date of such publication, or 3) Such obligations are authorized in violation of the provisions of the Constitution. -4- C s+9ction �. This resolution, which takes effect i�aed shall b® iately, published in full in Post-Star and Tames and the Tri County mews, the official newspapers Of said Tom with a notice Of the Town Clerk in substantially together y the form provided in Section 81,00 of the Local Finance Law. The question of the adoption of the foregoing resolution was duly put to a vote on roll call, which resulted as follows, '�'r , tr�,..e•ti VOTING w• VOUNG, V07I G VOTING . - VOTING . The resolution was thereupon declared duly adopted. v > 9252-G At a REGULAR Mating of the Town Hoard of the Town Of eASbnrY, Warren County, Mew York, held at the QueQ bt:ry Town Office Building, Say a" 8avriland Roads, in said Town, on tie 9( dap of Nember,+r 1976, at 700 o'cicx* Tp Baste= Sta04ard Tim. The Meting was called to order by Supervisor Brandt WW npoa roll being calked, the following were PRESBaIT s Supervisor Michel Brandt Councilman Daniel Olson Councilman Robert Barber Councilman Harold Robillard Councilman Hammond Robertson ABSXNT: None RESOLUTION NO. 240A. Thee following resolution was offered by Haumn,,nA Rnb *r who Wrwved its adopti+oa, seconded by Daniel Olson , to-Wits RSSOLMON DATRD November 9 1. r 1976. A =801iUTlM "KIM CBATAIa DMXX=UZM ZU BShl1TICE TO TU PaDPOSRD =CABRSR AND IMROVMW W Tag PAMIXTIRS QF Ta$ TOM -or &t_DAM man D1$TxZCT in TaR 2VW or Qa a ."M# • x= to= ' t REAR, tht Toir►s► Board of ths TTgWx of Qu+esn"ury, Marren County, New York, has had under consideration the increase and inprov►eMnt of the facilities of the Town of Qpeeusbtkry Consolidated Mater District in and for said Town, coasistinq of the Purchase of a backhoe at a Maximum estinated cost of $39,506; =4 /SG Y WUXN lS, said Town Board duly adapted a resolution on October- 12, 1976, calling a public hearing to consider said proposed increase and improvement of the facilities of said water District, to be held at the Town Office Building, in Glens Falls, New York: in said Town, on the 9th day of November, 1976, at 700 o'clock P.m., Eastern Wit. Time, to hear all persons interested in the subject thereof ,concerning the same; and al" notice of.said P04140 hearing was duly published and posted In the ras es pzrw3rd lad:and,..$. f thereof has been submitted to said Town Board; and WMRBaS, said public hearing was duly held at the time and place aforesaid at vhich all persons interested were duly heard; and WHSRSBS, said Town Board has duly considered all of the evidence presented at such public hearing; NOW TRZFJ FK3RE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Town Board of the Town of pueensbury, Marren County. New York, as follows: Section I. Based upon the evidence presented at the aforesaid public hearing, it is hereby found sad determined to be in the public Interest to provide for the increase sad improvement of the facilities of tae Town of Consolidated Water District in the Town of Queensbury, Warren County, Now Bork, AS more fully ,described in the preambles hereof. Section 2. The .Nwn Engineer is hereby directed to prepare definite #*cificatioss and to-t►ake a careful estimate of the expense axzd;., with the assistance of the Torn Attorney, prepare -3- a Proposed codtract for Such purchase and to ewmit the some to this Town Board for examination and approval. Sectiom 30 This resolution shall take effect i0mediatoly. The question of the adoption of the foteg pint resolution was . duly put to a vote on roll call, which resulted as follows: Mr_ Rgmi L U1sor VOTING es Mr. .Robert Barber VOTING es Mr. Bar-o d Lob i t lmr d VOTING yes e t Qn YOT"G es M eh�T B�►ate.�b �t' 2�[G:;; e,�. . The resolution Niui ti II declarid`dl ► adopted. - STAT8 OF H8w You j COUNTY or why ) ss. I, the undersigned Clerk of the Town of Queensbusy, warren County, New Ya►rk, m BZRM CRRTIVY: That I have caMgwU*4 the foregoing copy of the soinutes of the meting of the Town Board of Said Town, including the resolution coatainad therein, held oa the _ day of u e ti.be 19 7i, With the original thereof on .file in MV affico, .and that -the Sam is a true and correct eat c►f Sad evigiaal and of '#. It of said Original so far as the sawn relates to the subject matters therein referred to. I FURTSSR CRRTIFY that all aeabers of said Board had due notice of said meting. Ili WITNUS wBIMor, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of said Town this jjj4ay of 1976. CA oRra r �'