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06-20-2017 gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'IIIIu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING FIRST REGULAR MEETING JUNE 20, 2017 INDEX Subdivision PZ 256-2016 Michael Dorman 1. FINAL STAGE Tax Map No. 295.11-1-5 REQUEST FOR 6 MONTH EXT. Site Plan PZ 169-2016 J & D Marina, LLC 2. Special Use Permit PZ 170-2016 Tax Map No. 240.5-1-31.23 REQUEST FOR 1 YR. EXT. Site Plan No. 22-2017 Fastrac Markets, LLC 3. Special Use Permit 5-2017 Tax Map No. 309.13-1-35 Site Plan No. 45-2017 Aviation Hospitality, LLC 11. Special Use Permit 10-2017 Tax Map No. 302.5-1-96.1; 302.5-1-93.1 REQUEST FOR LA STATUS Site Plan No. 47-2017 Ambrosia Diner 11. REQUEST FOR LA STATUS Tax Map No. 302.5-1-97 Site Plan No. 48-2017 Aviation Mall 11. REQUEST FOR LA STATUS Tax Map No. 302.5-1-92.11, 302.5-1-93.1 Site Plan No. 40-2017 William Rourke 15. ZBA RECOMMENDATION Tax Map No. 289.10-1-13 Site Plan No. 44-2017 O'Reilly Auto Enterprise, LLC 22. ZBA RECOMMENDATION Tax Map No. 302.7-1-28 Subdivision No. 11-2017 Michael Altare 25. PRELIMINARY STAGE Tax Map No. 309.17-1-2 Subdivision No. 12-2017 FINAL STAGE ZBA RECOMMENDATION Site Plan No. 41-2017 Charles Kane 27. Tax Map No. 296.13-1-19 Site Plan No. 42-2017 Larry Tracy d/b/a Adk. Chainsaw Carvings 35. Tax Map No. 288.-1-55 THESE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY ADOPTED MINUTES AND ARE SUBJECT TO BOARD AND STAFF REVISIONS. REVISIONS WILL APPEAR ON THE FOLLOWING MONTHS MINUTES (IF ANY) AND WILL STATE SUCH APPROVAL OF SAID MINUTES. QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING FIRST REGULAR MEETING JUNE 20, 2017 gp,,;�uVu`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� 7:00 P.M. MEMBERS PRESENT STEPHEN TRAVER, CHAIRMAN GEORGE FERONE, SECRETARY DAVID DEEB BRAD MAGOWAN JAMIE WHITE THOMAS FORD JOHN SHAFER, ALTERNATE LAND USE PLANNER-LAURA MOORE TOWN COUNSEL-FITZGERALD, MORRIS, BAKER, FIRTH-MIKE CROWE MR. TRAVER-So, good evening, everyone. Welcome to the meeting of the Planning Board for the Town of Queensbury. This is the first meeting for the month of June and the 12th meeting for 2017. There should be some agendas on the table at the back of the room if you would like to pick one up. We ask everyone including myself to turn their cellphone off so that we don't have those going off unnecessarily. We have two administrative items and approval of minutes before we get to our main agenda. So we will start with the approval of minutes for the April 18th and April 25th Planning Board meetings. APPROVAL OF MINUTES April 18, 2017 April 25, 2017 MOTION TO APPROVE THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 18TH & APRIL 25TH, 2017, Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption, seconded by Brad Magowan: Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017, by the following vote: AYES: Ms. White, Mr. Ford, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE ABSTAINED: Mr. Deeb MR. TRAVER-All right, and next we have two administrative items. The first being a request for six month extension to obtain outside agency approvals for Subdivision Final Stage PZ 256- 2016 for Michael Dorman. ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE PZ 256-2016 MICHAEL DORMAN — REQUEST FOR 6 MONTH EXTENSION TO OBTAIN OUTSIDE AGENCY APPROVALS. MR. TRAVER-Laura, do you have additional information for us on that? MRS. MOORE-Well, they're still working through a Department of Health issue. MR. TRAVER-Okay. MRS. MOORE-1 apologize. It's another matter. MR. TRAVER-Okay. I know we got some information in our packet. So this is not an unusual request because of the background work that needs to be completed before they can begin construction anyway. Does anyone have any concerns with this extension? MR. FORD-No. At least I don't. MR. TRAVER-1 guess we're ready for a motion. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� RESOLUTION RE: SIX MONTH EXTENSION SUB PZ 256-2016 FINAL STG MICHAEL DORMAN MOTION TO APPROVE A SIX MONTH EXTENSION FOR SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE PZ 256-2016 MICHAEL DORMAN, Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption, seconded by Thomas Ford: Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: AYES: Ms. White, Mr. Ford, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-All right, and next we have another administrative item. Site Plan PZ 169-2016 & Special Use Permit PZ 170-2016 for J & D Marina, LLC. They're asking for a one year extension, again, for outside agency approvals. SITE PLAN PZ 169-2016 & SPECIAL USE PERMIT PZ 170-2016 J & D MARINA, LLC — REQUEST FOR 1 YEAR EXTENSION FOR OUTSIDE AGENCY APPROVALS MR. TRAVER-And we did get a letter in our packet from them speaking to that issue with the Park Commission and other various issues that they're dealing with. Laura, do you have anything to add? MRS. MOORE-They have submitted information. They're waiting for additional signoff from another agency and then they'll be submitting for their building permit. MR. TRAVER-Okay. MRS. MOORE-So they're right around the corner. It's just that it fell within the timeframe that they needed to ask for the extension. MR. TRAVER-Very good. All right. Any concerns with that request? MR. SHAFER-Would they need 12 months, Steve, instead of 6? MR. TRAVER-Well, that's what they're requesting. MR. SHAFER-Not an issue. MR. TRAVER-It expires July 19th. I mean, I suppose if we wanted to send it back and say we only want to give you six months we could do that. MRS. MOORE-It's not going to harm them at this point. They're within a month and a half. MR. TRAVER-So it wouldn't hurt if we approved it for six months instead of twelve. MRS. MOORE-Correct. MR. TRAVER-Okay. MR. FORD-But the reason for their requesting 12 was? MRS. MOORE-Just in case something goes wrong. MR. DEEB-They can come back and request an additional. MR. FORD-Yes. MR. MAGOWAN-Well, like I said, you've got the issue across the street there. I mean, I would leave it for a year. They're good people. I know they'll do it. I'd like to stay with a year just in case. MR. TRAVER-1 agree. I mean, they did their homework in their application and I'm sure they did it when they made this request. John raised the point and I thought we should discuss it. MR. FORD-If they want to bump it up to a closer date. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'IIIIu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. TRAVER-Right, well this wouldn't prevent them from starting it sooner. All right. Very good. Then we're ready for a motion. RESOLUTION RE: ONE YEAR EXTENSION SP PZ 169-2016 SUP PZ 170-2016 J & D MARINA MOTION TO APPROVE A ONE YEAR EXTENSION FOR SITE PLAN PZ 169-2016 & SPECIAL USE PERMIT PZ 170-2016 J&D MARINA, LLC. Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption, seconded by Brad Magowan: Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Magowan, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Ford, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-All right. Now we move on to our regular agenda. The first being a tabled item. Fastrac Markets, LLC, Site Plan 22-2017 & Special Use Permit 5-2017. SITE PLAN NO. 22-2017 SPECIAL USE PERMIT 5-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED FASTRAC MARKETS, LLC AGENT(S) NAPIERALA CONSULTING OWNER(S) JERRY NUDI, SWITCHO, LLC ZONING CI-18 LOCATION 208 CORINTH ROAD APPLICANT PROPOSES A 5,800 SQ. FT. CONVENIENCE STORE WITH 7,782 SQ. FT. FUEL CANOPY AND 2,008 SQ. FT. DIESEL CANOPY. PROJECT INCLUDES CLEARING 2.15 ACRE PARCEL, INSTALLATION OF NEW CURB CUT ON CORINTH ROAD, 2 NEW CURB CUTS ON PRIVATE DRIVE AND OTHER SITE WORK. APPLICANT PROPOSES WAIVERS FROM LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. PROJECT SUBJECT TO CI-18 SPECIAL USE PERMIT. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 & 179-10 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, NEW COMMERCIAL USE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE SP PZ 51-2016 &AV PZ 69-2016 HOTEL, DISC 2-2017, AV 18-2017, SV 3-2017 WARREN CO. REFERRAL MARCH 2017 LOT SIZE 2.155 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 309.13-1-35 SECTION 179-3-040, 179-10 MATT NAPIERALA& BRETT HUGHES, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT MR. TRAVER-Laura, do you want to give us the summary? MRS. MOORE-Okay. Just to summarize, a 5,800 square foot convenience store, includes 7,782 square foot fuel canopy and 2,008 square foot diesel canopy, includes clearing an entire parcel. The applicant has received variances for permeability, setback and signs, and the applicant has included information from previous requests such as an interconnection with McDonalds and worked with the Zoning Board for a certain amount of signs on the site, and the applicant has received the engineering signoff. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Yes, this evening we actually received a letter from Chazen indicating that they are in agreement that you've addressed all the engineering and technical comments to their satisfaction. Good evening. MR. NAPIERALA-Good evening. Again I'm Matt Napierala, Napierala Consulting, site engineer. With me is Brett Hughes from Fastrac Markets. MR. FORD-Welcome back. MR. NAPIERALA-Thank you. When we last left that was I think the first initiation of the Chazen letter dealing with technical review items. We were asked to get a clean bill of health from Chazen. Over the last two months we've gone through a couple of iterations with them, specifically dealing with our stormwater off the hot spot, being the fueling area, and making sure we are dotting our I's and crossing our T's and satisfying DEC especially since we are utilizing infiltration off the Switcho property from the back side of the hotel. So we're kind of working with Jerry Nudi with regards to that. The other technical review item was dealing with some of the traffic aspects of the new private road and the intersection off of that, and making sure that our trip generation for this type of store off the interchange of Exit 18 is appropriate, and I think we satisfied those technical items as well as the other review items with Chazen. What, I have a couple of other pieces of information that I'd like to share with the Board today. I know in Staff review that we talked a little bit about the lighting for this facility. MR. TRAVER-Yes. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. NAPIERALA-What I have, and I'm going to share with the Board, I've got a bunch of copies, is we had our lighting vendor essentially do a reverse photometric of what that lighting looks like, but then as well, as we said, we've been working with Fastrac for five years on this new prototype, and in this package you'll see actually nighttime photos of a store that was just opened up in December, and you'll see what it looks like around the store so that you have some reality of what it looks like. Sometimes when we deal with. MR. FORD-What's the location of that store, please? MR. NAPIERALA-This one is Elbridge, which is a western suburb of Syracuse. That store was opened up October of 2016. MR. FORD-Thank you. MR. TRAVER-And are these, does this represent? MR. NAPIERALA-So what we did, I know the exact question you're asking. What we did is we compared the photometric of what we're showing here for the Corinth store, the proposed, with the photometric of what was proposed for this Elbridge store, and we even went further than that. We brought our photometer, which I left in my office, but essentially tried to corroborate the light intensities of underneath this canopy compared to what was generated, computer generated, and I would say we were within 5% of that intensity, and as well that store intensity with regards to what we're currently proposing for this store was almost exactly the same with that, with those ranges, you know, we did have, the new LED lights you do get some direct light right underneath the fixture, and we do have, when you look at that photometric, you will see stuff, 40's, there might even be a 50, but the reduction as you push away from that really does not spill out like the old metal halides or high pressure sodiums. The LED's are very intense, but they're direct. So when we look at what the averages are, and Sarah put these together for me and compared the Corinth lighting, which we have underneath the fuel canopy we have an average of about 33 foot candles. That Elbridge store that you're seeing those pictures of, underneath the canopy was about an average of 32 foot candles. So very, very similar intensity. You can see the photos that we're taking from the sidewalk looking at that store it's not obtrusive at all, and as well the photo of that nighttime store as you look at the store itself and the LED canopy, or the LED parking lot lights, are not, this isn't a used car lot in terms of intensity. It's a soft intensity. That particular store that we took those photos on, to the direct rear of us is a residential neighborhood, unlike what we have on Corinth where the back of us is the hotel and we're not in an intense residential area. So I wanted to just show that as evidence, in the fact that as well when we were last before you the intensity was a lot greater. We cut it in half from where we started. We went back to the lighting vendor, per some conversations we had with the Board, and said, what else can we do, and then we, again, took a look at some of the newer stores in residential areas and said we've got to, work with us a little bit on this, and so they did. So the evidence of fact, and that first photo is essentially a helicopter view. When you looked right down you're not going to see the lights that are right underneath the dispenser, but they're there, but again, I thought it was valuable to you with regards to this question, to take a look at some nighttime photos with a relatively good camera so you don't get that pixilation when you take nighttime photos. So hopefully that's helpful in your review. MR. TRAVER-Well, I certainly, I appreciate what you're trying to do, and I can only speak for myself personally, but I like the numbers. Photographs are great. They can be very helpful, you know, photography has been a bit of a hobby of mine. So, you know, photographs are great, but in terms of actually evaluating the real world value, I like the hard numbers. I like to know the facts. MR. FORD-1 agree. MR. TRAVER-They still seem very high to me, but you're right, that was the first question I was going to ask you about is the lighting because it is so very high, but setting aside the lighting for now, is there anything else that you would like to tell us? MR. NAPIERALA-Again, we're here for your questions and answers, you know, we'll keep it moving forward and anything that you need we're here for. MR. TRAVER-Sure. Very good. Thank you. Then I'll open it up for questions by other members of the Planning Board. MR. MAGOWAN-Well, I will reiterate that he is right on the LED's. You're talking an eye that's big that's forcing that light, and it is, it's not a bulb where the light comes out the side, it does a gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� shine down, and I have noticed it's a big difference. It's a brighter light, but the spill offs aren't as intense. MR. TRAVER-So would you say that we should interpret the foot candle readings differently? MR. MAGOWAN-No. I think when they came in with the foot candles, I believe, you know, they reduced the numbers, and after looking at the photos I'm actually standing across the street and I don't want to say it almost looks too dark, but when you get closer, you know, and that's what I like about it. When you're up close, the light is, when you're on the property it's bright, but across the street it looks like it's too dark. MR. TRAVER-In that photograph. MR. MAGOWAN-In the photograph. So, you know, if he can mimic this and we'll hang onto it and give it to Bruce Frank. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you for that. Anyone else? MR. FERONE-Can you talk a little bit to the traffic study you had enclosed in here? I know you were trying to explain how I guess originally the, some of the traffic studies had to do with the bank being there, and now it's going to be one of your Fastrac stores, and it talked about 29 trips in the morning peak and 17 trips in the evening. Can you give some background as to how they came up with those numbers? MR. NAPIERALA-So we're starting with essentially the base of when Switcho came in for the master development, and that master development included the hotel, which is well, hopefully close to being opened up. It included some office off to the west side, and it included a bank on our parcel. So that was essentially the background that established the private road and the signalization and some mitigation improvements of both Corinth Road and the access drive. The hotel itself essentially required just a single lane out and a single lane in and no further striping improvements on Corinth. When we introduced now a convenience store with this configuration and this particular trip generation, it is different than the bank, but what we did is we did a comparable from the bank to now this store and one of the questions Chazen had was they questioned our trip generation based on ITE. ITE says okay you have a convenience store, here's the trip gen, but what Chazen did when they initially did their review is they said, well, you have a 5800 square foot grocery store. You have 10 fueling dispensers and then you have another 6 diesel dispensers, and they took each of those components individually and they, off of ITE said, and they just did a simple linear addition of those, and they said, for this store, we get over 300 trips in the peak hour. Well we have stores just like this and we said, we would love to have 300 trips in the peak hour, but we know there's no way we're going to get 300 trips in the peak hour. So what we did, as far as our evidence back to Chazen, is we went to three separate stores. We went to two Fastrac stores and then another convenience store that had almost the identical configuration of this, being off an interchange highway, having diesel and fuel, and essentially from that we backed up our trip generation numbers, and I don't have it, I have the report but I don't have the number in my head, but that essentially became the basis of the traffic study and the report. So now we have the proposed condition with the trip gen and we took the initial traffic study report that generated what was needed for the mitigation design as a whole, and we said, okay, now we have a convenience store. We came to an agreement with Chazen with that trip gen, from that trip gen then we did the traffic analysis off of Synchro and said, okay, and Synchro's a computer generation of the traffic movements both on Corinth and off the driveways, and we said that with regards to the 10 year build out, it is appropriate, that first off it almost was a double check of the Switcho design that, yes, a left turn lane off of the private drive is appropriate, and as well a left turn in for the eastbound traffic coming toward us is appropriate. So those mitigation measures are a part of this program now because now we are breaking those thresholds that are needed with regards to this store. So the improvements that are occurring is the left lane out of the private drive is included and the left turn lane in off of Corinth is included in the study. So that's the short of it, and again, we had a couple of detailed discussions with Tom from Chazen to make sure that we're doing our thing. MR. FORD-Could you identify the three locations you used, two Fastrac and one other? MR. NAPIERALA-Yes. So we did one Fastrac in Utica. Brand new store opened up and it's off of a, and actually we compared all three stores to the average daily traffic of Corinth Road, and every store we did comparables had greater traffic than Corinth. One store was right off of, in Cicero, New York right off of the 81 interchange with Route 11 in Cicero. So I know maybe you're not familiar, but it's a pretty busy area, and so that store sits right off the off ramp, and it's literally right off the off ramp. So we did that trip generation study. We did another trip as gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� generation study a little further down the road at a Nice N Easy store that had the exact configuration. It had eight fueling pumps, not ten, but it had six diesel. So we wanted to get that comparable of that and the store was 5200 not 5800. So very close comparable, and we introduced that into our trip gen analysis, and then the other one was on a main drag strip in Utica. It wasn't off an off ramp, but the average daily, or the average peak hour trips were no greater than what we're seeing on Corinth Road. So Utica, Cicero, which is just north of Syracuse, and the other store was to the east off of 481 in the Town of Witt. MR. FORD-Thank you. MR. FERONE-Another question I had. Part of that report talks about site layout, and so you have a curb cut that comes in off of Corinth Road, two that will come off the service road that goes around to the Holiday Inn, and then one between yourselves and McDonalds. MR. NAPIERALA-Correct. MR. FERONE-And so I think you might have even talked about the McDonalds thing when you were here the first time, which is probably a good thing, but now I'm thinking does that create an issue where people are going to try and exit your property through that drive and get over to the McDonalds parking lot? MR. NAPIERALA-We really don't see that movement mainly because of the back of the store, and, you know, again, we're in the convenience business and we foresee, first off, and I do have my pointer, maybe if you do go to the other one, Laura, but what you're talking about here is we're having a common drive off of McDonalds here. MR. FERONE-Right. MR. NAPIERALA-And we have the fueling here on the west side of the store and we have a right in in the front of the store. Most of our customers are either going to be parking in the front or they're going to be here at the fuel, where once they're here at the fuel they're not going to back track and go back this way, especially with an operation signal here. For any movements, people want the path of least resistance. I'm a hydrology guy so water is the path of least resistance. Traffic is the same thing. We want to get to the path of least resistance. The majority of our traffic in our analysis shows it's coming on the private drive to get to out of the site. From the highway the right in is important to us to get that highway traffic quickly into our store. MR. FERONE-And just a side note, as you point to the service road and the two curb cuts are there, I was at the property today, but they were doing some finishing grading for some stormwater management. I guess you're just going to have to go right across that. MR. NAPIERALA-We've worked with Jerry Nudi and the contractor and Switchco. So in that location you're talking about right here we have properly sized culverts, once we drop those in, so we've worked with his stormwater analysis as well. So those culverts are appropriately sized. Frankly the drainage area that we're dealing with, especially here in the front, this is kind of like a high spot to get everything back to this big infiltration basin. So, but we've looked at that and we've looked at their analysis to make sure that we're not encumbering that flow, because he's using those ditches as water quality to his system as well. MR. FERONE-And I guess my last question on that report is there's a thing in there that says we do not expect to have this be a truck stop for heavy vehicles in relation to your having diesel available. It's more for recreational vehicles, but do you see a large truck possibly going in there and can they navigate in there? MR. NAPIERALA-Yes. We did test that for a tractor trailer, but again, it isn't convenient for the tractor trailers, and that's what we see in our stores, and again when we look at this particular diesel alignment, and really what we're looking at is the, that vacationer traffic who might have a diesel, double axel diesel pulling a trailer or pulling a big boat, and that's really our strive, or even the landscape guys with diesel pickups and stuff, but if a diesel does want to come in here, big truck, they can get in here, but it isn't going to be like the big truck stops where they have massive amounts of pavement and they're sitting there and potentially taking their four hour rest time at a truck stop. That won't happen here, and again, we have experience with that diesel components at our stores off of highways, and that just doesn't occur. MR. FERONE-Thank you. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. SHAFER-Will you be applying to the DOT for a tourist oriented business sign as you approach the interchange both northbound and southbound? MR. HUGHES-Yes, most likely. We've got a department that handles that type of research so we will be looking into that. MR. SHAFER-But that is a given, are you comfortable, still comfortable with a 65% pass by for the trip generation rate? It would seem to me that would possibly change that a little bit. Although I don't know by how much. MR. NAPIERALA-And again, 65% is probably a conservative number to start with, when we take a look at the traffic moving today and the traffic that already comes down Corinth to go McDonalds or other areas. I mean, that particular signage is certainly allowing people to know that there's a new store here, and, yes, you're going to get some attraction, but I think the 65% of the, not as a, 35% as a destination is really looking at it the other way. So 35% of the traffic would be a destination or new trips that are coming on Corinth, and I think that's an accurate number. MR. TRAVER-Are there any other questions from members of the Board before the public hearing? MR. SHAFER-I had raised previously, and I don't know if you had given any consideration or any thought to the northerly driveway out of the site, relative to the inability to see around that curb for the hotel. MR. NAPIERALA-Yes, I think we talked about it last time with regards to, could we get out to here, and what we looked at is the actual movements of a larger vehicle here, and the best we could do is to kind of put that here and it kind of became, it was to get that circulation around this just over two acre site. It was, from this private road we would either be at this location, so we're still at that same sight distance issue. MR. SHAFER-Yes, I was just wondering if a sign might be appropriate for the people on the private drive. MR. NAPIERALA-Signage is always good. That's not a problem. We can certainly consider that and talk to Jerry and say, let's put sharp curve ahead or crossing or, low curb cut ahead, driveway ahead or something like that. MR. HUGHES-We've already made a footnote to look into that. So I was on site a couple of hours ago based on that same concern, because we don't want to create conflict points for customers. So there's pretty good visibility as it stands today. It's not a very sharp turn. It's kind of a long turn. MR. SHAFER-The trees are gone, or will be gone? MR. HUGHES-Yes, I mean, there's a pretty good buffer between edge of pavement and tree line, as it stands today. So it didn't overly concern me. I just wanted you to know that we have our customer's safety obviously first and foremost. So we want to minimize conflict points as best we can. MR. FERONE-What do they have that road posted at, like 25 miles per hour? Hopefully people won't speed through there. MR. NAPIERALA-Yes. You would like to think that commonsense would prevail, but we usually post signs, certainly can look into that, and as a whole that private drive is almost like a scenic road. It is, and with especially that steep curve people are going to have to naturally slow down and as they approach the hotel. MR. DEEB-And one other thing here, are we requesting native plantings and compliant plantings? It should be on the landscape plan. Did you address that? MR. NAPIERALA-We have some species picked on the landscape plan, and that's kind of almost a typical that we like to provide. We've got red maples, hackberries and I think Norway Spruce. So pretty typical native species plantings for our larger trees. Certainly if the department has other suggestions we would be amenable to those. MR. TRAVER-Well, there is a list of acceptable species that you can use. gp,,;�uVu`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. NAPIERALA-Okay. MR. TRAVER-It just needs to be compliant. MR. NAPIERALA-It certainly will be. MR. DEEB-And be noted and that's all. MR. NAPIERALA-We're not opposed to it. MR. TRAVER-Anything else from the Board at this stage? Then there is a public hearing on this application. So we will open the public hearing and ask if there are members of the audience that want to address the Board on this application? I'm not seeing any. Laura, do we have any written comments? PUBLIC HEARING OPEN MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments. MR. TRAVER-Well, in that case we will close the public hearing. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED MR. TRAVER-There is an Unlisted application so we do have a SEQR process on this as well. How do members feel about moving ahead with SEAR? MR. DEEB-Let's get it done. MR. TRAVER-All right. Are we looking at, have members of the Board, and we have a SEQR resolution, draft resolution, have members of the Board noted any concerns of an environmental nature that we should discuss before considering a SEQR resolution? MR. FORD-Not that haven't already been discussed and addressed. MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. I'm not hearing any. MR. FERONE-1 only have one question, and I'm sorry I keep going back to traffic, but in the EAF it said will there be a traffic increase, and the answer to the question was no, but based on the study. MR. NAPIERALA-Again, you know, the answer is based on I think that trip gen, or not the trip gen, but the passer by scenario, but certainly the complete traffic study would trump the, and you could kind of differ that into your decision that complete traffic study was done and appropriate mitigation was provided. MR. TRAVER-For SEQR it's small to moderate, but good point. Traffic is definitely a concern. MR. FORD-Yes. MR. TRAVER-Okay. RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC SP 22-2017 & SUP 5-2017 FASTRAC The applicant proposes a 5,800 sq. ft. convenience store with 7,782 sq. ft. fuel canopy and 2,008 sq. ft. diesel canopy. Project includes clearing 2.15 acre parcel, installation of new curb cut on Corinth Road, 2 new curb cuts on private drive and other site work. Applicant proposes waivers from landscaping requirements. Project subject to CI-18 special use permit. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 & 179-10 of the Zoning Ordinance, new commercial use shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act; The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations of the Town of Queensbury; No Federal or other agencies are involved; gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� Part 1 of the Lonq EAF has been completed by the applicant; Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of Queensbury Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse impacts on the environment, and, therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be prepared. Accordingly, this negative declaration is issued. MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SITE PLAN 22-2017 & SPECIAL USE PERMIT 5-2017 FASTRAC MARKETS, LLC, Introduced by George Ferone As per the resolution prepared by staff. 1. Part II of the Long EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board. 2. Part III of the Long EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify potentially moderate to large impacts. Motion seconded by Thomas Ford. Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Ford, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-All right. We've done SEAR, and next we consider the Site Plan. I think we had one condition regarding the plantings. MR. FERONE-I'm just trying to see if there were any waivers requested. MR. TRAVER-1 believe that there was a waiver on landscaping. MR. FERONE-Yes. From buffering. MR. TRAVER-From buffering, right, because they're only doing four feet and I think it's normally, and I would just mention we discussed lighting quite a bit, and I would just point out to the Board that this is our last opportunity to address that, if we are having expectations beyond what the applicant has already done. Okay. RESOLUTION APPROVING SP 22-2017 & SUP 5-2017 FASTRAC MARKETS, LLC The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board: Applicant proposes a 5,800 sq. ft. convenience store with 7,782 sq. ft. fuel canopy and 2,008 sq. ft. diesel canopy. Project includes clearing 2.15 acre parcel, installation of new curb cut on Corinth Road, 2 new curb cuts on private drive and other site work. Applicant proposes waivers from landscaping requirements. Project subject to CI-18 special use permit. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 & 179-10 of the Zoning Ordinance, new commercial use shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code; As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation; The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 03/28/2017 and continued the public hearing to 05/18/2017 & 06/2017, when it was closed, The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 06/20/17; The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval, nay gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'IIIIu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 22-2017 & SPECIAL USE PERMIT 5-2017 FASTRAC MARKETS, LLC; Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption. According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following: 1) Waivers requested granted; landscaping requirements from the buffering. 2) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution. a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff; b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater Department for its review, approval, permitting and inspection; c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office; d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans; e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site improvements;- f) If required, the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town: a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES General Permit from Construction Activity" prior to the start of any site work. b. The project NOT (Notice of Termination) upon completion of the project; c. The applicant must maintain on their project site, for review by staff: i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan) when such a plan was prepared and approved; ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General Permit, or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required. g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and Codes personnel; h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work; i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution; j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy. k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans I) We would also add that landscaping should include native plantings, compliant plantings, and they should be noted on the landscape plan. Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Ford, Ms. White Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-You're all set. MR. HUGHES-Thank you very much. I appreciate your efforts. MR. MAGOWAN-Welcome to the neighborhood. MR. TRAVER-Any news on the Dix Avenue property? MR. HUGHES-It's in a holding pattern, but it doesn't appear we're going to do it at this time. Thank you very much again. MR. TRAVER-Yes, thank you for your efforts. Okay, and next, we're going to make a slight alteration in the agenda this evening. We do have a type of administrative item. We have a major project that we discussed previously coming in to the Aviation Road corridor, Aviation gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'IIIIu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� Hospitality, which by nature impacts not only that site but also the existing Ambrosia Diner and the existing Aviation Mall property. ADMINISTRATIVE: PLANNING BOARD SEEKS LEAD AGENCY STATUS RELATED TO PROJECTS FOR AVIATION HOSPITALITY, LLC; AMBROSIA DINER &AVIATION MALL: SITE PLAN NO. 45-2017; SPECIAL USE PERMIT 10-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED — COORDINATED AVIATION HOSPITALITY, LLC AGENT(S) BOHLER ENGINEERING OWNER(S) PCGF NEWCO, LLC ZONING ESC LOCATION 524 AVIATION ROAD APPLICANT PROPOSES CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW 62,620 SQ. FT. (FLOOR AREA), 4 STORY, 92 ROOM HOTEL WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING. PROJECT INCLUDES A CONNECTOR ROAD ON ADJOINING PROPERTY TO AVIATION MALL RING ROAD. HOTEL WILL BE LOCATED ON A PARCEL OF GREATER THAN 2 ACRES. INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT WIL BE A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT BETWEEN 302.5-1-96.1 AND 302.5-1- 93.1 WITH THE FORMER REDUCED TO 2.0 ACRES AND THE LATTER TO BE INCREASED TO 4.32 ACRES. PROJECT INCLUDES WORK WITH AMBROSIA DINER FOR ACCESS AS LOT DOES NOT HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE ON ROUTE 254. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-9-040 & 179-10 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, NEW COMMERCIAL USE IN THE ESC ZONE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR SETBACKS/ROAD FRONTAGE AND SIGNAGE. PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE DEMOLITION PERMITS FOR FORMER HOWARD JOHNSON BUILDINGS 2002, 2005 & 2010; DISC 6-2017, AV 42-2017, SV 6-2017 WARREN CO. REFERRAL JUNE 2017 LOT SIZE 4.57 ACRES, 1.74 ACRES (UTILIZING 2.5 ACRES) TAX MAP NO. 302.5-1-96.1, 302.6-1-93.1 SECTION 179-9-040, 179-10 SITE PLAN NO. 47-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED — COORDINATED AMBROSIA DINER AGENT(S) BOHLER ENGINEERING OWNER(S) QUEENSBURY DINER, LLC ZONING LOCATION 518 AVIATION ROAD APPLICANT PROPOSES TO MODIFY THE ENTRYWAY AREA ALONG AVIATION ROAD AND INTERNAL ACCESS TO AMBROSIA DINER. PROJECT INCLUDES NEW ALIGNMENT OF DRIVEWAY, NEW ACCESS FOR DINER AND SITE WORK. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-9-120 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AMENDMENTS TO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE SP 53-2010 WARREN CO. REFERRAL JUNE 2017 LOT SIZE 2 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 302.5-1-97 SECTION 179-9-120 SITE PLAN NO. 48-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED — COORDINATED AVIATION MALL AGENT(S) BOHLER ENGINEERING OWNER(S) PCGF NEWCO, LLC ZONING LOCATION 578 AVIATION ROAD APPLICANT PROPOSES CONSTRUCTION OF A CONNECTOR ROAD THAT INTERSECTS AVIATION ROAD AND THE MALL. THE PROJECT INVOLVES DISTURBANCE OF 1.6 +/- ACRES AND A NEW ROADWAY OF APPROXIMATELY 17,500 +/- SQ. FT. THE ROAD WILL INCLUDE ACCESS FOR AMBROSIA DINER AND THE PROPOSED HOTEL AND CONNECT TO THE AVIATION MALL RING ROAD. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-9-020 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, NEW CONNECTOR ROAD SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. WARREN CO. REFERRAL JUNE 2017 LOT SIZE 48.35 ACRES, 1.74 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 302.5-1-92.11, 302.5-1-93.1 SECTION 179-9-020 MR. TRAVER-Because of the nature of the SEQR aspect of this application, we have to seek, we have to choose to seek Lead Agency Status, and at this point that's really all we can do until we get the responses back. If you look in your packet under that information we got from Staff, and actually Laura maybe you could review the tentative review process dateline for us so members know what to expect of this. MRS. MOORE-Okay. At this point the Planning Board would be seeking Lead Agency Status under coordinated review for all the identified projects. The next follow up is with the Zoning Board. The Zoning Board has the opportunity to consent to the Planning Board being Lead Agency. I have yet to see them take Lead Agency Status. So my guess is they'll consent tomorrow evening. The next item would be to wait the 30 days. It's potentially possible that we may have that information in prior to the 30 days, but it would still be a July meeting time for the applicant to re-appear, and it would be the Aviation Hospitality, Ambrosia Diner and Aviation Mall at that time. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. TRAVER-Okay. Good. Thank you. Any questions on that process by members of the Board? All right. Then I guess the next step for us would be to make a motion to seek Lead Agency Status. I would say we should go ahead and do that. RESOLUTION RE: ZBA RE: SEEKING LEAD AGENCY STATUS WHEREAS, the Town Planning Board is in receipt of three Site Plans, Special Use Permit, Area Variance and Sign Variance applications for: Applicant proposes construction of a new 62,620 sq. ft. (floor area), 4 story, 92 room hotel with associated parking. Project includes a connector road on adjoining property to Aviation Mall ring road. Included in the project will be a lot line adjustment between 302.5-1-96.1 and 302.5-1-93.1 with the former reduced to 2.0 acres and the later to be increased to 4.31 acres. Project includes work with Ambrosia Diner for access as lot does not have road frontage on Route 254. Pursuant to Chapter 179-9-040 & 179-10 of the Zoning Ordinance, new commercial use in the ESC zone shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Variance: Relief is sought for setbacks/road frontage and signage. Ambrosia Diner Applicant proposes to modify the entryway area along Aviation Road and internal access to Ambrosia Diner. Project includes new alignment of driveway, new access for Diner and site work. Pursuant to Chapter 179-9-120 of the Zoning Ordinance, amendments to previously approved site plan shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Aviation Mall Applicant proposes construction of a connector road that intersects Aviation Road and the mall. The project involves disturbance of 1.6 +/- acres and a new roadway of approximately 17,500 +/- sq. ft. The road will include access for Ambrosia Diner and the proposed hotel and connect to the Aviation Mall ring road. Pursuant to Chapter 179-9-020 of the Zoning Ordinance, new connector road shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Queensbury has determined to begin an environmental review process under the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA); WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Queensbury has identified the project to be an Unlisted Coordinated action for the purposes of SEQRA review pursuant to 6 NYCRR 617; WHEREAS, the Planning Board is the agency most directly responsible for approving the actions because of its responsibility for approving the land uses for the property; NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, The Planning Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby indicates its desire to be Lead Agency for SEQRA review of this action and authorizes and directs the Zoning Administrator to notify any other potentially involved agencies of such intent. MOTION TO SEEK LEAD AGENCY STATUS IN CONNECTION WITH SITE PLAN 45-2017, SPECIAL USE PERMIT 10-2017 AVIATION HOSPITALITY, LLC; AREA VARIANCE 42-2017, SIGN VARIANCE 6-2017 AVIATION HOSPITALITY, LLC; SITE PLAN 47-2017 AMBROSIA DINER; SITE PLAN 48-2017 AVIATION MALL. Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption, seconded by Jamie White. According to the resolution prepared by Staff. Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Ford, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-All right. So that clock is running now. We go back to our agenda. If you would like to take a couple of minutes to comment? We did review this prior to seeking Lead Agency, but if you have something to offer, you certainly can. We have a clock running on that process. All right. So welcome again. CHARLES DUMAS & JOSH O'CONNOR MR. DUMAS-Thank you for having us. Charles Dumas, Lemery Greisler. Josh O'Connor, Bohler Engineer. Bhavik Jariwala, Aviation Hospitality. Thank you for the referral on to the Zoning Board. I note here in the agenda that the Planning Board was going to provide a recommendation to the Zoning Board. Are you prepared to provide any kind of recommendation to the Zoning Board this evening? gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'IIIIu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. TRAVER-Well, that's something that we would look at at that date. MRS. MOORE-The recommendation isn't part of the request for Lead Agency. It comes at the next. MR. TRAVER-We have to wait and see what comes back, as a result of the different agencies participating in this process. Whatever we end up with, in terms of your project at that stage, may involve more variances. The ZBA may ask us to look at the request for variances in the context of site plan and Town Planning in general and perhaps make a recommendation to them on how we feel about. MR. DUMAS-Yes, I just wanted to clarify the last sentence on the agenda. MR. TRAVER-Sure. MR. FORD-There's a possibility of Board of Health involvement as well. MR. DUMAS-Yes, so I think Mr. Jariwala would be the first to tell you that timing for this project is really important and we talked to Staff about that. The hope is that we would be able to get back to the first meeting in July after the involved agencies that are notified have agreed to the Planning Board having Lead Agency Status. So it's our hope to be back on July 18tH MR. TRAVER-Yes, and at this stage I don't anticipate any agency challenging our Lead Agency Status. So your best bet in terms of ensuring the process moves forward with alacrity is to work with Laura and her staff at the Planning Office. MR. DUMAS-Yes, exactly. We probably would get on the phone and make some phone calls to the various involved agencies for the purposes of getting responses. MR. TRAVER-Yes, sure. MR. DUMAS-Are there any, knowing the project and knowing what it is we're up to, having spoken with you a few weeks back, are there any immediate questions or concerns that you have of us that we should be prepared to address when we come back before you? MR. FORD-Yes. Traffic, traffic, traffic. MR. DUMAS-In what regard? What is your essential concern? MR. FORD-I'm just going to leave it like that. MR. DUMAS-Okay. MR. TRAVER-Part of the issue is at this stage we are somewhat preliminary in that we have just requested Lead Agency Status. There is, and I'm sure Laura has explained the process to you, but there is a 30 day period for comments to come in and so on and it's possible, we're not saying this is going to happen, but it's possible there might be changes to your project design, to your site plan, as a result of some of that interaction. So it's really, we're not in a position this evening to comment beyond what we did when you came in for your preliminary discussions with us. I don't believe. I'm just speaking for myself. I'll let other Board members comment, but it's difficult, beyond the comments you've already received from us at this stage, because at this point we've started the clock on the Lead Agency Status and now we've just got to wait to see what comes back to us. MR. DUMAS-Let me just offer a couple of thoughts in response to your comment about traffic. We have submitted to DOT and they have approved the reconfiguration of the curb cut area by the Ambrosia Diner, and we also have submitted of course the engineering plans for the ring road connector which is a requirement of the Town for connectivity, which would ensure that left turns not be made out onto Aviation Road, as a matter of safety. MR. TRAVER-And those are the types of items that you can do while the rest of the process clicks on to help the process along. MR. DUMAS-Precisely. MR. FORD-1 didn't mean to be curt about just mentioning those three words, but it's a major concern. You're addressing them and you'll continue to address them. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'IIIIu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. DUMAS-Those are really forefront, and I appreciate the feedback to know really what's in the forefront of your mind. MR. TRAVER-You're probably aware, I know you're aware, that when the Ambrosia Diner was put in we had a great deal of discussion with Pyramid Corporation and the connector road to the Mall and the whole concern with traffic and so on, and this is an area of very intense traffic loading and all of that kind of thing, and as I recall from your first presentations to us, it's hoped that one of the byproducts of this is actually to alleviate some of the traffic problems that we're currently seeing before this project potentially is installed, but just be aware that many of the issues such as parking and, you know, infrastructure and all that kind of thing is going to be handled coming in the door by your design, that the traffic is a very dynamic, it's a very impactful thing to the citizens of the Town. So it is something that we, and it's somewhat subjective, because you can't always predict exactly, even though the reports come back and say it's only going to generate this many. In real life it can sometimes be different. MR. DUMAS-Exactly. MR. TRAVER-And so it's one of the things that we're concerned about, and as Tom said, I know that it's also something that you're concerned about, because if this is a horrible area to go to, people are going to avoid it, and that's not what you want. MR. DUMAS-If it's not accessible, it's not going to be economically feasible. MR. TRAVER-It's just not going to work, but at the same time I hope you can appreciate that we are in a bit of a holding pattern because we have now started the clock on this Lead Agency. MR. DUMAS-Exactly. MR. TRAVER-And we don't know where, we're looking at what you have before us now. We don't expect, I don't think, that it's going to change or change significantly, but we really have to kind of wait until you come back, and anything that you can do with Laura and her team or the other agencies that are involved to begin these various other interactions that you can perform in the background, is certainly going to be helpful to you, and possibly indirectly to us as we move to the site plan review. In the meantime we just have to do what we have to do. MR. SHAFER-Can we ask questions, Mr. Chairman? MRS. MOORE-I'd rather you didn't at this time because you're starting the clock. MR. SHAFER-There are a couple of deficiencies in the traffic report, I believe. MRS. MOORE-1 guess you can direct, I mean, I can feed that information back to the applicant. MR. TRAVER-Yes. Maybe you can contact Laura with those concerns and then as you continue to have discussions with the applicant. Because we are, we have, by our motion we have kind of said okay now we're going to wait. We started that clock running, which is to our advantage and the applicant's advantage because it does limit what we can comment on. MR. FORD-1 just want to offer a word of encouragement, and that is that we have an opportunity before us. Let's get it right. MR. DEEB-My take is, from our last conversation we had here, we talked about this at length, and no matter how it comes out, this is going to be an improvement. One way or the other it's going to be an improvement. MR. TRAVER-It certainly would appear so from what we've seen so far. MR. DEEB-Because it's a mess up there now. MR. DUMAS-It is. MR. DEEB-And I think it's going to do a lot to alleviate a lot of the problems up there and I'm looking forward to working with you to see if we can do something. MR. DUMAS-Absolutely. MR. TRAVER-Yes. So thank you very much. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. DUMAS-Words of encouragement are very welcome. Thank you. MR. TRAVER-And by the way, on your timeline, you should know that, as we sit here as a Planning Board, every application before us is an emergency. So, you know, we're sympathetic but we hear that a lot. It's we need to get this approved immediately, and we have no interest in keeping it on our agenda. So we just do our best. MR. DEEB-We do the best we can. MR. TRAVER-That's right. MR. DUMAS-Which is pretty darn good. Thank you. MR. TRAVER-All right. Thank you, gentlemen. All right. The next item on our agenda is a couple of recommendations. The first being William Rourke, Site Plan 40-2017. PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS: SITE PLAN NO. 40-2017 SEAR TYPE II WILLIAM ROURKE OWNER(S) SAME AS APPLICANT ZONING WR LOCATION 21 JAY ROAD APPLICANT PROPOSES A 1,935 SQ. FT. ADDITION TO EXISTING 494 SQ. FT. CAMP TO INCLUDE CRAWL SPACE FOR MECHANICALS AND AN ATTACHED GARAGE. PROJECT INCLUDES REMOVAL OF 300 SQ. FT. DETACHED GARAGE AND 60 SQ. FT. PORCH. PROJECT INCLUDES PERMEABLE PAVERS FOR DRIVEWAY. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-13-010 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, ADDITIONS TO STRUCTURES SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS REQUESTED FOR SETBACKS, PERMEABILITY AND EXPANSION OF NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE. PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE 1995 SEPTIC ALT.; AV 38-2017 WARREN CO. REFERRAL N/A SITE INFORMATION CEA LOT SIZE .29 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 289.10-1-13 SECTION 179-13-010 BILL & TORI ROURKE, PRESENT MR. TRAVER-Laura? MRS. MOORE-Okay. So this applicant proposes a 1,935 square foot addition to an existing camp that's 494 square feet. It does include a crawl space and mechanicals and an attached garage, and removal of detached garage and a 60 square foot porch. The variance relief is for setbacks, permeability, and expansion of a nonconforming structure. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. MR. ROURKE-My name is Bill Rourke. I've owned Rourke Surveyors for over 40 years and I'm trying to retire. I bought a camp up on Glen Lake about a year and a half ago, and next door to my brother Dick, and we, it's a small camp. We've always had the idea of adding on. So we're seeking relief for side line setback and permeability for the soil. There's been a garage on the side line and it's a foot and a half from the property, and our neighbors Jerry and Sue Higley are here, and I guess the, and we haven't really talked too much about it, but it's a 12 foot setback and the garage is like a foot and a half from the property and I was under the impression we could build on the footprint and I understand that's incorrect. The zoning is WR. So that's, we can talk about setbacks if you wish. We're requesting to build on the footprint of the garage. MR. TRAVER-Of the old garage? MR. ROURKE-Yes, and that was built probably 1926. My parents were one of the first people on the lake and they built around 1925. We've owned the property for a long time. MR. TRAVER-There are a lot of the old properties and lots, a lot of them are quite small because they were never intended to be anything but camps. It has been a trend that we've noticed over the years, particularly recent years, that people acquire these camps and because of the beautiful setting they would very much love to live there year round and it can sometimes be a struggle, on small lots particularly, putting a, you know, a quote unquote normal size house on them. So this is not something that's terribly unusual that we've confronted in the past. Okay. Anything else you wanted to offer at this point? dna gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. ROURKE-Just that permeability, we've suggested that we use paver blocks, and then there's a new company out I guess its paver blocks are 50% permeability, and this new pavement I guess is the same thing, 50%. MR. FORD-1 look for things like that. MR. TRAVER-Yes, we do. The lake, as you know, you want to live there because the lake is beautiful and we want to do what we can to take care of it, and those are the types of issues that help us do that. So we appreciate your considering that in your designs. Questions, comments from members of the Planning Board? MR. FERONE-Well, I know we're just making a recommendation to the Zoning Board, and not site plan review yet, but I was up there today and it's quite a narrow piece of property. MR. ROURKE-It is. MR. FERONE-1 was wondering what you're going to do with that driveway, because there's kind of a tree and kind of getting around that. MR. ROURKE-Unfortunately my brother just died Sunday and it's going to be the one driveway. It's going to be sold and it goes over my brother's property so there's, further down Jay Road there is the single driveway. MR. FERONE-Was it 23? MR. ROURKE-Yes. MR. FERONE-Okay. MR. ROURKE-21. MR. FERONE-21. MR. ROURKE-I'm probably going to take that tree down because it's, it'll probably be backed into. I'd like to take that tree down. Because it's right in the way. MR. TRAVER-Yes. MR. FORD-May we express our condolences. MR. ROURKE-Thank you. Thank you. MR. FORD-He was a good man. I knew him well. MR. MAGOWAN-Well, I looked at it with the garage property. It's nice but it is narrow. Where the garage sits now, it sits back further than where the bedroom's going to be coming out. MR. ROURKE-1 think it's the back of the garage now is going to be the back of the bedroom where it's on the plans. MR. MAGOWAN-Well, when I was looking at the plan, the bend there, the garage is like in the middle, all right, and your bedroom's actually, you know, the middle of the garage is right in the middle of the bend there, you know where it starts going back to the driveway. All right. The bedroom looks like it's maybe three feet forward from that bend, and I mean you're one foot six off and the house next door is, what, is it seven foot eight. MR. ROURKE-Is that on the south? MR. MAGOWAN-The Higley's, yes, and so I looked at this, the bedroom, and I mean, that's quite a bump out there, and, you know, as it is, you know, what's existing is noncompliant, but it's been there for so long. You're 21 foot 2 and a half inch by 19 foot 11 master bedroom, and the bathroom is 19 11 wide by 11 feet across, and then the closet's 6 feet by 19 foot 11. So you've got a big huge T going right across the property, and in all honesty I don't think that's fair to Higley's. That's a huge room. MR. ROURKE-It is. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. MAGOWAN-1 mean, it's a dream room, you know, but that puts it, to me, way too close to the neighbors, because it's actually shifting forward of where the garage is now, if you look at the picture. If you look at the picture where the bend of the property is halfway through the garage. So, you know, you're going to be looking in the back windows. MR. ROURKE-Well, I don't want to argue with you. I think the Higley's house is closer toward the, here's the bedroom. This is the, it's actually right adjacent to the garage. This dotted line on the north line is the north line of the garage. So what we're trying to do is use the footprint of the garage to set the footing of the bedroom now, and here's the Higley house about here. MR. MAGOWAN-1 see the existing garage on the print. I'm just going by the picture that I see here, and the garage is back toward the bend. See where the garage is, do you see where that bend is? MR. ROURKE-Yes. MR. MAGOWAN-That's where that dot is. MR. ROURKE-Correct. Here's the Higley house. MR. MAGOWAN-So from what I'm looking at the plans, you're in front of that dock and you're close to the house. MRS. MOORE-The survey doesn't show it any closer. MR. MAGOWAN-So the survey that he's showing, the bedroom and the garage overlap exactly the same, and it's, the existing garage and the new bedroom will be 1.6 foot away from that property line. MR. TRAVER-So it's the same footprint. MR. MAGOWAN-1 know, but where's the garage now? MRS. MOORE-The same footprint as that bedroom. MR. ROURKE-The same as the bedroom. MR. MAGOWAN-Directly across, but why am I looking at the picture and it's totally different? MRS. MOORE-It's not above. He's replacing the garage completely with the bedroom. MR. MAGOWAN-Now you're going with a second story. MRS. MOORE-No, there's no second story. MR. ROURKE-It's all one story. Well, we were going to put a basement, but we cannot put a basement under there. It's going to be a crawl space, five foot crawl space. MR. MAGOWAN-1 did see that. Well, I don't know. That's not making sense to me, but I think it's way too close. You're going from 500 square feet to 2,000 square feet. MR. ROURKE-I'm not arguing that it's a foot and a half off the property line and I'm not arguing that. MR. TRAVER-But your position, if I understand your position, there's an existing building from 1920, or thereabouts that's the same distance from the property line. So what you're proposing is, you're not moving further away from the property line, but you're not moving closer either. MR. MAGOWAN-You're also filling in the area where the garage is and where the existing house is. MR. ROURKE-Correct. MR. MAGOWAN-Which is going to be 12.5 feet, which meets the Codes. MR. ROURKE-Yes. nQ gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'IIIIu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. MAGOWAN-Now we're supposed to maintain all your stormwater runoff on your property an you're going to do that, and I'm not trying to bust your chops here . I mean, I have something that I have to follow, and from a 1.6 to a 2.5, 1 personally think this is way too big for the 50 feet across. MR. ROURKE-1 do not meet the permeability. It's supposed to be 25 or 75, and I'm down to 29 or 71. 1 do not make the permeability of the property either. I'm close but. MR. TRAVER-Yes, 75 is required and you're proposing 71. MR. ROURKE-Seventy-one. MR. FORD-Pretty big. MR. TRAVER-It is. Any other questions? MR. SHAFER-How many bedrooms do you have currently in your home? MR. ROURKE-There's actually, on the permit for years ago it's classified as a four bedroom and there's actually three. We've taken the upstairs and made it into one bedroom. So currently now it's a one bedroom, and we're proposing another one bedroom. So it'll be a two bedroom. MR. SHAFER-Can you describe the existing septic system for me? MR. ROURKE-It's, now have you received the letter from the engineer about the septic? MR. SHAFER-1 have everything that everybody else has. MR. ROURKE-And you received that. Correct? He sent a letter to Craig Brown and I have it somewhere. MR. MAGOWAN-Did that make it in our packets? MRS. MOORE-It should have. I know it was submitted. MR. TRAVER-1 don't remember seeing it. MR. ROURKE-It was from Hutchins. Tom Hutchins. MR. TRAVER-No, we don't have that. Did you receive it yet, Laura? MRS. MOORE-1 did. MR. TRAVER-You did, okay. Maybe you could brief us on the contents? MRS. MOORE-1 don't have it right handy, but it is, the septic system is a compliant system. MR. FORD-It is what? MRS. MOORE-A compliant, functioning system, yes, for the proposal. MR. FORD-The current one or the proposed one? MRS. MOORE-The current system is. MS. WHITE-The current system can handle the proposed? MRS. MOORE-Yes. MR. TRAVER-Right. MR. ROURKE-And we are going from four bedrooms to two bedrooms, 1,000 gallon septic tank. MR. MAGOWAN-Two 8 by 8 seepage pits. MR. ROURKE-Right. MR. SHAFER-And that's compliant? gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. FORD-What kind of a system is it? MRS. MOORE-1 apologize. I don't have the letter right in front of me. So it's something that I'd have to forward to the Board. MR. ROURKE-in the existing home there's a vault, and there's a pump in that vault that's fed by gravity from the existing home and it's pumped up to the existing road Jay Road. MR. TRAVER-And there's a field up there by the road. MR. ROURKE-And Glen Lake soil is loamy and sandy. So I don't recall when the system was put in, but it's a newer system. I've known all the owners all the way through. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Well, one suggestion. It sounds like a suggestion for moving forward with the application, would be to make sure that you have all of that data readily accessible because that will be a question that we will be asking again, and that the ZBA, I can assure you, will be asking with regard, because that potentially impacts under the impact of granting any variances. Stormwater and septic are a huge issue in any case, but especially in these small properties along Glen Lake. So that's something you'll need to be, and Laura will help. MR. ROURKE-1 probably have it. It's from Tom Hutchins. MR. TRAVER-Yes. MR. ROURKE-He e-mailed it to Craig Brown and Laura has seen the letter. MR. TRAVER-It's possible it has just arrived so recently that it didn't make it into our packets. It's just that those are significant issues that will need to be addressed and that will be a concern when we make our recommendation to the ZBA, we will be, I suspect, indicating that we want to make sure that those issues are addressed, or, you know, compliant or whatever, which appears from what you're saying that they are, but, you know, that's one of the things, before we get to site plan, we want to make sure that that's out of the way. MR. MAGOWAN-How old do you think it is, roughly? MR. ROURKE-I'm guessing probably 15. MR. FORD-One of the things, particularly around the watershed, we're always looking to try to make things better. MR. ROURKE-And I am, too. I've been around the lake. I grew up there. MR. FORD-That's one of the scopes that I look through, and that, and it also, our decisions, and we take this very seriously, are also precedent setting. When we start looking at 18 inches and side line setbacks and so forth, when we say yes, it becomes increasingly difficult in the future to ever say no, and there's times when we all should be saying no. MRS. ROURKE-We understand. MR. FORD-1 know you understand. MR. ROURKE-We're really getting down to talking with the Higley's about the, maybe in the public hearing ask them, and I am in agreement with the Higley's. MR. FORD-Thank you. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Anything else from members of the Board? Okay. Well, there is no public hearing on this because it is a ZBA recommendation. That will be when we get to Site Plan Review. MR. ROURKE-Okay. MR. TRAVER-That will happen. It just won't happen tonight, the public hearing aspect. All right. Let's see. We've talked about needing to confirm the validity of the septic system that's in place, whether that's compliant. It sounds like it is, but that's something that at least I'm concerned about. I'm assuming other members of the Board would want that in there. a� gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. FORD-Yes. MR. TRAVER-Are there any other concerns? MR. MAGOWAN-I'd like to see more of a stormwater plan. MR. TRAVER-Stormwater review. MR. MAGOWAN-And also see what we can do to maybe shrink down and get a little bit more space off the property line. MR. TRAVER-Okay. So the overall size is a concern. MR. SHAFER-1 feel the same way. MR. FORD-Yes. MR. SHAFER-It's too big for the 50 foot lot. Going from one thousand square feet to three thousand square feet seems like a lot. MR. TRAVER-Okay. So we'll let, we'll pass this along. MS. WHITE-It's 500 to 2500. Those are the measurements. Am I correct? MR. TRAVER-Yes, size, yes. MS. WHITE-Currently at 5 and we're looking at 25. MR. TRAVER-Okay. So we have that noted in our. MR. ROURKE-And we have the new well. MR. TRAVER-One other follow up to the septic issue. You mentioned a letter from the engineer. MR. ROURKE-Tom Hutchins. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Was that an inspection of the existing system in his report and what he observed in that inspection? Okay. That's good. MR. ROURKE-1 probably have it. MRS. ROURKE-We've had two deaths in the past week. MR. TRAVER-And again, it's not so much, because we're not in site plan, but it's something you just need to be prepared to discuss, because as you've heard it's a concern. You want to check that off and make sure that that's good. MR. ROURKE-Could I ask you, you recommend to the Zoning Board/ MR. TRAVER-Well, what's happening is that you're requesting variances which can only be granted, most of them, can only be granted by the Zoning Board. So a process has developed, and it varies from town to town, but in Queensbury what typically happens is the Zoning Board will hand the project to us and basically say, you know, what do you think about these, because they know that at some point we're going to be looking at Site Plan. So they kind of would like, if you will, a bit of feedback from us about generally, you know, do we sense any issues that are red flags from the planning perspective that they should consider from the zoning perspective when they review your request for those variances. That's what's going on tonight. We're not doing the whole site plan review. That comes later. So what we're doing is we're, in addition to the recoding of the transcript of our discussions with you tonight, the ZBA will have our recommendation where we do say, you know, there are a couple of issues that we talked with the applicant about that we think should be of focus, and here they are, and so you're about to hear those, and one of them is just making sure that the septic is compliant. You heard some comments about, you know, maybe the structure is too big. MR. MAGOWAN-Stormwater. MR. T RAVE R-Sto rmwate r, right. gp,,;�uVu`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. MAGOWAN-Planting. MR. TRAVER-Planning? MR. MAGOWAN-Plants. MR. TRAVER-Oh planting. We didn't have that. MR. MAGOWAN-We like our buffers. MR. TRAVER-All right. Any other items we want to list in our recommendation, our referral, rather, to the ZBA? Okay. I guess we're ready for that motion. MR. FERONE-Okay. RESOLUTION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: Z-AV-38-2017 WILLIAM ROURKE The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes a 1,935 sq. ft. addition to existing 494 sq. ft. camp to include crawl space for mechanicals and an attached garage. Project includes removal of 300 sq. ft. detached garage and 60 sq. ft. porch. Project includes permeable pavers for driveway. Pursuant to Chapter 179- 13-010 of the Zoning Ordinance, additions to structures shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Variance: Relief is requested for setbacks, permeability and expansion of non-conforming structure. Planning Board shall provide a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals. The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning Board to provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that require both Zoning Board of Appeals & Planning Board approval; The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application, the relief request in the variance application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and surrounding community, and found that: MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE NO. 38-2017 WILLIAM ROURKE: Introduced by George Ferone who moved its adoption, and b) The Planning Board, based on a limited review, has identified the following areas of concern: 1) Make sure the septic system is in compliance. 2) A stormwater review should be provided. 3) Concerns with the size of the home and lack of setback 4) Landscaping review. Motion seconded by Jamie White. Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Ford, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver NOES: Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan MR. TRAVER-All right. MR. ROURKE-Can I say I'm in a hurry? MR. TRAVER-You didn't have to. Everybody's in a hurry. All right. Next on our list for referral to the ZBA is Site Plan 44-2017 for O'Reilly Auto Enterprises, LLC SITE PLAN NO. 44-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED O'REILLY AUTO ENTERPRISES, LLC AGENT(S) BOHLER ENGINEERING OWNER(S) J & T TSAI, INC. ZONING CI LOCATION 682 GLEN STREET APPLICANT PROPOSES 7,453 SQ. FT. AUTO PARTS RETAIL BUSINESS. PROJECT INCLUDES TEAR DOWN OF AN EXISTING BUILDING AND SITE WORK TO CREATE TWO PARKING AREAS — ONE ACCESS FROM RT. 9 AND ONE ACCESS FROM GLENDALE AVE. (THIS IS A CORNER LOT). PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, NEW COMMERCIAL USE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'Illlu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� REQUESTED FOR BUILDING SETBACKS. PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE SEVERAL SIN PERMITS, SEVERAL COMM. REST. ALTERATION PERMITS AS FRIENDLY'S AND AS FIT FOOD FAST, DISC 5-2017, AV 41-2017 WARREN CO. REFERRAL JUNE 2017 LOT SIZE .76 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 302.7-1-28 SECTION 179-3-040 JOSHUA O'CONNOR & ROB REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT MRS. MOORE-So this applicant proposes to demolish a 2,500 square foot building and construct a 7,453 square foot auto parts retail store. This also includes creating two parking areas with access from Route 9 and Glendale Ave. Their variance request is for building setback. MR. TRAVER-All right. Thank you, Laura. Good evening. MR. O'CONNOR-Good evening. Joshua O'Connor with Bohler Engineering. I'm a professional engineer in the State of New York. I've been retained by O'Reilly Auto Parts for the sake of our site plan application. I'm joined here also by Rob Osterhoudt, also with Bohler Engineering. MR. TRAVER-Okay. MR. O'CONNOR-So we were here last month. Chris Boyea did the presentation for that. I was here for that, for a Sketch presentation. We did consider comments that the Board had and have submitted our complete application. So I'd just like to take a few minutes to go over the updates and a general site presentation. MR. TRAVER-Sure. MR. O'CONNOR-As you know the site's located at the southeast corner of Glen Street, at Route 9 and Glendale, which is a dead end street to Glen Street. The site's currently occupied by, as Laura said, an approximately 2500 square foot restaurant, I believe FX3, Fit Fast Food, formerly a Friendly's. The building is served by 39 parking stalls in its existing condition, and the building sits on the northwest corner of the parcel. The building currently is situated so that it's about 12.7 feet from the frontage on Glen Street and about 15.6 thereabouts frontage on Glendale, to the south is Enterprise an about 120 to the rear and the adjacent parcel on Glendale. Utilities are served, we have an existing sanitary structure and a sanitary main along Glen Street, water, gas, electrical, telephone along Glendale. We are now proposing 25 parking stalls. I believe we said 24 previously. We have, we're now showing. (static noise for about a minute or two of the transcript — unable to transcribe) Our survey's been updated to show it, and that, to a large extent, has driven the minor reconfigurations to the parking. We've also looked to get a little bit longer parking along the entrance in the front, and that's why you see these three stalls provided and rotated versus two that we had there before. It makes a bit more sensible circulation and layout. We also have, so I guess I'd like to address quickly the wetland buffers. We aren't proposing any construction in either of those buffers, construction work or anything. The building, as mentioned, is approximately 7500 square feet with a retail component to the front left side as you're looking at the plan, and warehousing and storage of parts to the rear. Those parts are then available for the retail customers that access to the front and some small vehicles that are used or part sales to local garages, shops and the like to the rear, and those operations are segregated in the building, and in that regard, a reduction in curb cuts and provision for deliveries and employees to access through a rear driveway that is specifically mentioned in our design guidelines. So I that regard we're compliant, and also reducing a lot of the wide curb cuts that are along Glendale now. We're very proud of this project in that we're able to offer a re-development of an existing site that's aged. Green space in this case is about the same. There's a slight reduction in green space, but I think it's important to note that the location of the green space is shifting. So currently the building is situated right on the corner and it's largely paved right around the building. MR. TRAVER-1 was going to say, I'm surprised that you say a reduction in green space. MR. O'CONNOR-Bearing in mind that's the site statistic as it pertains to the parcel that we control. That doesn't include an increase in green space in the right of way where there currently is impervious surfaces there, and those are being returned to green. So it's a net benefit when it comes to green, but again, as it pertains to the Code, we're looking at our site only. MR. TRAVER-Right. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. O'CONNOR-Another great benefit is we're decreasing on the load on your storm sewer, pardon me, the sanitary sewer, utilities and water. Obviously a retail establishment doesn't present nearly as high as load a generator for sewer, and in that regard, considerably less with eight traffic trips. We have been able to address the utilities. We're providing, as I said, water to Glen Street using the existing, gas to Glen Street as well, and we're working with National Grid for the exact location for electric and gas. As you know that could be a bit of a timely concern. One of the other, the parking reconfigurations, we previously had some parking here. There's an existing pole in the rear we're maintaining. We don't have an interest in moving that pole. There's a lot of trunk power to a lot of Route 9 through there, not really an ideal thing to shift the location of that pole. So we're leaving that as it stands. It won't be overhead. It'll be underground, by the way. So that'll be something that you'll see. As far as addressing stormwater, our charge is to reduce the peak rate of discharge. It is our intention to do that. We have had the first round of comments from Chazen on our stormwater design, and the site design on the whole, and we are working with Chazen to address some of their concerns, one of which was, you know, how are you effectively reducing it. We're making some revisions to our grading that will allow us to do that, and I have spoken at length with Chazen and do have their, at least at this point verbal. I haven't seen the plans yet, but a verbal understanding of what we're doing going forward to satisfy those comments. So I believe we'll be able to be in good order there in a very short period of time. So we are proposing a retention pond and that will allow our site discharges to maintain the existing drainage pattern to maintain the existing drainage pattern. Currently everything sheets off the existing parking lot onto adjoining Enterprise Rental Car. I know that in the past few years an application came forward for the Enterprise Rental Car, a swale was built along the rear, along their parcel to convey some of that off-site flow to the wetland. We expect we'll be able to decrease the load to that swale in all of those storm events by addressing retention which obviously wasn't done when Friendly's was there. So we do expect to see a benefit to our neighbor as far as that goes as well. Again, we're working out the fine details with Chazen at this point in time but I believe as far as that goes we're not too far and should be within days. MR. TRAVER-Very good, and what you're here before us tonight to really discuss, and thank you for that presentation on your responses to our previous questions, what we're looking at this evening is the relief and making a referral to the ZBA regarding the variances proposed, the setbacks. MR. O'CONNOR-That is correct, yes. MR. TRAVER-And at some point we would get into the detailed site plan review. MR. O'CONNOR-Correct, thank you. MR. TRAVER-And with that understood, do members of the Board have any questions? MR. FORD-1 just want to make sure that I understood correctly, because early on in your presentation you made reference to out of concern for the wetland we went from 24 parking spots to 25. Did I misunderstand what you said? MR. O'CONNOR-Pardon me. Our consideration of impacting the wetland buffer caused us to reconfigure the parking and in that reconfiguration we were able to realize a benefit to our client, which is an additional parking stall. Something we didn't do, we hadn't considered prior to that. MR. FORD-How is that a positive influence on wetland preservation? MR. O'CONNOR-Well, pardon me, we're able to not impact the wetlands with the layout that we have now. What it really amounted to is pulling our development back away from the wetland buffer caused us to re-work the front parking to offset the two stalls we lost and in reconfiguring the parking to offset those two stalls, we managed to get another, and that's what it amounts to, and that said, parking is one of the issues that we need to address with the ZBA, and that condition is more compliant than the 24 parking spots. MR. TRAVER-There's actually a note in our Staff comments that you've probably seen that says the plans show 25 spaces and 38 is required. MR. O'CONNOR-Yes. So when we made our Sketch presentation we had 24 on the plans. Obviously that's not in there. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. MAGOWAN-On that 38 for the parking, I've been to all the, you know, auto centers and it's, I don't think I've ever seen more than 10 cars in the store. I mean, and that's NAPA, Auto Zone, Advanced. MR. O'CONNOR-Those are the big ones anyway, and soon O'Reilly's as we're getting into the State of New York, and that said, you know, and I don't mean to make the hard pitch on our ZBA application as far as parking goes, but, you know, each commercial business and entity has a different model as far as that goes, you know, our retail space is not 7500 square feet. It's not 7500 square feet with a small back room. It's about 3,000 square feet with a lot of storage for spare parts. So there's a good justification for the decreased load in parking and I'm more than happy to make that to the ZBA. Our, the applicant is confident that they can operate the facility. In fact, I believe with the parking based upon their experience in 48 States and over 4500 stores they know that they can make it work with this. So we feel good about that application. As far as the specific variance, it's just real quickly, we are proposing to decrease nonconformances. It's a reduction in non-conformance. As stated the existing building is 12 and 15 feet from the frontages and we're decreasing that non-conformance with this application, and obviously one of the existing non-conformances is the lot obviously. That's not in our control. (Much static not able to transcribe) MR. TRAVER-Are there any concerns with the variances? All right. I guess, Mr. Secretary, we're ready for a motion. The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes 7,453 sq. ft. auto parts retail business. Project includes tear down of an existing building and site work to create two parking areas — one access from Rt. 9 and one access from Glendale Ave. (this is a corner lot). Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, new commercial use shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Variance: Relief is requested for building setbacks. Planning board shall provide a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals. The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning Board to provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that require both Zoning Board of Appeals & Planning Board approval; The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application, the relief request in the variance application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and surrounding community, and found that: MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE NO. 41-2017 O'REILLY AUTO ENTERPRISE, LLC: Introduced by George Ferone who moved its adoption, and a) The Planning Board, based on a limited review, has not identified any significant adverse impacts that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal. The variance for the proposed setbacks, we would like to add also that relief is also requested for parking requirements where 38 is required and 25 spaces are proposed. Motion seconded by Thomas Ford. Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Ford, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-All right. You're off to the ZBA. MR. O'CONNOR-Thank you very much. MR. TRAVER-The next and last item on our agenda for referrals to the ZBA is Subdivision Preliminary Stage 11-2017 and Final Stage 12-2017 Michael Altare. SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 11-2017 SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE 12-2017 MICHAEL ALTARE OWNER(S) SAME AS APPLICANT ZONING WR LOCATION 88 & 92 EAGAN ROAD APPLICANT PROPOSES TO SUBDIVIDE A 4.04 ACRE PARCEL INTO TWO LOTS — LOT 1 TO BE 2.02 ACRES TO MAINTAIN EXISTING BUILDINGS NAD HOUSE & LOT 2 TO BE 2.02 ACRES TO REMAIN VACANT FOR FUTURE HOME. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 183 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SUBDIVISION OF LAND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS „a gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� SOUGHT FOR LACK OF ROAD FRONTAGE. PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE 1993 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, AV 40-2017 WARREN CO. REFERRAL N/A FOR SUBDIVISIONS LOT SIZE 4.04 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 309.17-1-2 SECTION CHAPTER 183 CHRIS BELL & MICHAEL ALTARE, PRESENT MRS. MOORE-The applicant proposes to subdivide an existing 4.04 acre lot into two lots, each equaling 2.02. The requested relief is from the lack of road frontage existing on Eagan Road which is a private drive, and the existing lot, or the lot that they're proposing, the existing house is actually past the existing. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Good evening. MR. ALTARE-I'm Michael Altare, 92 Eagan Road. MR. BELL-And I'm Chris Bell. We're subdividing the lot and I will be building on the lot. MR. TRAVER-Okay, and you're here tonight because you need a variance for no road frontage, correct? MR. ALTARE-Right. MR. TRAVER-And so we're taking a look at that. Can you explain the reasoning and the history behind why there's no road frontage? MR. ALTARE-Technically it's a private road, but the land goes across the road but there's no road frontage because it's all land. MR. BELL-Along with all the other adjacent houses on that end of Eagan Road, I didn't know until I went there that we didn't have road frontage, but it turned out we didn't. MR. TRAVER-Yes, it's a technicality. MR. BELL-It's a paved road. MR. TRAVER-So who maintains it? MR. BELL-Well, it's a funny thing. It is a private road, but mistakenly probably about eight years ago the Town paved it. So they paved a road that they probably really shouldn't have paved. So according to what I've been told that the Town has access to the road to use it for emergencies, but we own the road. MR. TRAVER-Okay, and what about plowing and salting in the wintertime? Does the Town do that as well? MR. BELL-They plow it, yes. MR. TRAVER-Interesting. Wow. MR. FERONE-1 was down there again today, I apologize. They have a right of way to go on there? MR. BELL-There's camps and stuff that go down to the river, and there's a right of way. MR. DEEB-You could be opening a can of worms there. MR. TRAVER-Well, we didn't do it. MR. DEEB-We didn't. MR. BELL-We came home one day and there was blacktop and we're like, who blacktopped here today? Forever it was just a dirt road and we filled in the holes. MR. TRAVER-Well that's an interesting situation. So you have a Town paved and maintained road that isn't considered road frontage. So you're here to get a variance. You're exactly right. It's a pre-existing condition. I don't know, this may seem an odd question, but if there .--„q gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� were some mechanism by which you could pass ownership of the road to the Town in a formal way so that they would be responsible for maintaining it legitimately, would you consider doing that, just the road? MR. ALTARE-The problem being with that is that there's actually a parcel of land that's before us that our neighbors own. So each person owns their section. MR. TRAVER-So you would be landlocked. It wouldn't help. MR. ALTARE-Right. MR. TRAVER-1 understand. All right. I withdraw the observation. MR. MAGOWAN-And then you're going to have property on either side of the road. MR. ALTARE-And the property that'll be on the other side of the road is so minute that you can't do anything with it. MR. TRAVER-Right. Okay. Interesting. Wow. All right. That context being said, is there anything that we want to include in our referral to the ZBA? Asking them for lack of road frontage on in effect their road. MR. MAGOWAN-Well, once they explain it to them too, they'll probably see it too. MR. TRAVER-That's going to be an interesting conversation. All right. Well, then I guess we're ready for our motion. RESOLUTION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: 40-2017 MICHAEL ALTARE The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes to subdivide a 4.04 acre parcel into two lots — Lot 1 to be 2.02 acres to maintain existing buildings and house & Lot 2 to be 2.02 acres to remain vacant for future home. Pursuant to Chapter 183 of the Zoning Ordinance, subdivision of land shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Variance: Relief is sought for lack of road frontage. Planning Board shall provide a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals. The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning Board to provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that require both Zoning Board of Appeals & Planning Board approval; The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application, the relief request in the variance application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and surrounding community, and found that: MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE NO. 40-2017 MICHAEL ALTARE: Introduced by George Ferone who moved its adoption, and a) The Planning Board, based on a limited review, has not identified any significant adverse impacts that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal. Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Ford, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-All right. You're off to the ZBA for them to consider the variance not variance for the lack of road frontage. MR. BELL-All right. Thank you very much for your time. MR. ALTARE-Thank you. MR. TRAVER-All right. That concludes our referral applications to the ZBA. Next we're under New Business. And the first item under that is Charles Kane, Site Plan 41-2017. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� NEW BUSINESS: SITE PLAN NO. 41-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED CHARLES KANE AGENT(S) ETHAN HALL OWNER(S) PILGRIM LAND HOLDING CORP. ZONING CI LOCATION 973 ROUTE 9 APPLICANT PROPOSES TO UPGRADE TWO EXISTING AUTO SERVICE BUILDINGS — 1,633 SQ. FT. SERVICE & 1,251 SQ. FT. SERVICE & OFFICE. PROJECT INCLUDES AUTO SALES, SERVICE AND RENTAL. THE 1,633 SQ. FT. BUILDING TO BE USED FOR AUTO DETAILING, THE 1,251 SQ. FT. BUILDING FOR AUTO SERVICE AND OFFICE. PROJECT INCLUDES UPDATED PARKING, LIGHTING, SIGNAGE, NEW LAWN AREA AT SOUTHEAST CORNER AND REDUCED SIZE OF CURB CUT. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, NEW COMMERCIAL USE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE SP 53-88; SV 71-2002 WARREN CO. REFERRAL JUNE 2017 LOT SIZE .46 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 296.13-1-19 SECTION 179-3-040 ETHAN HALL, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT; CHARLES KANE, PRESENT MR. TRAVER-Laura? MRS. MOORE-Okay. The applicant proposes to upgrade two existing auto service buildings. One is 1633 square feet for service and the second building is 1251 square feet which will include service and office. The project includes the sales and service of vehicles as well as rental and detailing. MR. TRAVER-Thank you. Good evening. MR. HALL-Good evening. For the record Ethan Hall, principle with Rucinski Hall Architecture. With me tonight is Charles Kane, owner of Kane Motors and U Drive Rental. The project is over on Route 9, it's the old, former Queensbury Tire building right in front of the Glen Drive-in, and it's basically fagade alterations to the existing buildings, cleaning up the, can't do anything but make them look better at this point. Clean them up, clean up the surfaces, the parking surfaces, do some re-striping and it's going to be used mostly for Mr. Kane's rental, vehicle rental business and a few spaces for auto sales. MR. TRAVER-Okay. What kind of vehicles do you rent? MR. KANE-Well, I own a rent-a-wreck in Poughkeepsie. It's called Rent-A-Wreck. Things changed, the bakery we were renting and this became I think a little bit more, better building, you know, that would lend itself to it, and at the time I was finishing up my business down there, now I'm approaching it, but, yes, Rent-A-Wreck, for some of the members, a few years ago when I came up against you guys and talked to you about it it's a national franchise and they rent used cars. We rent good, clean used cars, in fact a lot less than what Enterprise, you know, and Hertz and the rest of them charge, and we're a lot more liberal to the people that we rent to. Because, you know, Hertz and Avis and Enterprise, you know, they do a check of your license if you have a lot of bad speeding tickets and stuff, also they do a credit check and a lot of people they want credit cards. We don't ask for that, we like it but we'll take debit cards, we take cash. So we're a simpler rental car company to people in the mid to lower price range that people can afford. So, and then plus we offer stuff that they don't, you know, pickup trucks, if somebody needs to, you know, maybe go to the dump on the weekends or a cargo van if they're moving a mattress or something. A 15 passenger van, you know, if somebody wanted to go to the, you know, to Saratoga to the races and so on. So and then of course the cars. So it's a wide variety of things. Only I'm going to be divorcing myself from Rent-A-Wreck. I'm going to be opening, I already have my own. It's going to be U Drive auto rental. And this way I'll be able to be a little bit more free to do what I want and not be under the Rent-A-Wreck franchise, which I was for 19 years, we were one of the largest in the State. We had about 70 cars in the fleet down in Poughkeepsie. So I think it will be good here in Queensbury for the people that live here in the surrounding areas because I did a little information, you know, there's Enterprise up there, and they're really busy, and again, I think we can offer a lot lower priced vehicle and a variety of vehicles, you know, like the pickups and the mini vans and cargo vans and 15 passengers, and then also maybe we'll be able to help out some of the people that come up to Lake George, some of the tourists or whatever, you know, they might want to rent a convertible or something. So primarily I would like to utilize that building for that, with the accessory of maybe selling a couple of used cars, and when I say that, you know, sometimes the rentals, they get a little older, we like to sell them at a real low price. Sell one or two of them, and maybe a couple of, you know, to fill in on the slow months of car rental. It's always good to have a little backup if you can sell a car or two, but primarily the auto rentals, and that's what I'd like to do. ••a gp,,;�uVu`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. TRAVER-I'm curious. With the customer profile you're dealing with versus an Enterprise or whatever, what does that do to your insurance rate? MR. KANE-Well, it's not too bad. Poughkeepsie actually, what they do is they, this insurance company that I use, and there's very few insurance companies that we have because it's kind of a risky thing, you know, there's not a lot of insurance companies that like to insure taxi companies and stuff. So we kind of fall in that, but they charge based on the geographical area. Like the City of Poughkeepsie, it's a city, you know, and you know the type of people there. So I was surcharged a little bit from there, but actually I got quotes up here, and because it's up in the North Country and I guess they think that people drive a little nicer and it's not close to New York City where people go when they're in the Poughkeepsie area, and it's like 70% less. It's a lot less expensive, yes. MR. TRAVER-Interesting. MR. KANE-Yes. So it is. So it's geographical. I mean, if you're right in New York City, I know some of the guys were paying $300 or $400 per car per month, and that's just liability, and I was paying around $100 in Poughkeepsie and up here I think it's like $50 or so. MR. FORD-Where is the closest location that would be comparable to what you're proposing? MR. KANE-To me as far as competition you mean? Well, you know, I don't think there's too many around here. There was one in Albany which I don't know if they're still, a lot of the Rent- A-Wrecks, they used to have about 5 or 600, you know, they were the largest used car rental agency, and they're the oldest in the country, but now they're down to about 200. So they're losing ground. So I don't think I have any competition whatsoever. MR. FORD-1 just want to voice a concern. We do not want Queensbury to be another Poughkeepsie. MR. KANE-No, no, it's not going to be. What I'm doing is I'm renting, you know, cars to the community, and it's not going to be, you know, the clientele is totally different than Poughkeepsie. We're going to keep a small, it's going to be a small operation. It's not going to be, you know, the operation that I had in Poughkeepsie where there was a large amount of cars. I don't think there'll be that much need for it as there is in a small, as it was in Poughkeepsie because you know that's a small town. MR. FORD-How many cars are you anticipating? MR. KANE-I'm probably going to do 25 to 30. That's all, which isn't much, and that's going to be a variety. That's going to be cars. It's going to be pickup trucks. MR. FORD-Yes, I didn't mean cars, vehicles. MR. KANE-Vehicles, I know. Unfortunately rental car companies call them cars, but, yes, they should call them vehicles, but I think it's something that will fill the need here. I mean, you know, there's very, you know, everything is, Hertz and Avis, there's very few, if any at all, car rental that rent to normal people that can afford it. So we don't ask for credit cards. We will take them, but we try to help the people that don't, you know, that don't come up with Hertz and Enterprise and Avis's stringent policies, because they really make it tough. You have to have credit cards. You have to have car insurance. You have to have good credit and all that other stuff. MR. FORD-You describe your clientele well. MR. HALL-The only place around Town that I can think of, and, Dave, you may be able to shed light. Does Ringers over in Hudson Falls still rent vehicles? I think that would be the closest, that would be the closest thing that I could think of, off the top of my head, around here. I know that Ringers does sell pre-owned cars. MR. KANE-So there is one. MR. HALL-Yes, Hudson Falls. MR. KANE-What we do is, you ask about the clientele. I rented to, I think everybody knows Ringo Starr from the Beatles. We rented 15 passengers to a couple of local Poughkeepsie theaters that, you know, so a couple of major stars, you know, Ringo Starr was in there, the band YES. We also rented for a long term to FDR's grandson, Franklyn Delano Roosevelt's gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� grandson, and he's got a lot of money. We've rented to some prominent people. Rent-A- Wreck is funny. They started out in Los Angeles, California, and I'm using Rent-A-Wreck, it's a. MR. DEEB-You're not going to be Rent-A-Wreck. MR. KANE-We are. That's the same thing. It's a used car rental. MR. DEEB-Use your own personality. Don't use the other. MR. KANE-I will, believe me because I've done it for 19 years. I know, but what I'm trying to say is like the used car rental agency, let me put it that way, a lot of prominent people, movie stars when it was initiated out in California, would rent there because they didn't want to be associated with the limousines and the big, you know, Mercedes and stuff. So they would be incognito. So getting back to your answer with the type of clientele, anybody from musicians and famous people to, you know, the grandson of FDR to, you know, just regular people that want a good value. So that's the clientele. MR. MAGOWAN-You're making it affordable. MR. KANE-We rent to people that Enterprise. MR. MAGOWAN-And it's not like they're banged up and rusty and falling apart. MR. KANE-No, no. MR. MAGOWAN-They're a little higher mileage car. Instead of getting into a rental car that's only got 2100 miles on it, they get in it and they have, what, 23 or 25,000? MR. KANE-Or more. MR. MAGOWAN-But as long as it drives straight and it's inspected, I mean, and I can save 50%. MR. KANE-Yes, and it's simple. It's a good business and we help the people out considerably. It's a fun business. MR. FORD-Is there any history, and I know this is where you're coming from with Rent-A- Wreck, and you're not going to duplicate that. How much of an association is there between the Rent-A-Wreck usage and drug trafficking? MR. KANE-Drug trafficking? As far as what? MR. FORD-Trafficking drugs. MR. KANE-Trafficking drugs with vehicles? Well, it would be the same, you know, the same question, you know, you could apply that to any rental car company. We're in business 19 years and never really had any problems with drug trafficking or anything. What we do also, all these cars are going to be equipped with a GPS system in them. So we're going to be able to track and know exactly where these vehicles are. So, you know, if somebody isn't paying, we know where to get it and pick it up, or if they're going to, we can get it back, and we know if they're going to places that we don't want them to be. So we track the vehicles to try and insure that there's no. MR. FORD-1 like that idea. MR. KANE-Yes, so that there's no foul play or anything like that. MR. MAGOWAN-1 was going to say, you have to have some insurance. Do you also have that switch where you can just kill the ignition? MR. KANE-Exactly, and that's a good thing. There's two models that you can get. There's one that just has the GPS that you can follow it from your computer. You just type it in, Car Number Two and, boom, you know, you can see where it is, but for a couple of dollars more you can deactivate the car, and I'm going to get that dual purpose, and of course you don't deactivate it while the guy's driving or anything like that. MR. MAGOWAN-Absolute does that, I think. People pay by the week for the car. a� gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. KANE-A lot of used car dealers do that when they do buy, and I don't get into that because that's a shady business to buy here and pay here. Then you're dealing with, but a lot of buy here pay here car dealerships do that because, you know, they're dealing with some shady people, but, yes, I'm going to have that option also. Not only am I going to have the GPS so I can follow, see where these guys are going, and make sure, you know, they're doing what they're supposed to do. They'll be constantly monitored, and I can even get it on my I Phone at home. I can watch it at home after hours, but, yes, I'm going to have that interrupting system there, so, you know if they're driving all around and whatever, when they do shut the car off we can shut it off. MR. FORD-How great a distance is that? MR. KANE-Well, geez, it's probably quite far. MR. TRAVER-It works on a cellular network, does it not? MR. HALL-The kill switch. MR. TRAVER-So it's essentially anywhere you have cell signal. MR. KANE-Right, but what I'm going to do is, like I did with my other rental car company. I won't mention the name. I always keep a 250 mile radius, for two reasons. That keeps it close to home, and, you know, if somebody wants to go to Florida or something, let them go to the big guys. We're for a small neighborhood car rental for families and we may do some business with the visitors to Lake George during the busy months, and we like to keep them within a 250 mile radius. MR. TRAVER-That's part of your rental agreement. MR. KANE-That's part of the rental agreement. In the rental agreement it says that, you have to stay within 250 miles, and it protects me in a way, because, you know, if there is a mechanical breakdown, you know, it's a long tow bill and they are used cars, not that they wouldn't make it, but we want to keep them, they're for local traveling, and, you know, like I said, the pickup trucks, a lot of people, they're very popular. They rent them on the weekends, cargo vans, or 15 passengers we rent to a lot of churches and everything like that for functions and stuff. So we have a wide variety of things. So we don't want them going too far. We just want them to stay, you know, locally if they're car's in the shop or getting repaired, you know, or whatever the case may be, or if they're in, to provide that service with them. MR. FORD-Thank you. MS. WHITE-So you mention in here that the colors will be staying the same, the maroon and the sand? MR. HALL-No, no. You talked about a light tan, sand color, neutral color. MS. WHITE-So they will be more neutral? MR. HALL-Yes, yes, the red is going away. MS. WHITE-That's gone. MR. HALL-The maroon is gone. MS. WHITE-What about this large sign? It sounds like that's kind of grandfathered in, Laura? MRS. MOORE-The existing sign that says Hancock, that's grandfathered in. MS. WHITE-What about the Queensbury Tire.? So it won't be that big? MRS. MOORE-Unless the applicant pursues a Sign Variance. At this time they're limited on the size of that sign. MR. TRAVER-And that's something that I talked with the secretary about earlier. We're going to put into the motion. MS. WHITE-Thank you. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. TRAVER-You'll notice in the Staff comments about halfway down it says signage for the building on the south property line has not been developed as of yet and will need to meet the 30 square feet for a wall sign. MS. WHITE-1 was just looking at the notes that were kind of written on here. To make sure which one was changing and which one was. MR. MAGOWAN-What size is that Queensbury Tire up there? MR. HALL-It's more than 30 feet. MR. MAGOWAN-It's about 3 by 12? MR. HALL-No. It's closer to about 15 long and about 30. So it's just over 30 square feet, but the one, the Hankook one on the front is a compliant sign, and the pole sign is going away. The big pole sign and the planter out front, that all goes away. So it's limited to what's on the fagade. MR. FERONE-I'm glad Jamie asked about the color. That was one of my questions, and what's nice is that you're going to be fixing up that property. It's a little bit of a blight right now, but it's in an area of Route 9 that a number of buildings were refurbished and, a spa came in, a deli. MR. KANE-That's the only sore thumb in that corridor, and, boy, that's going to be so beautiful. It's going to match the two buildings across the street. It's going to be, it's not even going to look like an auto repair. It's going to look like a salon. It's going to be beautiful. MR. FERONE-And that was my other question. So you're going to do car sales, the rentals you talked about, service and detail. Is that going to be just for your cars? MR. KANE-Yes. We're not doing, the office and the two bay garage we're going to do detailing from there. It's a little quieter and cleaner if we have customers in there. That's just washing and vacuuming, just cars that come back dirty, and, you know, polishing them up and cleaning, and then the other building, the three bay, is going to be again, just for servicing our own vehicles. We're not doing outside, you know, work at all. It's just all in-house, and I'm sure I'll be sending a lot of work out, too, and we're not going to be doing any motor work or transmission work or dirty. There's not going to be oil changes or anything like that. MR. FORD-That's what I was just going to ask about oil changes. MR. KANE-No, no, and I don't do that with any of my buildings in Poughkeepsie. I own two small used car dealerships and I forbid that. I mean, for $20, you know, you can go down and get an oil change and they, you know, they get rid of the oil. It's just a filthy thing, and we're not going to be doing any major repair at all, but, you know, just checking, you know, maybe a break job, an alternator, a battery, you know, small, sometimes if a power window doesn't work. Very minor servicing just for our rentals, and that's it. No outside work at all. MR. TRAVER-Any other questions, comments from the Board at this stage? There is a public hearing on this application. Is there anyone in the audience that's here to address the Planning Board on this application? Could you come up and get on the microphone, please, for the record? PUBLIC HEARING OPENED BOB SEARS MR. SEARS-Just one comment. My name's Bob Sears. I'm involved with this as a broker. I just wanted to comment. A good friend of mine who's well off, he never rents from the large rental agencies. He always rents from Rent-A-Wreck. He says why am I going to spend all that money when I could get in the same type of car and go wherever I want to go for half the price, and that's one reason why he's well off. That's all I have to say. MR. TRAVER-All right. Thank you. Any written comments, Laura? MRS. MOORE-There were no written comments. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then we will close the public hearing on this application. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED MR. TRAVER-This is an Unlisted SEQR application so we have a SEQR review that needs to be reviewed. Are members feeling that there are any SEQR concerns related to this application? MR. FERONE-Staff noted one question that needs to be addressed in the motion. Question Two needs to be updated to say yes. MR. TRAVER-Okay. MRS. MOORE-In addition, since the applicant has provided additional detail about the actual operations, the current resolution talks about auto detailing and auto sales, and the terminology may be better using the work vehicle instead of the word auto. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Good point. MR. FORD-Good point. MRS. MOORE-And the applicant has also indicated it is for the vehicles that they rent and own versus outside services, and it is the option of the Board to include that in the materials. If the applicant ever wishes to do outside service they would have to come back for a modification. I don't know if the Board wants. MR. FORD-1 think that should be included because that's what the applicant is proposing. MR. TRAVER-Yes, good point. MRS. MOORE-So you should amend the SEQR resolution to reflect that and your following resolution, so they read the same. MR. TRAVER-Okay. MS. WHITE-Makes sense. MR. TRAVER-Yes, with regard to Question Two on SEQR Part One, that needs to be amended by the applicant. MRS. MOORE-That can be amended by the applicant. I have the application here, and all it's saying is review is needed by the Town of Queensbury. MR. TRAVER-By the Town of Queensbury. All right. MR. HALL-Can I clarify that? MR. TRAVER-Sure. MR. HALL-It says does the proposed action require a permit approval, funding from any other governmental agency. MRS. MOORE-And I clarified that with the DEC and they require it to be any agency. It's in their rules. MR. HALL-Because I was thinking any agency other than you guys? Who else other than you guys has to look at this? MRS. MOORE-I understand. Okay. So, yes, we will amend that to say yes, and Town of Queensbury Planning Board, MR. TRAVER-We'll consider that amended. Okay. We do have a resolution. MR. FERONE-So I don't need to mention Question Two to be modified? MRS. MOORE-No, you do not. MR. FERONE-Okay. RESOLUTION GRANTING NEGATIVE SEQR DEC SP #41-2017 CHARLES KANE gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� The applicant proposes to upgrade two existing vehicle service buildings — 1,633 sq. ft. service & 1,251 sq. ft. service & office. Project includes vehicle sale, service and rental. The 1,633 sq. ft. building to be used for vehicle detailing, the 1,251 sq. ft. building for vehicle service and office. Project includes updated parking, lighting, signage, new lawn area at southeast corner and reduced size of curb cut. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, new commercial use shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act; The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations of the Town of Queensbury; No Federal or other agencies are involved; Part 1 of the Short EAF has been completed by the applicant; Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of Queensbury Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse impacts on the environment, and, therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be prepared. Accordingly, this negative declaration is issued. MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SITE PLAN 41-2017 CHARLES KANE. Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption. As per the resolution prepared by staff. 1. Part II of the Short EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board. 2. Part III of the Short EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify potentially moderate to large impacts. Motion seconded by Thomas Ford. Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: MR. FERONE-One modification is to change the reference to the use of the word car to vehicle. The word vehicle should be used instead. AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Ford, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-All right. Next we have the Site Plan resolution. RESOLUTION APPROVING SP #41-2017 CHARLES KANE The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes to upgrade two existing vehicle service buildings — 1,633 sq. ft. service & 1,251 sq. ft. service & office. Project includes vehicle sale, service and rental. The 1,633 sq. ft. building to be used for vehicle detailing, the 1,251 sq. ft. building for vehicle service and office. Project includes updated parking, lighting, signage, new lawn area at southeast corner and reduced size of curb cut. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, new commercial use shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code; As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation; The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 06/20/2017 and continued the public hearing to 06/20/2017, when it was closed, The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 06/20/2017; The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval, MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 41-2017 CHARLES KANE; Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption; Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions: 1) Waivers have not been requested. 2) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution. a) If application was referred to engineering, then engineering sign-off required prior to signature of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans; b) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site improvements, c) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and Codes personnel; d) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work; e) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution; f) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy; g) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible. h) That vehicle repairs and detailing will only be for vehicles that are for rent or sales through the business. i) That we will need to meet the 30 square foot for the wall sign. Motion seconded by Thomas Ford. Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: MR. TRAVER-Any questions on that motion? MS. WHITE-What about the limitation that we just discussed? I didn't hear that. MR. TRAVER-Limitation on? MS. WHITE-Only providing service for vehicles that are owned. Didn't we talk about putting that in there? MR. TRAVER-Well, it's part of the application. MRS. MOORE-But it's not, right now in that zone if someone says I'm going to do auto sales and service it's for anybody. MR. DEEB-So we've got to amend the resolution. MR. TRAVER-All right. So we'll add that condition of approval to the motion. MR. FERONE-I'll amend the motion to include that only vehicle repairs and detailing will be for cars that are for rent or sales through the business. And we also need to put in there that they will meet the 30 square foot for the wall sign. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. TRAVER-Good point. MR. TRAVER-All right. So we have a motion made and seconded. Any other comments? MRS. MOORE-Just confirming that you're changing the reference from auto to vehicle. MR. DEEB-We did. MR. TRAVER-We did. Yes, thank you, though, for that, and, thank you, Jamie, for bringing that up. All right. Any other questions on the motion, then? Maria, can we have the vote please. AYES: Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Ford, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-Good luck. MR. KANE-Thank you very much, Board, I appreciate it. MR. DEEB-Also, one other comment. I've sold buy here, pay here cars myself. I don't consider myself shady. MR. MAGOWAN-So welcome to the hood. MR. DEEB-Just for your information. MR. KANE-Thank you. MR. TRAVER-The next item on our agenda is also under New Business. It is Site Plan 42- 2017 for Larry Tracy, Jr. doing business as Adirondack Chainsaw Carvings. SITE PLAN NO. 42-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED LARRY TRACY, JR. d/b/a ADIRONDACK CHAINSAW CARVINGS OWNER(S) ED MOORE, SR. ZONING CI LOCATION 1439 STATE ROUTE 9 APPLICANT PROPOSES TO USE A 372 +/- SQ. FT. AREA TO OPERATE AN EXTERIOR OPERATION WOOD CARVING BUSINESS. PROJECT INCLUDES A 7' X 12' UTILITY TRAILER ON SITE AND DISPLAY PIECES. NO CHANGES TO THE SITE, LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING, STORMWATER OR SIGNAGE. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, NEW COMMERCIAL USES SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE SP 46-1986 ADD WOOD CARVING BUSINESS; SP 50-2014, MULTIPLE SIGNS & INT. ALT. FOR COMM. TENANT WARREN CO. REFERRAL JUNE 2017 LOT SIZE 4.11 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 288.1-55 SECTION 179-3-040 LARRY TRACY, PRESENT MR. TRAVER-Laura? MRS. MOORE-This applicant proposes to use approximately a 372 square foot area to operate a wood carving business. This will be an exterior operation. The project includes a seven by twelve utility trailer on the site, display pieces and some canopies. There's no changes being proposed to the site for landscaping, lighting, signage or stormwater. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. MR. TRACY-Good evening. MR. TRAVER-Do I recall that we reviewed this last year? MR. TRACY-No. MR. TRAVER-A very similar. MR. TRACY-On the same site that I am proposing to have my business was a food truck. That was two years ago. MR. TRAVER-No, it was. ,�aa gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'IIIIu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. MAGOWAN-There was carving there years ago and then it went to the food truck. MR. TRACY-Right. MR. MAGOWAN-Did you carve there before. MR. TRACY-1 did carve there, but that wasn't me. That was a different. That was a guy I used to work with. MR. MAGOWAN-Boy there's a lot of you carvers. MR. TRAVER-There is, isn't there? Yes. MR. TRACY-Yes. He started like in the late 90's, early 2000's until I believe 2015. And then he was gone and the food truck came along. MR. TRAVER-1 thought I had remembered having a similar discussion about that site. So anyway. I'm sorry to interrupt. Go ahead with your plan. MR. TRACY-That's what I'm proposing to set up my studio. I've been carving for 14 years. This is the most ideal location that a chainsaw carver could have. MR. DEEB-Where are you now? MR. TRACY-Right now I'm carving, I'm actually selling wholesale. I work, you know, out behind a friend's house in Argyle, and if you've ever been to the Wood Carte, my wood carvings are out front. So that's what I'm proposing to start a retail business again. MR. TRAVER-Okay. MR. TRACY-You know carving it and selling. I display my work and carve it right in front of the people. It's just, I'm totally surrounded by the location. This is the most ideal location for a carver. MR. FERONE-Well you'll have exposure there. That's for sure. MR. TRACY-Very much so. I've worked in that location with the other carver. MR. TRAVER-The one that we reviewed a few years ago. MR. TRACY-Right, back in 2007 1 worked with him for a season. MR. TRAVER-Okay. And that uses electric saws. Correct? MR. TRACY-No. They're gas chainsaws. MR. TRAVER-They are gas. MR. TRACY-You can't carve with an electric chainsaw. MR. TRAVER-When you were there before doing this, I know you were working for someone, but did you ever have any issues with noise from people being concerned about noise? MR. TRACY-I've never had any complaints because the traffic going by, 18 wheelers going by. I've never had an issue. I have before, not at that site, but at different locations like if there's a neighbor, you know, with their house, but there's no houses nearby. MR. TRAVER-Yes, and these are not huge chainsaws. MR. MAGOWAN-12 cc's. MR. TRAVER-1 was going to say, I almost think I remember years ago who came to the meeting and went outside and ran them. MR. TRACY-So the decibel is around 100. That's not too intense, and it's not like it'll be running eight hours a day either. It may run four hours a day, because there's other work that has to be done besides the actual carving. I couldn't run a chainsaw for eight hours. I couldn't. gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� MR. MAGOWAN-You also use grinders in that, too. MR. TRACY-1 use grinders and drills and an air compressor, a very small air compressor. There's a lot of shaving work, there's a lot of grinding. There's a lot of finishing work. A lot of times there'll be finishing work like some have to be burned, treated. MR. TRAVER-What kind of wood do you primarily use? MR. TRACY-White pine, always white pine, just because it's cheap and it's easy to find. There's plenty of it and it's soft. MR. SHAFER-Will you be doing this 12 months a year? MR. TRACY-No, sir, just seasonal. Probably as soon as the snowbank's gone until probably the week before Christmas. I think it's fun to have people watch you and come up to you and ask you about your artwork. It's a lot more enjoyable than when you're out in the woods. MR. FORD-Sure. MR. FERONE-So once you get this approval you'll get move right in there and start? MR. TRACY-1 was probably going to start the Fourth of July weekend. I'm at another location and I need to clean that up before I leave. I don't really have an inventory right now. I don't want to go up there half witted. I want to be ready to go. So probably Fourth of July weekend, Thursday or Friday before that weekend to get set up. MR. TRAVER-Okay, are there any environmental concerns that people would have that would impact our SEQR resolution? MR. DEEB-No. MR. TRAVER-I'm not hearing any. I guess we can go ahead and move on the SEQR resolution first. MS. GAG LIARDI-Excuse me, Mr. Chairman. The public hearing? MR. TRAVER-You're right. I'm sorry, even though there's no public. We do have a public hearing on this application. I don't see anyone in the audience. Are there any written comments? PUBLIC HEARING OPENED MRS. MOORE-There were no written comments. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then we will close the public hearing. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED MR. TRAVER-Thank you, Maria, for that. I thought I was doing good. MR. DEEB-You are doing good, Steve. MR. TRAVER-All right. So we're at SEAR. MR. FERONE-SEAR, yes. RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC SP # 42-2017 LARRY TRACY, JR. The applicant proposes to use a 372 +/- sq. ft. area to operate an exterior operation wood carving business. Project includes a 7'x12' utility trailer on site and display pieces. No changes to the site, landscaping, lighting, stormwater or signage. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, new commercial use shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act; Q gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'llllu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations of the Town of Queensbury; No Federal or other agencies are involved; Part 1 of the Short EAF has been completed by the applicant; Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of Queensbury Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse impacts on the environment, and, therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be prepared. Accordingly, this negative declaration is issued. MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SITE PLAN 42-2017 LARRY TRACY JR. d/b/a ADIRONDACK CHAINSAW CARVINGS. Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption. As per the resolution prepared by staff. 1. Part II of the Short EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board. 2. Part III of the Short EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify potentially moderate to large impacts. Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Ford, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-And next we have the Site Plan. RESOLUTION APPROVING SP #42-2017 LARRY TRACY, JR. The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes to use a 372 +/- sq. ft. area to operate an exterior operation wood carving business. Project includes a 7'x12' utility trailer on site and display pieces. No changes to the site, landscaping, lighting, stormwater or signage. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, new commercial use shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code; As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation; The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 06/20/2017 and continued the public hearing to 06/20/2017, when it was closed, The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 06/20/2017; The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval, MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 42-2017 LARRY TRACY JR. d/b/a ADIRONDACK CHAINSAW CARVINGS, Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption. Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions: gp,,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � :,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'IIIIu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� 1) Waivers requestrg anted: Site lighting, signage, stormwater, topography, landscaping, traffic, commercial alterations, construction details, floor plans, soil logs, construction demolition disposal and snow removal. 2) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution Motion seconded by David Deeb. Duly adopted this 20th day of June, 2017 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Ford, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-You are all set. MR. TRACY-Thank you very much. MR. DEEB-You're welcome. MR. TRAVER-All right, and I just wanted to mention really almost by way of review before we adjourn that we did hold a brief workshop earlier this evening where I discussed a possible change in our practice, and the workshop was to begin, to acknowledge and begin the process of reviewing our Planning Board Policies and Bylaws, and as a follow up to that, after our discussion earlier tonight, I'm going to contact Laura and put together a proposal that I will present to the full Planning Board in open session sometime in the very near future. So just an informational note on that, and is there any other business to come before the Planning Board? MRS. MOORE-Yes, I have two items for you. As you leave at the end of the table are your Staff Notes for next week. There's pending information from the Zoning Board of Appeals that doesn't appear there. It just says pending. So for those applications that you referred tonight. MR. TRAVER-Right. MRS. MOORE-So please pick one of those up. In addition, I did find a letter from Tom Hutchins and it does say that, for Mr. Rourke, that the existing septic system was sized and installed in a manner that is compliant with the current Town standard for septic systems. You'll receive that letter either via e-mail or as a hard copy. MR. TRAVER-Okay, and just to follow up, does it list the date that the septic was installed? MRS. MOORE-1994. MR. TRAVER-1994? Okay. All right. So we can all digest that while we wait for Site Plan Review. MRS. MOORE-Okay. MR. TRAVER-Anything else? Then we'll entertain a motion to adjourn. MR. FERONE-So moved. MS. WHITE-Second. MOTION TO ADJOURN THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF JUNE 20, 2017, Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption, seconded by Jamie White: Duly adopted this 20th day of May, 2017, by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Ferone, Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ford, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-All right. Then thank everyone and we'll see you next week. On motion meeting was adjourned. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, gp..,;�uV,u`u`Ilil..h.ullVll`r � �:,.IIIIIIIIIIII^'llp.0 'awr II`a;;u ��u`u"'�'IIIIu"u qua`a/"."du/",."qu"�"p'"� Stephen Traver, Chairman