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2001-02-13 SP SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY 13, 2001 7:09 p.m. MTG. #7 TOWN BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT SUPERVISOR DENNIS BROWER COUNCILMAN JAMES MARTIN COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER COUNCILMAN DANIEL STEC COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER TOWN OFFICIALS COMPTROLLER HENRY HESS HIGHWAY SUPT. RICK MISSIT A WATER SUPT. RALPH VANDUSEN SUPERVISOR BROWER-Opened the meeting. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN MARTIN 1.0 RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEDICATION OF MC ECHRON LANE IN PHASE I OF EMERALD GROVE SUBDIVISION RESOLUTION NO. 80. 2001 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. James Martin WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer WHEREAS, Michael Vasiliou has offered a deed to dedicate McEchron Lane located in Phase I of the Emerald Grove Subdivision to the Town of Queensbury, which is more particularly described in the survey prepared by VanDusen & Steves, Land Surveyors, LLC dated January 30,2001 and presented at this meeting, and WHEREAS, Highway Superintendent Richard Missita has recommended acceptance of the road contingent upon Vasiliou providing the Town monetarily that Vasiliou will complete the top coat of the road within the next two years, and WHEREAS, the Water Superintendent has confirmed that installation of water mains and appurtenances has been made in accordance with the Town Water Department's standards with the exception that the top of fire hydrants must be painted white and the final grade around the valve and hydrant at the end of the line must be adjusted, both such items to be completed prior to any approval of Phase II of the Subdivision, and WHEREAS, the form of the deed and title to the road offered for dedication have been reviewed and approved by Town Counsel, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby accepts and approves the deed for dedication of McEchron Lane in Phase I of the Emerald Grove Subdivision, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute, sign and affix the Town seal to any and all documents necessary to complete the transaction, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs that the deed be recorded in the Warren County Clerk's Office, after which time the deed shall be properly filed and maintained in the Queensbury Town Clerk's Office, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby requires an irrevocable letter of credit and or cash escrow in the amount of Twelve Thousand Dollars, ($12,000) within 45 days, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to add the road to the official inventory of Town Highways as follows: Name: McEchron Lane Road Number: 526 Description: Beginning at Peggy Ann Road and continuing in a southerly Direction a distance of 825 feet and .16 hundredths of a mile and ending at a dead end. Feet: 825' and .16 of a mile Duly adopted this 12th day of February, 2001, by the following vote: AYES Mr. Martin, Mr. Turner, Mr. Stec, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Brower NOES None ABSENT: None Discussion held: Highway Supt. Missita-notified the Town Board that there is only a binder on this road,... Councilman Martin-requested that the resolution reflect that the developer must have an irrevocable letter of credit or cash escrow account to the Town of Queensbury within 45 days.. . Highway Supt. noted 12,000 to cover the costs. . . Board agreed to have the resolution reflect this proposal. Board agreed that on future road dedications of this type that they include this proposed level of security. . . RESOLUTION ABOLISHING DEPUTY COURT CLERK II POSITION AND APPOINTING KERRIE HATIN AS DEPUTY COURT CLERK I RESOLUTION NO.: 81. 2001 INTRODUCED BY : Mr. Daniel Stec WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Justices have requested that the Town Board abolish the existing position of Deputy Court Clerk II in Town Court previously held by Kerrie Hatin and appoint Ms. Hatin to the vacant position of Deputy Court Clerk I, and WHEREAS, the Town Board agrees with this request as Ms. Hatin meets all qualifications and requirements and has already been performing the duties of the Deputy Court Clerk I position, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby abolishes the position of Deputy Court Clerk Ii in Queensbury Town Court, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board further appoints Kerrie Hatin to the Grade 4 position of Deputy Court Clerk I in Queensbury Town Court effective February 13th, 2001 at the annual salary of $25,823, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Justices, Town Comptroller and/or Town Supervisor's Office to complete any forms and take any action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution. Duly adopted this 12th day of February, 2001 by the following vote: AYES Mr. Turner, Mr. Stec, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Martin, Mr. Brower NOES None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION CALLING FOR THE QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH RESOLUTION NO. 083.2001 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. James Martin WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION\ SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby moves into the Queensbury Board of Health. Duly adopted this 12th day of February, 2001 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Martin, Mr. Turner, Mr. Stec, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Brower NOES: None ABSENT: None QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTIC VARIANCE APPLICATION OF MICHAEL AND HOLLY DANSBURY RESOLUTION NO.: 5.2001 BOH INTRODUCED BY: Mr. James Martin WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board serves as the Town's Local Board of Health and is authorized by Town Code Chapter 136 to issues variances from the Town's On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance, and WHEREAS, Michael and Holly Dansbury have applied to the Local Board of Health for a variance from Chapter 136 to allow their wastewater absorption system to be located eighty feet (80') from their well and seventy-seven feet (77') from their neighbor's well in lieu of the required one-hundred feet (100') setback(s), and one/halffeet (1/2') from the property line in lieu of the required ten feet (10') setback, on property located at 9 Hemlock Road, Queensbury, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health for the Town of Queensbury will hold a public hearing on February 26th, 2001 at 7:00 p.m. at the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury, to consider Michael and Holly Dansbury's septic variance application concerning their property situated at 9 Hemlock Road, Queensbury (Tax Map No.: Section 43, Block 2, Lot 19) and at that time all interested persons will be heard, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health authorizes and directs the Queensbury Town Clerk to publish the Notice of Public Hearing presented at this meeting and send a copy of the Notice to neighbors located within 500 feet of the property as required by law. Duly adopted this 12th day of February, 2001, by the following vote: AYES Mr. Stec, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Brower, Mr. Martin, Mr. Turner NOES None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION ADJOURNING QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH RESOLUTION NO. 6.2001 BOH. INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Queensbury Board of Health Meeting. Duly adopted this 12th day of February, 2001 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Martin, Mr. Turner, Mr. Stec, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Brower NOES: None ABSENT: None SPECIAL TOWN BOARD SESSION RESOLUTION SUPPORTING CHIPS OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE FOR PROJECTS WITHIN WARREN COUNTY RESOLUTION NO.: 83.2001 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Daniel Stec WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. James Martin WHEREAS, Warren County relies heavily on CHIPS Operation and Maintenance Funding as a main source of funding for highway projects within the County, and WHEREAS, in the year 2001 CHIPS Operation and Maintenance Funding will no longer be available for counties within New York State, and WHEREAS, Warren County has numerous miles of highways in the Town of Queensbury and the condition of the highways greatly affects Town residents, and WHEREAS, the Town Board and Highway Superintendent feel that is necessary to advise New York State of the importance of CHIPS funding to Town highway projects, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to send a letter and copies of this Resolution supporting CHIPS funding for County highway programs to Governor George E. Pataki, the New York State Association of Counties, Senator Ronald B. Stafford and Assemblywoman Elizabeth Little. Duly adopted this 12th day of February, 2001 by the following vote: AYES Mr. Brewer, Mr. Brower, Mr. Martin, Mr. Turner, Mr. Stec NOES None ABSENT: None Discussion held: Supervisor Brower-The State budget eliminated the Chips funding that the County has been receiving for years and they have retained the Town Chips funding but we are concerned that it will be difficult to complete all of the projects without Chips funding from the State and the County level, number one. Number two, if we don't oppose the elimination of the Chips funding for maintenance and repair of highways the next thing we will see is the State coming in and trying to take it away from the towns. Weare trying to keep this funding for our infrastructure improvement of roads. RESOLUTION APPOINTING MARILYN RYBA AS SENIOR PLANNER ON PERMANENT BASIS RESOLUTION NO. 84.2001 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. James Martin WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 251,2000 the Queensbury Town Board appointed Marilyn Ryba as Senior Planner on a permanent basis subject to Ms. Ryba's successful completion of the Civil Service exam for the position, and WHEREAS, the Warren County Department of Personnel and Civil Service has advised the Town Board that Ms. Ryba successfully passed the Warren County Civil Service exam, and WHEREAS, the Executive Director of Community Development has therefore recommended that the Town Board appoint Ms. Ryba on a permanent basis, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby appoints Marilyn Ryba to the position of Senior Planner on a permanent basis, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor and/or Town Comptroller's Office to complete any forms necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution. Duly adopted this 12th day of February, 2001 by the following vote: AYES Mr. Brower, Mr. Martin, Mr. Turner, Mr. Stec, Mr. Brewer NOES None ABSENT: None Discussion held: Supervisor Brower-I think Marilyn has done a fine job for the Town. 2.0DISCUSSIONS COUNCILMAN MARTIN-Would like to add to the regular agendas a format that would be issued driven, it would have topics that would force us as a board to consider them, such as Economic Development, Infrastructure or Community needs.. . noted that they would not be reported on every meeting but would be in front of the board members so as not to be forgotten. Requested that Chris Round and Darleen meet and draft a list of potential items to be considered by the Board. 2. 1 VEHICLE FOR HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT COUNCILMAN TURNER-Noted that the State Contract on Vehicles will be ending in March need to make a decision on the highway vehicle, needs to replace a vehicle with 100,000 miles on it. SUPERVISOR BROWER-Two Issues: Lease or Purchase Also questioned the type of vehicle, why that level of vehicle.. HIGHWAY SUPT. MISSIT A-Noted the other vehicle is a Jeep and there is no room in it. Noted Warren County is leasing the Expedition... SUPERVISOR BROWER-Noted he felt it was cheaper to purchase rather than lease. Discussion suspended to later in the meeting... 2.2UPDATE ON COMBS JUNK YARD COUNCILMAN BREWER-Showed pictures of the Junk Yard to the Board, nothing has been done on the site. DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES DAVE HATIN-Something has happen on the site but it has not been done all the way. COUNCILMAN BREWER-We have given ample time he said he would do it and he has not done it. COUNCILMAN MARTIN-We need to initiate the process of revoking the Junk Yard Permit. COUNCILMAN BREWER-He does not have a permit. DIRECTOR HATIN-I will have to consult with Town Counsel this has not been done before. His license has expired and it has not been renewed. Board agreed to have Director Hatin contact the Town Counsel to review what the town's next move will be. 2. 3 FLEET MANAGEMENT PLAN COUNCILMAN BREWER-Re: Administration Fees.. . now that we do not have per sa a person just doing this is it necessary to get fees from one department to the other? COMPTROLLER HESS-No we do not need the same fee that we had in the past. COUNCILMAN BREWER-What are the big benefits that we have with this thing? If we do not have a Fleet Manager position what is the benefits vs what we used to do? COMPTROLLER HESS-I think one of the benefits, when we started this process it was apparent over the first couple of years that vehicles were a pawn in the budget process, we needed a way to stabilize the fleet and keep it reasonably current without having major impacts on the budget or negative impacts on the budget. We also provided for ways for maximizing to centralize the trade in values hopefully we would like to as some point keep better records of maintenance, cost on the vehicles where they get to the point in their life cycle where they have maintenance and we also save money. We can buy vehicles on time through fleet management and save a percent a year. COUNCILMAN BREWER-Questioned why the vehicles could not be bought on time without fleet management? COMPTROLLER HESS-You could, except we do this through an enterprise fund. COUNCILMAN BREWER-If we are not going to charge five percent to another department to pay for the administration fees? COMPTROLLER HESS-I did not say that we were not going to anything, I said we were going to look and see what the right fee is to charge. SUPERVISOR BROWER-Key benefit of the fleet program from my perspective is that is provides the Town in a regular interval of replacing vehicles on a schedule that is not subject generally to political limbs. Each department generally would expect to see their vehicles replaced every five years. Noted in the past it was typical for Town Boards to cut out vehicles from departments... COUNCILMAN BREWER-We could cut them out if they were in fleet management. SUPERVISOR BROWER-We could but generally speaking it does not come under our purview it comes under the purview of the fleet policy so it is almost an automatic replenishment of vehicles on a regular schedule. Noted that Henry is responsible for the fleet at the moment, he has been maintaining the fleet in a regular interval basis. Commented that Ralph was concerned about the admin charges because of his special districts, he felt that was not appropriate, and yet Ralph would be the first to admit that prior to the fleet policy he had a lot of junk in his department. Other departments could run into the same thing this fleet program gives us the opportunity to buy vehicles at an interest rate less than we are earning... COMPTROLLER HESS-This was a carefully conceived policy that took quite a while for five board members to digest and decide this was the right thing to do and I truly do not feel comfortable defending it on just why, why, why. COUNCILMAN BREWER-Noted after taking office in January the fleet manager was gone within four weeks, so apparently it wasn't that substantial of a project in my mind. What I am saying is if we sit here as a board and we want to keep this thing tell me why we should keep it. If we can save money financing I do not understand that. . .I do not see any benefit for charging a department one thing when we have a comptrollers office that is totally their job to work with funds, day after day to charge another department I think that is wrong. It is one town, one comptroller several departments and I do not think we should be charging each other as a profit. Where does that money go? COMPTROLLER HESS-At the present time we do not need the five percent, I said that before we charge five percent because we were going to do several things, we were going subsidize somebody that gets a stipend for the job, now you have somebody who doesn't get a stipend for the job but it was also intended to capitalize we minimize the capital into this program we put 208,000 into this program for a fleet that has a value of about a million five. The value of that fleet is going to go up every year even if you do not add vehicles it is going to go up every year because of replacement costs for the vehicles is going to go up we under capitalized it so the five percent to the extent that we do not expend all that five percent will increase the capital fund to self sustain it. We do not borrow one hundred percent of our vehicles. HIGHWAY SUPT. MISSIT A-So, other departments are paying possibly for somebody else vehicles. SUPERVISOR BROWER-You can look at it that way but when you are ready to replace your vehicle in five years, there is enough money to buy a new one at the higher price. COMPTROLLER HESS-It is coming from the Town funds, when you say it comes from other departments I am not sure, if you are talking about, does is come from a Special District there is a case to be made for accountability to the district and I do not have a question about that because we are arguing about philosophy of special district and I know that Ralph has a concern about that, this is a well accepted practice special districts are allowed charges for services such as this but when it comes to other departments there is not questions, departments can compensate one another for doing different things. HIGHWAY SUPT. MISSIT A-Commented that the lease that the State Comptroller's Office put together is a viable contract as well and they took a lot of time to put it together. I do not see what the difference is. COUNCILMAN BREWER-Noted he would support the idea of standards for vehicles, turn them over in an appropriate time I just have a hard time charging each department ... COUNCILMAN MARTIN-I think it is taking a straight forward issue and making it complicated. I do not think that this accommodates that vehicle usage varies. We used to put ten thousand miles a year on a vehicle and maybe recreation would only put on three thousand, Mr. Hansen just got rid of a truck that was bought in 1982 and the town realized a huge savings over hanging onto a vehicle like that, this makes an assumption it has to as a central system that you basically a three to five year life and we are going to turn it over from an accounting point of view. We pay department managers a good sum of money they are a good experienced group let them manage their own departments, it is up to us as the budget entity to monitor that. COUNCILMAN BREWER-I do not see any great benefit sticking out... COMPTROLLER HESS-I do not care whether you have this or not, this was devised and well thought out and I think it is very beneficial but whether it had been originally adopted or not would have been a very objective decision at the time and objectively the Board decided this was the right thing to do. If you turn it over you are going to do it on a subjective basis that is fine you can do that you are going to do it without the Comptrollers recommendation I recommend that it be adopted I recommend that you keep it. Turn it over subjectively if you wish it is a step backwards and it is your call to make. If you want to take the step backwards you take it and I am not married to the program the decision making process that I am hearing is far inferior to the one that existed when this was adopted. COUNCILMAN MARTIN-I would expect that opinion out of the comptroller that is the kind of view I expect you to have and sometimes these decisions are made from an accounting perspective and sometimes they are not and it is objective and sometimes it is subjective. COUNCILMAN BREWER-My suggestion would be and this is only for me, is we put this aside and we pick and choose from what we want to keep in here such as standardize colors. SUPERVISOR BROWER-I personally think that a fleet program is a beneficial program to the town. I do not think that departments should be allowed to go out and procure vehicles under a lease. COUNCILMAN MARTIN-Requested that Mr. VanDusen opinon on the fleet program. WATER SUPT. VANDUSEN-My first involvement in the budgeting process was that you had a ten year replacement on pickup trucks, you put a request in the budget for x number of vehicles that you felt met the criteria. Some years that was approved and some years it was cut. The fleet program in my opinion the strongest selling point of the fleet program was and still is the mechanism that enables a department head to plan involvement in determining how long you felt that vehicle should last, and putting it on a schedule to replace it at that. Attempting to take the politics or that notion that we have to cut somewhere and this is a good place to cut. I realize now that I probably just created another line that the board won't want to cut but that was a real plus. As a department manager I feel that is an advantage to the operation of the department. There is no question that in previous years we spend money maintaining vehicles because we needed to have a set of wheels that was not practical to do. As a private owner you would have gotten rid of it. Switching to the fleet program is we are in the process of making that conversion now, meaning getting rid of some of these ten or twelve or fourteen year old vehicles and certainly we probably purchased more vehicles under the fleet program than in any other department. What bothers me about the fleet, we have had a few problems procuring them those problems are not a reason to keep the fleet program or get rid of them it is a reason to maybe improve things and hone in better but I would really feel badly if that was used as a reason to get rid of the fleet program. My concern all along has been the administrative fee and questioning what you get out of that. We were already maintaining excellent records as to what our vehicles would cost, costing to maintain, but the interest charges that we were paying were high. From my stand point if I had twenty vehicles on a five year replacement if I just buy four vehicles a year straight out purchase every year I have no interest charges whatsoever and a relatively flat line, I realize inflation is going to drive it up each year. Had a discussion with Dennis and Henry regarding that issue we came to an agreement that it seemed to work for all three of us in that regard. That is why initially you heard me one on one discussion the financial impacts of the fleet program and all of a sudden now you do not hearing me say against that because from a financial end we have worked out an agreement. From what Jim said before about it is an extra set of steps to go get the vehicle there is no question. In my case we take the state contract we will pick and choose the options in the vehicle, put together the package that seems to meet our needs submit that to Henry and then the paper work gets walked through. We need to make sure our communication works well so that we don't that ball doesn't get dropped or we do not miss time frames within that but that is what has been happening. COUNCILMAN MARTIN-Question is he is saying to keep the fleet program? WATER SUPT. VANDUSEN-Obviously if you do away with the fleet program it makes my life easier, as long as this board stays here for the next twenty years and agrees that they are going to replace vehicles when they met that criteria. COUNCILMAN BREWER-I am not saying hard nosed that we should just get rid of it, I am saying that we should fine tune it take the things that benefit us and use them and the things that question us get rid of them. COUNCILMAN MARTIN-I think we have we have a drastically untapped resource in the form of the Department Managers, I think this is an issue we should kick to them have them analyze it with Henry at the table too, Ralph, Chris, Harry, .. .lets gets their take on it. May we could keep the system and improve it. COMPTROLLER HESS-Noted there is a evolutionary improvement on all these things anyway, this is a capital improvement program, it is not unlike the capital improvement program that you are putting in for fix assets, this is a permanent asset you have for the Town...I think trying to guess what it should look like in five years even now is wrong let it evolve. COUNCILMAN MARTIN-Noted we are two years into it, and there are some things that have been learned from it. COMPTROLLER HESS-Questioned what has been learned that we do not like? COUNCILMAN MARTIN-Noted he would like to hear from the Department Heads. Spoke against the five percent fee, it is like a made up cost, why don't we have the raw cost of the vehicle whether leased or purchased or whatever be the only cost to the central fleet. COMPTROLLER HESS-Is that the modification you think it needs, take out the admin. Fee? COUNCILMAN MARTIN-Yes, it is just like we are charging ourselves. COMPTROLLER HESS-With that this plan would survive? Questioned if there were any other objections to this plan? COUNCILMAN MARTIN-Noted we are two years into the program, maybe it is time for a status check. HIGHWAY SUPT. MISSITA-Noted a program is only good for two years, if you get a Board that doesn't agree with the program. COMPTROLLER HESS-That is why a policy is defined as what it is, a policy really should endure, policies are well thought out and conceived and should endure and become administrative tools. . . just going back and tearing apart a policy that was adopted and is working I am not sure I understand the concept of looking back to destroy what was created before rather than looking ahead to build on what we need to do in the future, there are much more important things to spend this much time on than this. COUNCILMAN BREWER-Noted he had received complaints from employees about the central fleet. Things like the Fleet Manager will determine what cars and what needs are in the car, who would know more than the Department Head. COMPTROLLER HESS-Noted that it says that there will be standards set for how the car will be equipped, nobody has ever put in a request for a vehicle that has a need for something that doesn't get it. COUNCILMAN BREWER-special requirements, the central fleet will generally purchase vehicle all . . factory equipment and some major standard after market components, for example, tools, tool bodies for service trucks, snow plows etc. purchased when the truck is new. The Department will absorb the cost of installing the cost of installing communications equipment other after market equipment, subject to the approval of the fleet manager. That is what that says, if Ralph says I need a plow on that truck and I say it needs an eight foot plow and the fleet manager says I think he needs a six foot plow that is what you are getting and that is what is happening and I think that is what is wrong. COMPTROLLER HESS-Is that happening, .. .you said that is what happen. COUNCILMAN BREWER-I said that is what could happen. COMPTROLLER HESS-Nobody has asked for it or been declined or received my approval, I put through purchase orders the way they come through that is what the policy says. COUNCILMAN BREWER-We have also missed purchase dates too. COMPTROLLER HESS-Detailed to the board why dates were missed. COUNCILMAN MARTIN-I sat down here initially thinking it was time for a whole change to go back to just individual department heads making their purchases but you convinced me that we keep the policy but speaking for me would like to see a Departmental Head review of the policy with comments, questions, on ways to make it better. I think that would be worthwhile exercise. COUNCILMAN BREWER-I agree but I think the whole Town Board should meet with all the Department Heads ... COUNCILMAN TURNER-Noted he would like to see that. COUNCILMAN MARTIN-I think it is a huge advantage not to have this fall into politics, into a centralized and it is made from an objective point of view. I do want the Department Heads to have a say in the needs for their departments because they understand, equipment set up on vehicles and that type of thing. Town Clerk-Queensbury