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2001-11-06 SP QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING SPECIAL MEETING NOVEMBER 6, 2001 6:00 P.M. MEMBERS PRESENT CRAIG MACEWAN, CHAIRMAN LARRY RINGER, VICE CHAIRMAN CATHERINE LABOMBARD, SECRETARY ANTHONY METIVIER ROBERT VOLLARO CHRIS HUNSINER JOHN STROUGH PLANNER: LAURA MOORE TOWN COUNSEL: CATHI RADNER, MILLER, MANNIX, SCHACHNER & HAFNER APPLICANTS / AGENTS PRESENT Jim Miller, Matt Cifone, Wayne Kellogg, Mr. & Mr. Higley, Mr. Michael O’Connor, Warren Tire employees John Payne OLD BUSINESS: Mr. MacEwan: I will call the meeting to order. This is a continuation of SP 46-2001, Gary & Susan Higley. Mr. O’Connor tell us what you’ve come back with. Mr. O’Connor: As I understand it Mr. Cifone has submitted a new set of drawings which is somewhat different that what was submitted before and I’ll turn it over to Matt to present. As I understand this is not necessarily the only alternative that was looked at since the time of your last meeting, there were a number of alternatives that were looked at and this is the one that they thought was feasible and would work. Mr. Cifone: Also we did, we went down Quaker Road and did a survey on every roof style on Quaker Road, flat roofs and curved roofs and pitched roofs, Bob’s got them all written down in order and by from Dix to Ridge, from Ridge to Bay, from Bay to Aviation, Glen. Mr. O ‘Connor: I think they also went through the Good Year disc and tried to come up with as many different prototypes as they could, they also went down through, was it Colonie you went through or Latham? Clifton Park area and went through a lot of new construction down there trying to come up with some difference in presentation they would make to you. I haven’t seen the survey itself. Mr. Bob Kellogg: The survey I did, I looked Mr. MacEwan: For the record because we have a small tape going we’re asking people to identify themselves for the record. Mr. Bob Kellogg: Vice President of Warren Tire: I just went down to look at Quaker Road and tried to understand what the Board was looking at and looked at 61 buildings starting from Dix Avenue all the way to Route 9, that’s on both sides of the road and I looked at what type of roofs they had there were 22 pitched roofs, 11 mansard type roofs, 28 flat roofs so 36% of them were pitched, 18% were mansard, 46% were flat. In my opinion, I found in a lot of cases the flat ones were the least attractive because you could see air conditioning units, heat units, other things on top of them and I agree with what I was showing before that you didn’t want to see some of that stuff on the 1 roof which our plans before did show that. The pitched roof and the mansard roofs a lot of them looked more attractive, in my opinion, except in the case where you get a pitched roof on a very large building like TOW or some of the larger ones, it just looks like a barn, in the larger buildings the mansard roofs seem to look more appropriate. Mr. O’Connor: What we propose is a mansard roof and I’m not sure what did we determine the color? Mr. Wayne Kellogg: President of Warren Tire. Light tan which this isn’t exactly the color that Duke makes but its light on the bottom with dark on the top and a dark door. I don’t have the, we had the samples. We had the samples the last time of the actual colors, it comes in a very light tan for the bottom and dark brown which would blend in with the Sport’s Page and that whole, the entire corner there with Glen. Mr. O’Connor: What material were you proposing? Mr. Wayne Kellogg: The bottom is a split-faced block and the top is the metal, standard metal roof is kind of dark brown. This (not able to be transcribed) is not appropriate. We couldn’t get the white out of the back of it, we tried a disc, we tried everything basically they give you just the gold and the letters on the building would either be black or gold but it wouldn’t have that white, it wouldn’t stand out like that did, we just couldn’t get the, Matt can explain that, we tried. We had the Times Union try to send us a j-pack and everything else, we couldn’t get it off there. Mr. MacEwan: Anything else? Mr. Cifone: I’m Matt Cifone. We also brought the roof down the sides of the building all the way, the original, it just came across the front, and returned a little ways down each side, this time we went all the way to the back, tried to hide this, with the roof a little more. I don’t know if you recognize that from last time, that’s one other different scenario. Mr. O’Connor: The small drawing, does that show actually where the windows are going to be and the doors? Mr. Cifone: Yes Portion not able to be transcribed. Mr. MacEwan: Okay, Chris we’ll start with you. Mr. Hunsinger: I don’t have any questions, I would certainly like the mansard roof a lot better than the flat roof I guess I just have maybe one quick question. In your survey of the different roof types the shopping center across the street, what did you classify that as, did you count that as one building? Mr. Bob Kellogg: Where O’Tooles’ is? I counted that as one building. I left a note that it was a shopping center. Mr. Hunsinger: Because they have those lighted up awning that makes it kind of look like a mansard, but its really a flat roof I think. Mr. Bob Kellogg: Quaker Plaza, I wrote flat. Mr. Hunsinger: Okay. Mr. Strough: Well, although it’s a step in the right direction architecturally and aesthetically speaking I think there is more to be done. I mean, I had problems with the lay out previously. My preference is that, you know, the north or the front elevation 2 should not be what addresses the public. Now, I was in Wilton a couple of days ago and I noticed a Hoffman Car Wash down there, a service station as well. I found that to be very architecturally pleasing, architecturally dynamic, and I know that some people are going to argue, well, that this is a garage. Well, so is Hoffman’s. But Wilton evidently went the extra length to make Hoffman put in something that was architecturally and aesthetically pleasing. And if you want to recruit to the rest of the architectural styles along Quaker Road, Quaker Road being a main artery of the town, I think architecturally speaking its got clogged arteries and its ready for an aesthetic heart attack. I just think that using your expertise and realigning the buildings so that the corner bays are not addressing Quaker Road would be wanting, it would be more pleasing, architecturally, aesthetically. You know, I know that M/M Higley built that nice complex of shops and it’s a nice concept they’ve got going and what is proposed for us, although better that what was, and the colors I think are much better, I still think … kind of congruent used although, we could live with that if architecturally its more congruent with M/M Higley’s place. I still have a problem with stormwater, stormwater runoff, and the fact that it has the potential for feeding Halfway Brook and it is an automotive service center. Now, I recently came back from New York State presentation on stormwater runoff and we talked about many parts of the state and it may possibly be part of the new regulations that oil and water separators be located at the perimeters especially where there might be stormwater runoff going into detention basins or retention basins to separate the oil from the water, and the other fluids that come from automobiles, brake fluid, transmission fluid, etc. So, I still have problems with this even though its better. Now, I’ll give you a pat on the back for that, but I have problems with the layout, I have problems with the architecture still, colors are good, I can live with that. I have problems with the stormwater as well. That’s my speech. Mr. MacEwan: Larry. Mr. Ringer: I wasn’t here last month but since I’ve been back I’ve worked on this and I did what Bob did today. I drove up and down Quaker Road and found the very same thing you did. And actually I wasn’t here last month so I don’t know exactly what went on but what you’re presenting looks almost like what you’re going to see down on Quaker Road. There are certainly some beautiful buildings like Cool Beans but it actually looked out of place, they did a tremendous job and they should be congratulated but you look to Cool Beans and say wait a minute, what that’s there, it looks more out of place than anything else, but the stormwater, I thought that the sign-off from CT Male. Mr. Strough: The sign-off means that the capacity and what they designed to take care of the capacity does it. Mr. Ringer: I thought that also when I read that stuff … they talked about separators and stuff and said that they weren’t needed in part of it, as I was reading that today, I thought. But I didn’t have anything else other than I tried to bring myself up to date as much as I could without the minutes, the minutes haven’t been typed up yet. But as Bob did I rode up and down the street today. I don’t have anything else. Mr. MacEwan Bob Mr. Vollaro: First thought I had when I looked at this, I said I hope people don’t come in for coffee because it looks almost like a store in a sense. I’m with John in the sense that I thought you could have done a little bit, where you had the office space on the right side that could’ve had a cupola on it or something to set is aside or the first time I looked at it, it looked like a Stewart’s and that is exactly what that map looked like. Mr. Hunsinger: But I thing that one of the directions we them thought, we referenced Stewart’s specifically several times in our discussion. 3 Mrs. LaBombard I thought it was the new store. Mr. Hunsinger That’s not the same thing, I’m didn’t mean to interrupt Mr. Vollaro I’ve always said and I’ll always say that the discussion among Board members is good. I like to see that more than I like that to see each Board member ( not able to be transcribed). I would like to see some interplay between Board members so I don’t mind. But that’s my …. I still think that something could be done with the right side, let me ask this question. Are you going to have any A/C equipment at all, you’re not going to air condition the office. Mr. Wayne Kellogg: It would be a roof top unit. Mr. Vollaro Oh, it will be. Mr. Kellogg: There was a question on the oil separator, all our stores have oil separators, the Town of Queensbury makes you pump them every three months. It’s about $1 per gallon so we take care of that automatically. We do it without anybody supervising us, they don’t come and check us anymore. We just haven’t done the entire company, every store’s is pumped out. Mr. Vollaro Is that what that is on the drawing? Mr. Wayne Kellogg: It comes out where the sewer pipe comes out, goes into, similar to a septic system, the oil comes to the top and the water goes out. We get a little film, you just take a stick and stir it up, there isn’t any oil in there at all, just take the residue off the floor, they used to pump it dry, you couldn’t, its so expensive now they just skim the top, Bob can tell about how many gallons they took the last time, 4 or 5 stores and take it to, they won’t take anything from restaurants, they would just shop it to Syracuse. Some discussion ( not able to be transcribed) Mr Strough: Hoffman Car Wash? Mr. Bob Kellogg: I didn’t go down there. Mr. Strough: You know, this a main street, it’s not a side street, and you want to address the public, you want to draw business, I want the Higley’s to do well, god knows I give them enough money every year, but, you know, you want something that people will talk about, and I want you to do well in your business in Warren Tire, and I also want people to say “Have you seen that Warren Tire place on Quaker right next to Higley’s Sport’s Page, Wow.” I mean that’s the extra, going the extra, a mansard roof, not quite that, but the Hoffman Car Wash is an example of a community that makes its applicants go the extra step to present something pleasing and I think on Quaker Road you have to do that Mr. O’Connor: I think you’ll want to respond to some of those comments and I’m not interrupting on purpose even though (some discussion). Mr. Wayne Kellogg: I’ve got a question, that beverage center next to King Fuel, is that in the Town of Queensbury, the brand new building with a mansard roof … , its right on the main thoroughfare , …. peak on the front, and we looked at all those roof styles. We have a Hoffman’s right next to us in Clifton Park, we have a mansard roof and they have a mansard roof. Mr. MacEwan: John let me finish going around 4 Mrs. LaBombard I like the colors very much I think they’re really nice and I like the windows, they really add a lot to the waiting room in the service area or the part where the people go in, and its an improvement, I’m not a fan of french architecture but I know that one of the issues is the structural, the way that you’ve got to have a roof to be supportive and you have certain regs you have to comply with when you’re construction this type of facility so as far as what kind of roof you can put on, go along with the regs you have to follow , you know that’s where they have to do their homework and I don’t know if you can make something else work better, with the regs and the code, but I just can’t believe that John mentioned the Hoffman place because I saw the same thing, when I had to go to Lowe’s in Wilton the other night and I never would have mentioned it. But you did, I’ll concur on that. The other thing is, I hope with didn’t have a miscommunication where you thought we felt that the new Stewart’s with mansard roof was the one we were excited about, but that wasn’t the case. We tried to get the Stewart’s store at Exit 18 to get away from this style and go with a gable type and things like that but this is something that will work. I’ll vote for it. Mr. Metivier I have no problems with it. I have to agree with Larry on one point, you know, I understand what we’re trying to do and where we’re trying to go with improvements on Quaker Road and I certainly agree with that, but I don’t think we have to make this the Taj Mahal of the service stations. I don’t know, it’s a tough because its serving a purpose and its …. and as far as that goes the color contrast with the Sport’s Page building will be nice. I do like the windows, I mentioned that before that, you know, the simplest things, I mean, when you put those windows in there and they have the …its just going to make it look nice. But I mean I don’t know what else you can do with it, I mean obviously there are a lot of things you can do with it, but I think for the purpose that its serving it would be attractive and also I think it’s going to be set back a little bit, its not right on the road so, you know, the Sport’s Page building is huge and its not going to be the center of, the focal point of Quaker Road, its going to be set back and I don’t necessarily think that we have to go down the whole line, gables and everything in this particular instance and I agree, I think that Cool Beans building although its beautiful does look a little bit funny and I mean if everybody’s going to do that, great, but everybody isn’t going to do it, its impossible I mean everything that’s established there if pretty much there to stay, so you set precedent years ago and to start to setting a precedent now with such little developments going to go on in the future on this road I certainly don’t agree with some of the things on Quaker Road now, I think some of it and like I said before looks trashy but I think this is acceptable. Especially, for what the purpose it’s serving. Something else you’d probably have to look at it, but its not. It’s going to be a service station. And I do have to ask a question about stormwater. Its my understanding don’t you have to have the perimeter of the entire building graded with drains on the inside of the doors, or is that not right? Mr. Wayne Kellogg: (Not able to be transcribed) Mr. Metivier: And that’s where you’re talking about the water separation? Mr. Wayne Kellogg: All the water in the building comes out the sewer pipe goes through an oil separator and then goes on out into the sewer We have the same setup in Queensbury in the Town garage. The Town used to dump the water out the back into a hole we dug it all up when we took over the building. We cleaned out the oil separator and hooked into the sewer. Part of hooking into the sewer is they want that maintained on a quarterly basis, that whatever oil is in that oil separator is pumped out. We were notified by Earth Tech they would not take it so we searched and searched until we found a company in Syracuse that will pump it and take it out. And we do that on our own, there is supposed to be an inspection on that, but the Town just doesn’t do that. We just built a new store in downtown Glens Falls, they didn’t ask us to do it. We put an oil separator in Greenwich in there also. And Bob schedules the maintenance to have them pumped. And all that is, we don’t have a lot of oil on the floor, its just a 5 small residue from maybe doing an oil change or sprays or anything like that, they use a biodegradable cleaner, it goes down the sewer. Mr. Bob Kellogg: In most cases everything would be captured …and I can’t think of how, even a radiator, you know Mr. Wayne Kellogg: We recycle oil, antifreeze, batteries everything we have nine OSHA inspections a year just to keep our standard up to what the Federal and State government, they want. We’re one of 20 companies in NYS that do it, we’re maybe one out of 100 companies in the entire state of NY that have voluntary OSHA inspections, they check all of that. We’re so regulated that nobody else would want to do it. The forest ranger bring in the check to make sure that the placard is in the wall that’s one of their jobs. So we accept waste oil, old batteries, we have to take that whether we sold it to you or not. Mr. O’Connor: We think the applicant has gone out looked up the street and tried to make their project compatible with what else in on the street. They looked at a lot of different alternatives, I looked at some different ones last night …all kind of different things this is the only thing they thought actually was functional. Cathy had a point of the firewall separations and what not as opposed to running a continuous large roof They have this building set back a good distance from the street, not right out on the highway. There are going to have the same type landscaping that they have in the other part of the complex. I think the landscaping at the complex alone sets them apart from some of the other operations that are on Quaker Road. So this is their proposal. They think they’ve gone as far as they can go with this and still have a building that is functional. And they’re proud of it, they’re happy with it. You’ve got a difference of opinion here. You’ve got the operating cooperation, we’ve got 3 or 4 principals that looked at this, looked at other sites and looked at other buildings. You’ve got two property owners, landscape architect, a builder all who think they’ve done a real good job in designing this. Mr. Hunsinger Did you bring with you some of those other alternative designs that you looked at? Mr. Wayne Kellogg: I’ve got a picture of one that was drafted with this kind of roof on it, I shot that down the first time I looked at it, the colors incorrect, but I mean to me it didn’t look good at all and in that area if you put that style roof on it, we’re on Quaker Road and we’re looking at the building, we’re looking at the size gets bigger, (portion not able to be transcribed) Mineke the roof looks fine on there, it’s a small building. The TOW Auto Body that’s getting to be all roof again so that’s why I had Bob do an in depth survey of all the different style roofs. We went to Clifton Park which is a highly developed area, where down there, John did 40-50 roofs down there and he talked to contractors trying to come up with a peak to just have a peak above the office with an artificial front and that kind of (portion not able to be transcribed) has a mansard roof and just in the front area of, he can speak to that Mr. John Payne General Manager Warren Tire. We kind of took what Cathy suggested last meeting, and looked at that and tried to go that approach. I know Matt did several drawings and its just a trussed roof but with the stand of building the bigger it stands the bigger the peak and its really looks all roof and a little building. Its not proportional it doesn’t fit. And with the standard of the building we have is here, just looking, I took a roll of film of different examples of that and the whole thing, it’s a new camera, but …… great example of exactly what we would think, in our opinion, a terrible looking building with that peak over that span because it looks like 90% roof and 10% building and its just looks funny. There is a great example in Clifton Park that looks horrendous and I think if we did, if I was able to show that everybody here would unanimously agree that that’s just not a good looking building. To be able to hide all the equipment up in the roof and still give it some lines and character that mansard roof is most functional for this type of building. It seems to be what is out 6 there in the areas that have the most growth, it’s the route that everybody’s going with. I think they made a good compromise on the colors and tried to address every one of the concerns that were expressed at the last meeting. And I think we did, as Mike said, what we all thought was the best answer to everybody’s concerns that were here. The windows giving some different grills to make it more residential looking, gave it some earth tones in color and changing the roof line with some character in that. Its still being a functional building as far as we’re concerned. We have to be concerned also with the use and the fact that we’re trying to, we don’t want to make it look like a Victorian home. We need our customers driving by to understand that this is a service facility. I mean, after all, that’s what we’re here for. I think we came up with the best compromise possible. Mr. MacEwan: Any other questions of board members? Mr. Hunsinger: I think we talked about the Cool Beans project and I think we talked about it then, you know, that the problem with Quaker Road is there is a lot of crap on Quaker Road. There is a lot of stuff that I think we’ll all admit that if it cam before this Board today we would not approve, the way its built. I don’t think there is any question about that. Living on that end of town and driving past the site at least twice every day, some days 4 or 6 times I’ve tried to picture different options to what would look. Personally I think this is probably the best compromise. I agree with John, it would be nice to turn the buildings but they said they couldn’t do that. Mr. MacEwan : Along those lines of thinking we kind of are going back and forth here comparing what we envision for us that we’re seeing versus what we envision for Quaker Road and the difference between the two portions of town is that we have they have a really defined theme ( portion unable to be transcribed) We’ve already had a couple of applications that we (portion unable to be transcribed) that we’ve approved. I know we have another one coming this whole Cumberland Farms plaza is all changing around and we want to see what they have done (portion unable to be transcribed) What we’re looking at here on the Quaker Road corridor is just a mix, there is not really a mix, there is really not a defined theme to that whole corridor so I agree with that line of thinking that Tony has on this that I don’t think this is going to be that great of an impact. I think what they’ve achieved here is I think what will work well here to what this building is proposed to be set. Mr. Hunsinger And I think our job is if I can speak for myself, is to make sure that whatever goes in now is better than most of the stuff that is already there. I mean, I agree with John, in good planning that’s the trend in planning is to have a proper front toward the public. But you can’t always do it. I guess that’s the bottom line to me. I agree with John, but you can’t always accomplish that on every site. Mr. MacEwan: We left the public hearing open, do you want to comment? PUBLIC HEARING LEFT OPEN Mr. Higley: I’m Gary Higley. Susan and I bought that building that we have right now on a shoestring, it is our life, we have worked very hard at doing a little bit at a time as we’ve had money to improve it and you can see some of the changes we’re making now. It’s taken us 5 or 6 years to get to that point by the time we put new roofs on, heating systems, and all these other things this is two independent local business people that put a plan together where we’ve had to fall within a budget and make it work for both of us. I’m there all the time, Wayne is there all the time. We work hard at our businesses. Yes, we would love put up a Taj Mahal and it would be great. I would love to have somebody come down and say, “Wow look at that”, but it’s just, it wouldn’t work, the numbers just wouldn’t work to have a Warren Tire store there and put up a building to that extent at that expense. What we tried to do here is put up a building that really ties in and fits with the corner. And I can guarantee you that improvements just like improvements on my building have been going onward, 7 improvements to this entire three acre corner lot will be made because it is Susan’s and mine entire future. We’re very proud of the corner. I think our track record there for the last 6 years has shown that, but we’re not a Stewart’s, we’re not a Lowe’s, we’re not, I don’t have millions of dollars sitting behind me, we have to work with what we can work with and this is a project that we’ve spent a lot of money on, we really zeroed in on what the Town wanted, how to put the building on, I can’t tell you how many plot plans we had to put the building on here. and this is what we came up with. We’re pretty proud of this right now and I think we’re proud Queensbury residents and business people and we’re are trying to do the same thing you guys are doing. Public Hearing Closed Mr. MacEwan: Anyone else? Do you want to do a SEQRA? Mrs. LaBombard Is it the Short form? Mr. MacEwan : I think it actually is the long one, I was wrong. Mrs. LaBombard: Short form EAF 1. Does Action exceed any Type I threshold in 6NYCRR 617.46? No 2. Will action receive coordinated review as provided for unlisted actions in 6 NYCRR 617.6 No 3. Could action result in any adverse affects associated with the following: 1. Existing air quality, surface to groundwater quality and quantity, noise levels, exiting traffic patterns, solid waste production and disposal, potential for erosion, drainage, or flooding problems? No 2. Aesthetics, agricultural, archeologically, historic or other natural or cultural resources, or community or neighborhood character? No 3. Vegetation or fauna, fish, shellfish or wildlife species, significant habitats, or threatened or endangered species? No 4. A community’s existing plans or goals as officially adopted, or a change in use or intensity of use of land or other natural resources? No 5. Growth, subsequent development, or related activities likely to be induced by the proposed action? No 6. Long term, short term, cumulative or other effects not identified in C1-C5? No 8 7. Other impacts (including changes in use of either quantity or type of energy? No 8. Will the project have an impact on the environmental characteristics that caused the establishment of a CEA? No 9. Is there, or is there likely to be controversy related to potential adverse environmental impacts? No RESOLUTION WHEN DETERMINATION OF NO SIGNIFICANCE IS MADE RESOLUTION NO. 46-2001, Introduced by Catherine LaBombard who moved for its adoption, seconded by Robert Vollaro: WHEREAS, there is presently before the Planning Board an application for Gary & Susan Higley, SP 46-2001: WHEREAS, this Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED: 1. No Federal agency appears to be involved. 2. The following agencies are involved: NONE 3. The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations of the Town of Queensbury. 4. An Environmental Assessment Form has been completed by the applicant. 5. Having considered and thoroughly analyzed the relevant areas of environmental concern and having considered the criteria for determining whether a project has a significant environmental impact as the same is set forth in Section 617.11 of the Official Compilation of Codes, Rules and Regulations for the State of New York, this Board finds that the action about to be undertaken by this Board will have no significant environmental effect and the Chairman of the Planning Board is hereby authorized to execute and sign and file as may be necessary a statement of non-significance or a negative declaration that may be required by law. th Duly adopted this 6 day of November, 2001, by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Strough, Mr. Ringer, Mr. Vollaro, Mrs. LaBombard, Mr. Metivier, Mr. MacEwan NOES: None 9 Mr. MacEwan: Discussion of the resolution before we have the vote? Someone want to move one? Mr. Ringer: MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN NO. 46-2001 FOR GARY & SUSAN HIGLEY: RESOLUTION APPROVING SITE PLAN NO. 46-2001 – GARY & SUSAN HIGLEY RESOLUTION NO. SP 46-2001 INTRODUCED BY: Larry Ringer WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION: SECONDED BY: Chris Hunsinger WHEREAS, the Town Planning Board is in receipt of Site Plan No. 46-2001, Gary & Susan Higley. Applicant proposes construction of a 6,313+/- sf Warren Tire Building with parking and site work. New uses in HC zones require Planning Board review and approval. Cross Reference: SP 61-98, AV 83-2001. Tax Map No. 105-1-38.2, 38.1. Lot size: 2.91 acres. Section: 179-23 WHEREAS, the application was received 9/01: WHEREAS, the above is supported with the following documentation and inclusive of all newly received information, not included in this listing as of 10/12/01: 11/6 Staff Notes 10/31 Additional information received 10/23 Planning Board resolution – Tabled to 11/6 10/23 Staff notes 10/23 CT Male Associates 10/22 CT Male Associates from Miller Assoc. – response to 10/22 CT Male eng comments 10/22 Staff Notes faxed to J. Miller and M. O’Connor 10/19 CT Male Associates eng. comments 10/18 ZBA from J. McCall – Warren Co. DPW permit to work in County R.O.W. 10/17 ZBA resolution 10/16 Notice of Public Hearing 10/10 Warren Co. Planning - Approved 10/9 LM from M. Shaw 10/3 Meeting notice WHEREAS, public hearing was held on 10/23/01 and 11/6/01 concerning the above project; and WHEREAS, the Planning Board has determined that the proposal complies with the Site Plan requirements of the Code of the Town Queensbury (Zoning); and WHEREAS, the Planning Board has considered the environmental factors found in the Code of the Town of Queensbury (Zoning); and WHEREAS, the requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been considered and the Planning Board has adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration; and/or if application is a modification, the requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been considered; and the proposed modification(s) do not result in any new or significantly different environmental impacts, and, therefore, no further SEQRA review is necessary; and 10 WHEREAS, approval of the application means that the applicant can now apply for a Building Permit unless the lands are Adirondack Park Jurisdictional or other approvals are necessary. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that The application is approved as per the resolution prepared by staff with the following additions to the documentation and subject to the following conditions: Documentation: 1. Letter from Jim Miller dated 10/22/01 2. C.T. Male Associates letters dated 10/19 and 10/23 3. Warren Co. DPW permit dated 10/18/01 Conditions: 1. Roof design to be as shown as on drawing A-1 dated 10/23/01 2. Color: tan architectural block and garage doors will be brown as referenced in the 10/31/2001 memo to Planning Board members from Laura Moore. 3. All conditions are to be noted on the final approved plans submitted for the Zoning Administrator’s signature in a form to read as follows: Plans have been approved under authority of a resolution adopted 11/6/01 by the Planning Board of the Town of Queensbury, New York with the following conditions: 1. Duly adopted this 6th day of November 2001 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Ringer, Mr. Vollaro, Mrs. LaBombard, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. MacEwan NOES: Mr. Strough DISCUSSION HELD WITH VOTE: Mr. Strough: I’m going to say no and I just want everybody to understand that I think a little more could have been done repositioning it, architecturally and a little bit safer stormwater design although I appreciate Mr. Kellogg explaining to me how the oil will be taken care of in the garage. That makes me feel better. But I think we could have done another extra step but I’m only one vote and one opinion. Mr. Vollaro: I’m going to vote yes but I certainly sympathize with John. I think that listening to the arguments of what’s on Quaker Road now I think we could have gone a little extra on this. I think what the town is trying to do is raise the bar for everybody here, in terms of how we think about new projects. While I’m voting yes I so want to vote in favor of John’s opinion. Mrs. LaBombard: I’m going to vote yes, but I would like to put this on the record that I do not thing that Cool Beans stands out like a sore thumb, I think its very aesthetically appealing, and it looks great there and I don’t think that because there not many more 11 developmental sites on Quaker Road that we have to just throw it down the tubes, but as far as this building goes I’ll go with it. Mr. MacEwan: You’re all set folks. Before we book out of here everyone Site visits. MEETING ADJOURNED Respectfullly, Craig MacEwan 12