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2004-03-22 SP MTG14 484 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING MTG. #14 MARCH 22, 2004 RES. 178-181 7:00 p.m. TOWN BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC COUNCILMAN ROGER BOOR COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER COUNCILMAN JOHN STROUGH COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER-ABSENT TOWN OFFICIALS DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CHRIS ROUND DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODED DAVE HATIN SR. PLANNER MARILYN RYBA GUESTS MR. MIKE SHAW-DEPT. OF HEALTH SR. SANITARY ENGINEER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC 1.0 PUBLIC HEARING - Concerning Application For Community Development Block Grant Funds Through New York State Small Cities Program NOTICE SHOWN Supervisor Stec-This is our special workshop meeting but we are in the regular meeting room here for one item and then we will move to the Supervisor’s Conference Room for the remainder of the meeting. The reason why we are starting the meeting here is we had advertised a public hearing for seven o’clock tonight in this room for the application for funds from the New York State Small Cities Program which Marilyn Ryba has been handling for us. So, with no further ado this is the second public hearing, we had one at our regular town board meeting last Monday night. We received little if any public comment. I know Marilyn presented there and Marilyn is here again all Board Members with the exception of Tim Brewer are present as is our Town Clerk and Marilyn if you could just kick us off on our second of the two required public hearings. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Thank you Dan. Just for people in the audience who do not know me, I am the Senior Planner for the Town of Queensbury. I do apologize for having this public hearing with a workshop. Leap year caught us off guard so instead of usually planning ahead by a couple of weeks we needed to plan ahead by four weeks for the one day, that way it works with the Town Board meetings. So, that is one of the reasons why we are here. The more important reason is to go through the requirements. The Governor’s Office for Small Cities requires that we have two public hearings for applying for funds for Community Development Block Grant Funds. The first public hearing we just went though all of the money that is available the types of program activities that can take place. The second public hearing is to relay to the public and have the public provide comment if they so desire on what exactly we would like to do for program activity. What we would like to do is continue our current successful 485 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 housing improvement program which is in Ward 4. We had advertised for surveys, responses in the Post Star, we got quite a good response. We were looking at targeting either South Queensbury or West Glens Falls because census data from the two thousand census showed that those two census tracks had a large number of low, moderate income persons. Low, moderate income is defined as people who have household incomes less than 80% of the median. The median for our area is forty nine thousand nine hundred for a family of four. So, eighty percent of that for a family of four would be almost forty thousand dollars and still be eligible to apply for any funding if it is so awarded. We got a great response from the advertisements as I said, we can only target one area and we would like to select West Glens Falls. We have about forty six households that are eligible from the survey responses that we received. We would like to apply for four hundred thousand dollars which would provide assistance to nineteen households which is the same number that we are working on right now, so certainly the need is out there. I think we could certainly continue, as I had mentioned at a memo a couple of weeks ago for the Town Board there still may be an opportunity for households in South Queensbury to get some assistance. We are applying for a total of three housing improvement programs to others outside the Small Cities Program. But, for the Small Cities we need a more, we can only target one area. We plan on using funds for items such as foundations, roofs, heating, plumbing, electrical and replacement new septic systems, windows, vinyl siding if there is lead paint found for example, insulation. The thing that makes the current application unique is that we will work with the Warren Hamilton Community Action Agency and they have agreed to work with us in the past in terms of referrals, but now what they have said they will do is provide energy audits for each household that we work with which has a value of about three hundred dollars each plus put in funds toward weatherization and that comes out to about four thousand dollars per property, for energy efficiency improvements. We would like to keep the grant maximum at twenty thousand dollars per household. We certainly came close and went over in a few instances, lead base paint contributes towards that. We are hoping with the Community Action Agency contribution that we can certainly meet the full, improve the full nineteen homes that we would like to do. As with the current program there would be a lien placed on the property but it is a declining lien so that it lasts for five years and at the end of five years there would be a zero balance. The reason we do that is so that people do not take advantage of the program where the home improvements would be made and then turn around and resell the property. Something unique that we are working on this time too, in conjunction with other funding that we hope to get is having a revolving loan fund using some program income from another grant application from the past. That revolving loan fund we would allow up to five thousand dollars to be loaned at zero percent interest and the good thing about that is that it would be zero percent it would be repaid upon property transfer upon the demise of the household head. The five thousand dollars would be used for additional costs beyond the twenty thousand dollar maximum. That really helps to separate, that loan aspect helps to separate need from desire to Councilman Boor-Just one thing how much would be in this revolving loan fund? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-We are looking at capitalizing, it would a hundred thousand dollars and I think you did a resolution to that effect for our last grant application, but not all of it would be used for this Councilman Boor-But that is essentially five thousand per Supervisor Stec-Right, up to. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-We do not think that all of it would be used for the Small Cities and not all of it would be used for the previous home grant 486 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 application. We expect maybe half would be used for each at the most, just based on what our experience has been. Councilman Boor-What is the origination of this one hundred thousand, where does this come from? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-That comes from the former economic development grant application that the Town received from the AMG program or grant. Councilman Boor-And the balance of that is the one hundred thousand dollar balance or there is more than that, quite a bit more. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Quite a bit more, this is about a third of what is in the account. Because the Town Board I think did not want to use that funding toward some economic development benefit if possible. We did do an affordable housing strategy that was funded thorough a technical assists grant from the Governors Office for Small Cities so we would like to restate what the top priority of that study was, which is protecting the existing stock of affordable housing through an on going rehab program. It is always nice since they funded it, since we came up with this conclusion to show that this is why we would like to continue our current housing improvement program. Lastly the administrative costs, administrative costs there is a ten percent maximum allowed, we have been below eight point six percent of that, we have certainly been well within the, what is considered reasonable costs for administration. Then if any, if we do get notified of an award that will be sometime late summer, early fall. I think I mentioned last time that there were over usually there are over three hundred applications that go in and fewer than a hundred get funded. It is a competitive proposal so we are trying this three pronged approach this year with applying for three different funding sources and hopefully we will get something. In terms of the national objectives we can do, we have to meet at least one and three of them, there are three, one is that at least over fifty percent of the beneficiaries have income below eighty percent. We expect that every household would need to meet that median income that is how we would work it, because the need is certainly out there. The other thing that, the national objective is using money to fix slums and blighted conditions, we haven’t really seen anything that meets that criteria and then the last one is to address an immediate threat to health or safety and we do not have anything that meets that criteria either at this point. So, that’s the program application in a nut shell, I would be happy to answer any questions. Supervisor Stec-Any questions from the Board before we get into the public hearing? Councilman Strough-Just a couple. Marilyn this is just housing only? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Yes. Councilman Strough-This is not for the micro enterprise or anything else. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-No. Councilman Strough-I think it is a great program, I hope we get our grant and thank you for making this happen. At one time you said it was very competitive and I know at one time we had discussed a matching grant where we would maybe grant fifty percent of the project cost and then if they could not afford it we would give them a loan a …loan from the AMG funds. That was one strategy I think we were thinking of at one time. 487 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Since that time the Deputy Director of the Governor Office for Small Cities came and took a tour of Queensbury. The concern about having two great of a loan is that these funds are for people who essentially can’t afford a loan and that if we ask for too much that it might not work out and so they are taking things more conservatively. Councilman Boor-Well, you are not going to hit the lower end you will hit those that can qualify not at the bottom and you want to bring the bottom up. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Right, and there is a priority that people that are fifty percent below median we would like to address those folks if we get a large waiting list then we would have to prioritize and that would be the priority, is to take the lower income people first. Councilman Strough-This is a better program. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-For the householders certainly. Councilman Strough-And better for the community and …these people fix their house up it raises the whole community. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-It increases property values and you have certainly seen I know in our current target area where people who can’t afford to make improvements to their homes, have and the whole area, the whole neighborhood is looking a lot better. Supervisor Stec-I would agree. I would add to your question I would add to what Marilyn had to say when the Deputy Director was here he did in fact specifically express concern over the loan portion of what we were considering doing. It was only when Marilyn explained to him how we plan to administer that, that actually he really thought that was a very novel idea and frankly I think that it was my impression that, that might make our application more competitive because it is a novel approach to a loan portion of it. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-The deferred loan and it works out, it works out really well, I have run these programs in other areas and I found that especially with elderly people they do not like to take money. If they really need the assistance this is one way where they feel that they are making a contribution to the degree that they can and that’s always a nice situation where they do not feel that they are taking charity that they are actually, they know that they are going to give something back when they pass on. Councilman Strough-When might we know if we got the grant. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-End of summer it takes awhile. Supervisor Stec-Now this is a second separate public hearing so it is not a continuation of the first public hearing. At this point I will open the public hearing for comment from the public regarding the small cities block grant application that we are talking about and again this is the second pubic hearing that we have held. We held one a week ago today if there is anyone interested in the public on either making a comment or asking any questions about this Small Cities Block Program by all means please come to the microphone. Yes, Sir. Good evening. Mr. Mike Wild-Thank you, my name is Mike Wild I am a resident of Queensbury, just one comment about funded programs like this and it is not to detract away from what you are trying to accomplish. It is more along the lines of helping create some level of accountability to the people that may receive the grant. If 488 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 there is a way and I am not sure what that is, is to provide some accountability and maybe it is inappropriate but some type of community service or something along that line, to give back to the community for the grant that they receive. I think that might help the application to the State as well as ensure that the improvements aren’t just taken as a gift and assume that maybe they can just do whatever they want with the house and not care for it like most would if they were investing their own money. So, that is my only comment and thank you very much. Supervisor Stec-Anyone else from the public that would like to comment. Anybody, it was not a lot. Marilyn if you would like to come back and perhaps address that concern. I am sure that there are people out there that ask these sorts of questions, they may not verbalize them but, how does this work. I know that the rules associated with the program are stringent and I am sure that of all of us, you are most familiar with them. Sr. Planning Marilyn Ryba-Well, I think and it depends on the perspective of the community but most people or most communities believe that the tax return because the property value is maintained and therefore the value, the assessed value is maintained or improved and so there is a return there. One of the nice things about working with the community action agency as we develop our relationship, I have worked with other community action agencies where they have then, worked with homeowners and some, it depends on the action agency, but some have programs where they teach homeowners how to do maintenance, how to house clean. So, that there is some, we recognize that there is, everybody wants to see that value maintained and there are other ways of doing it and the gentlemen’s idea of some kind of community service may not be a bad one. I think that the big concern is that we do have to maintain confidentiality, in fact we use vendor numbers and so that’s the only thing is figuring out a way to do something like that with out identifying who the recipient is. Supervisor Stec-In our more recent, the grant that we received a couple of years ago, what in that application was, there any sort of component that addressed the concern that hey, is this just a here you go or is there a, part of the application process and the selection process where, how do we pick who receives this funding? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Well, it has been first come, first serve. What we did, it was a very small target area for we had pre-identified people who responded to surveys actually went in and did the internal and external assessments, work was needed and how much did we think it was going to cost and that is how we came up with our number. So, and that was, and we are doing the same type of thing right now, to getting some of the assessments together because the State wants to see are you ready to go once we do that. So, that is how we did it before. There are different ways, I have worked with communities where there has been a board because there has been so many applicants that it’s a community board that evaluates the selection process. But, those communities also had a different type of loan aspect. It was like a loan board as well and so there was a lot more evaluation, almost like a bank. Evaluation, in terms of what the underwriting standards would be. Supervisor Stec-I know that if he was here tonight, Councilman Brewer certainly is more familiar with this program and the good it has done than any other board member as West Glens Falls is in his Ward. I know he would want me to say that this has been highly successful, it has been implemented, it has gone to the right people and done a lot of good and it hasn’t been money in a hole. It has touched lives, he has had the opportunity to meet with people that have received this. 489 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 Sr. Planner Ryba-One of the things I think I should mention as well is that mobile homes for example, we have had some experience where the mobile homes were in pretty rough shape. We will not put in more than fifty percent of the value of the mobile home so I think there is some accountability there in, make sure that … Supervisor Stec-All right that is good, so there are limits I mean that is a concern that I was hearing is that you know how do we have some sense of ownership on the beneficiary of the program. So, there are limits, it isn’t an all. Sr. Planner Ryba-Right, and we have seen, we do have a situation right now where and it is very tough to do this where the property is in such bad shape that we just cannot address it. Supervisor Stec-I have seen some of the properties we have seen before and after pictures so I know what you are talking about. Councilman Boor-Is the five year lien is that a standard or is that arbitrary? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-That is arbitrary. It’s reasonable, and people in terms of property transfer especially as property values goes up you tend to see shorter time periods where people hold onto their properties as values increase. The neighborhoods that both in South Queensbury and West Glens Falls both of them have several generations in the neighborhood so I do not think, its people, people typically tend to leave those particular areas. Councilman Boor-I agree with you, I guess I am just thinking of the bazaar situation, lets say somebody does after three years they decide they win the lottery or something and they are going to more is it retro, the money that they got…? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-No, it is just whatever the two years is left and the declining balance is what would be paid back. Councilman Boor-So, it is not the full value. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-No. Councilman Boor-It does decrease over the five years in other words. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-There are different ways of structuring it, this is what I presented is one way. I mean, if there was something that the Board wanted to change, now is the time to do it. Councilman Boor-I guess that is my question have you thought that far out, in other words if somebody leaves in three years is it three fifths of the or .. Supervisor Stec-It is pro rated. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-It is pro rated. Councilman Boor-It is pro rated, ok, all right. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-And that is right in the lien agreements that they sign. Supervisor Stec-Any questions from the Board, comments from the Board? 490 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 Councilman Strough-Marilyn do we play a direct role in deciding or evaluating and deciding who gets these or does shelter planning do all that? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Shelter Planning has been but we can, it depends on how many people are interested and we have a number of people that are interested right now the way I have tried to prioritized people is, people who have made more than, who have returned surveys on more than one occasion because we applied last year didn’t get the money the year before, we have been applying ever sense 2000 when the program was first taken over by the State. So, if somebody has returned a survey more than once, if somebody has called before that advertisement went in so that I have kept a list so I know if there is an interest. Once we, once applications are completed and that doesn’t happen until the money comes, is awarded but if we see that their income is fifty percent or below or if they are disabled or elderly those are all ways of prioritizing who gets the assistance. Councilman Strough-Who actually goes and looks at the structure? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Shelter Planning has been and yes they have been. Councilman Strough-Now, does the individual who is asking for the grant to repair their home do they go out and get bids for the job or do we do that for them? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Shelter Planning assists them with, Shelter Planning does the write ups, the specification write ups and then they, we have an approved contractor list and then they select several contractors and the bid is opened in public but they are the ones who are getting the bids. We have the opening here just because it is a requirement that they be opened at a public place. But it is the home owner getting the bids. Supervisor Stec-Any other questions for Marilyn? Councilman Boor-One generic, do you know what the total amount the State has? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Boy, I knew that last week, I think it was to, hang on, I got my note book with me. I do not want to give you a wrong figure. Councilman Boor-It is not critical I am just curious. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Fifty four million comes to mind but I do not think it was… Councilman Boor-Ok, because I see our community or Queensbury getting four hundred thousand and I am wondering ok, I look at this State wide how much money is in this grant program? Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-I think there is fifty four million but it is for everything, economic development, micro enterprise program, housing improvements. Councilman Boor-Thanks. Supervisor Stec-Ted, anything? Councilman Turner-No. Supervisor Stec-Anyone else from the public would like to comment one more time? All right, in that case I can close the public hearing, which I will. Any 491 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 further discussion among town board members. Marilyn I would just like to say thank you for your effort not only in preparing and getting us to this point tonight on this particular application we are talking about but the administration of the other grant that we were successful in receiving. I mentioned it before but it is worth saying again, I know that Tim would definitely tell you that he has witnessed the first hand stories, working with some of the people that we have helped with the help of the State in the first grant that we received, it has been tremendous. Sr. Planner Marilyn Ryba-Thanks it is fifty two million. I was close. Supervisor Stec-You were close, you were real close. Anything else from Board Members? All right, Darleen would you call the vote. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF APPLICATION FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS THROUGH NEW YORK STATE ADMINISTERED SMALL CITIES PROGRAM RESOLUTION NO.: 178. 2004 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough WHEREAS, by Resolution, the Queensbury Town Board scheduled two (2) public hearings concerning the Town’s proposed application for Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) funds through the New York State Administered Small Cities Program, and th WHEREAS, the Town Board duly conducted its public hearings on March 15 nd and March 22, 2004, heard all interested persons, reviewed its housing and community development needs anddeveloped a proposed program and application for the CDBG funds, and WHEREAS, the Town’s Senior Planner has advised the Town Board that the Governor's Office for Small Cities is now accepting applications from eligible communities to compete for the CDBG funds, and , WHEREAS the Town Board wishes to authorize submission of its application for the CDBG funds, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT 492 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs submission of the Town of Queensbury’s application for Community Development Block Grant (CDGB) funds through the New York State Administered Small Cities Program to the Governor's Office for Small Cities, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to sign any necessary documents in connection with the submission, including all applications, certifications and forms and further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor and Community Development Department to take such other and further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution. nd Duly adopted this 22 day of March, 2004, by the following vote: AYES : Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec NOES : None ABSENT : Mr. Brewer RESOLUTION CALLING FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION RESOLUTION NO. 179.2004 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby moves into an Executive Session to interview candidates for Board of Assessment Review, Town Health Officer. Duly adopted this 22 day of March, 2004 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec NOES: None ABSENT: Mr. Brewer (Moved meeting to the Supervisor’s Conference Room) RESOLUTION ADJOURNING EXECUTIVE SESSION RESOLUTION NO. 180.2004 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION 493 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Executives Session and moves back into Regular Session. nd Duly adopted this 22 day of March, 2004 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec NOES: None ABSENT: Mr. Brewer Supervisor Stec-Noted that the Board interviewed candidates for Assessment Review Board but did not conduct interviews for Health Officer. ?? CIVIL ENGINEER POSITION FOR WATER DEPARTMENT Water/WasteWater Supt. Ralph VanDusen-Reviewed the history of the department, noting in the past there was a Superintendent, Deputy and Chief Operator, it is his recommendation now to fill a position with an engineer, not a licensed PE but someone with a four year degree, with a couple of years experience to that. Noted a job description through Civil Service has been completed, we are at the point to advertise for the position, need to have a pay grade for position…requested that it be positioned at a grade A with a salary in the mid forties… This person would report directly to Bruce Ostrander … he would be required to get a 1A license to run the treatment plant. It was the consensus of the Board to go ahead and advertise for the Civil Engineer Position… Councilman Turner-Questioned the need for an engineer? Water/wastewater Supt. Ralph VanDusen-Noted ten years ago he would not have supported a position of engineer, the job has become so complex and so technical that I think it is going to become mandatory. ?? Onsite Wastewater Disposal – New York State Department of Health Mr. Mike Shaw-From the Glens Falls District Office of the New York State Dept. of Health – Senior Sanitary Engineer … working on environmental regulations primarily…Noted remediation systems are not reviewed by Dept. of Health, that is reviewed by the Town…the standards that are in place, you have laws and you have regulations and you have standards. The laws are voted on by the Legislature and they cannot really bend, you have got regulations that are formed by the agency that has the jurisdiction they are a little be more flexible than the laws but the standards are even more flexible. When you deal with remediation you are using the regulations those more flexible regulations as standards. When the application comes to the Town and is asking you for a variance from the standard because it is a remediation, that application should justify itself to you. It should have all the background information be complete, you have to justify why it is acceptable as the particular proposal. The things that I would hold more sacred might be the separation to Lake George in the 494 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 Lake George Basin when there are regulations in place, even Town regulations that are more strict. Separation from somebody well might be a more sacred item. ( gave handout appendix 75A review of the regulations) Discussion held regarding wells and septic system…noted that within next two years there will be new regulations coming that the Department of Health is working on … permitting as of now is not required to drill a well. Mr. Mike Shaw-Discussed variances…it is my understanding because you have a variance section in here still for new construction it does not allow the issuance of a specific waiver… Councilman Boor-Questioned if a holding tank was an alternative for replacement system? Mr. Mike Shaw-Yes it is. When there isn’t a reasonable solution for coming as close to the standard as possible, the last option is a holding tank… Director Round-Existing home three bedrooms, want to add two bedrooms currently existing undersized system… Mr. Mike Shaw-Noted a specific waiver would be sought from the Dept. of Health. Question raised: Person buys a camp on small lot, comes in and requests building permit for raising old building, replacing with new building does not meet set back requirement from side lot line who do they go to for a waiver? Mr. Mike Shaw- Will bring that question back to my office and give you a call…suggested they get an interpretation from the Department of State on what is replacement in kind of a home with a non conforming lot… Director Round-Noted Dave and I will go through the last couple years of variances and identify the construction activities and identify if we have been making the proper referrals. ?? Transient Merchant Special Sales Events Director Round-Discussed problems with temporary sales related issues…peddlers and solicitors regulations; door to door sales, special sales events; that would be local dealership wants to have a sale at Aviation Mall…Mobile Vendors-under transient merchant; hot dog cart Transient Merchants have been a big problem, here for a short period of time they do not have a business in town and they lease space from an existing business in town..Tent Sales are also problematic, how long are the tents up in town, where are they allowed, in parking area or grass area…the transient merchant regs was written some time ago, five hundred dollars a day license, requires a planning board approval, town board approval, it is difficult to get through the process…enforcement is problematic…noted that when a person is caught and charges brought up the fine is less than if he had gotten the license…we lack teeth, we could go to the Warren County Supreme Court and you can get an injunction but it takes several days to get … discussed business licenses in the Town -- discussed exemptions for key weekends...regulate tents… requested that the board think about some ideas to regulate these activities… 495 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING 03-22-2004 MTG. #14 Town Board discussed the use of business licenses…fee $15.00 … to be displayed at each business in Town…more discussion needed…discussed higher fee for business licenses for transient businesses… ?? OUTDOOR FURNACE Councilman Boor-Noted he received a call from Linda Clark that Mr. Brown was burning for two hours his outdoor furnace…black smoke…was DEC called on this? Supervisor Stec-She needs to call DEC in Warrensburg, Mr. Jim Coutan … noted he had notified DEC of the situation…need to build a nuisance case file… Councilman Boor-She should call DEC and take a picture every time he does this...and keep a log… Director of Building and Codes Dave Hatin-Noted he had visited the site twice in the last three weeks unannounced and he is not burning garbage…the stove is not efficient … Councilman Boor-Discussed Site Plan with a revocable special use … if it becomes an issue with a neighbor then the clock is ticking. Supervisor Stec-They need to meet a special standard… ?? North Queensbury Sewer Discussion held: the option of a treatment facility being built behind the North Queensbury Fire Co. in Cleverdale and the effluent being treated and discharged into Halfway Brook was rejected by the Town Board…the next option was a pipe system to connect to the Glens Falls Treatment Plant, conceptually endorsed but not pushing the County to move forward because of hurdles such as the federal variance that would be needed. Hoping that other options can be found… RESOLUTION TO ADJOURN SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING RESOLUTION NO. 181. 2004 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Special Town Board Meeting. nd Duly adopted this 22 day of March, 2004 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec NOES: None ABSENT: Mr. Brewer Respectfully submitted, Miss Darleen M. 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