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1988-12-20 QUEENSBURY TOWN PLANNING BOARD Regular Meeting: December 20, 1988 at 7:30 p.m. Present: Richard Roberts, Chairman Peter Cartier Frank DeSantis Joseph Dybas Hilda Mann, Secretary Kenneth Jablonski Victor Macri Paul Dusek, Counsel Lee York, Senior Planner John Goralski, Planner Quentin Kestner, Town Designated Consultant/Engineer Mary Jane F. Moeller, Stenographer Mr. Roberts called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. The following corrections were made to the minutes from November 15, 1988. Site Plan No. 59-88; Page 5; 5th paragraph: the lot is in violation.. sib .. the dock is in violation .. the lot cannot extend .. sib .. the dock cannot extend The November 15, 1988 minutes stand as amended; the November 22, 1988 minutes stand as written. Chairman Roberts opened the Public Hearing to adopt the Proposed Rules and Regulations under which the Town of Queensbury Planning Board is to operate. Page 4; B. PROCEEDINGS: la. Roll Call: Mr. Roberts suggested that a formal roll call be eliminated. The amended proceeding would be: la. Establish a Quorum. Ie. The amended proceeding would be: Ie. Special matters before the Board. Mr. Macri moved ADOPTION of the Rules and Procedures for the Planning Board for the Town of Queensbury (Exhibit A). Seconded by Mr. Cartier Passed Unanimously NEW BUSINESS SIn PLAN NO. 68-88 Storytown, U.S.A., Inc. 1 d/b/a The Great Escape BAVARIAN PALACE The purpose of the application is to amend the Site Plan approved by the Town Planning Board in September 1988 to provide all parking on one level. Location is on the northerly side of Round Pond Road, approximate- ly 100 feet east from the intersection with Route 9, RC-15. (Tax Map No. 36-7-51, 52) In attendance were Wayne Judge, Esq., Agent for the project, and Bruce Lipinski, his Associate. Mr. Judge reviewed the previously-approved Site Plan, which involved a banquet center fronting on Round Pond Road, with a portion of the parking at road level and additional parking at a level above the road level. There were provisions for four curb cuts onto Round Pond Road; two in the area of the Bavarian Palace and two in the area of the Camping Resort. The amendment for this proposal addresses many of the concerns raised in the public hearings on the initial Site Plan. The primary concerns were as follows. 1. How to transport the pedestrians across the upper parking area down to the Bavarian Palace, especially during inclement weather. The proposal was for a set of steps from the upper level to the lower level. 2. Whether or not the entrances would be made access points into the amuse- ment park itself. 3. Questions were raised as to how to save the bucolic nature of Round Pond Road itself. The applicant feels that the amendment satisfies most of the concerns. The proposal is to take the existing grade (2:1) and move it back approx- imately 80 feet from the present location; eliminate and flatten the black- top road, which is presently visible once a turn is made onto Round Pond Road; the only entrance to the park would be a narrow service road, 10 feet in width, that would go into the basin of the Johnny Appleseed Restau- rant, and only used for storage. Addressing some of the concerns raised during a working session, provision was made for a five-foot berm that would shield Round Pond Road from the parking area; provision was made for additional planting in what was an access area to the camping resort; in addition, there would be two five-foot berms for shielding car lights. In order to comply with the statute, provision was made for a plantar every 15 parking spaces, each plantar would contain three trees. The Beautification Committee has approved the application, with the recommendation that the plantings proposed for the plantars be left out of the plantars and that annuals be put in the plantars, so that the entire area could be plowed in the winter. Warren County Planning Board gave its approval, with conditions. The parking lot must only be used for providing 2 service for the Bavarian Palace. The lighting is to be directed down towards the parking, so there would be no interference to the traffic on Round Pond Road. The applicant is also requesting approval for an addi- tional retaining wall on the east side of the Bavarian Palace for two reasons. 1) The wall already has been substantially constructed and 2) the wall improves the grade. The entrance to the Water Park would be on the other side of the amuse- ment park. The affect of moving the grade back and having only one entrance would allay any fears that the Bavarian Palace site would be an entrance to the park. Mr. Roberts advised that there might be a problem if the plantars were removed from the parking area, even for the winter; Town Regulations call for plantings every 20 parking spaces. A Variance would be required, if the plantars were taken out for snow removal purposes. Relative to this, Mrs. York reviewed Staff comments (Exhibit C). Mr. Judge informed the Board that the Zoning Board of Appeals granted a Variance to have grades in excess of 30%; in addition, the applicant received a permit from the Department of Environmental Conservation for mining. Mrs. York also mentioned that the Ordinance calls for 108 parking spaces; the applicant has provided an additional 51 spaces more than the Ordinance requires, or 150 total. The temporary turnstiles were removed after the Octoberfest and will not be used again. In addition, Section 7.071 of the Town Ordinance requires a safe pedestrian walkway; this issue was not addressed in the plan. Mr. Cartier pointed out that the parking space roadway is a 24 foot wide strip, 480 feet long, that will contain two-way traffic backing out from the parking spaces in both directions. He feels that a walkway should be provided for along the northern border of the parking lot; some of the planting space could be used for the walk- way. This is a safety issue that must be addressed, for the safety of the adults and children who would use the facility. Mr. Sciartelli, Morse Engineering, advised Mr. Cartier that a pedes- trian way was considered along the north side of the parking; however, it cuts the slope back and cuts the road off at the top of the slope. The engineers did leave a five-foot paved area along the top slope and a three-foot area on the bottom where pedestrians could walk; this would be outside the paved area. No signs for the pedestrians were planned. Mr. DeSantis questioned why the present plan calls for 42 more parking spaces (39%) than the Ordinance requires. To make room for a pedestrian walkway, a suggestion was to park 21 cars parallel to the slope on the north, which would leave a ten-foot space in which pedestrians could walk. This method of parking would eliminate approximately 20 cars. Messrs. Judge and Sciartelli were of the opinion that pedestrians would not neces- sarily use the pedestrian walkway, if it was not the shortest way to the Bavarian Palace. 3 Mr. Morse stated that the facility is approved for 500 people, and the applicant would like to have as many parking spaces as possible. There was a suggestion that access to the parking lot could be from one direc- tion, with diagonal parking. Mr. Kestner stated that storm water provi- sions have been made for a paved parking lot, rather than gravel. Mr. Kestner reviewed his letter of 12/16/88 (Exhibit D) commenting that the drainage design is acceptable, the parking plan has been improved and there should be lighting to make the area safe for vehicles and pedes- trians. If there is going to be a pedestrian access, Mr. Kestner sug- gested that the walkway should be raised above the driving area and should be carefully marked and identified. Mr. Kestner recommended approval of the present plan, and noted that it is an improvement over the former plan. He did advise the Board that the area of the parking lot and sug- gested pedestrian walkways existed under the old Ordinance. Mr. Morse reviewed the two options available to improve the parking area: 1) keep the parking plan as it is and push the bank. an additional five feet to the north; or 2) arrange the north and/or south parking areas into diagonal parking. Mr. Judge proposed, with Mr. Wood's consent, mov- ing the bank. on the north back far enough to create a walkway, which would not require an additional Variance or mining permit. In addition, the definable walkway would be separated from the parking lot by wheel stops. The pedestrian walkway would be 48 inches wide, measured from the margin of the existing parking area, and would be continuous from the easterly access to the parking lot to the westerly point of the proposed parking plan. This was agreeable to Mr. Kestner, Town Engineer; he affirmed that the drainage could be handled adequately. Public Hearing: no comment Mr. Judge confirmed to the Board that the parking area would only be used for Bavarian Palace parking. If there is an event at the Bavarian Palace, people can walk through the building to get into the amusement park. If there is no event at the Bavarian Palace, the parking lot will not be used for the purpose of entering the amusement park. No tickets for the park will be sold at this location. The Town Planning Board reviewed PART II - Environmental Assessment Form, Sections A. through D. and there was no negative impact. In addi- tion, the Town Planning Board reviewed the Resolution for Negative Declar- ation (Addendum B). Mr. Cartier moved APPROVAL of Site Plan 68-88, Storytown, U. S .A., Inc., d/b/a The Great Escape, BAVARIAN PALACE, as presented provided that con- struction includes a clearly defined, four-foot (48 inches) pedestrian walkway along the north side of the parking lot and separated from the parking spaces by wheel stops. Seconded by Mr. Dybas. 4 Passed Unanimously SITE PLAN NO. 69-88 Jerry Brown The application is for the construction of a new building to be used for storage of auto parts, Warren Street, Ll-1A. (Tax Map No. 110-1-23) Richard E. McLenithan, Esq., is Agent for the project and stated that the facility is a junkyard/auto salvage yard measuring 13 acres. Mr. Brown proposes to construct 40 ft. x 96 ft. steel building which will be used for storage of parts obtained from the dismantling of vehicles. The building will be connected to one that already exists. Warren County and the Beautification Committee (Exhibit E) subnitted approvals. Mr. McLenithan expressed his opinion that the building adds better features to the property, because it would be providing shelter, as the back of the building would be used as a dropoff station for wrecks/automobiles, which are dropped off periodically, sometimes in the evening. The building pro- vides quicker movement of the vehicles into the junkyard, because the sal- vaged parts can be taken into the building immediately. There will be a fence and greenery added for shelter and privacy of the site. Mr. McLenithan confirmed that new items presented this evening were those suggested by the Beautification Committee. Mrs. York reviewed Staff CODDnents and noted that the greatest impact to the CODDnunity is visual. She noted that there have been previous viola- tions on the site, but that none exist at this time. Mrs. York is of the opinion that the Beautification Committee report satisfactorily discussed the problem. However, Mr. Brown noted the recom- mendation for a fence parallel to Warren Street at the southeast corner, and felt that the fence was mentioned at the meeting, but not officially recoDDnended and that it would not add anything to the property. The appli- cant is not in a position to agree to that suggestion. The applicant did agree to the split rail fence to be placed about 10 feet out from the new addition, with a shrub planting. The applicant agreed that trees will be placed along the existing fence. In order to improve the visual appearance of the Site, it was recom- mended that a more orderly process of parking be instituted. A suggestion was that customer parking be provided along the Warren Street side of the building; employee parking be on the easterly line of the lot, there would be no scattered parking on the site, and the vehicles dropped off for pro- cessing be in the back of the new building. Mr. McLenithan did feel that this parking plan would el1m.1nate some of the concerns of the Beautifi- cation Committee. 5 Mr. Brown advised the Board that to process a car takes approximately 25 minutes to one hour per car. He verified that cars will not be pro- cessed on weekends, and no cars will sit in the lot more than a day. To ensure that there were no violations being committed, Mr. McLenithan reminded the Board that the applicant has to annually renew the permit. Public Hearing: no comment The Town Planning Board reviewed PART II - Environmental Assessment Form, Sections A. through D. with no negative impact. In addition, the Town Planning Board reviewed the Resolution for Negative Declaration (Addendum C). Mr. Cartier moved APPROVAL of Site Plan No. 69-88, Jerry Brown, pro- vided that it encorporates the recommendations of the Queensbury Beautifi- cation Committee, with the exception of the fence parallel to the highway on the southeast corner of the property. The Town Planning Board is re- quiring that the applicant return to the Queensbury Beautification Committee for more specific recommendations regarding the trees to be planted along the fence. The Town Planning Board reviewed the Zoning Ordinance, Section 5.070, A through E (Addendum A), with no negative impact. Seconded by Mrs. Mann. Passed 6 Yes (Jablonski, Dybas, Mann, Roberts, Cartier, DeSantis) 1 No (Macri) SITE PLAN NO. 70-88 Order of Friars Minor Siena College Friary This is for the proposed demolition of an existing 20 ft. x 35 ft. close-sided peaked boathouse; proposed addition to the dock; construction of a 16 ft. x 32 ft. (w/skirt) open-sided boathouse; and a 3 ft. x 16 ft. close-sided storage closet. Also is the proposed reconstruction of a 2 ft. x 55 ft. stone and concrete seawall. (Tax Map no. 11-1-16). The location is Brayton Road, Cleverdale, WR-IA. John Mason is Agent for the applicant and clarified the mean high water and mean low water on the print. The mean high water is 2 feet 5i inches above mean low, which means that the top of the wall is approximately 16 inches above mean high water. Mrs. York stated that it was necessary to have a determination by the Zoning Administrator regarding repair or replacement of the seawall 6 -/ (Exhibit F) . Mr. Hatin' s statement is acceptable to Mrs. York and the applicant. The proposal is less than what currently exists and is in accordance with the Ordinance. Mrs. York read letters of approval from neighbors: William J. Gorman and Grace Gorman, and Julius Bernard. Public Hearing: no < comment Mr. DeSantis MOVED that the Planning Department Staff begin a coordin- ated SEQR Review by notifying other agencies of the request for Lead Agency status. Seconded by Mrs. Mann. Passed Unanimously. Site Plan No. 71-88 The Whole Donut The application is for a fastfood facility; donut and coffee shop with a lunch menu, Quaker Road between King Fuel and Taco Tom's (former Dairy Queen), HC-1A. (Tax Map No. 107-1-55.2, 55.3) Richard Morse, Richard Morse Engineering, is Agent for the project and introduced Bill Corbin, representative for the company. The operation is a conversion of the existing Dairy Queen on Quaker Road, located between Taco Tom's on the east and King Fuel and Convenience Store on the west; all located on the southern side of Quaker Road. The proposal is to convert to a donut shop, similar to Dunkin I Donuts on Route 9, and contain a sitdown restaurant. The Whole Donut is a fran- chise. Mr. Morse stated that the existing Dairy Queen had a sitting capacity of 76. Because of the product line being proposed, the Whole Donut seat- ing capacity will be 26. There is a substantial reduction in the interior space, because of the actual physical facility necessary to produce the donuts. The permeable areas will be brought up to 30%. Some of the current asphalt will be removed, the sign will be relocated, there will be shrubs and plantings on the site and there will be a drive-in window. The roof line, which is currently red, will be painted green. The Dairy Queen canopy with the logo will be removed and a flat, wall sign be erected. The brick facing on the outside will remain. 7 Warren County Planning Board and the Beautification Committee (Exhibit G) have subnitted approvals for this project. Mr. Kestner reviewed his letter of 12/19/88 (Exhibit H) commenting that there is no increase in facility size or increase or change in site run- off; water is to be provided by the Queensbury Water District; the propane tank should be protected by a barrier; and there should be adequate out- side lighting. He recommended that Fire Marshal Bodenweiser be informed of the propane tank problem. Mr. Morse notified that appropriate measures will be taken regarding the propane tank, and he would defer the project to Fire Marshal Bodenweiser. Regarding sewerage, the intention is to convert the present septic system into a grease trap, which is in accordance with the Ordin- ance. Currently there is lighting in the back of the building and the skirt of the building has down-lighting around the canopy; this can be intensified off the building. John Goralski presented Staff comments. There is concern about the traffic circulation. There is no provision for parking of large trucks, which encourages the trucks to park on the shoulder of Quaker Road. There may be an increased problem with the widening of Quaker Road. There are two parking spaces very close to the entrance, and this may cause a con- flict with cars entering. Locations for delivery trucks and employee park- ing should be noted on the plan. The Ordinance requires 13 parking spaces; 16 are provided. Mr. Sciartelli noted that the entrances are two- lane, each 24 feet in width. For calculating parking requirements, there was considerable discussion as to what type of business is to be conducted at this site; ie: restau- rant, drive-in restaurant. Mr. Roberts noted that the drive-in requires one space for each 2500 square feet of gross floor area and one space for each two employees. However, Mr. Morse said the formula used by the appli- cation was 5.5/1000 square feet, which is for a high-volume restaurant. Because the site is pre-existing, permeability is at the currently accept- able threshold. Either the applicant could eliminate some of the perme- able areas to increase the parking, or keep the permeability at the re- quired 30% threshold. Mr. Dusek advised the Board that what has to be decided at this point in time is the correct parking criteria. The applicant has used a commer- cial or shopping center formula, which does not apply. Once the criteria is set and, if the minimum criteria is not met, the applicant would have to seek a Variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals. Mr. Goralski noted that, if the drive-in restaurant criteria were to be used, the building would require 100 spaces. Mr. Corbin advised that the Whole Donut facil- ities typically have 12 to 15, sometimes 20 parking spaces; approximately 9% of the business is drive-thru. There is a menu order point and a pick- up point. 8 - Mter further discussion, Mr. Dusek suggested that the Zoning Adminis- trator make the determination as to whether the facility is a restaurant or drive-thru, after which the applicant would go to the Zoning Board of Appeals, because the Planning Board does not have the jurisdiction to waive the Ordinance. Reference was made to the Zoning Ordinance, Section 7.072 Off-Street Parking Schedule, m) Drive-In Restaurant, Page 87. Members of the Board questioned if "One (1) space for each twenty-five (25) square feet of gross floor area "should be "One (1) space for each two hundred fifty (250) square feet ....." Mr. Kestner noted that the old Ordinance also stated 25 square feet. Mrs. York agreed to look into the matter. If the above-mentioned formula were to be used, the requirement would be 18 spaces; the applicant can provide 16 spaces. Mr. DeSantis moved to TABLE Site Plan No. 71-88, The Whole Donut, Inc., for Interpretation by the Zoning Board of Appeals of parking requirements. This action was taken in Agreement with the Applicant and Agent. Seconded by Mr. Macri. Passed Unantmously SITE PLAN NO. 72-88 Mohican Motel George and Marilyn Stark The application is motel building, Route area is 42,000 sq. ft. for the construction of a new, two-story, 16 room 9, HC-1A. Total lot acreage is 3.18; total site (Tax Map No. 34-1-3). Richard Morse, Richard Morse Engineering, represented the project. The addition would be a stand-alone building to be constructed on the western side of the lot. Proposed parking is in the front of the building; storm water retention is on the eastern side of the parking, diverting the flow from both sides of the unit; septic is arranged in the back of the pro- ject. The facility will need to obtain permitting from the Department of Health on water and sewage. Mr. Kestner reviewed his comments regarding the Drainage Computations (Exhibit H) subnitted by Morse Engineering, and said that calculations for the proposed detention ponds and infiltration wells and piping are sized in accordance with septic practice. The proposed waste water disposal system is comprised of four separate systems located west of the proposed addition; calculations indicate the system was sized in accordance with standard practice. The facility water supply is proposed to be furnished by two wells; Well #2 with an indicated capacity of 50 gallons/minute is 9 ~ located within 150 minimum separation distance required between seepage pits and wells. Because of the indicated soils and percolation rates, a distance of 200 feet or more is recommended. Unless the applicant re- ceives permission from the New York State Department, Kr. Kestner would not approve the use of Well 12. Well 11 is located outside the 200-foot radius from any proposed seep- age pits, but assumed within the 200-foot radius of existing seepage pits. He suggests minimum chlorination of the supply, but final approval of the supply rests with the New York State Department. He recommends that the application be approved, that the Health Department be notified of his concerns for the water supply. In summary, Kr. Kestner recommends that Well 12, which is indicated as one of the two supply sources, not be used but the New York State Health Department must make that determination; this well is definitely a problem with the Zoning Ordinance. Well 12 is adequate for the proposed addition in terms of gallons/minute. Well 11 is outside the 200 foot radius of the proposed facilities, but the disposal systems may be located within the 200 foot radius, which is on the applicant's property. Kr. Morse noted that Well 11 is pre-existing and permitted by the Department of Health. Kr. Macri indicated that the existing septic systems are not noted on the map presented with the Application, which could be required of the applicant. Kr. DeSantis owns the adjacent property to the north of the subject site, and said there is a well in the back that could be within 200 feet of Well 12. Mack Dean, Morse Engineer employee, reviewed the site with the Board, stating information he had when employed Qy the Town of Queensbury. Kr. DeSantis requested to know the eastern boundary line. Answer from HI'. Dean: The property line is on the right-of-way of Route 9. The perme- ability calculations were based on the property line area to the shoulder of the road. Kr. DeSantis recommended that the Site Plan indicate the New York State Route 9 right-of-way; this would eliminate confusion about the property line. He does not feel that the property line ends at the paved shoulder. 150 feet north of an existing, indicated sign, the drop-in culvert is 25 feet in from the pavement and the right-of-way is west of that point; the State owns the culvert. Kr. Dean stated that the land juts in at that point, and the previous owners of the Mohican property requested a quick claim. Kr. Stark questioned what this conversation had to do with the re- quested approval. He was advised that the property line has to be deter- mined, in order to calculate the percent of permeability; land that is not owned by the applicant cannot be used. Kr. Stark was advised to have surveyor put the property line on the map. Mrs. Stark questioned why the applicants were not previously advised of 10 ~ this. She was informed that basic, required information is stated on the Site Plan Application which is filled in and signed ~ the Applicant(s). Lacking from this Site Plan are such items as property lines, existing septic systems, and adjacent property owner's wells and septic systems. Mr. DeSantis expressed concern about the flow of water and the dry well in the northwestern corner of the property. Mr. Morse confirmed that there is a natural swale which drains the water into a dry well with per- forated pipe and does not flow over the hill from Elevation 614 to Eleva- tion 606; the water will not go around the dry well. The Board affirmed to Mr. Roberts that it does not want to solely rely on the Board of Health to determine the wells, and that it would like to see the septic systems noted on the plan, as well as the property line and verify permeability. If new septic systems are to be put in, adjacent pro- perty wells should be located, because of the drinking water. If the applicant's wells are within 150 feet, then precautionary measures will have to be taken. Public Hearing: no comment. Mr. Goralski advised Mr. Macri that, under the present Ordinance, the parking plan is adequate. Mr. Goralski read a letter from the Independent Living Center, which stated requirements of one handicapped parking space for every 25 parking spaces within 200 feet of the main entrance; an acceptable entranceway is 36 inches wide and the threshold is not to ex- ceed one-half inch. Mr. Goralski said that the handicapped requirements have been met. At this time, Mr. Roberts asked if the applicant would agree to Table the request for more information. Mr. Stark, co-owner with his wife, Marilyn, stated that there is more than enough permeable land in the back, regardless of the location of the eastern line. Unless he receives appro- val at this meeting, the project will have to be withdrawn, because con- struction started any later will not meet the mid-May deadline. He ad- vised Mr. DeSantis that his well is at least 300 feet away from the septic lines. Mr. Stark also stated that a well test is done every day of the year. Mr. Macri emphasized to Mr. Stark and any other applicants coming be- fore the Town Planning Board that the Board will not give an immediate approval on the basis of applicant urgency, and approval will not be granted until all the concerns are addressed. Applications have to be reviewed thoroughly, with the majority being reviewed more than one time. If Mr. Stark decided to Table the application, he requested to know what information would be required other than those mentioned previously. Mr. Cartier advised that he would have to know that Mr. Stark has reviewed 11 the Ordinance and everything is in compliance with all pertinent Ordinan- ces. He advised Mr. Stark that it is not the Planning Board's responsibil- ity to make the decision as to whether or not the applicant is in compli- ance. Again, Mr. Stark was informed that basic requirements are stated in the Site Plan Application. George H. and Marilyn E. Stark, Applicants, withdrew Site Plan No. 72-88, Mohican Motel. SITE PLAN NO. 73-88 John Ellis The application is for the construction of a single family, two-story dwelling at Sunnyside North, WR-lA. (Tax Map No. 49-2-21). Several members of the Planning Board were not able to find the pro- perty, as the directions were not clear. Because of that fact, Mr. Roberts stated he would not feel comfortable reviewing the application. However, Staff recommended proceeding with the review, to see what addi- tional information is needed. Mr. Kestner reviewed his letter of 12/19/88 (Exhibit I) cODDllenting that no details or specifications were available regarding the proposed holding tank off the applicant's property, and no location is mentioned for a pro- posed well. Mr. Kestner recommended that the Application be Tabled pend- ing receipt of the information. Mrs. York presented Staff comments which basically expressed concern about the installation of a holding tank on a public right-of-way. In reviewing the history of the Town right-of-way, Mr. Dusek explained that some years ago the road at Sunnyside North was moved; thereby, leaving a right-of-way that was no longer used by the Town. In his research he did determine that the site was within a subdivision dated 1924. At that time, the road would have been laid out as part of the subdivision. No deed of the dedication of the road has been located. The presumption is that this was a Town road properly in the Town. The question at this time is that, when the land is given up, does it automatically go to the orig- inal owner of the subdivision or back to the adjoining property owner? There is some highway law in effect stating that the land would revert to the adjoining property owner, if the Town Board so desired. Therefore, at this time it is necessary to have a Town Board Resolution for any further action to be accomplished. Mr. Ellis said that a septic system has to be 100 feet from the leach field, but this is a holding tank and no figures are available. He was advised to designate the well location on the map, then draw a circle 12 -- around it for allowable distance, and determine if another system is with- in that area. If another system has been in place first, then a Variance from the requirement would be necessary. Members of the Board feel that a holding tank would be an excellent solution, if the law allows the system to be put in the Town right-of-way. Mr. Macri advised that the applicant be informed of how the holding tank should be interfaced with the existing water system. Public Hearing: Judy Dufour: neighboring property owner. Mrs. Dufour stated that the lots are very small. The existing property was a one-story camp. She feels that a two-story structure would block the view and is going to give a crowded impression. Mr. Ellis stated that the building is no wider or longer than what was there before; it is only taller. The Building Department informed him that a taller building would be within the Ordinance. Plans were made that meet the New York State code specifications. Mr. Ellis' opinion is that the plan does not block any neighbor I s view of the lake, because on the north is a road and on the south is the lake. He further stated that his decks come out to the same distance as those of the neighbors. Mrs. Dufour disagreed, and the Board informed them that they will consider that fact when the members visit the site. Mrs. Dufour stated she would have no problem with a one-story building. Regarding the basement, Mr. Ellis said that portion of the structure will be used for boat storage; there is no room on the lot for storage.. Mr. Culotti: neighbor on the other side. Mr. Culotti feels that a two or three-story structure will overwhelm the entire area; the lot is only 40 feet wide. Mr. Ellis advised Mr. Dybas that the lot is 40 feet wide x 100 feet long, and the house is designed to be 20 feet wide; the house is to be built on an existing foundation with the same dimensions as what was there. The only addition is one story. Mr. Ellis affirmed to Mr. Roberts that, although the presented plan is preferred, he could be satisfied with a one-story structure. Mr. Macri suggested showing the neighbors the plan; Mr. Ellis said he did this; however, there still seemed to be opposi- tion from the neighbors about the house plan, in addition to a boundary dispute. Mrs. Mann moved to TABLE Site Plan No. 73-88, John Ellis, pending the result of Town Counsel's research into the legality of placing a holding tank in what is currently a Town highway right-of-way. In addition, none of the Planning Board members could find the property. 13 Seconded by Mr. Jablonski. Passed Unanimously Chairman Roberts adjourned the meeting at 10:55 p.m. Richard Roberts, Chairman Date 4~ Stenographer If I! Date Please Note: Due to the distorted quality of the tapes, I apologize for any technical errors made in the transcription of these minutes. Kary~ 14 -.../ TOWN OF QUEENSBURY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 5.070 REQUIREMENTS FOR TYPE I AND TYPE II SITE PLAN REVIEW In order to approve any Type I and Type II Site Plan Review use, the Planning Board shall find that: A. The use complied with all other requirements of this Ordinance, including the dimensional regulations of the zOning district in which it is proposed to be located; and B. The use would be in harmony with the general purpose of intent of this Ordinance, specifically taking into account the location, character, and size of the proposed use and the description and purpose of the district in which such use is proposed, the nature and intensity of the activities to be involved in or conducted in connection with the proposed use, and the nature and rate of any increase in the burden on supporting public services and facilities which will follow the approval of the proposed use; and C. The establishment, maintenance or operation of the proposed use would not create public hazards from traffic, traffic congestion, or the parking of automobiles or be otherwise detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of persons residing or working in the neighborhood of such proposed use, or be detrimental or injurious to the property and improvements in the neighborhood or to the general welfare of the Town; and D) The project would not have an undue adverse impact upon the natural, scenic, aesthetic, ecological, wildlife, historic, recreational or open space resources of the Town or the Adirondack Park or upon the ability of the public to provide supporting facilities and services made necessary by the project, taking into account the commercial, industrial, residential, recreational or other benefits that might be derived from the project. In making this determination, the Planning Board shall consider those factors pertinent to the project contained in the development considerations set forth herein and in so doing, the Planning Board shall make a net overall evaluation of the project in relation to the development objectives and general guidelines set forth in Section 6.040 of this Article. E. The Planning Board review of the Site Plan shall include, as appropriate, but not limited to the following general standards: 1. Location arrangement, size, design and general site compatibility of buildings, lighting and signs. 2. Adequacy and arrangement including intersections, traffic controls. of vehicular traffic access and circulation, road widths, pavement surfaces, dividers and continued .... 15 -.../ TOWN OF QUEENSBURY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 5.070 REQUIREMENTS FOR TYPE I AND TYPE II SITE PLAN REVIEW PAGE 2 3. Location, arrangement, appearance and sufficiency of off-street parking and loading. 4. Adequacy and arrangement of pedestrian traffic access and circulation, walkway structures, control of intersections with vehicular traffic and overall pedestrian convenience. 5. Adequacy of storm water drainage facilities. 6. Adequacy of water supply and sewage disposal facilities. 7. Adequacy, type and arrangement of trees, shrubs and other suitable plantings landscaping and screening constituting a visual and/or noise buffer between the applicants and adjoining lands including the maximum retention of existing vegetation and maintenance including replacement . of dead or deceased plants. 8. Adequacy of fire lanes and other emergency zones and the provision of fire hydrants. 9. Adequacy and impact of structures, roadways and landscaping in areas with susceptibility to ponding, flooding and/or erosion. Rev.: 8/16/88 ADDENDUM A 16 -< RESOLUTION wmm DETERMINATION OF NO SIGNIFICANT IS MADE Resolution No. 68-88 December 20 , 1988 Introduced by: Victor Macri Who Moved Its Adoption Seconded by: Frank DeSantis WHEREAS, there is presently before the planning Board an application for: Site Plan No. 68-88, Bavarian Palace, to amend the Approved Site Plan and provide parking on one level, and WHEREAS, this Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to review under the State Environ- mental Quality Review Act, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED: 1. No federal agency appears to be involved. 2. Other agencies are the Department of Environmental Conservation and Warren County Planning Board, 3. The proposed action considered by this Board is unlisted in the Department of Environmental Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations of the Town of Queensbury 4. An Environmental Assessment Form has been completed by the appli- cant. 5. Having considered and thoroughly analyzed the relevant areas of environmental concern and having considered the criteria for determining whether a project has a significant environmental impact as the same is set forth in Section 617.11 of the Official Compilation of Codes, Rules and Regulations for the State of New York, this Board finds that the action about to be undertaken by this Board will have no significant environmental effect and the Chairman of the Planning Board is hereby authorized to execute and sign and file as may be necessary a statement of non-significance or a negative declaration that may be required by law. Duly adopted this 20th day of December vote: , 1988, by the following AYES: 7 NOES 0 ABSENT 0 : ADDENDUM B -' RESOLUTION WHEN DETERMINATION OF NO SIGNIFICANT IS MADE Resolution No. 69-88 December 20 , 1988 Introduced by: Peter Cartier Who Moved Its Adoption Seconded by: Frank DeSantis WHEREAS, there is presently before the planning Board an application for: Site Plan 69-88, Jerry Brown, for the construction of a new building for auto part storage, and WHEREAS, this Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to review under the State Environ- mental Quality Review Act, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED: 1. No federal agency appears to be involved. 2. No other agencies appear to be involved; 3. The proposed action considered by this Board is unlisted in the Department of Environmental Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations of the Town of Queensbury 4. An Environmental Assessment Form has been cOOlpleted by the appli- cant. 5. Having considered and thoroughly analyzed the relevant areas of environmental concern and having considered the criteria for determining whether a project has a significant environmental impact as the same is set forth in Section 617.11 of the Official Compilation of Codes, Rules and Regulations for the State of New York, this Board finds that the action about to be undertaken by this Board will have no significant environmental effect and the Chairman of the Planning Board is hereby authorized to execute and sign and file as may be necessary a statement of non-significance or a negative declaration that may be required by law. Duly adopted this vote: 20th day of December , 1988, by the following AYES 6: NOES 0: ABSENT 0: ABSTAIN 1: ADDENDUM C 18 -- - RESOWTION ro ADOPT PROPOSED RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE PLlWNING BOARD FOR THE TOffN OF QUEENSBURY RESOLUTION NO. Deaember> 20 , 1988 INTRODUCED BY: Viator> Maar>i WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Peter> Car>tier> WHEREAS, the Planning Board for the Town of Queensbury is desirous of adopting Rules and Procedures in respect to procedure before it and with respect to certain subject matters over which it has jurisdiction pursuant to S272 of the Town Law of the State of New York, and WHEREAS, the copy of the proposed Rules and Procedures Manual has been presented at this meeting, and WHEREAS, a public hearing was dul y held by the Planning Board for the Town of Queensbury on the proposed Rules and Procedures Manual presented at this meeting, on December 20, 1988 at 7:30 p. m., in the meeting room of the Queensbury Town Offices, Bay at Haviland Road, Queensbury, Warren County, New York, and the parties in interest and citizens were heard as to whether the proposed new rules and regulations should be adopted by the Planning Board for the Town of Queensbury, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adopts the Rules and Procedures Manual presented at this meeting, subject to the approval of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury. Duly adopted this 19'th day of December, 1988 by the following vote: AYES 7 : NOES 0 : ABSENT 0 : EXHIBIT A CORRECTED COPY TOWN OF QUEENSBURY COMMITTEE FOR COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION Robert L. Eddy, Chairman 17 Owen Avenue Queensbury, N. Y. 12801 -- TOt (X) Warren County Planning Board (X) Queensbury Town Planning Board (X) Queensbury Town Zoning Board of Appeals (X) APplicant Mrs. Arthur J. Seney, Secretary 8 Queensbury Avenue Queensbury, N. Y. 12801 Date. 12/12/88 Re: Site Plan #68-88, Variance #1447, 1448, 1449 Great Escape Round Pondand Lake George Road We have reviewed the request for.(X) Variance, (X) Site Plan Review, ( ) Other - and have the following recommendationst (X) Approval ( ) Disapproval The Committee approved the berm and planting plans along Round Pond Road and believe the parking plans are an improvement over the previous plan. Under this parking plan the Committee did not question the provIsIons of the ordinance for planted dividers, as the Committee has endorsed the idea, even under the previous ordinance, but due to the long narrow parking scheme of this plan, it seemed unreal to require raised planters, especially due to the operation being year round. Therefore, the Committee is recommending that flush dividers be planted with flowers in warm seasons and allow the plows to do their job of snow removal in winter without the impediment of raised dividers. At the time the thought was not presented, but to safeguard damage to the beds in the warm times of the year moveable landscape timbers could be employed. The height of the three new rides was described with the Committee not having serious objections to their visual impact. In addition to the above landscaping, screening and planting provisions, the Committee wishes to go on record that. it does not approvet 1. Non-conforming signs, 2. Plastic or artificial trees, shrubs or flowers. In approving the above (or attaohed plans), the Committee has the expressed or implied agreement of the applicant to replace immediately dead trees, shrubs or plants, and to give proper maintenance to all plantings. All rubbish containers or dumpsters shall be screened, all plantings shall be mulched and trees shall be retained or planted, as agreed. ~y ;;bm~}~: Robert L. Eddy, Ch~n ¡;; X#I/ßI T /J' , _.~ -,- ~ Jown 0/ QueenjbuJ'tj -' ø '<~-- - - r.:>' -NOTE TO FILE" Planning and Zoning Department LEE YORK , Senior Town Planner Application Number: to <6' - g-~ Applicant/Project Nam~~~ ~~ ~ ti \~ ~ ro rn ,,, Q "~-\D Gt ofl\ ~'f\. rì.. Cl G\\-~ 1:: ~~~ ~f~rk \b~ ~ ~n t~~ - -~ ð. --" -f.i:. . ,-\-e ~~'() -~ ~'-\ - -\ ~ . Ir--..·.. ... ~ t'") o ~(/ ~ U'~ .D u-<--\- \ ~ D L51 ~ c\. ~o . ymf{)<::f)rl, ~. ~ \~ 0,,-01)· .. \\\a. D'i'¡"}¡V1I1M£1' (>/l~\:t.~I~C6~AA-~~~ ~::V\~%~~a ±,~{i'~~~ \{~~~'óYtcd2 \,V'~&:QJ. ~&l" \-< tn~ ~ ðY\5 ~(rl.tA\ri ::?ðYlJ j.. LEE YORK Senior Town Planner G'IIh9li ~ SOTLED 1763... HOME OF NATURAL ßfAUTY ... A GOOD Pl.ACE TO LIVE " .- ~Jown 0/ Queenjburt;j ø -- '.~ ~. "NOTE TO FILE" Planning and Zoning Department LEE YORK . Senior Town Planner Application Number: lR ~ -S( g- Applicant/ProjectName: ~~""~~ \)~'ft - ~l,)~·anù ~t')D ð~ (Vm\b v'\S q,\ e,'P&t~ S. (\.\~ O"r\. ~ (,ða.ol J -=I ~ I.l !..-Y'"()Sg, ~ 6.C.Le s.s I L) ~ 1 ð..Mr~ \ ~ t:rf\... ~ "';~\\x- 'v-,1ÀfI\.d- ~'d.a") \\.rs. 'vx-ì(\~S -\h~ ~ Q Nùffi\i)DÁ f7\ ~~\'''~ .~~()-Ö 0.1-- ~ ~CVYÜ ~ \61).. \~. ~ i')ClA.cÌ-. "'('.0 \1 ad 0 ~s.()'{'a()c£<J ~(l t- ~ Úl'1 Á)C.ú.f âtvù ~Cl & LD l \ \ Y\J D-\:- þ.L ()_'^ º'I'\-rtu(\C£.- W~ ~ ~o ~.ecrl- -e-,q~ . l"º-- CJ!. 'fë \( a V\ ~ \ì1~.t) YI.? o± oÅ cL ('-€,Ç. c... oe rt ~ tJ¡u~f>., ~ ~ ~1~'('€ U9~.eÅ ~c.Á.\( w'vu'c1... ol ~s: ~ ~€. 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"NOTE TO FILE" Planning and Zoning Department LEE YORK , Senior Town Planner Application Number: ¿, q;- - ~ ApplicantfProject Name: ~ or ~ ~LdV\ l) ~ 'fit - "ïða)..!ð!,A.''Il '^- \~ ~OÙ\\~{ú+"cM èn'fYh1n)Ì:'\-ee Y'(?Cl)¥Y\V(V) ~.o\ ~~0~~~ \~~\~\(\~~:\~~i, ~~%: 0.. Vì"ð n\\ 0... \,., \ p ~ D C û:!:: . S.o t" \1' O'fì r¡ D 'ì I ,-r-\\ ~\ ,2. b r c\ ^ ~ tÁ.ÎÝl/è f) 3 -\;- (J.:Qö '. --- \ c. AII<Y parl(iJlR lot or parking area that will contain more than onc hundl'cd (Ion) car's ~_h_~JL ne f'ff(>ct1vely divided by planted divider strips ,)anted with trees fixed in place so as to effectively divldp each parking area of one hundred (100) cars from another driveway and parking area for the purpose of insuring safety of vehicles moving with- n the en t.I re parki ng f\l'ea and to con trol speed. All parking areas shall have a planted buffer area of at least five (5) fe(~t deep sUrI'ounding the parking lot or area. TlII'I'C shall he a planted traffic island at both ends of each isle of pal·king. Tr'ce plant1nR in and around the parking lot 01' area shall be required as follows: I. Within the buffer area one (1) tree shall be required for every tcn (10) spaces in the parking lot within. "f2. Planted divider stl'ips one (1) tree shal} be required fOI' every twenty (20) spaces in the parking lot. ¥:L Each traffic island shall include at least one tree. ¡, 4. Additional plantings. landscaping and screenin,g. including shrubs and evergreen trees may be required by the Planning Board to screen the parking lot or area from adjacent properties or the public right-of- wa.y. ~·;..~"::7 ':::~-=-5:·.::'j.;;;¡;:-,¡;,;;~~.;:.,:;,;,;.;.;;",,'3C:J BAY AT HAVILAND ROAD QLJEENSBURY, NEW YORK, 12801 TELEPHONE: (518) 792-5832 SETTLED 1763. ' . HOME OF NATURAL BEAUTY. . . A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE ( ....... --~ - Jown 0/ QueenjbuPfj --'" @3 .~« ~. DNOTE TO FILED Planning and Zoning Department LEE YORK , Senior Town Planner Application Number: {p ~ - <jš~ Applicant/Project Name: S-tvv-:j \-D WY\ \J S 'fr - ~lX V c:::t.Çc::.vv\....J ß",oO~ ~.. (Ã ~yM C('~ ID'y¡¡ c'¥\ --\0 of'Àll'\lLl \'\ill '1\r,.Q (1.1( \,JI' clM.a t ~ .j~ ~I\.O re, I] "V- <'" cl -T-c'f' e s. ~~ yn_l)SA-- ~.e¿\( 0. Ù~('ÄlY1~ . ~ ~~d~~~yY\O~~ ~ ~~~ ~,ðìl ì. s .. n ~_ --~..Q .. \ ì h " ""- ~ If' ~. Y\'I.û Ù \a.l! . ~""/")\1,'d 0 Ö- 1..0~: &. ~O 1('0-r()SQl~ ~ X\? O\- \ ~\"('~-h . -~Q~~~'f0~o..O ~-:> (\~VÎ (01) ~- ~ ~ \ (\<'^ (;YI ~ \ t?.l ~ \ ~c,. ~r...Q ~-2AcJ.}-Q.Q -\b -\þ '(ñ-1) \ ~ \~ \.S . .",.: . ~.) /', ~ L YORK Senior Town Planner BAY AT HAVILAND ROAD QUEENSBURY, NEW YORK, 12801 TELEPHONE: (518) 792-5832 SETTLED ]763... HOME OF NATURAL BEAUTY... A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE ESTABLISHED IN 1955 KESTNER ENGINEERS, P. C. CONSULTING ENGINEERS JOSEPH A. KESTNER. JR., P.E., L.S. MARK L. KESTNER. P.E. QUENTIN T. KESTNER, P.E. ANTHONY M. KESTNER, B.S. ONE KESTNER LANE TROY, NEW YORK 12180 518-273-7446 FAX: 518-273-7583 JAMES J. SHAUGHNESSY, P.E. JEROME THORNE. S.E.T. December 16, 1988 Ms. Lee York Senior Planner Town of Queensbury Queensbury Town Office Building Bay at Haviland Road Queensbury, NY 12804 RE: Town of Queensbury Site Plan No. 68-88 - Bavarian Palace Parking Lot Dear Ms. York: I have reviewed the subject site plan and would comment as follows: 1. A drainage report and calculations were provided with the application. The resulting proposed percolation facilities have been sized in accordance with accepted practice. 2. The parking space sizes and access road have been designed in accordance with existing standards. 3. The proposed east entrance uses a road cut to Round Pond Road which already exists. This plan does eliminate the need for patrons to traverse the existing hill to the second level spaces presently approved and would, therefore, represent an improvement especially during Winter months. I would also note that because pedestrians parking to the east will have to traverse the long lot, adequate lot lighting is essential for motorist visibility and pedestrian safety. MUNICIPAL ENGII\:EERING WATER, SEWAGE, AND DRAINAGE SYSTEMS SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FEDERAL/STATE GRANT APPLICATIONS PRECISION SURVEYING AND GROUND CONTROL TELEVISION PIPELINE INSPECTION, METERING & SAMPLING CONSTRUCTION MANAGHv'ENT AND QUALITY ASSURANCE ¡;Y/f/~ / T D n ~< ,- .",,-, { ,,< Ms. Lee York Senior Planner -2- December 16, 1988 With the above considered, I would recommend approval. Sincerely, KESTNER ENGINEERS, P. c. ~J.~ zR~ Quentin T. Kestner, P.E. Vice President QTK/cp cc: Planning Board Members TOWN OF QUEENSBURY -- '-' COMMITTEE FOR COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION \_/Li. Robert L. Eddy, Chairman 17 Owen Avenue Queensbury, N. Y. 12801 To. (x) ( x) { ) ( X) Warren County Planning Board Queensbury Town Planning Board Queensbury Town Zoning Board of Appeals Applicant Mrs. Arthur J. Seney, Secretary 8 Queensbury Avenue Queensbury, N. Y. 12801 Date. 12/12/88 Rer Site Plan #69-88 Jerry Brown Warren Street We have reviewed the request for.( ) Variance, (X) Site Plan Review, ) other - and have the following recommendations. (x) Approval ( ) Disapproval It is the oplnlon of the Committee that a junk yard does not have to look like a disaster area. There is a car dismantling operation in Queensbury that at last checkiny gives a fine appearance from the adjoining high\ßY, although it is agreed that prior to moving to Queensbury, it was not a model place to observe. At a recent inspection of the applicant's property it was nothing short of a mudhole with junk cars parked allover the area. The fence was so far from the road that it provided littlevi.3ual relief, especially for the vehicles that can be seen above the fence line and those in front of the fence were just dropped helter-skelter. The new additon to the building will help hide some of this and if the newly acquired damaged vehicles are deposited behind the building until such time as they are dismantled will help. It was suggested that a fence be placed parallel to the highway in the southeast corner of the property with plantings in front so that employees would have a designated place to park behind the fence would improve appearance. Then the .reconditioned cars that are for sale be placed in neat rows where they could be displayed. . A split rail fence about 10 feet out from the new addition and extending from the present building to even with the west end of the new addition planted with shurbs be placed behind thw fencing. The Committee asked that trees be planted at intervals along the existing fence that would hide the appearance of the vehicles at the back of the property. The Committee requests that final Certificate of Occupancy be withheld until these plans are implemented, or a bond could be placed guaranteeing performance. In addition to the above landscaping, screening and planting provisions, the Committee wishes to go on record that it does not approve. 1. Non-conforming signs, 2. Plastic or artificial trees, shrubs or flowers. In approving the above (or attaohed plans), the Committee has the expressed or implied agreement of the applicant to replace immediately dead trees, shrubs or plants, and to give proper maintenance to all plantings. All rubbish containers or dumpsters shall be scr~ened, all plantings shall be mulched and trees shall be retained or planted, as agreed. ~~rUll~.. tful~y . SJlbf!lpt(~d, ~.~ t/C/dj -Robert L. Eddy, Chairmán - k K /-I/G I í t:" . '~;:'r ..... ~~""- D~cember 19, 1988 TOWN OF. QUEENS BURY TOWN OF Qü~~"~8Uft't Bay.t HavHand Road. ~.NY 12801·9725 - 51¡¡'79;pU'~ r . d' DEC191988 , ,:.> Fit [< COP Y PLANNIN~<f£'NIN" DEPARTMENT TO: RICHARD ROBERTS, CHAIRMAN&: PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS FROM: DAVID HATIN, DIRECTOR BUILDING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT . , < RE: As Zoning Administrator I' have .no objection to the reconstruction of a stone and concrete sea wall, as long as Lake George'ParkCommissiolÌ and any other agency having jurisdiction have given approvals it nec.essary,an<tjh~.l'econstruction does not enlarge or alter the sea wall as it currently.standsj;,';r·:;:~:::;':;rt;/~,<C.f·:",~ .'. " ,,', '\:<>: '> : ':':,:.~,~,':'" :':': _::~':~~~~'.·!.'~!:~i<.~'~~::~t::~~~~ ~_:~~,~ ,~: ~,;? :~~\~::,~:, ',~\i, ~'>:5:- ':"'.,;:::~< ~" ':"' ';," ~':': ".. ; _,# ""F',' ..:',',:,,'~':_,:"...-. ,,! 'A "HOME OF NATURAL BEAUTY:..A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE" SETTLED 1763 p-x#/ ¿ IT ¡:::- TOWN OF QUEENSBURY COMMITTEE FOR COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION Robert L. Eddy, Chairman 17 Owen Avenue Queensbury, N. Y. 12fJOJ --- To. (x) Warren County Planning Board (x) Queensbury Toml Planning Board ~ ) Queensbury Town Zoning Board of Appeals (x) Applicant Mrs. Arthur J. Seney, Secretary 8 Queensbury Avenue Queensbury, N. Y. 12801 Date.12/12/88 Re. Site Plan #71-88 - The Whole Donut Quaker Road (former Dairy Queens) We have reviewed the request for.{ ) Variance, (~) Site Plan Review, ( ) Other - and have the following recommendations. (x) Approval ( ) Disapproval The black top will be removed directly in front of the building to be replaced by a grassed area 40 ft. x 60 ft. in the shape of an inverted "T". In this grassed area a shademaster locust will be planted directly behind the sign. The pre-existing sign was non-conforming and is being removed with the new sign to be placed at least 15 feet from the r-o-w. At the rear of this grassed area three burning bushes will be planted. Snow will be pushed toward the westerly border and to the rear. Ten foot ash trees are to be planted along the westerly border of the property. Since most of the work to open the business will be completed as soon as possible after approval, it is suggested that when the property is ready to receive certificate of occupancy, which will be earlier than the outside work can possibly be done, that a Temporary Ce~tificate of Occupancy be given, until the outside work is completed. In addition to the above landscaping, screening and planting provisions, the Committee wishes to go on record that it does not approvel 1. Non-conforming signs, 2. Plastic or artificial trees, shrubs or flowers. In approving the above (or attaohed plans), the Committee has the expressed or implied agreement of the applicant to replace immediately dead trees, shrubs or plants, and to give proper maintenance to all plantings. All rubbish containers or dumpsters shall be screened, all plantings shall be mulched and trees shall be retained or planted, as agreed. ~tfully.~ubmitted' .£. c cf 'Rob rt L. Eddy, Cha~an K¥H-/~/T6- -./ ESTABLISHED IN 1955 KESTNER ENGINEERS, P. c. CONSULTING ENGINEERS JOSEPH A. KESTNER. JR., P.E., LS. MARK L KESTNER. P.E. QUENTIN T. KESTNER. P.E. ANTHONY M. KESTNER. B.S. ONE KESTNER LANE TROY, NEW YORK 12180 518-273-7446 FAX: 518-273-7583 JAMES J. SHAUGHNESSY, P.E. JEROME THORNE, S.E.T. December 19, 1988 Ms. Lee York Senior Planner Town of Queensbury Queensbury Town Office Building Bay at Haviland Road Queensbury, NY 12804 RE: Town of Queensbury site Plan No. 71-88 - The Whole Donut, Inc. Dear Ms. York: I have examined the application and Drawing Nos. 1 and 2 by Morse Engineers for this site plan. 1. This project represents no increase in facility size and no' increase or change in site runoff. In fact an additional grassed area to the front of the building will allow some percolation and recharge. A grassed area also surrounds the site on two sides. 2. Water will be provided by the building's existing service to the facilities of the Queensbury Water District, and sewer service is available from the Central Queensbury Sewer District. The addition of grease-trap facilities may be necessary depending on existing facilities. By copy of this letter, I am notifying Mike Shaw of the Wastewater Department. 3. A suitable traffic barrier should protect the propane tank to the building's rear. 4. Adequate outside lighting should be installed for pedestrian safety. MUNICIPAL ENGiNEERING WATER, SEWAGE, AND DRAINAGE SYSTEMS SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FEDERAL/STATE GRANT APPLICATIONS PRECISION SURVEYING A.'JD G,ROUND CONTROL TELEVISION PIPELINE INSPECTIO:-;, ,'vtETERING & SAMPLING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND QUALITY ASSURA.'KE K ý..fI¡ ß / r It -- -- / " ) Ms. Lee York Senior Planner -2- December 19, 1988 With the above considered, I would recommend approval. Sincerely, KESTNER ENGI~C. c::..£)~';: þ. ~ Quentin T. Kestner, P.E. Vice President QTK/cp cc: Mike Shaw, Wastewater Technician Planning Board Members t? 'f1-Þ/1P-1 í N -- DRAINAGE COMPUTATIONS FOR THE MOHICAN MOTEL (ROUTE 9) PREPARED BY MORSE ENGINEERING 99 LOWER DIX AVENUE QUEENSBURY, NEW YORK NOVEMBER 30, 1988 /:l 'I#-/ ß I T ¡-I /~ -- ~ AREAS AREA PRIOR TO DISTURBANCE BY PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT 140 + 160 2 x 140 + 130 2 = 20,250 S.F. 180 + 210 2 x 130 + 120 2 = 24.375 S.F. 44,625 S.F. = 1.024 ACRES 43,560 AREA OF PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT AREA #1 (BUILDING AND PAVED AREA): 15.45 SQ.IN. X 900 S.F. = 13.905 43,560 = 0.319 ACRES AREA #2 (NORTH SIDE): (57 X 120) + (70 X 75) = 6.840 + 5.250 = 0.276 ACRES 43,560 AREA #3 (SOUTH SIDE): (1.024 AC. - 0.319 - 0.276) = 0.429 ACRES EXISTING CONDITIONS FORESTED AREA (PINE TREES) AVERAGE SLOPE OF WATERSHED = 14'/200 = 7% IMPERVIOUS FACTOR = 0.20 PROPOSED CONDITIONS IMPERVIOUS FACTORS - BUILDINGS AND PAVED AREAS = 0.95 GRASSED AREAS = 0.30 --" '-" RATIONAL METHOD OVERLAND FLOW = 17 MINUTES (EXISTING) 3 MINUTES (BUILDINGS AND PAVED AREAS) 17 MINUTES (GRASSED AREAS) = = 10 YEAR STORM - 1.5"/HOUR RAINFALL INTENSITY IMPERVIOUS FACTOR AREA #1 = AREA #2 = AREA #3 = 5.1"/HOUR 3.5"/HOUR 3.5"/HOUR 0.95 0.30 0.30 ESTIMATED DISCHARGE (Q = AIR) AREA #1: (EXISTING) (PROPOSED) Q = 0.319 X .20 X 5.1 = 0.319 CFS Q = 0.319 X .95 X 5.1 = 1.546 CFS DIFF. = 1.227 CFS AREA #2: (EXISTING) (PROPOSED) Q = 0.276 X .20 X 3.5 = 0.193 CFS Q = 0.276 X .30 X 3.5 = 0.290 CFS DIFF. = 0.097 CFS AREA #3: (EXISTING) (PROPÓSED) Q = 0.429 X .20 X 3.5 = 0.30 CFS Q = 0.429 X .30 X 3.5 = 0.45 CFS DIFF. = 0.15 CFS PERCOLATION RATE OF SOIL 1"/3 MIN./S.F. = 0.083'/3 MIN./S.F. OR 0.747 C.F./3 MIN./L.F. OF TRENCH AREA AND PERIMETER OF 6' DIAMETER DRY WELL 2n R = 2(3.1416)3 = 18.85 S.F./L.F. X 0.083'/3 MIN./S.F. 1.565 C.F./L.F. OF DRY WELL -"..--.......-....- " "-" ~ AREA #1 DIFFERENTIAL OF Q = 1.227 CFS X 60 X 3 = 220 C.F./3 MIN. THEREFORE, 220 C.F./3 MIN. 1.565 C.F./L.F. = 141 L.F. OF DRY WELL USE 4 - 6 FOOT DIAMETER DRY WELLS AND 120 L.F. OF 12" PERF. C.M.P. DETENTION POND STORAGE (220 C.F./3 MIN. - 90 - 20) = 110 C.F./3 MIN. Qo/Qi Vs/Vr = 0.319/1.546 0.47 = 0.21 = Vr = 5. x 0.319 = 0.136 AC. -F'I.'. ( STORAGE) Vs = 0.136 AC. X 0.47 = 0.064 AC.-FT. REQ'D. OR 2,776 C.F. DETENTION POND PROVIDED ( 4 ' /2 X 24) X 6 0' ( AVE. ) = 2 , 880 C. F . AREA #2 DIFFERENTIAL OF Q = 0.097 CF'S X 60 X 3 = 17.5 C.F./3 MIN. THEREFORE, 17.5 C.F./3 MIN. 1.565 C.F./L.F. = 11.16 L.F. OR 8 FOOT DEPTH OF DRY WELL AND 17.5 - 12.52 = 4.98/0.747 = 7 L.F. OF TRENCH SAY 10 L.F. OF TRENCH AREA #3 DIFFERENTIAL OF Q = 0.150 CFS X 60 X 3 = 27.0 C.F./3 MIN. THEREFORE, 27.0 C.F./3 MIN. 1.565 C.F./L.F. = 17.25 L.F. OR 8 FOOT DEPTH OF DRY WELL AND 27.0 - 12.52 = 14.48/0.747 = 19.4 L.F. OF TRENCH SAY 20 L.F. OF TRENCH (~¡r I ' -.0. ESTABLISHED IN 1955 KESTNER ENGINEERS, P. c. CONSUL TIì\:G ENGINEERS '''''''',' 1,josEPH A: KESTNER. JR.. P.E.. L.S. ¿,MARK L. KESTNER. P.E. ;',QUENTlN T. KESTNER. P.E. ,!-NTHONY M. KESTNER. 8.S. ,.~; ONE KESTNER LANE TROY. NEW YORK 12180 518-273-7446 FAX; 518-273-7583 ¡' JAMES J. SHAUGHNESSY. P.E. , JEROME THORNE, S.E.T. December 19, 1988 'Ms. Lee York' Senior Planner Town of Queensbury Queensbury Town Office Bay at Haviland Road Queensbury, NY 12804 RE: Town of Queensbury Site Plan No. 73-88 ~ John Ellis Building Dear Ms. York: I have reviewed the subject site plan, and I would comment as follows: 1. The applicant is proposing the installation of a 2,000 gallon holding tank for wastewater disposal. No details or specifications are available. I would recommend that a drawing be prepared by a Licensed Engineer providing the necessary details and specifications.~ It would also seem that the proposed location for the holding tank is off of the applicant's property. This arrangement would seem unacceptable unless the necessary authority from the owner is obtained. 2. Construction of a well is mentioned. No location for this well' is '. indicated. Location of adjacent septic systems . will . be necessary to insure proper separation between . the . proposed well and existing septic systems. " I would recommend that the application be tabled until the above information is submitted. Sincerely, ~~I:¿~ Quentin T. Kestner, P.E. Vice President QTK/Cp cc: Planning Board Members MUNICIPAL ENGINEERING WATER, SEWAGE, AND DRAINAGE SYSTEMS SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FEDERAL/STATE GRANT APPLlCA nONS PRECISION SURVEYING AND GROUND CONTROL TELEVISION PIPELINE INSPECTION. METERING & SAMPLING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND QUALITY ASSURANCE kfjl--/6lí ~(' ~,,!' " " . Jown oIQvwenjb:~~ '.~ r.:>' - NOT E ,. 0 FILE n Planning and Zoning Department LEE YORK , Senior Town Planner Application Number: 1'3 -~~ Applicant/Project Name: . ~y(~ '<\ t2\ \ \'$.. , \Vù.~ ~('~~\ \S ,~!>ç 1'~~)"\-ic.PI\. I~ a.. ~' \ ~ '\ ~ ~. . V\ ~~ --~~êCi }Å~_~ ~):i\~ d ~~~od ~~l ') L \ o"'.(? . ~ DSa0J2 ~ S I C<1-\\ûJ''''-orb \.,{)'^~C~ \ V\.cl~('~ ~('~* he ~ ~~~~Q~1~~;~7:~K\~~1 ~ s . ~'t~~Ð~ ~~~:~. [) n~t\ ~; ~/ t: BAY AT HAVILAND ROAD QlJEENSBURY, NEW YORK, 12801 TELEPHONE: (518) 792-5832 SETTLED 1763... HOME OF NATURAL BfAUTY... A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE ðX#/t3../i J I rrC)WN 01:; QUEENSBURY Bay at Haviland Road, Queensbury, NY 12801-9725 - 518·792·5832 November 30, 1988 Mr. John Ellis 43 McCrea street Fort Edl..ard, New York 12828 RE: Your Property on Sunnyside North Dear Mr. Ellis: I am wri ting this letter in response to your inquiry concerning the ~bwn's property rights or interest in certain property you own on Sunnyside North. It is my understanding that you have spoken to Rick Missi ta, Deputy Superintendent of the Highway Department, concerning this matter. Refore I can render a legal opinion relative to your question, it is necessary for me to gather all facts concerning the property in question. It appears that a portion of the property (upon which you wish to locate the septic system) I..as once part of a public road. It would further appear that during the 1960's, that road, Sunnyside North, was re-located and the property in question has essentiall y not been used by the Town since tlJat time. lis part of my research on this matter, I am attempting to determine whether the property was originally acquired by deed or by usage. I am also attempting to determine whether tlJere were any resolutions or conveyances made by the Town concerning tlJis particular parcel. Once that information is available, I will then be able to make a legal determin- ation as to the Town's rights of ownership in the property. Rick Missita has already conducted some investigation into this matter, but unfortunately, this is a matter which will take some time as we are going back a number of years to gather all necessary information. As soon as we have further information regarding this matter, we will of course, contact you. In the meantime, if you slJOuld have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact my office. Very truly yours, ';5/ ~4 I PAUL B. DUSEK TOWN ATTQRNEY PBD:pam c: Rick Missita, Deputy Highway Superintendent "HOME OF NATURAL BEAUTY. . . A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE" SETTLED 1763 ¡ç 'f/+ I f'j. I T J~