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TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
Bay at Haviland Road, Queensbury, NY 12804-9725-518-792-5832
QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD
WORKSHOP MEETING
Monday, February 13, 1989 at 7:30 p.m.
Location: Town Office Building Meeting Room
AGENDA
1. West Mountain Villages (Planned Unit Development): A meeting with the Town
Consultants regarding traffic concerns.
2. State Environmental Quality Review Act for the following:
Bedford Close, Section 6 Subdivision located at the intersection of Corinth Road
and West Mountain Road. For 23 lots on 34 ± acres of land in a Suburban Residential
1 acre zone.
Hickory Acres Subdivision located 200 ft. south of Sweet Road, 1,000 ft. west of
Country Club Road. For a 10 lot subdivision of the present 13 acres of vacant land.
Lots will be sold. Zone: Single Family Residential 1 acre zone.
3. Recommendation by the Planning Board on Rezoning Petitions.
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TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
Bay at Haviland Road, Queensbury, NY 12804-9725-518-792-5832
QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD
AGENDA FOR PETITION(S) FOR A CHANGE OF ZONE
FOR RECOMMENDATION BY THE PLANNING BOARD
AS PER RESOLUTION NUMBER 64, 1989 TOWN BOARD
February 13, 1989
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Dunham's Bay Fish and Game Club
P2-89
Garfield P. Raymond and Ronald L. Newell
P3-89
Frank J. and Isobel L. Munoff
P4-89
Walter and Marie Fisher
P5-89
Airron Industrial Corporation
P6-89
Airron Industrial Corporation
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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD
Workshop Session: Monday, February 13, 1989 at 7:30 p.m.
MINUTES
WEST MOUNTAIN VILLAGES, PUD NO.3
Meeting with Town Consultants regarding traffic concerns.
Present: Lee A. York, Senior Planner
John Goralski, Planner
Paul Dusek, Town Attorney
Richard Roberts, Chairman
Hildagarde E. Mann, Secretary
Frank DeSantis
Peter Cartier
Joseph Dybas
Keith Jablonski
Absent: Victor Macri
Town Consultants: Thomas Nace of Rist Frost Associates, Dennis J. MacElroy, P.E. of
Environmental Design Partnership, Dennis O'Malley of Greiner Engineers.
Mr. MacElroy: All reports and correspondence are submitted to the Town Board.
Mr. O'Malley: There is a need for a dialogue to discuss the impacts of traffic as it relates
to the Master Plan. There is a need for a reasonable approach. This
is a phased project. The only way to evaluate the project is a "best guess"
approach. It is difficult to decide what will be the preferential route
will be until the project is constructed.
The process which we are trying to come to grips with in Phase I; there
are minimal impacts on Exit 16 or Exit 18. After Phase I, that is where
the impacts occur. At that point we need to reevaluate the project.
We cannot, at this time, evaluate what will happen. There is very little
data on how this type of development affects the traffic circulation.
The Town has the right to review the project prior to any subsequent
phases.
Mrs. Mann: My understanding is that the major commercial investment is to be
completed in Phase I. That is a heavy advantage when they want to
go to Phase II.
Mr. MacElroy: There is some misunderstanding. What we will be looking at are road
improvements based on the impacts.
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Mr. Cartier:
Mr. O'Malley:
Mr. DeSantis:
Mr. Dybas:
Mr. O'Malley:
Mr. DeSantis:
Mr. Cartier:
Mr. DeSantis:
Mrs. Mann:
Mr. Roberts:
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We do not want to approve Phase I based on possibilities.
We take background growth, circulation patterns, road constraints and
predicted populations of the Planned Unit Development and make
calcula tions.
Conceptual approval will be granted with the understanding that traffic
will be monitored.
There are 4 lanes to VanDusen Road. What happens beyond that? This
is to take place in 1993. The approvals necessary should be applied for
currently. Ten years from today the project is in Phase II and we have
no hard information on it.
Has the Village of Corinth been involved in these discussions.
Yes, they are generally negative. The Department of Transportation
feels that Exit 18 will have problems no matter what development occurs.
Does Fred Austin believe that he can accomplish the minimal improvement
necessary for Phase I and Phase II? How long has it taken to build Quaker
Road? We need to know from Fred Austin what his capabilities are.
Requirement for light at Potter and Aviation Road but no impact at
Exit 19 and Exit 20. How is this possible? Where are they going?
Both stated that there is inconsistency throughout this document.
The three year construction period will take a drastic toll on the existing
roadways. How will Fred Austin be able to take care of road improvements
when he probably will only be able to do repairs.
The Towns' philosophy is not to allow 4 lane traffic on West Mountain
Road.
Exit 18 becomes critical at any point beyond Phase I. There are also
limitations on the exit and entrance ramps.
Three percent background growth is not appropriate for this area of
Queensbury.
The Board requests a written report from the Town's Consultants. The
Board requests information from Fred Austin.
Finicular information - trip generation and roadway impacts.
Minutes taken by Mrs. Lee A. York, Senior Planner