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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 25TH, 1989
7:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
RICHARD ROBERTS, CHAIRMAN
HILDA MANN, SECRETARY
FRANK DESANTIS
VICTOR MACRI
PETER CARTIER
JOSEPH DYBAS
KEITH JABLONSKI
TOWN ATTORNEY-PAUL DUSEK
TOWN ENGINEER-THOMAS NACE
LEE A. YORK, SENIOR PLANNER
JOHN GORALSKI, PLANNER
PAT COLLARD, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
APPROVAL OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MINUTES OF JUNE 20TH,
1989 MINUTES AS SUBMITTED
APPROVAL OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MINUTES OF JUNE 21ST,
1989 AS SUBMITTED
NEW BUSINESS
SITE PLAN NO. 44-89 WR-lA KEN SEARLES BIRCH ROAD, GLEN LAKE FOR CONSTRUCTION
OF ONE "L" SHAPED DOCK. (WARREN COUNTY PLANNING) TAX MAP NO. 39-1-33 SECTION:
4.020 D LOT SIZE: .20 ACRES
STAFF INPUT
Notes from John Goralski, Planner (on file) Warren County Planning Board approved. (on file)
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
NO COMMENT
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN NO. 44-89 KEN SEARLES,Introduced by Joseph Dybas
who moved for its adoption, seconded Peter Cartier:
To approve as it minimizing the congested appearance of the shoreline.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 1989, by the following vote:
A YES: Mr. DeSantis, Mr. Macri, Mrs. Mann, Mr. Cartier, Mr. Dybas, Mr. Jablonski, Mr. Roberts
NOES: None
ABSENT:N one
SUBDMSION NO. 13-1989 WR-lA PRELIMINARY STAGE TYPE: UNLISTED HERBERT TYRER
ASK DRIVE TO SUBDIVIDE 5 ACRES INTO 3 LOTS. THERE ARE PRESENTLY TWO EXISTING
HOUSES. ON THE TillRD LOT: A HOUSE WILL BE BUILT APPROX. (52 FT. BY 28 FT.) TAX
MAP NO. 39-1-45.2 TAX MAP NO. 39-1-58.5
MARK BOMBARD REPRESENTING HERBERT TYRER
MR. ROBERTS--Stated this was tabled some time ago.
MRS. YORK-Noted that they had a submission and it was originally five lots and then it was
reduced to four lots. At this point in time the submission is for three lots; its a new submission.
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STAFF INPUT
Notes from Lee A. York, Senior Planner (on file)
ENGINEER REPORT
Thomas Nace, Town Engineer (on file)
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
JACKL YN TUBA-Ash Drive across the way from the property under discussion at the moment.
I just wanted to address the public information. That notice that was wrapped around the
telephone pole I think was quite visible because we stopped and we looked at it. We also received
a notice in the mail I like to know where I got it, it came to me certified, perhaps Mr. Tyrer
or did someone else send this to me? Who sent this to me I like to know?
MRS. YORK-The applicant is required to provide notice to all neighbors that are within 500
feet.
MRS. TUBA-Perhaps that answers your other question. I, for one, did receive this notice okay.
My only question was I didn't look at the tax map ahead of time is there a way I can see that?
DISCUSSION AMONG STAFF AND MRS. TUBA REGARDING TAX MAP
PETER MALLIE-Glen Lake directly across the street. We're concerned about beach privileges,
right-of-way's to the lake and everything else like that because we have large driveways and
we're not really interested in right-of-way's. We are opposed to beach privileges for anybody
across the street. In the past it has happened like that.
MR. MACRI-I think that to require an access to your property or anybody else's property would
have to be something of. . .
MR. PERKINS-I own the property right next to his. We've had a problem in the last couple
of years with surface water coming down off the hill from that section. They came out a week
ago Monday, and put a catch basin right by my driveway, but I don't think it's going to solve
the problem. With another house in there we're going to have more runoff coming down from
there to. We are going to have to do something about the runoff in that area up above.
MRS. MANN-Who put the catch basin in?
MR. PERKINS-The Town of Queensbury, but it's not going to solve the problem.
MR. DESANTIS-Where is your property relative to this map?
MR. PERKINS-My driveway directly across the road from the one they just built. They whole
upper layer all drains right down and drains in my property, and then goes in his garage, and
then it goes to. . .property next door. Last winter we come up on one weekend and couldn't
get in there. It was all glare ice where it all goes down into our property.
MR. ROBERTS-I suspect most of that is coming from the higher grounds above probably this
particular. . .is not going to add to that I would think. Tom have you had a chance to look
at this?
MR. NACE-We have looked at the drainage. . .
MR. PERKINS-Your going to have a lot more snow in that area and an extra house it's going
to pile up and then you will have that extra runoff in the spring. Their's is all graded so
everything is going to come over into our property.
MRS. MANN-If it's rolling downhill and the snow is melting and it's coming whether there is
a house there or isn't. It's doing it now is it not?
MR. PERKINS-Yes. Where the property is it's not ditched on that side. All water on that
side has to go over on our side because. . .drainage on that side.
MRS. MANN-I suggest that the Highway Superintendent look at it. Have you contacted the
Highway Department before now about this problem?
MR. PERKINS-Yes, they came and put in the catch basins on Monday, but they didn't do anything
about the other side. On top of that when you come off Canterbury Lane, our driveway is
right there and we are getting water from this direction, water down off the hill and its all
coming right in on our property.
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MR. MALLIE-You don't seem to think that there is any problem if you put the culvert this
way. The problem we seem to have now is because of existing conditions. The roads are plowed
in the winter time, but not only the bank up on that side, but the snow removal for the homes
on that side are going to cause a larger embankment in a concentrated area because the catch
basins they have put in now are totally insufficient for that particular. . .are definitely going
to come into our area because we are on a much lower grade. I know you have a topographical
map it should be right on there.
MRS. MANN-Where is your snow going from your driveway right now in his empty lot?
MR. MALLIE-It goes right straight down.
MRS. MANN-Where does your snow go, do you have a driveway. What do you do with it?
MR. MALLIE-We push it down to the bank by the lake.
MRS. MANN-His driveway is not going to be able to take care of his snow?
MR. PERKINS-The one that they already just built he is going to have to push his snow out
of that driveway right onto the road, right into our driveway.
MRS. MANN-Why are you saying he is going to do this?
MR. PERKINS-Where is he going to put it?
MRS. MANN-That's his responsibility, but I don't think he is going to put it in your driveway.
Our engineer says that there is no drainage that is going to come out of there anymore than
there is now.
MR. MALLIE-What is the basic purpose of the meeting in asking us to come over here tonight?
MR. ROBERTS-We appreciate your input.
MR. DESANTIS-Lee, after preliminary submission does the Highway Superintendent looked
at these plans?
MRS. YORK-Yes he does.
MR. DESANTIS-I think it would be appropriate at that time after he looks at these plans. .
.position created by the neighbors. .. We cannot put a drainage ditch in sir, that is the Town
Highway Department. Those are the same people who put the catch basin in. If your not
satisfied with what they're doing you should contact them. It would be brought up to them
at the meeting in the meeting where the Superintendent of Highways is present or has a
representative there and these plans for all subdivision are discussed. Staff can bring that
up to him at that time and tell him that there is no drainage ditch catching any water on these
lots and maybe he will be able to maintain a ditch for you. The developer can't do it because
its not his property its a town road and we can't ask the developer to do it.
MR. PERKINS-But still in all we have to sit there and let all this water. . .
MR. DESANTIS-No sir, I just explained to you exactly what you can do if your concerned about
it. You can contact the Town Highway Department, he will be notified of this application.
Staff will tell him of your concerns.
MR. PERKINS-Paul who?
MR. DESANTIS-Paul Naylor.
MR. ROBERTS-Staff will contact him anyway. Maybe there is something the applicant and
the Highway Superintendent can do here to alleviate this.
MR. BOMBARD-I'll contact Paul, and I'll take a look at the situation. I can not believe that
the runoff from the north side of Ash Drive is the problem in particular. I think it must be
coming down from the center of the road and from the south side of Ash Drive. If it is coming
out of the drain a better drainage swale should be created down along the edge of Ash Drive.
MR. MALLIE-The drainage problems in particular may be solved. They did a good job. They
did explain that probably in the future that they would need to put a larger ditch along side.
They will probably re-pave. He has already explained that quite well. I have confidence that
will be corrected. What we're concerned about is the snow from the other side where they
are going to be putting the snow next winter. We ask him a question about right-of-way to
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the lake actually why we are here.
MR. BOMBARD-The right-of-way for that parcel of land I believe is through the casino.
MR. CARTIER-For those three lots there is one right-of-way?
MR. BOMBARD-I'm not sure about his deed when he sells the other two lots. Lots one and
three they will actually get access. He is retaining Lot 2 for his personal home. He has never
spoken to me about lake access for the other two lots.
MR. CARTIER-I think you may want to address that.
MRS. TUBA-I believe Mr. Tyrer bought that property from Mr. Leyford, who used to own the
casino. Probably he made some arrangements for right-of-way when he bought that property.
I cannot comprehend how these people could have any right-of-way through private owners
property. I'm not going to let anyone else from the other side come through my property without
my permission. They have no right to come through. The only right-of-way it seems to me
they would have had to been if there is a right-of-way would have to have been put into the
deed when Leyford sold that property to Mr. Tyrer. I don't think the rest of the homeowners
in the area should be concern about that problem.
MRS. YORK-Mrs. Clark, has made me aware that she has a easement to her property which
is not shown on your map. It should be shown in your final plan.
LINDA WHITTY-Is it Mr. Tyrer's intent to sell off the property. I understand he is going to
retain one house for his own personal use is he intending to sell off the other pieces?
MR. BOMBARD-Yes he is. He is going to retain Lot 2, there is no house yet. He wants to
build on Lot 2, and sell the other two. I believe one of them is going to his daughter. Okay,
Thank you.
RESOLUTION WHEN DETERMINATION OF NO SIGNIFICANCE IS MADE,
RESOLUTION NO. 13-1989,Introduced by Peter Cartier who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Keith Jablonski:
WHEREAS, there is presently before the Planning Board an application for: Subdivision No.
13-1989, PRELIMINARY APPROVAL, Herbert Tyrer; and
WHEREAS, this Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board
action is subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act,
NOW,THEREFORE,BEIT
RESOLVED:
1. No federal agency appears to be involved.
2. The following agencies are involved.
None
3. The proposed action considered by this Board is unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and
the regulations of the Town of Queensbury.
4. An Environmental Assessment Form has been completed by the applicant. A full
Environmental Workshop was held on the project with the entire Environmental Assessment
Form reviewed and a Negative Declaration was recommended at that time.
5. Having considered and thoroughly analyzed the relevant areas of environmental concern
and having considered the criteria for determining whether a project has a significant
environmental impact as the same is set forth in Section 617.ll of the Official Compilation
of Codes, Rules and Regulations for the State of New York, this Boards finds that the action
about to be undertaken by this Board will have no significant environmental effect and
the Chairman of the Planning Board is hereby authorized to execute and sign and file as
may be necessary a statement of non-significance or a negative declaration that may be
required by law.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 1989, by the following vote:
A YES: Mr. DeSantis, Mr. Macri, Mrs. Mann, Mr. Cartier, Mr. Dybas, Mr. Jablonski, Mr. Roberts
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NOES: None
ABSENT:N one
DISCUSSION HELD
MR. BOMBARD-Is there anything else that I missed?
MR. CARTIER-There is a two page note from Lee York.
MR. BOMBARD-I will summit the erosion control measures that Mr. Nace wants.
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MR. CARTIER-Would you feel better if they reposted a flat sign?
MR. GORALSKI-It seems like all the neighbors were notified and are here.
MRS. YORK-Our Ordinance clearly stipulates how it's to be set out.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDMSION NO. 13-1989, PRELIMINARY STAGE, HERBERT
TYRER,Introduced by Peter Cartier who moved for its adoption, seconded by Keith Jablonski:
With the stipulation that the concerns expressed by Lee York, in her notes to file be addressed
in the final stage that the right-of-way to the lake be addressed if needed, and that the Highway
Superintendent and catch basins be addressed.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 1989, by the following vote:
A YES: Mr. DeSantis, Mr. Macri, Mrs. Mann, Mr. Cartier, Mr. Dybas, Mr. Jablonski, Mr. Roberts
NOES: None
ABSENT:N one
SITE PLAN NO. 45-89 TYPE: ß WR-lA PANKAJ K. DAS VIRGINIA DAS GOING NORTH ON
ROCKHURST ROAD, THE FOURTH HOUSE FROM THE END, (RED HOUSE) MODIFICATIONI
ALTERATION: TO BmLD A DECK ON THE EXISTING DOCK. (WARREN COUNTY PLANNING)
TAX MAP NO. 15-1-19 SECTION: 4.020 D, 9.010 LOT SIZE: 10,000 SQ. FT.
VIRGINIA DAS PRESENT
STAFF INPUT
Notes from John Goralski, Planner (on file) Warren County Planning approved. Stipulation
that the deck not extend out over the land, and that access be from the dock only. (on file)
DISCUSSION HELD
MR. ROBERTS-Asked if Warren County Planning's recommendation was a problem?
MRS. DAS-Stated the only trouble is that when you go onto the dock the land slopes down
sharply. Thinks that it would help if they put the stairs attached to the land there instead
of coming down onto the dock.
MRS. ROBERTS-Doesn't believe that was one of the concerns of the County.
MR. ROBERTS-Stated the application that they are looking at the deck did overlap the land
by a few feet.
MR. JABLONSKI-Believes that you could still do this if you shorten up that section.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
NO COMMENT
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
DISCUSSION HELD
MR. CARTIER-Asked if she already received the variance?
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MRS. DAS-Yes.
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN NO. 45-89, PANKAJ K. DAS, VIRGINIA DAS,Introduced
by Mrs. Mann who moved for its adoption, seconded by Keith Jablonski:
To approve as applied for.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 1989, by the following vote:
A YES: Mr. DeSantis, Mr. Macri, Mrs. Mann, Mr. Cartier, Mr. Dybas, Mr. Jablonski, Mr. Roberts
NOES: None
ABSENT:N one
SITE PLAN NO. 46-89 WR-lA TYPE: n JAMES B. AYERS EAST SHORE OF WARNER BAY
ON LAKE GEORGE FOR RECONSTRUCTION OF THE TWO DOCKS WITH ADDITION OF
A BOATHOUSE. (WARREN COUNTY PLANNING) TAX MAP NO. 19-1-42 SECTION: 4.020
D LOT SIZE: I ACRE
APPLICANT NOT PRESENT
MR. MACRI-Feels that this doesn't require an explanation.
MR. ROBERTS-Feels that they should address this.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
NO COMMENT
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
STAFF INPUT
Notes from John Goralski, Planner (on file) Warren County Planning approved. (on file)
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN NO. 46-89, JAMES B. A YERS,Introduced by Victor Macri
who moved for its adoption, seconded by Frank DeSantis:
To approve as it meets the intent of our Board.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 1989, by the following vote:
A YES: Mr. DeSantis, Mr. Macri, Mrs. Mann, Mr. Dybas, Mr. Roberts
NOES: Mr. Cartier, Mr. Jablonski
ABSENT:N one
SITE PLAN NO. 47-89 TYPE: n WR-lA ROBERT ECKARDT ASSEMBLY POINT ROAD,
NORTHERLY ALONG ASSEMBLY POINT ROAD, 1 MILE, FIRST HOUSE ON WATER (GRAY),
ADJACENT TO TOWN WATER STORAGE TANK (BLUE). FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A
BOATHOUSE WITH A SUNDECK ON TOP U8 FT. BY 30 FT.) OPEN SIDED. WILL BE ADDED
ON SIDE OF EXISTING STAKE DOCK. (WARREN COUNTY PLANNING) TAX MAP NO. 8-2-6
SECTION: 4.020 D LOT SIZE: .21 ACRES
ROBERT ECKARDT PRESENT
STAFF INPUT
Notes from John Goralski, Planner (see attached) Warren County Planning disapproved. Denied
based on the fact it was an overuse of the property on the fact of what was presented to the
Board. (on file)
DISCUSSION HELD
MR. ECKARDT-Stated he was not notified of the Warren County meeting. Didn't receive
the letter and the phones at the town were out for three days. He spoke with Mr. Hague, of
the Warren County Planning Board. When they came up to review the boathouse they thought
that a three foot section up on the top deck was going to connect the boathouse which it isn't.
Mr. Hatin, has been up there when this was just a working area when I built the boathouse
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which he did approve. There will be steps coming up from the bottom.
MR. GORALSKI-Stated Mr. Eckardt, is in compliance will all the previous Board decisions
that have been made on that.
MR. ECKARDT-Has a permit from the Lake George Park Commission which he did get last
February. Sent a letter to Warren County which they were going to send to you. Spoke with
Patricia Tatich, asked if she contacted them.
MRS. YORK-Spoke with Patricia Tatich, didn't indicate that a letter was coming over to me.
She just explained to me exactly what we have here, that it was an overuse of the property.
MR. ECKARDT-Stated that Mr. Hague, told him that they didn't understand the plans that's
why they voted no.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
NO COMMENT
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
DISCUSSION HELD
MR. CARTIER-Asked if he was saying that the stairs will lead from the dock to the deck?
MR. ECK ·ARDT-Right.
MR. DYBAS-Asked if he had any plans for the deck eventually?
MR. ECKARDT-No. The boathouse goes right to the water line from here (refers to map)
to the top deck is 3 feet. Would either have to put a 3 foot walkway or stairs going down.
MR. DYBAS-Asked how many docks is he going to have?
MR. ECKARDT-Two.
MR. JABLONSKI-Asked which one they we're talking about a walkway or a set of stairs?
MR. ECKARDT-Stated which ever one he could do. Prefers the walkway.
MR. GORALSKI-Stated according to the determinations of our Zoning Administrator, and
the Adirondack Park, if the deck attached to the house is attached to the deck on top of the
boathouse, it is an extension of the deck that's attached to the house and therefore would require
a setback variance.
MR. ROBERTS-Stated then they would go with the stairs.
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN NO. 47-89 ROBERT ECKARDT,Introduced by Peter Cartier
who moved for its adoption, seconded by Keith Jablonski:
Approve with the stipulation that the stairs be constructed from the 5 foot 4 inch wide dock
to the deck and that no stairs lead from the upper deck to the top of the boathouse.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 1989, by the following vote:
A YES: Mr. Macri, Mr. Cartier, Mr. Jablonski, Mr. Roberts
NOES: Mr. Dybas
ABSTAIN:Mr. DeSantis, Mrs. Mann
DISCUSSION HELD
MR. GORALSKI-Suggested that they check with the Town Attorney to determine whether
the abstention could count up to the majority.
PAUL DUSEK-Has to check this.
AWAITING COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON THIS MATTER
SITE PLAN NO. 48-89 TYPE: UNLISTED HC-lA STEVEN AND DONNA SUTTON ROUTE 9,
-l MILE SOUTH OF THE GREAT ESCAPE, ACROSS FROM AGWAY BETWEEN EXISTS 19 AND
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20 OF 1-87 FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW GARDEN CENTER, FLORIST PLUS FURNITURE
SALES. (WARREN COUNTY PLANNING) TAX MAP NO. 68-1-15 SECTION: 4.020 K LOT SIZE:
7 ACRES
STEVEN SUTTON PRESENT/JIM MILLER ARCHITECT
STAFF INPUT
Notes from Lee A. York, Senior Planner (see attached) Letter from Dave Hatin, Director
of Building and Code Enforcement. (see attached)
ENGINEER REPORT
Thomas Nace, Town Engineer (see attached)
DISCUSSION HELD
MR. NACE-Refers to comment #1 of the engineer report. Stated if he is going to get 1,000
gallons you are going to require a spedes permit. You might want to consider taking out some
of that store area even if it's 100 square feet to get under the spedes permit requirement.
MR. SUTTON-Asked if it was noted that this is for employee's only?
MR. MILLER-Stated that there was going to be just one toilet a laboratory for employee use
only.
MR. NACE-Then this is okay. Recomended that the rest of these things be resolved before
approval. Important ones are the parking lot circulation, the number of parking spaces, and
the grading around the building we will have to see that presented a little more clearer.
MR. CARTIER-Asked what the expansion was?
MR. SUTTON-We've been running out of green houses so we're putting a decent building up
there to run the same business out of. Our feeling is that it peaks in the May, June, time frame
and that's before the July, August heavy traffic on our property. We don't feel that's really
going to have a big impact on business that were doing already.
MR. CARTIER-Stated you have to take the whole site and figure out the retail floor space
and go from there to make sure you have adequate parking.
MRS. MANN-Asked what the difference was between retail as opposed to commercial and
shopping center?
MRS. YORK-Stated Dave Hatin, reviewed these plans and it he did considered them to be
strictly commercial.
MR. SUTTON-Noted that Warren County Planning did address the problem with entrances
and exits. Since being at the Warren County Planning Board, I re-striped the parking spaces.
I've started to put arrows to try to get the flow of the traffic better. It's already working,
we've installed three more handicapped spots. We are trying to address all those problems.
As to the drainage we aren't capable of dumping water on any of our neighbors because we're
the low point of the area.
MR. NACE-Stated he still wants to make sure.
MR. DESANTIS-Feels that on the plan they have to show how much of the space is retail and
how much is commercial. Doesn't agree that this is commercial. Asked can we close off one
of the curb cuts. Asked staff if you have to get D.O.T. approval before you can close off a
curb cut?
MR. NACE-Stated that you have to get their work permit to do work in the state highway
right-of-way. Doesn't think there is any question that they would allow you to close off a
curb cut.
MR. ROBERTS-Asked Tom about the soils being too quick for the leach fields?
MR. NACE-Stated this would be for a D.E.C. approval of a leach pit type septic system, D.E.C.
new regulations came into effect about a year ago. If he get under 1,000 gallons a day then
he falls within your regulations and Health Department regulations. Stated this needs to be
stated somewhere on the plans. The number of employees, estimated use, and size of the septic
system based on that.
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MR. DESANTIS-Asked if the drainage area was big enough to have 15 inch pipes in there?
MR. NACE-Stated he hasn't looked at the site of the pipes per flow considerations. Would
guess that a 15 inch would be adequate, but there should be some calculations for this.
MR. DESANTIS-Asked if the recharge basin will hold the water?
MR. N ACE-Stated the calculations that they reviewed were not correctly done.
MR. ROBERTS-Asked if the Board and staff still has a problem with the parking spaces?
MRS. YORK-Asked Mr. DeSantis, that on the plan does he want retail and commercial. . .
MR. DESANTIS-Stated he is trying to get a handle based on what we've got.
MRS. MANN-Stated Sears Roebuck, is in a mall situation it sells furniture which he is going
to do.
MRS. YORK-Stated this is probably plaza commercial. It still would be considered commercial
because of parking.
MR. DYBAS-Stated that he can think of five things that Mr. Sutton has. Maybe by looking
at that maybe this is why he determined it commercial.
MRS. MANN-Asked what would be considered a mall?
PAT COLLARD-Three.
MRS. MANN-Stated he has the potential for a mall which is commercial.
MR. SUTTON-Feels that the traffic is not going to be any greater, doesn't think deliveries
are going to be any worse because we are already handling it.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
CHARLES MC NULTY-14 Twicwood Lane, we're kind of kitty corner to the back of the site.
I think primarily we have a question do you foresee expanding your employee parking lot at
all?
MR. SUTTON-No.
MR. MC NULTY-I think that this would be our main concern. We are not really impressed
with what that did to the value of the property that is directly behind them. We don't want
to see that happen behind us. Otherwise we have no problem to what they're proposing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN NO. 48-89, STEVEN AND DONNA SUTTON,Introduced by
Hilda Mann who moved for its adoption, seconded by Peter Cartier:
That the following be provided before they appear before us again: That the employee bathroom
facilities be identified. The 1,000 gallon septic system which would come under that so that
it would meet the Town of Queensbury regulations. The access to Route 9, be changed to
two road cuts. That the engineering is properly done. The erosion control measures be properly
identified and the propose 4 inch drainage pipes be 15. That you adequately identify the sheeting
and the amount of runoff that is going to be contained in that discharge basin so you know
it's adequate. That the five handicapped spaces be identified and to show where the arrows
are going as to the parking and stripping.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 1989, by the following vote:
A YES: Mr. DeSantis, Mrs. Mann, Mr. Cartier, Mr. Dybas, Mr. Jablonski, Mr. Roberts
NOES: None
ABSTAIN:Mr. Macri
SITE PLAN NO. 47-89 ROBERT ECKARDT
MR. DUSEK-Stated that there is a section of the law that says, in the event that you have
a disapproval by the Warren County Planning Board, you cannot overturn that or your approval
has to be by a vote of majority plus one of all the members of the Board. There are no exception
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or extensions.
MRS. YORK-Stated if the Board would want to rescind their vote and consider a tabling of
this application I can call the County tomorrow and ask if they will rehear it.
MOTION TO RESCIND PREVIOUS MOTION REGARDING SITE PLAN NO. 47-89, ROBERT
ECKARDT,Introduced by Peter Cartier who moved for its adoption, seconded by Keith Jablonski:
To allow the applicant to have his application be considered by the Warren County Planning
Board. With the agreement of the applicant that the application be tabled.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 1989, by the following vote:
A YES: Mr. Macri, Mrs. Mann, Mr. Cartier, Mr Dybas, Mr. Jablonski, Mr. Roberts
NOES: None
ABSTAIN:Mr. DeSantis
FRESHWATER WETLANDS FW2-89 CURTIS L. MADISION, JR. HALFWAY BROOK, HAVILAND
ROAD DIMENSIONS OF WETLAND: 300 FT. BY 750 FT. TAX MAP NO. 54-5-6.6 TO
CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE AND LEVEL LOT WITillN 100 FT. OF WETLANDS
BUFFER. INSTALL ROADWAY AND BRIDGE THROUGH WETLAND IN THREE PHASES.
PHASE I-FILL TO STREAM BANK: PHASE n CONSTRUCT BRIDGE: PHASE m-COMPLETE
FILL TO REAR OF WETLAND.
Request by applicant to have his application tabled.
FRESHWATER WETLANDS FW3-89 WARREN COUNTY DEPT. OF PUBLIC WORKS NIAGARA
MOHAWK POWER CORPORATION THE COUNTY OF WARREN PROPOSES TO WIDEN
QUAKER ROAD FROM TWO LAND TO FOUR LANES INCLUDING A 16 FT. WIDE MEDIAN
FOR LEFT TURNS FROM THE PINEVIEW CEMETERY TO ALBANY ENGINEERING, A
DISTANCE OF 1.87 MILES. TAX MAP NO. 59-1-10
FRED AUSTIN OF WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS PRESENT
MR. ROBERTS-Stated that D.E.C. issued a permit.
MR. DESANTIS-Stated that it makes sense that whereever D.E.C. is a lead agency, and D.E.C.
has issued a permit that we shouldn't have to review it.
MR. ROBERTS-Asked Board how they felt about this.
MR. ROBERTS-Stated that they have said before that we would like to somehow amend our
Ordinance to say, that D.E.C. will look at the larger ones and will look at the smaller ones.
FRED AUSTIN-Stated that the mitigated measures for this wetland permit was in fact worked
through the Queensbury Town Board, and has to do with the Glenwood A venue, Hovey Pond
project.
MRS. YORK-Stated that they are requesting that anyone coming before us for a wetlands
permit would have to apply for a D.E.C. permit and have that in hand before they come before
this Board.
MOTION TO APPROVE FRESHWATER WETLANDS PERMIT FW3-89, WARREN COUNTY
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS,Introduced by Victor Macri who moved for its adoption
seconded by Hilda Mann:
That the Department of Environmental Conservation has accordingly approved this application.
To make a recommendation that the Planning Staff work to amend the Ordinance so that any
approved wetlands by D.E.C. not come before this Board. We will rely on D.E.C. to handle
SEQRA in this matter.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 1989, by the following vote:
A YES: Mr. DeSantis, Mr. Macri, Mrs. Mann, Mr. Cartier, Mr. Dybas, Mr. Jablonski, Mr. Roberts
NOES: None
ABSENT:N one
On motion the meeting was adjourned.
Richard Roberts, Chairman
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