1983-07-06
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MINUTES
Queensbury Planning Board
July 6, 1983 8:00 P.M.
Present: R. Roberts, Chairman
R. Montesi, Secretary
J. Dybas
H. Mann
K. Sorlin
R. Noll
S. Lynn, Staff
Absent: W. Threw
The minutes of the June 1, 1983 meeting were approved as written.
The minutes of the Special Meeting June 16, 1983 (on site Albany
International Engineered Systems) were approved with two abstentions
(Sorlin and Dybas) due to absence.
SUBDIVISION: Karl Paulsen #2-83
2 lots-off Pulver Road and on Lake George
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Mr. Paulsen and Mr. Leon Steves present. Planning Board previously
denied recommending approval of variance to lot size and not fronting
on public highway. Zoning Board of Appeals approved variance. Soil
and percolation tests show sufficient for septic system as outlined.
Mr. Roberts asked if there were a future problem meeting the sanitary
code would they be prepared to put in a holding tank. Mr. Paulsen
said they would be prepared to do so. Mrs. Mann offered a motion
for Sketch Plan approval, seconded by Mr. Noll. All voted in favor
with the exception of Mr. Montesi who voted no. A public hearing is
set for August 3, 1983.
SUBDIVISION: Hickory Hill, Charles and Beverly Maine, Developers
east side Ridge Road and south side Sunnyside Rd.
(Sketch Plan for 49 lots)
Mr. Maine and Mr. Steves present. Mr. Roberts noted that this
subdivision is proposed to be built on property the Board is familiar
with because another developer came before them some time ago but
the subdivision never materialized. Lots will be larger than the
required 30,000 sq. ft. and highway standards will be conformed to.
Mr. Sorlin offered a motion for Sketch Plan approval, seconded by
Mr. Dybas. Motion carried unanimously. Public hearing set for
August 3, 1983.
OFF-PREMISES SIGN NO. 20 - Great Escape Camping Resort, Inc. HC-15
west side Route 9 opposite Round Pond Rd.
(Paul Lukaris, property owner)
Mr. Roger Smith present. This is a legal size sign. The Board agrees
with the need for this sign. Mr. Montesi offered motion for apprøval,
seconded by Mrs. Mann. Motion carried unanimously.
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RESOLVED: The Board approves Off Premises Sign No. 20.
The sign is conforming in all respects.
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OLD BUSINESS:
SITE PLAN REVIEW, Type II #7-83 - Alan Mercure
94 Meadowbrook Road
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Mr. George Kurosaka present. Mr. Kurosaka performed perc tests and
hit water at 5 feet,which stabilized at 46" over a 12 hour period.
Mr. Lynn asked that they let it stabilize for 60 days which Mr.
Kurosaka agreed to. An above ground berm system would be required.
In reviewing the application Mr. Lynn said it is for a multi-family
project. There isa duplex on the property, when they added the
third dwelling unit it created a multiple family project which is
allowed in this zone with Site Plan Review. Mr. Kurosaka stated
there is no intent to use the garage unit again as a residence, it
was temporary because the son was living there. Mr. Kurosaka said
the reason for the septic system is because there is a toilet in
the garage and Mr. Mercure is maintaining the garage for his busi-
ness and storage of equipment. Mr. Lynn asked if Mr. Mercure was
changing the residential use to an office. If so, the application
should be for a variancê rather than Site Plan. Mr. Sorlin said
he felt that Mr. Kurosaka's intent is to convince the Board that
a septic system is feasible on this property but now the "waters
are muddy" and we don't know what the applicant wants. Mrs. Mann
offered a motion, seconded by Mr. Dybas to table application for
one month beyond the 45 day limit (tabled from previous month) with
the approval of Mr. Kurosaka. Mr. Sorlin pointed out that original
application does not have Mr. Kurosaka's name on as agent. Mrs.
Mann withdrew her motion. Mr. Noll offered motion to turn down
Site Plan Review #7-83 with the stipulation that Mercure's could
reapply with the same application at no extra cost. Second by
Mr. Montesi, motion carried unanimously.
RESOLVED: The Board disapproved this Site Plan
Review with no restriction on time to
reapply. We did not have enough in-
formation. Not sure whether it is for
commercial or residential use, etc.
NEW BUSINESS:
SITE PLAN REVIEW, TYPE II #8-83 - AMG Industries
53 Luzerne Road
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Mr. Fred Alexy present. Addition of 15,000 sq. ft. to back of
building to be used as an open shed warehouse, ultimately to
be closed in. Purchased 6 additional acres. The old building
is being renovated. Motion for approval by Mrs. Mann, seconded
by Mr. Sorlin. Motion carried unanimously.
RESOLVED: The Board granted approval for this Site
Plan Review as it meets all requirements
set forth and is in keeping with the
character of the area.
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SITE PLAN REVIEW, Type IT #10-83
Wm. C~ist
West SiGle Rt. 9
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Mr. ~rist present. Proposed use - 1 - 1000 gallon propane tank
in a 10' x 22' fenced area. Mr. Bodenweiser has no problem,
regulated by State and Fire Marshal. Mr. Noll asked why front
location instead of side. Mr. Christ said it was for customer access.
Mrs. Mann offered motion for approval, seconded by Mr. Sorlin.
Motion carried unanimously.
RESOLVED: The Board granted approval of this Site
Plan Review Type II with the following
conditions:
That cement posts be installed on each
corner and 5~ ft. apart across the front
to protect tank from cars, plows, etc.
Work with Beautification Committee.
VARIANCE NO. 838 - Edward P. Foy
312 Bay Road
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Mr. Foy present. Patio dining facility addition to an existing
restaurant. The proposed addition will extend into the 50' buffer
zone required by Article 7, section 7.07g.
Mr. Montesi and Mr. Dybas questioned noise from piped music and
effective screening to probect Singleton's. Mr. Foy plans to
have barbecueing on patio on occasion. Mrs. Mann offered motion
for approval, seconded by Mr. Montesi. Motion carried unanimously
with the exception of Mr. Dybas who voted no.
RECOMMENDS: The Planning Board recommend approval
of this variance with the following
stipulations:
1. No music on patio when wake hours are
taking place in funeral home.
2. Must work with Beautification Committee
to establish a screen on north side to
shield funeral home and grass must be planted
on north side.
VARIANCE NO. 839 - William Thomson HC-15
south side Quaker Road east of Glenwood Ave.
No one present. Motion by Mann, second by Noll, no action.
unanimously.
RECOMMENDS: The Planning
did not have
Board needed
Carried
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Board took no action as they
enouçh information. Planning
specific information as follows:
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1. Traffic patterns-where do cars stack in rush
hour and where are driveway cuts.
2. Meeting code for wastewater and what kind of
septic system will be used.
3. Grade of land - it is low now. How close to
Halfway Brook?
VARIANCE NO. 840 - Web Graphics, Inc. HC-15/LI-IA
north side Corinth Road
Mr. D. Newcomb, Exec. Vice President present. Proposed use to
en~arge current manufacturing facility to aocommodate additional
equipment and employees to handle increased sales of present product
line and new stationery product lines, consistent with present
manufacturing process. Mr. Sorlin offered motion for approval,
seconded by Mr. Montesi. Motion carried unanimously.
RECOMMENDS: The Planning Board recommend approval
of this use variance based on the
following:
Smallest portion of expansion is in
Highway Commercial Zone. Largest
part will be in conformance with
Ordinance. It is in keeping with the
character of the area. Building pre-
existed ordinance at its present use.
VARIANCE NO. 841 - David Robinson NC-IO
southwest corner Route 9L and Sunnyside Road
Mr. David Robinson present. Mr. Robert's w:Lllabstain from voting
on this application, Mr. Robinson has worked for Mr. Roberts.
Proposed use for single family dwelling. Mrs. Mann offered motion
for approval, seconded by Mr. Dybas. Motion carried unanimously
with Mr. Roberts abstaining.
RECOMMENDS: The Planning Board recommend approval
based on the following:
Pre-existing lot, large enough to have
well and septic system.
Hardship - we zoned lines to 400 ft. depth
for Nieghborhood Commercial and this rear
lot not good for Neighborhood Commercial
Zone. 20 ft. right-of-way to lot is only
access.
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VARIANCE NO. 842 - Gary D. Bowen
west side Ridge Road
SR-30
Mr. Gary Bowen present. Proposed use, two buildings, one used for
storage, the other for light panelization. Mr. Roberts will abstain
from voting. Mr. Bowen said that according to a recent appraisal,
the property has a value of about $100,000. in a commercial state,
the land has a value of something less than $6,000. The buildings
which are pre-exisbing have no residential valué There would be
light manufacturing done in one of the buildings for panelization,
taking 2x4 studs and nailing plywood on and panelizing components.
This would be an 8:00 - 4:30 p.m. operation, five days a week, Mon.
thru Fri. It would all be done inside building. Mr. Bowen submitted
two letters from neighbors within 500 ft. on same side of road stating
they have no reservations about such use occurring on the land. Mr.
Sorlin said that the pre-existing buildings create a hardship. Mrs.
Mann said she had no problem with the storage but objected to the
manfacturing. Mr. Montesi, noting that some of the neighbors were
there and would have an opportunity to speak at the Zoni~g Board
public hearing, asked Mr. Raymond Buckley (neighbor) if he had any
feelings about this proposal. Mr. Buckley said he had no objection
to the storage building or any use in line with the use that existed
when Mr. Bowen bought the property. He would prefer not to see it
go back to anything leaning more toward commercial and industrial.
Mr. Montesi moved for approval, seconded by Mr. Sorlin. The motion
carried unanimously with the exception of Mrs. Mann voting no and
Mr. Roberts abstaining.
RECOMMENDS: The Planning Board recommend approval of
this use variance based on the following:
Pre-existing buildings do in themselves
create a hardship. They have no value
as a residential area use.
VARIANCE NO. 843 - Marilyn M. Fitzgerald RC-15/SR 30
between Route 149 and Glen Lake Road
Mr. Neil Fitzgerald present. Proposed use to expand mining operation.
Mr. Fitzgerald has filed for a mining permit from EnCon and has a
conservation plan from Warren County Soil and Water. He is presently
losing gravel from the bank regularly. Mr. Montesi offered motion for
approval, seconded by Mr. Montesi. Motion carried unanimously.
RECOMMENDS: The Planning Board recommend approval of
this variance based on the following:
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Expansion of a non-conforming use. 15%
to 45% slopes on part of property would
negate any development plans. State
permits which are required would keep a
handle on mining process and reconstruction
of land after mining.
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VARIANCE NO. 844 - ABC Rentals
southwest corner Quaker & Ridge Roads
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Mr. Keith Coe, owner, present. Construction of building for storage
of rental equipment to protect from weather and theft. Mr. Coe
said his insurance carrier recommended this addition. Mrs. Mann
offered motion for approval, seconded by Mr. Dybas. Motion carried
unanimously.
RECOMMENDS: The Planning Board recommend approval of this
area variance based on the following:
Display of practical difficulty - no room to
move equipment if building is set at prpper
setbacks. Loss of equipment additional
hardship. Applicant will be able to keep
equipment under roof and fence.
VARIANCE NO. 845 - Sweet Road Bakers
corner Route 9 and Sweet Road
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Ms. Ann Jarosz present. To place 40 sq. ft. free-standing sign at
zero setback in lieu of the required 15 ft. setback from property
lines. The State owns 22 feet into parking lot from curb. Becausè
of line of traffic a 15 ft. setback would make the sign an obstruction.
Mr. Montesi said he felt for safety reasons it would be better to have
the sign closer to the road. Mrs. Mann offered motion for approval,
seconded by Mr. Noll. Motion carried unanimously with the exception
of Mr. Montesi and Mr. Sorlin who voted no.
RECOMMENDS: The Planning Board recommend approval of this
sign variance based on the following:
Traffic hazard if placed at proper setback.
This would be the less traffic hazard for
placement of sign. State also has an un-
usually wide right-of-way at this location.
VARIANCE NO. 846 - Robert McDonald
Sherman Island and Corinth Roads
SR-30
Mr. Ray Buckley present. Subdivision lot size 20,000 sq. ft. instead
of 30,000 sq. ft. This is in reference to a subdivision that did
not get filed in a timely fashion and subsequently new ordinance was
passed and put size of lots in nonconformance. Mr. Buckley asked,
if the variance is approved, can the public hearing on the subdivision
be held atinext meeting of Board. Mr. Lynn said he could and asked
Mr. Buckley to check with his office for deadline to file. Mr. Montesi
offered motion for approval, seconded by Mrs. Mann. Motion carried
unanimously.
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RECOMMENDS: The Planning Board recommend approval of
this area variance as there was a pro-
cedural error in the filing of this sub-
division and a zoning change in density
changed lot size.
VARIANCE NO. 847 - William H. Schwab
Bay Parkway, Assembly Point
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Mr. Brian Stewart, Esq. present. Area variance for construction
of 2 bedroom cottage. The problem is that test hole was dug for
proposed leech field and there is a slow absorption rate which
requires that they have 300 feet of tile in leech bed in order to
meet N.Y.S. Health code. They can not meet the 75 ft. setback
requirement. Mr. Sorlin offered motion for approval, seconded by
Mr. Dybas. Motion carried unanimously.
RECOMMENDS: The Planning Board recommend approval
of this area variance. Practical diffi-
culty is that he is meeting all septic
requirements. Home will not be any
nearer the lake than neighbors.
VARIANCE NO. 848 - Gary Finger
Assembly Point Road
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Mr. Dean Howland, Jr. present. Variance for less than required
30 ft. setback on sides of home. The home is already constructed.
Mr. Noll offered motion for approval, seconded by Mr. Dybas.
Motion carried unanimously.
RECOMMENDS: The Planning Board recommend approval of
this area variance. Impractical to remove
part of new home for a matter of l~ feet or
13 inches.
VARIANCE NO. 849 - James DeNooyer
Lockhart Mountain Road
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Mr. Dean Howland, Jr. present. Variance required for addition to
an existing garage on a lot that does not have a permitted principal
building. Mr. Montesi offered motion for approval, seconded by
Mr. Noll. Motion carried unanimously with the exception of Mrs.
Mann who voted no.
RECOMMENDS:
The Planning Board recommend approval of
this use variance based on the following:
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Town issued a building permit for original
garage. This was a mistake. The expansion
seemed proper. Lot size is 22,000 sq. ft.
Only thing we would do by disapproval would
be to have applicant remove expansion of
the building which would create a hardship.