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Queensbury Planning Board
Tuesday, April 15, 1986 8:00 p.m.
Present: R. Roberts, Chairman
K. Sorlin, Secretary
S. Levandowski
J. Dybas
V. Macri
F. DeSantis
M. Dean Staff
R. Case Prime, Esq.
R. Morse, P.E.
Absent: H. Mann
The Minutes of the February 18, 1986 meeting were amended to show that Mr. Macri
was absent and March 18, 1986 Minutes were amended to show T. J. Farone & Son as
Site Plan No. 2-86 (changed from Subdivision 6-85). Minutes approved as amended.
Mr. Roberts welcomed new Planning Board member Frank V. DeSantis, Esq.
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Subdivision No. 1-86 - Van Howe Estates, Section II - 31 lots off Potter Rd. - rnfl'f 2ð! I<\fh
'-- Leon Steves present, requesting final approval. Approvals from Highway Superintendent,
Water Superintendent and Department of Health on file. Mr. Sorlin said that in the
interest of good planning a connection with Stewart Road should be made if possible.
Mr. Steves said lot 43 will remain open for that purpose. Mr. Morse said that drainage
would be through existing culverts in response to question of Mr. Bill Morton, representative
of Queensbury Outdoor Recreation and Environment Association. Mr. Dybas offered
motion for approval, seconded by Mrs. Levandowski. Motion carried unanimously.
RESOL VED: Final Approval granted as applicant has met all requirements
and obtained all permits and fits in with Master Plan. The board feels that
as a matter of good planning the connection to Stewart Road be made if at
all possible.
Subdivision No. 3-86 - Hidden Hills (Woodbury Developer) 155 lots off Sherman Ave
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Public Hearing. Michael Woodbury, Leon Steves, Peter Fitzgerald, Esq. present. Development
projected to span ten years but could be shorter depending on demand. Mr. Roberts
asked if project could be phased, Mr. Fitzgerald responded it would be better for developer
if whole project is approved at once so they know where they will be going in next few
years. He pointed out that Pines subdivision was to span ten years and is sold out after
only three. Mr. Woodbury said that school districts will maintain present lines. Half
of the children will go to Glens Falls, other half to Queensbury school. Mr. Roberts
said they had discussed having another entrance to project from Sherman Ave but it
is not possible because a strip of land is owned by State of New York and is not crossable
and the topography makes it impossible.
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Thomas Brennan, Clark Street resident voiced concern about one entrance to development
with traffic congestion both pedestrian and vehicle and how the influx of more people
would add to the problem. He said impact of traffic from development should be looked
at.
Bill Morton, Queensbury Outdoor Recreation and Environment Association, asked about
drainage plans and how it would affect Halfway Brook. Mr. Steves said drainage pattern
flows toward Northway away from neighborhood and should not cause any problems.
. He said storm water drainage would not be a problem with these soils.
Robert Rosoff, Clark Street resident asked about septic and drainage. Mr. Steves said
there are very sandy soils and there should be no problem with septic. Project will
be on town water supply.
Mr. Roberts said they would set a workshop for Monday, April 28 at 7:30 p.m. to review
SEQRA. Mr. DeSantis asked if applicant had done any traffic studies as to number
of cars that would be entering Dixon and/or Sherman at time of buildout. He would
be interested in that information given the concentration of development that is planned
currently and may be planned in the area. Mr. DeSantis said that would allow the Planning
Board to give input to Town Highway Superintendent. Mr. Fitzgerald said he would
have information relative to traffic flow available at workshop.
Tom Brennan, Clark Street, said Dixon Road is unsafe road, wondered if Town had considered
sidewalks.
Mr. Roberts closed Public Hearing and asked applicant to work with ~c.:wsu/~,
Dick Morse. This application tabled for further information. Workshop scheduled.
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Variance No. 1073 - Hannaford Bros. Co. south side Quaker Road
Robert Stewart, Esq. present. Applicant seeking approval to build a 60,000 sq. foot
combination grocery and drug store at Quaker and Bay Roads. The 9.5 acres of land
the company wants to build on is zoned three different ways; highway commercial,
light industrial and a very small portion single family residential.
Lawrence Plotkin, VP for corporate development, gave some background information
on Hannaford, a Maine based company that has been in business for 100 years. This
will be first store in New York State.
There was lengthy discussion on storm water drainage and traffic control.
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The company plans to install a retention tank on the property just south of Quaker Road
with a controlled release outlet that would permit no more than 10 cubic feet of runoff
per second. They also plan to direct drainage to a 24 inch culvert on Bay Road. The
Board instructe~'tawf1 Engineer Dick Morse to continue his involvement in the review
of the drainage plans. Mr. Morse said he felt the drainage concept is valid but would
still like to see the final design of the proposal.
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The company will bear all costs of traffic improvements, which include a traffic light
at the Quaker Road entrance and exit to the store and widening of Quaker Road for
turning lanes from both directions. Mr. Roberts sugggested moving the Quaker Road
entrance farther west, away from the intersection with Bay Road. Both Mr. Stewart
and Mr. Plotkin said moving the entrance would involve shifting the proposed site of
the store counterclockwise, with the store front facing Quaker Road. Shifting the site
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"-' of the store would detract from the neighboring property, Doyle's, since the loading
docks for the grocery store would abut the adjacent land. It would also lessen the depth
of the parking lot making parking inconvenient for shoppers.
Thomas Perry, a consultant with Greenman-Pederson, Albany, said the proposed traffic
improvements - particularly the light which would be synchronized with the light at
Quaker and Bay Roads - would assure a smooth traffic flow in the area. After hearing
the reasoning behind siting the entrance where it is on Quaker Road, the Board agreed
to let it stand.
The Board also questioned the proposal to prohibit left turns from the store onto Bay
Road, where another entrance and exit is planned. Mr. Perry said the prohibition was
recommended in the interest of safety. The Board and the Company agreed that the
prohibition may be lifted in the future if it is found to be unnecessary.
The Warren County Planning Board recommended approval. Mr. Macri offered motion
to recommend approval to Zoning Board, seconded by Mr. DeSantis. Motion carried
unanimously.
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RESOLVED: The Queensbury Planning Board recommends a6Proval of this
Variance as it is good use of land. Engineering input from. engineer, Dick
Morse, that drainage is being properly handled. Traffic study seems adequate
to control flow on Quaker and Bay Roads as planned. Recommend Dick Morse
continue to be involved with drainage plans until final plans are produced
to his satisfaction.
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NE W BUSINESS:
Site Plan Review No. 7-86 - John Rozell, Jr. Cronin Road
To construct a one-family dwelling in UR 5 zone on property situated at south side
Cronin Road between Bay and Meadowbrook Road.
Public Hearing. Mr. Rozell present. House will be 26x48', 80' back from road and approximately
258 feet from Halfway Brook. Leach field will be in front of house. Board reviewed
Site Plan Review checklist. Warren County approved without comment. Mrs. Levandowski
offered motion for approval, seconded by Mr. Dybas. Motion carried unanimously..
RESOLVED: The Planning Board approve as it fits in with the area without
any negative impact on neighborhood or zone.
Site Plan Review No. 8-86 - David and Melanie Wrye, Lot 30 Fox Road
To construct a single family dwelling in LC 42 acre Zone as required per Article 5,
Section 5.030 and Appendix B of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance on the property situated
at Lot 30 Fox Road off Upper Ridge Road.
Public Hearing. Mr. and Mrs. Wrye present. Warren County Planning Board approved
without comment. Board reviewed Site Plan checklist. Mr. Macri offered motion for
approval, seconded by Mr. DeSantis. Motion carried unanimously.
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RESOLVED: The Planning Board approve this Site Plan as this is a preexisting
lot in a preexisting subdivision. The applicant meets all set back provisions.
Use is consistent with area.
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"'---- Site Plan Review No. 9-86 - Mobil Oil Corporation, Route 9 and Aviation Road
To modernize service station with convenience store in PC 1A zone on property situated
at southwest corner Route 9 and Aviation Road.
Public Hearing. Michael Muller, Esq. and Claire Borios, P.E. present. Warren County
Planning Board approved without comment. Board reviewed Site Plan checklist. Traffic
concerns discussed. Mrs. Levandow~ offered motion for approval, seconded by Mr.
Dybas. Motion carried unanimously.
RESOL VED: The Planning Board approve as retrofit of existing business
for better use of property. Concerns with traffic addressed as much as possible
with provision that exit onto Route 9 be limited to one road cut not to exceed
50 ft. wide located as far south on the property as is practical.
Site Plan Review No. 10-86 - Adirondack Connection (Ellen Kenny/Susan Moody)
To operate a retail store for sale of crafts to local Artisans in HC-15 zone on property
situated at west side Route 9 next to Dexter Shoe Outlet.
Public Hearing. Ellen Kenny, Susan Moody present. Warren County Planning Board
approved without comment. Board reviewed Site Plan checklist. Ms. Kenny will reside
on the premises. Mr. Dybas offered motion for approval, seconded by Mrs. Levandowski.
Motion carried unanimously.
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RESOL VED: The Planning Board approve this Site Plan as the character
of the neighborhood will not change.
Site Plan Review No. 11-86 - William F. Davidson, 197 Sherman Avenue
To operate a professional real estate office incidental to residential use in UR-I0 zone
on property situated at 197 Sherman Avenue.
Public Hearing. Mr. Davidson present. Two sons work for him, one lives in the house.
Mr. DeSantis offered motion for approval, seconded by Mr. Dybas. Motion carried unanimously.
RESOL VED: The Planning Board approve this site plan as it is a home occupation
and as long as members of the Davidson family live there it is acceptable,
but does not pass to other persons who might live there.
These Minutes are amended in the May 20, 1986 Minutes.
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