1986-06-02
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Queensbury Planning Board
Special Meeting
Monday, June 2, 1986
Present: R. Roberts, Chairman
K. Sorlin, Secretary
H. Mann
S. Levandowski
F. DeSantis
Absent: J. Dybas
V. Macri
Dr. Robert Westcott and Charles Scudder, P.E. - Informal discussion of Westcott
property on Bay Road for cluster development of 15 acres zoned UR-5.
Proposal to develop professional office complex on the Bay Road area with
multi family residential on northwest/south.
Con census of those present that proposal for professional offices would
require Use variance. Multì family proposal would be SPR II.
Discussion regarding possible rezoning of north side of Glenwood from Quaker
to Bay and up Bay from Glenwood to/including Singleton Funeral Home.
Dr. Westcott advised to request of Town Board rezoning of this area to HC-15.
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Planning Board favorable toward rezoning to HC-15.
Site Plan Review II - No. 13-86 - Wooden Indian, Inc., east side of Rt 9 north
of Exit 20.
Michael McDonough representing Wooden Indian, Richard Eats, L.A. (Environmental
Design Partnership) present.
Mr. McDonough discussed project proposal of 39,000 sq. ft. of retail clothing
stores (primarily). Building facade staggered so as not to have one long
straight wall front. Rear portion of building two story - vast majority of
parking in rear of building. Major part of building to be "earth tone" with
main entrance facade to have color.
Richard Eats discussed soil borings in relation to septic system, drainage,
and on-site recharge area of stormwater. Minimum of 20% of property
to remain permeable. Application now before DEC for SPDES permit.
Mr. Robert Eddy, Beautification Committee, asked about snow removal.
Mr. McDonough answered that snow to be moved to rear of property and
to retention - recharge area.
Chairman Roberts raised question of "too many parking spaces". McDonough
responded that currently 209 spaces as per Queensbury Ordinance but developer
would be happy to reduce parking lot size based on Phase I and II usage of
retail space.
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Mr. DeSantis questioned actual amount of retail space versus storage space.
Mr. Eats suggested Planning Board give project approval with condition
that 75% of parking spaces be constructed now with other 25% with Ph~se
II.
Quiet discussion about phased-in parking.
Chairman Roberts opened hearing to public. Mr. DeSantis asked as to material
for proposed roof - reason for question being what to happen to heavy snowfall
winter with only 20 ft. side setbacks.
Mr. McDonough explained low pitch roof to rear but would retain snow for
slower melt release.
Lady in audience questioned proximity of building to property line in regard
to water runoff on north property line. Mr. Eats explained stormwater drainage
along property line to rear and to recharge-retention area.
Mr. McDonough also showed overlay revision of north building section to
be pivoted approximately 13 ft. moving northeast corner only, which would
open up pedestrian walkway between building center at rear of building.
Mr. Roberts expressed concern about "green mall" area at edge of Route
9. Mr. Eats explained use of "green islands of Honey locusts" at approximately
25 ft. between Rt. 9 curb and parking lot curb.
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Mr. Sorlin asked for Warren County Planning Board recommendation. It
was read into record stating approval with condition that "the developers
provide a 35-40 ft. ingress and egress road level with Rt. 9 in order to address
the visibility of highway". Short discussion followed with Mr. Eats explaining
that the proposal already is to do as Warren County Planning Board has suggested.
Grade from entrance to front of building approximately 3% in 50 ft. Mr.
DeSantis asked height of building. Mr. McDonough stated 23 ft. at peak
at front. Reason for gabled roof main entrance was to reduce visual mass
appearance of buildings.
Tom Jones asked what to happen with grade change elevation at south property
line. Mr. Eats said that slope would exist but be seeded and planted and
with curbing.
Question asked about lighting of area. Mr. Eats responded that lighting
closest to adjacent property to be at front entrance. Parking lot in rear
will have lighting placed at interior islands, not around exterior perimeter
of lot.
Some concern about all night lighting - parking lot in rear not planned to
be lighted past closing of plaza.
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Mr. Tom McCormack asked about saving vegetation along northeast rear
of property. Mr. Eats explained parking requirements means removal of
trees at northeast corner.
Discussion resumed regarding reduction of parking spaces. Planning Board
would rather minimal spaces. Mr. McDonough offered to maintain 50 ft.
rear line buffer and that Environmental Designs to come back to Planning
Board with "acceptable" number of parking spaces not to exceed 200 probably
in area of 150 to 160 spaces. Public Hearing closed.
Motion by Mrs. Mann, seconded by Mr. DeSantis. Motion carried unanimously.
RESOLVED: Site Plan #13-86 approved with the following conditions:
1. Parking phased according to use of lower levels of building.
2. Actual number of parking spaces to be formulated and approved
by Planning Board at near future meeting.
3. 50 foot natural buffer strip be maintained along rear of property
from northeast to southeast.
4. Any change from "typical dry goods retail sales" would require
further review /approval by Planning Board.
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DISCUSSION
Discussion on duplexes in subdivision and other areas permitted by zoning
ordinance creating really big problem where areas are already single family
dwellings.
RESOL VED to propose amendment to Town Board for further approval:
Take duplex out of all zones where permitted use, except UR-5,
and put under SPR II.
Discussion and agreement to amend "States Avenues" UR-5 to UR-I0.
Meeting adjourned 11:10 p.m.
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R. Roberts, Chairman
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