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1985-01-22 TOWN BOARD MEETING JANUARY 22, 1985 TOWN BOARD MEMBERS MRS. FRANCES WALTER-SUPERVISOR MR. DANIEL OLSON-COUNCILMAN DR. CHARLES EISENHART-COUNCILMAN MR. DANIEL MORRELL-COUNCILMAN MRS. BETTY MONAHAN-COUNCILMAN MR. WILSON MATHIAS-TOWN COUNSEL PRESS: G.F. POST STAR, WWSC, WBZA GUESTS: REPRESENTATIVES OF THE VARIOUS LOCAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS TOWN OFFICIALS: MR. HAROLD LAROSE, MR. PAUL NAYLOR, MR. RICK MISSITA, MR. RALPH VANDUSEN, MR. HAROLD HANSEN, MR. RICK BOLTON MEETING OPENED 7:36 P.M. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN MORRELL PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE SHOWN 7:37 P.M. A Proposed Local Law reducing the amount of exemption by Section 458-a of the Real Property Tax Law Section 1. Pursuant to the authority of paragraph (d) of subdivision 2 of Section 458-a of the Real Proeprty Tax Law, the amount of exemption provided by paragraphs (a), (b), and (c) (a) $9,000. (b) $6,000 (c) $30,000 Section 2. This local law shall take effect immediately upon filing in the Office of the Secretary of State. SUPERVISOR WALTER- The purpose of the law is to grant exemptions to a segment of our population, the veterans. In order to give anyone an exemption it creates a shift in the payment of taxes to another segment of the population and the Town Board has had an analysis done as to the impact of the laws of the State of New York on the local taxpayers. Arriving at the levels of the proposed local law that we are here to discuss tonight, the Board has determined that these levels do give a benefit to the veterans while not hurting other groups. Asked that Mr. LaRose address the issue... HAROLD LAROSE, ASSESSOR- (The following was read by Mr. LaRose) Computed exemption for three varied assessments for war veterans and combat veterans:ASSESSMENT OF $15,000. War Veteran exemption 15% $15,000. x .15 = $21,250.00 Combat Veteran exemption 10% $15,000. x .10 = $1,500.00 Both are below all three equalized maximum - veteran would receive the same exemption under all three options. ASSESSMENT $25,000. War Veteran exemption 15% $25,000. x .15 _ $3,750.00 Combat Veteran exemption 10% $25,000. x .10 = $2,500.00 Both are below options 1 & 2 equalized maximums. Veteran would receive the same exemption under options 1 & Z. Under Option 3 a war veteran would receive an exemption of $1.45/year (1985) less than Options 1 & 2. A combat veteran's exemption would be $.46/year (1985) less than under Options 1&2. ASSESSMENT $40,000. War Veteran exemption 15% $40,000 x .15 = $6,000.00 Combat Veteran exemption 10% $40,000. x .10 = $4,000.00 Both computed exemptions Z exceed the ec+ualizea .:.aximums for all three options. In this case the veteran would receive the equalized maximum under each option. Under Option #1 the veteran would receive the maximum exemption. Under Option #2 The war veteran would receive an exemption of $2.14/year (1985) less than Option #1. The combat veteran would receive an exemption of $1.38/year (1985) less than Option #1 If both, it would be an exemption of $3.52/year (1985) less than Option #1 Under Option #3 The War veteran would receive an exemption of $4.21/year (1985) less than Option #1 The combat veteran would receive an exemption of $2.83/year (1985) less than Option #1 If both it would be an exemption of $7.04/year (1985) less than Option #1. The War veteran would receive an exemption of $2.07/year (1985) less than Option #2 The combat veteran would receive an exemption of $1.45/year (1985) less than Option #2 If both, it would be an exemption of $3.52/year (1985) less than Option #2 (entire text of handout on file) MR. JOSEPH DAIRE - South Queensbury- My property is assessed at $10,400.00 would I be eligible for this? HAROLD LAROSE- Yes. SUPERVISOR WALTER- We are only dealing with the property tax of the Town, which this year is a $1.53 a thousand. The County is a different ball game, we are not the jurisdiction that deals with that. This is set by the State Legislature it does not effect School Taxes, you will pay the full shot nor any special district taxes such as those you pay if you are in a Water District in the Town of Queensbury, a Sewer District, a Drainage Dist. or Lighting Dist. In its wisdom, the State Legislature said this only applies to property taxes, we hardly pay any property tax in the Town of Queensbury, last year it was $2.09 a thousand, this year it dropped to $1.53 a thousand, hopfully next year it will drop some more and you will find you are not getting any particular benefit from this law at all. MR. HEISS- 13 Wincrest Dr.-You are talking in terms of assessment reduction and I appreciate that, but in terms of dollars this is very small. ... SUPERVISOR WALTER- Since we cut the taxes by 23% we are talking about less than $5.00 per year. HAROLD LAROSE- The question we have to address here is what would the long term effect be on the taxpayers, no one knows that. We do not know how many veterans we have in the Town of Queensbury, we have 514 veterans who are receiving benefits under the old system, how many of these people are going to w nt !o stay on that and not change, there will be sore . Some people have it on businesses, some on vacant land, under the new law it must be your primary residence. I like to look at the long look at something, it doesn't make any difference where you go as long as you do not go with the maximum, because you can always raise it. I do not believe that anyone here would like to have such an impact on the tax burden that the Town —� Board would feel that they would have to lower it. MR. HEISS- How many taxpayers in the Town? HAROLD LAROSE- There are 10,600 parcels in the Town. PAUL BAIRD- RD4-With an assessment of 14,600 what would that mean to me? ?7 HAROLD LAROSE- 25% of your assessment is subtracted....a reduction on your assessment of $3,650.00...$4.05 less on your tax bill... MR. SCHUFF- 20 Westland-In your opening remarks you made a statement that research had been done.How many of the 900 plus towns in the State of New York have opted for 1,2, or 3...I am sure that throughout the State of New York there are many towns smaller and larger than the Town of Queensbury and I think I would like to have you explain to us why the Town Board opted for number 2. SUPERVISOR WALTER- First, it does not matter what any other towns are ...how many towns in the State of New York have a tax rate of $1.09, what we did was ask our assessor to do some calculations for us, of what the impact would be on the various rates, the maximum the middle and the lower that we are authorized by the State of New York Legislation and how it would impact on our Town. We are not interested in what is happening in Buffalo and you should not be. You are paying the taxes here and that is what we asked Mr. LaRose to do. We did research, the Town Board agreed that the middle amount would be the amount we would go forward with, with our proposed law. Once you give an exemption to anyone other people have to pick up the burden, so you are not paying $5.00 so that will be split throughout the Town to someone else, maybe someone who is just hanging on to their house, we do have those people also. What we tried to do in setting those amounts was to be able to give the veteran an exemption and it is not any great shakes gentlemen, the State Legislature made you believe that you were going to get some real dollars off your tax bill. They would have done a much better job for you and you might want to take this us with your State Representatives if they had given you some kind of deduction over all for all veterans, not just property owners on their income tax. I would think would be a little more equitable and fair to all veterans of our country. To get back to this, it is a little to you, but what ever you are not paying is going to be shifted for the aggregate amount of everyone not paying that to the rest of the taxpayers who we also have an obligation to. As far as the research is concerned, it was a recommendation as to the impact on the rest of the Town where it would not hurt because most of the veterans were falling within option 1 and 2. Option Number 1 being the maximum amount and Option Number 2 which is what we decided to go with and there would not be much difference at all at this particular time. MR. SCHUFF- How much potential growth has been added in to your projection figures. How far down the road are we looking? SUPERVISOR WALTER- We are trying to look at the long term...10 years. We do know that Queensbury is growing, but we also know that as the Town grows more services are required and our expenses go up. What has been happening over the years is that we had to extend services in the Town and the assessed value is not cutting your taxes back as much, it really ought to be zero with the amount of sales tax we take in. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-This exemption is only benefiting those veterans that own property. Property tax is a very narrow tax base and when we as a Town Board remove any portion of a tax burden from one segment we must place it �8 on another. This is a question that I am going to ask everyone of you gentlemen and ladies. Mr. LaRose has stated that lowering the maximum from 12,000 to 9,000 would only effect those veterans who have a house with a market value of $80,000. are you willing to take that burden from someone who can afford an $80,000. house and place it on someone who has a fixed income or a young mother who has no husband to help, who is trying to keep a home for herself and her children...this is what you are asking and you might as well realize it, or a family who is trying to maintain a home with a low market value and have one or two incomes at the minimum wage rate and can afford housing at an assessment of $4 or $5 thousand dollars.You ! might as well realize and not kid yourself of what you are asking. If this is what you want to do admit it, but this is the question you are going to be asked. Are you willing to shift this burden on to these people in the Town of Queensbury, everybody in the Town? (Vocal Crowd Response) Let the record note it please... My husband is also a veteran, who had overseas service and was out of this country for several years. FLOYD PICKETT- I would like to ask the Town Board, you are always thinking about taxes hurting someplace else, what does the Town Board think about raising their wages? They raise their wages but they do not think about the taxpayers there but they want to take it away from veterans. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- Mr. Pickett, we are not taking it away from most veterans, because most veterans will have an assessed valuation that will put their market value under $80,000. The only ones we are asking for a little consideration are the ones that have a market value over $80,000. You are not going to be effected. We are asking that you guys are willing to share some of this benefit and the only ones that are going to have to share it are the ones with a house of a market value of over $80,000. This is what I do not think you realize. DAVID REICHENBACH- Gurney Lane-We are still first class citizens and we are first class vets, because someone goes out and has a little bit better job and better property I am not condemning him, he should get the same as I get and maybe more. UNKNOWN- Sunset Drive-Does this change the exemption that we already have, and if it does do we have to go through a new process? HAROLD LAROSE- If you desire, you can leave it as you now have it and you may change at any time you desire but you cannot change back to eligible funds unless you move to another municipality that did not accept this new law? UNKNOWN- What if our present exemtion is greater than the law you will pass? HAROLD LAROSE- Then you can stay with what you have. UNKNOWN- And it will not be limited to the ten years? j SUPERVISOR WALTER- It is called the grandfathered clause... JOSEPH FIORE- Arberger Drive-1 wear several hats for this evening I am a service officer for the Queensbury VFW, also for G.F. Post 233 American Legion, The Warren County Post of the American Legion that represents five towns that have legion posts, and also the Memorial Detatchment of the Marine Corp. League-As your assessor and you 29 have stated that your long range plans are for ten years, I hope you realize that this law finishes in ten .years at the same time, so that anyone that takes this new law looks at losing it in ten years, keep that in mind when you vote. I would like to say to you Mrs. Monahan, you are going to ask me a question, then I am going to have to ask the Town Board a question. When this Town Board votes, whether you vote yes or no, I would like to see you make a statement why. We already know your statement because you have already stated it. My statement is that the Queensbury Town Board has had the material concerning Veterans tax exemption since last September, certainly four months is sufficient time to afford us due process. Here we are nine days before the mandated deadline concerning this legislation. Many maximum levels of exemption have been thrown out. The only figures we should consider are the State Law Figures of $12,000. for war veteran, $8,000. for duty in a combat zone and $40,000. for disability. These are the maximum. They must be lowered by the latest equalization rate. For this purpose I will use the equalization of 50% which is higher than the Queensbury rate. With a 50% rate immediately lowers our maximum rate to $6,000. for war veterans $4,000. for duty in a combat zone and $20,000. for disabled veterans I am still dealing with State mandates. I used the reduced maximum with $9,000. $6,000. and $30,000. the maximum goes to $4,500. $3,000. and $15,000. and if you use the $6,000. $4,000. and $20,000 reduced maximum the figures go to $3,000. $2,000. and 10,000. When our friends and neighbors selected us for military service there were no reduced service provisions.Some of us had better duty than others and most of us endured the emptyness of the seperation from our families. Those who were more fortunate should not think in personal terms but of the majority of rank and file servicemen. How do you put a monitary value on the time we spent away from home? How do you measure the hardships of military life and sacrifice of family life this shrinkage of job opportunity, the delayed education and career ladders. The State put a value of military service for WWII veterans with a bonus a veteran with five years service got 134 a day if he went overseas and 8¢ a day if he did not. The Korean and VietNam Veterans did not get anything. Perhaps the State is making amends with this exemption law, which you are considering lowering. The elderly get a tax break, a tax exemption from 20-50% which we support. The Elderly income limitation for tax exemption seems to be raised regularly by the State and Local Governments seem to rush to keep up with the state maximum. We are only asking for the same consideration from our Local Governments. We too would like the maximum allowed under the State Law, all we ask that our friends and neighbors give us the same treatment now as they did when they sent us away to give our maximum. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- Are you willing for the poor people in the Town of Queensbury to take over part of the veterans benefits, - the burden that the veterans with an $80,000. house are going to not have when shifted to the poor people? MR. FIORE- I would have to say yes, how many people in the Town of Queensbury own an $80,000. house and how many are veterans? COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-This is what I am saying. This only effect veterans of $80,000. If the State really wanted to make amends to veterans, why did they not take it off State Tax that would help all veterans, why did they bring this on local property taxes. Why aren't you people down �o in Albany lobbying for an exemption from your State Income Tax that would effect all veterans and not just some? MR. FIORE- You asked a question why don't we lobby down there, we do. We have been after a State bonus for the Korean Veterans, since the end of the Korean War. We have lobbied. We have a list through the Veterans Committee of the Legislature, every year it is put in and every year it is turned down. ...They do not want to listen to us no more than they want to listen to Supervisor Walter when she goes down and askes for a re-imbursement for the Town......I made some comparison examples, there are only two figures that we should consider, the maximum level, the exemption made by law or R; the percentage of the assessed valuation allowed by law if it is less than the maximum. A veteran gets 15% of the asssessed valuation plus 10%...25% is the assumed for the three examples I would like to give you. The State maximum of $12,000. for war service, $8,000. for combat with a 50% equalization rate these maximums become $6,000. $4,000. and $10,000. exemption, because of the equalization rate. For property assessed at $60,000. at 25% exemption rate the exemption would be $15,000. which is over the maximum ....allowed by law so the veteran would get ten which is the lowest. The property assessed at $30,000. with 25% exemption rate the exemption would be $7,500. which is less than the maximum of $10,000. which is allowed by law, so the veteran would get $7,500. exemption. For a property assessed at $15,000. at 25% exemption rate the exemption would be $3,750. which is less than the maximum $10,000. allowed by law so the veteran would get $3,750. exemption. Those are my calculations on comparing the full assessment against the 50% ... MR. PISCITELLI- I represent the American Legion Council 233 of Glens Falls-Dear Mrs. Walter and Members of the Town Council, The Glens Falls Post Number 233 of the American Legion met on January 16, 1985 at its headquarters, 48 Warren St. Glens Falls, N.Y. Post Number 233 has a membership of 540 people and 145 live in the Town of Queensbury. It is on their behalf that that following resolution was presented and unamimously passed by the membership. Request that the Town Board of Queensbury to enact the new veterans tax exemption law which was passed by the State Legislature and signed into law by Governor Cuomo as was written. Respectfully submitted to the public hearing at the Town Hall, Bay Road, Glens Falls, N.Y. January 22, 1985. Sincerely, Joseph McGuirk, Commander MR. FORREST ROBINSON- 40 Homestead Village-I am representing the VFW Post 6196 in Queensbury-Dear Mrs. Walter and Members of the Town Council-On Monday, January 21, 1985 the VFW Post 6196 of the Town of Queensbury held its regular monthly meeting at 32 Luzerne Road, Town of Queensbury. The following resolution was presented to the membership and passed unamimously. Request that the Town Board of Queensbury to enact the new veterans tax exemption law that was passed by the New York State Legislature and signed into law by Governor Cuomo as it is written. The majority of our members live and work in the Town of Queensbury, --` your consideration for this request would be greatly appreciated by our entire membership. Very truly, Melvin Welch, Commander I would like to speak to you on my own...I am a veteran, I am a VietNam War Veteran, I went there freely, of my own free will because my country needed me. I did not ask why, I went and I served, when I came 31 back I sat down with my father and discussed it. He told me about all the things that happened to him at the end of the WWII and all the benefits he got, I turned around a looked and said where are mine? When I got into the veterans organizations, the American Legion and VFW I began to realize the fact that the veteran has become a second class citizen and it is continuing to be so. What we have here is not a real lot of money, but we are talking about a matter of principle. You take this from the veteran this year and tell him next year maybe we will give it back. Once you take it away it is gone forever. I have yet to see them raise an exemption, never. I defy any here to go back and find somewhere, where you raise an exemption, it is always being taken away. In answer to your question (Mrs. Monahan) the answer is yes, divided among the others. I served and plenty of people in this room served so that their sons and daughters would not have to and we are proud of it. Thank you. SUPERVISOR WALTER- We have raised the exemption for the Senior Citizens over the years. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-At the same time we have lowered the tax rate for all the citizens of the Town of Queensbury, that is what is the most important thing for you people. MR. OLSHAK- 9 Second St.-U.S. Army retired-I have 23 years active Army service I wear four hats, American Legion Hat, Army retiree hat and most of all a private citizen. We ask you to put any personal judgements or decisions that you have made prior to this hearing. The first thought I wish to express ...you are here because I have elected you. When I first joined the Army in 1956 they gave me a manual the first page told me, You are a soldier...You will not find a typical American Soldier in height, weight or color wise, hair, family origon, education, wealth, intelligence or similiar characteristics. The Soldiers you have met and will meet are from all walks of life and all parts of our Country but all of you have two things in common. You are all serving the United States of America and believe in the principles that make it a free Country. This not only gives you a common bond as fellow soldiers but also guarantees him the same chances as the next man to get ahead. The American tradition is cherished in your Army as it is in all phases of American Life. Second the responsibility of all Americans is outstanding in the World today, the spirit of team work instilled in your homes, school, church at work and play ...cooperation added for you to meet any and all tasks...quoting page 9, I got $78.00 per month and I paid Federal Income Taxes of $2.83 and I paid Town Taxes of $44.00 Now my County taxes are $149.00 ....I believe in the United States of America as a Government of the People By the People and For the People. Whose just powers are derived by the consent of the governed. Democracy and a Republic a Sovern Nation of many sovern States, a perfect Union one inseperable established upon these principals of freedom, equality, justice and humanity through which American Patriots sacrificed their lives. I believe it is my duty to my Country to love it and support its constitution and obey its laws, to respect it's flag and defend it against all enemies. Members - of the Board, I lost many buddies... MR. EWARD BANTA - Cronin Road- American Legion -The American Legion of the State of New York is pleased that the Veterans Real Property Tax Bill was passed in the Legislature and the Governor recognized the inequity that the Korean and VietNam Veterans had experienced. We are disappointed with the absence of funding however, 32 improvements will be encouraged and pursued by the American Legion, We urge Veterans to attend their legislative meeting and urge legislators to support passage real property exemption law. I answered your question earlier on the phone (Mrs. Monahan) again I will say yes. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Don't forget that this is only going to effect that part of the assessment that is over $2500 and anything over that assessment would be affected and that burden would be shared by some of the poor people in the Town. We also have to think of the people who cannot bear this burden quite so well. MR. BANTA- The small amount of money that you have brought to light, that this actually amounts to will not pose a problem to anyone, because we do not know how many veterans who will take advantage of this, it is supposition on your part. The small amount of dollars you are telling us, when that is spread over the amount of residences in the Town of Queensbury it will not change it enough to hurt anything, that is my opinion. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-If it is a small amount of dollars as far as our poor people are concerned, why is it so important? MR. BANTA- It is spread over everyone, rich, poor and everyone. It is a small amount of money, that is why I say, yes it should be, the idea is we lobbied for this and as the American Legion State of New York said it was an inequity as far as a lot of veterans, we are trying to rectify this, we are only asking for what the state said us veterans should have, that is all we are asking for. SUPERVISOR WALTER- It is nice for the State to say that since it is not anything out of their pockets...what the State is saying to the local communities, we think the veterans deserve something, now local community you do something... MR. BANTA But they did and now we are asking you as people that have supported you in the past when you wanted to sit where you are now, we are asking you to support us on this small amount of money that we feel due US. MR. THOMAS HAMMOND- VietNam Veteran, Upper Sherman Ave.-The only people that are here that seem to be against this is the Board, where are these poor people? They had a chance to show up tonight to. Like you have said, it is so little for us. When we first started this meeting we said the Pledge of Allegiance. If it was not for a lot of these Gentlemen here there would be a swastika or rising sun over there. We deserve a little bit, I am sorry that it had to come down to this local level but I think that if we all band together we can go to the State Level but right now this is all we have, I hate to have someone make me feel that I am taking out of someones elses mouth. MR. JOSEPH WHALEN- 198 Aviation Road-Dear Mrs. Walter and Members At our Regular monthly meeting of the Warren County Voitures 1186 of Lake George American Legion Home, on Monday night January 14, 1985 the following resolution ._.t was presented to the members and unanimously passed that the Town Board of Queensbury is requested that the new Veterans Tax Exemption Law which was passed by the New York State Legislature and signed into law by Governor Cuomo on August 18, 1984 be implemented in the Town of Queensbury as it was written. Many of our members live in the Town of Queensbury, having served honorably in all the branches of the United 33 State Military Service in WWII, Korea and VietNam. We request fair treatment by the Town of Queensbury Officials. Thank you very much. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Since we are only discussing what would effect assessments over $28,500. , do you believe that portion should be shifted to the poor people in the Town of Queensbury? MR. WHALEN- For one thing I do believe it should. Not only that you are saying just strictly the poor people... COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I am saying part of it. MR. WHALEN- I imagine somewhere in the Town of Queensbury there are people who went to Canada who went somewhere else and did not go to VietNam or Korea or WWII who are still on our tax rolls here and they are paying the same amount of taxes that I am, so therefore I will say yes. MR. ONEIL BROWN- 10 NewPine Street-I have lived in the Town of Queensbury since the end of the war, but I have seen the Town grow and I have never yet seen a tax reduction...I waited for thirtysix years and two years ago I put in for an exemption... MRS. PAT JAMESON- 293 Ridge Road-I am a veteran, when I came in tonight and sat down somebody came over to me and said oh, are you here to take notes? Later the Supervisor said Gentlemen, there are some lady veterans, by marrying a veteran, I lost my exemption because you can only have one on a piece of property. ...before the holidays at the home of a military family this sailor came in he had a bag of grogeries on the bag it said Navy wife the toughest job in the world, I just want to say if you do not think these veterans are worth a 100% don't you think their wives are worth the difference to make it a 100%. I watched the inaugural parade in 1953 in Washington on Pennsylvania Avenue on a cold day and yesterday I was planning to watch it on TV but the parade was canceled. I did listen to the President speech and at the end of his speech he said, and I think it applies here tonight, "we have come to a time of hard decision, it is time to ask if not for us, who, if not now, when" Thank you. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think Mrs. Jameson, just now brought out, how the laws of this country discriminate against women, why should she lose her veterans exemption, that family should have two. MR. THOMAS QUINN- Carlton Drive-Just listening to this business tonight, from what I understand we are talking about pennies, they are not giving us a real steal they are giving us something. Mr. LaRose is worried about the future. He does not know how many people this will effect five or six or maybe one or two years later or something like that. He does not have all the facts...Mrs. Monahan is worried about the poor people. How much would the amount effect the poor people if we got the 1001/6. Do you have any facts on that? COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Again I want to reverse and ask how many veterans... — MR. THOMAS QUINN- You are worried about the poor people, if we get the 100%, what is it going to cost these poor people? COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-When you do not have much money...shifting the tax burden on people who can least afford it... MR. THOMAS QUINN- The poor people are effected by raises, expenses of all of the Town. This exemption is just a little bit. 34 COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Again, I think it is a matter of principle. We are shifting it on to the people who can least afford it, which is happening too much in this country. MR. THOMAS QUINN- I think that you are overly concerned about the amount you are talking about... COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-In dollars and cents you are probably right, but it is also shifting... MR. THOMAS QUINN- You want to be different, is that it, you want to just say well we are not going to give them this we will give them a little bit of it and maybe they will be happy and later on when Mr. LaRose finds out that there will not be that many people involved, then we will give them this. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The majority of veterans will end up with all the exemptions that they are entitled to. If when we see how this actually operates, we do have the option of raising this exemption. We have done this for the senior citizens after we had done our research and homework on it, we have done it twice since I have been here. ...Since we have raised the Senior Citizens, why do you feel that once this goes through and we find out how it works that if it is not disadvantageous to the other taxpayers of the Town, why do you feel we will not raise you to the full amount? MR. THOMAS QUINN- Listening to you, I would be very doubtful. MR. FLOYD PICKETT- What did the Town Board think when they raised their salary? SUPERVISOR WALTER- This is something that we are constantly hit with, we do spend our time here and that is more than the rest of you have except for this issue. I work at it full time and it is a job. It is not germain to the issue, it has not effected you only to tell you that your taxes have gone down if our salaries have gone up, however minimal the percentage. Do you wish to have your elected people work for nothing. I will tell you that the pool of people who wish to run for office is getting smaller and smaller because Gentlemen, if you think you are second class citizens, I would like to have you tell me what you think elected officials are. MR. FLOYD PICKETT- I have called up for Mrs. Fran Walter she is not here, I do not know how many times I called and asked for Mrs. Walter... SUPERVISOR WALTER- Mr. Pickett, I would like to have you tell me when you called, we have a log, I have not heard from you since three months ago when you had a dog issue and the DCO arrived at your steps. You are right Gentlemen and Ladies I am not here a lot. I divide my time between the County and the Town. I do not think that, that is the issue here this evening. If you wish to take that up with me or any of the members of the Board ._. at another time I would be most happy to entertain you... MR. BILL TORAN- Chestnut Ridge-I moved into Queensbury eleven years ago, after serving in the United State Navy for thirty --� one years in all three wars WWII, Korea and VietNam. I asked what the advantages were if you were a veteran, I got the full exemption based on the bonus payments on my insurance and pension. I got the full exemption but I never got the benefits because that year you changed the assessment rate three times to what I expected to believe what it was. My full exemption 3 5 at that time would have been a significant savings for this veteran. When you changed the assessment you did not porportionally change my exemption. The poor people got the benefit from my loss. I do not think it is the poor people but all the taxpayers. I think it is a shame that these United States this community, this town cannot acknowledge our VietNam Veterans. You have talked about the hardships of war, things we gave up, I never thought about that throughout my service. I went voluntarily, I enjoyed it, I would do it again if I could. I think it is a shame that VietNam Veterans cannot get this token acknowledgement, it is not a monetary thing, it is a token, we should be proud to acknowledge all of our VietNam Veterans. There are a lot of things that we pay for in our taxes, lets take a good hard look at the causes that we are going to be asked to fund, especially the Cultural Center. I am dead set against that, no one will ask me if I want to pick that up...Here you have a meeting tonight for people to make themselves heard ...you have made up your mind before you came in here. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-If you are so concerned over the Cultural Center and I think you should be, have you attended a meeting of the County Board of Supervisors and spoke your piece? MR. MIKE PADARO- Sunset Drive-In the same way that you are entitled to your raise it is a matter of principal that you do a good job, you spend a lot of time at it, you think that you deserve it, everyone here thinks that they deserve the same. It is a matter of principle. The right to get their 100%. Mrs. Monahan was talking about that we are going to take money away from the poor people, I ask how much? I think that the question was raised how much in real numbers, it only applies to the people with the $80,000. home and up. I think I heard someone say 1000 veterans total in the Town of Queensbury. Of that 1000 how many have an $80,000. home? Fifty a Hundred an extra $2.00 they will save an extra $200. that the entire ten thousand taxpayers will have to absorb what is that 2¢/5it the poor will have to pay. Is the real concern about the long term effect, the change in the rate, what happened if we go to full assessment five years from now. Will this $10,000 or $12,000. maximum then cut in half, and our savings instead of being $5.00 is now $2.50? If your dollar amount stays but the percentage, if they have a maximum limit to it and the equalization rate goes up, does that cut our benefits down? HAROLD LAROSE- ...increases closer to 100% then your exemption increases at the same time... MIKE PADARO- What if the rate goes up to 100% and the average that was quoted was $22500. goes to $40,000/$50,000. average but the cap is $30,000. now you have homes higher than the ceiling, who is losing then? HAROLD LAROSE- Eventually if the Town gets to 100% one cannot predict what the effect the exemptions would be at that time, ...right now the difference between Option 1 and Option 2, to 95% of the people in the room it would make no difference which way we go you will get the same benefits, however down the road if we go to 100%, what effect will that have on the tax burden in the Town, I do not know. MIKE PADARO- This law is only in effect ten years, if five years from now you go to 100% and change what everyone else is getting we have lost out for five years, unless it is retro-active. Unless you have an $80,000. home...you 36 are still not taking about a lot of money it is the principle. You folks deserve a raise because you are doing a good job, the principle is there, you deserve the money.You think you are putting in the time, everyone here put in time to. It is the principle of the thing, you are talking about pennies, why make such a big deal about pennies. SUPERVISOR WALTER- With the State passing the legislation, with the Town Board taking a look at it, one of the things that we have considered, and we have already started is the re-valuation of the Town. We are going ahead to go onto a computer system where our equalization rate can be brought up. Had we had a revaluation a year or so ago we would have had a better indication of just where we are going. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- When we go to 100% valuation the rate will go down. Don't think that you will take 100% valuation and mutiply times the rate you are doing today. If it does, the Town is doing something very wrong. Your rate should be going down, hopefully with the revaluation the people that are under assessed and there are a lot of them, will be paying their fair share and the people that are over assessed will have their burden decreased. MIKE PADARO- When will that take effect? HAROLD LAROSE- Taxable status day 1987• MIKE PADARO- In the meantime for a few cents you are making a big deal over a few people that are not going to get it. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-What we are saying is, we have no idea what effect this will have when we go to 100%, it might have a very detrimental effect when we go to 100% valuation, we can alway raise this... i MIKE PADARO- You are still talking about a few people that are over the $80,000. and it is going to be the same number of people, then the rate will be lower. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-But there will be more people with a higher valuation. Asked Mr. LaRose to explain what will happen to those veterans that also have an over 65 exemption... HAROLD LAROSE- You will still receive both exemptions under the new law... MR. CLIFF HARTMAN- West Mountain Road- I moved to Queensbury in 1956. I would like to see the VietNam and Korean veterans brought somewhere into alignment. They deserve every bit that the State gave them ...plus a lot more that the State should give them. I am dissolusioned with the Board when I here minute figures... SUPERVISOR WALTER- The Board has not taken any action at all, you have the prerogative to state whether you think the proposed law is a good one or is not. It is overwhelmingly the opinion of the people in the room that this law is not what you would hope that the Town of Queensbury would do. The Board is listening to you this evening, do not be dissolusioned until they take a vote. -- MR. CLIFF HARTMAN- They have already stated that they opted for Option 2, all the statements are in alignment with Option 2. Number one is the opitamy. SUPERVISOR WALTER- That is what the State said should be number I...this is what was said. We are giving you the option depending J� on how you will think it will go in your community to do Option 2 or 3. COUNCILMAN MORRELL- Mr. Hartman, I have been sitting here trying to get all the input so that I can feel that I can make a jus decision. I talked last night to Mr. Fiore and told him that I am going to keep an open mind. That is one of the reasons that I have been sitting back here and not saying a word, I do not like to be pre-judged, criticize me if you disagree with me after the thing is all over but until then allow me the opportunity to listen to all these fine people out here give their input that I as one of the five people who are going to make the decision on this can make a just decision. MR. HARTMAN- I have not personnally judged you or anyone. All I know is the responses...I am asking you when you vote to give these Korean Veterans and VietNam Veterans and any other Veterans the maximum that the State will allow regardless of how small it is. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- What I have been trying to get over, that when we take a tax off from one segment of the population we have to put it on another, that is the point I have been trying to make and I want you Gentlemen and Ladies to realize this. MR. FORREST ROBINSON- I am appreciative of the fact that we have a chance to speak in an open forum and that the Board is in a receptive mood, that they are not coming here with pre-conceived decisions. Rather than get up on a soap box and say about all the veterans did this and how they did that, it is a matter of principle, we are talking not a lot of dollars and the other communities are watching Queensbury and taking a look at what is going on up here. They are taking a look at what the veterans are doing and how the Town Board will react. Questioned what Glens Falls did? (100%) I rest my case... MR. THOMAS QUINN- Mrs. Monahan, would you please tell us how this effects the poor people? COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think that the greatest problem we have right now is that we do not know how this will effect when we go to revaluation. Is it better to go with $9,000. now and $12,000. after we revaluate? MR. THOMAS QUINN- $12,000. now. The way you sound we are really taking the money away from the poor people, and we are only taking about pennies. MR. HEISS- Mrs. Monahan, I appreciate where you are coming from, as a practical matter the taxes are spread proportionaly by high assessed lot and low assessed lots and commercial assessed property...you make it sound like the few cents that the veterans are going to get are going to be thrown onto the poor people's back, it will be thrown onto the entire town tax base, porportionate to what they are paying at this time. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-This is actually going to be spead throughout the Town, but we are also talking again about a matter of principle because when we shift it is going to all the segments but there is one segment that we are bringing out, that maybe cannot afford it. MR. HEISS- If a poor person is paying a $10.00 tax they might pay a $10.10 tax. A person that is paying a $100,000. tax might might pay $100,001. it is prorata. You are not going to see any great shift one way or the other. I do not have an $80,000. valuation but the fellow that does and was in combat had the same chances of dying then the guy with a three cent pup tent today. The bottom line is the fellow took the same chance, if you were talking 20%/30% of the persons taxes I would listen to you all night, you are the difference between $19.00 and $15.00 it is a joke. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We are right now. We don't know what will be down the road. MR. BAIRD- This small amount of tax, I do not know if I want to bother with it anymore, I thought when I came up here I was going to get a lot off my back now I have nothing, 1 do not think that the poor people should be brought into this either...I am sure you will do the right thing which ever way it goes. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- When you actually saw the amount that would be taken off your taxes, did this surprise you, did you think it would be a lot more than that? (no, voiced throughout the audience) I respect the veterans for everthing they have done, I am the first one to salute our Flag to cry at the National Anthem, so do not missunderstand where I am coming from. MR. FIORE- I got a call from Mayor Bartholomew ...The American Legion went to the Council meeting last week and we disputed the figures the assessor had throughout on the floor and when he got back from Washington he talked to Mayor Jones in Saratoga and he said if those figures were right you got to have a lot of veterans in the City. I think someone made a mistake. He stated that for two days they have been working on it and they have come up with new figures that are in line...I will poll the council by phone and he did. The only one he could not reach was Mary Coffey...He called me at 4:00 and stated that the Council, by phone, had voted for the City to adopt the full shot... HAROLD LAROSE- At the present time in the Town of Queensbury we have 514 veterans getting exemptions the amount of the assessments effected $1,182,582. this computes to a tax loss today of $1,809.34, this is under the old law....Mr. Fiore tells me in Warren Co. there are over 7,000 veterans probably we got 2,000 in the Town of Queensbury, they are not all property owners I am sure. MR. FIORE- ...I would say there are 1100 veterans living in the Town of Queensbury but not all property owners. JOSEPH DAIRE- Questioned if Warren County was going to give the exemption? SUPERVISOR WALTER- I believe Warren Co. will be giving the exemption. MR. FIORE- Warren County like the City of Glens Falls did not do anything with the law so it becomes effective the 1st. of February at the full shot. SUPERVISOR WALTER- I sit on the Warren County Tax Committee and quite frankly it was not even discussed. MRS. JAMESON - I am one of a five member Board Selective Service ^-f Board of Appeals Draft Board and hopefully it will never be activated again, with luck it will not be and we will never have any more war veterans, there will just be veterans. The eighteen year olds, the boys in highschool now read the paper...and I am sure they are the ones that are ready to register for the draft. By reading the papers and looking to see what their town is doing for them, that they should ever go to war. I would just like to finish with what I asked before, if not us, who, if not now, when. COUNCILMAN EISENHARTI do not know whether it is appropriate or not but I did my homework. I hope on the tax base of my own I am one of the fortunate people because the taxpayers in the State of New York supported me very handsomely at the College for many years. I have one the houses that runs over the $80,000. level and what I found out if my figures are correct, I found that if we took option 2 instead of option 1 as the town law proposal is, it would cost me 88� less. By going to option 2. my tax would come down from $643.55 down 884t it is not a large amount. COUNCILMAN OLSON- I have been quiet this evening to listen to the comments and ideas from the veterans that are out this evening, I want to thank you for coming out and appreciate your comments and ideas, I am a veteran also. Because of my age I was fortunate to serve as a peace time veteran but I still volunteered and was there. In the discussions that have been in the local papers and radio and advertisements I have just received one call, one person in opposition to any plan, they thought we should not give any exemption. I have had several calls and letters and calls at work, I appreciate their interest. The one call I did get, was from a veteran he was a disabled veteran he did tell me he was getting 100% disability he felt that as long as the government was taking care of him that he was not entitled to any other exemption. That was the only call in opposition. We are talking about a small amount of money but I think it is not the money but the fact that you people want us to remember you and you want our support...it is difficult in the Town of Queensbury as the Supervisor pointed out with our low tax rate you do not recover very much money, you are not going to see a great reduction. In some towns or the City of Glens Falls where you have a higher tax rate it will amount to a more sufficient amount. Over and above the amount of money we are talking about I think it is the fact that we would recognize the veterans and give you the support you are asking for. I thank you for your comments and it helps me make my decision, because I have not decided in my own mind what my exact feelings are. COUNCILMAN MORRELL- I want to echo a little bit what Dan said, Dan being a veteran but by the time of birth he happens to be the exclusions I am sorry that this exemption could not be to all veterans. I also feel with the increased growth of this town I do not feel that the maximum exemption would have any adverse effect on the revenue of this town. I think it will be more than gobbled up by the growth. I also want to add I have the highest respect for all of you who gave the full measure of devotion of duty to your County, when you served or where you served so that Democracy has been preserved and because of that we are able to have this local community, and I think it is only fitting and proper that those that enjoy these freedoms should be able to make a small sacrifice for you who so nobly served. MR. FLOYD PICKETT- We have had quite a growth in business in the Town of Queensbury, will this hurt that, why can't the growth of business take care of the tax burden? SUPERVISOR WALTER- They do pick up their share...Asked for further comments hearing none the Public Hearing was Closed: 9:30 P.M. 40 Short Recess - Reopened 9:40 P.M. RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION TO APPROVE MINUTES RESOLUTION NO. 28, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell: RESOLVED, that the Town Board Minutes of January 8th and 14th, 1985 be and hereby is approved. Duly adopted by the following vote: j Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter Noes: None Absent: None Abstain: Mrs. Monahan on meeting of the January 14, 1985 RESOLUTION TO APPROVE BINGO LICENSE RESOLUTION NO. 29, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mrs. Betty Monahan: RESOLVED, that Bingo License No. 17045 be and hereby is approved allowing West Glens Falls Volunteer Fire Co. to hold Bingo occasions from January 26, 1985 through April 27, 1985 and be it further RESOLVED, that this includes three Sunday Bingo Occasions. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter i Noes: Dr. Eisenhart Absent: None RESOLUTION TO REJECT ALL BIDS FOR GURNEY LANE SWIMMING POOL RESOLUTION NO. 30, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption, seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart: WHEREAS, after due publication and advertisement on December 12, 1984, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury opened bids for the Gurney Lane Swimming Pool, and WHEREAS, the apparent low bid was greater than the estimated cost of the project, and WHEREAS, the bid specifications and the General Municipal Law expressly permit the Town Board to reject all bids, and WHEREAS, it appears to be in the best interest of the taxpayers and residents of the Town of Queensbury to reject all bids, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby rejects all bids for the Gurney Lane Swimming Pool. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter Noes: None Absent: None 41 COUNCILMAN OLSON- I think it is very clearly stated in the resolution the reasons that it is coming up for a vote this evening, the forty-five days are just about up, it is very clear that the bids came in I feel so much over what the estimates were from our engineer. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It was a great percentage, we could have lived with a small percentage... SUPERVISOR WALTER- I believe that the Town Board will be having on -going discussions as to how to proceed with the Gurney Lane Project. COUNCILMAN MORRELL- Suggested that the next time this project is bid that the bids be also advertised outside this area... RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF INTERMUNICIPAL AGREEMENT FOR SNOW AND ICE CONTROL IN THE PILOT KNOB AREA RESOLUTION NO. 31, Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mrs. Betty Monahan: WHEREAS, by Resolution No. 274 of 1984, duly adopted by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury on November 27, 1984, the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury was authorized to execute a special contract for snow and ice control in the Pilot Knob area, and WHEREAS, at the request of the Warren County Attorney the aforesaid contract has been amended, and WHEREAS, the proposed amendments have been reviewed by Wilson S. Mathias, Counsel to the Town Board, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury is hereby authorized to execute the intermunicipal agreement for snow and ice control in the Pilot Knob area, a copy of which is annexed hereto, and IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED, that any work performed within Washington County and the Town of Fort Ann, pursuant to the special contract for snow and ice control in the Pilot Knob area, is hereby ratified and confirmed, with the understanding that compensation for such work shall be made in accordance with the prior special contract for snow and ice control in the Pilot Knob area. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter Noes: None Absent:None SUPERVISOR WALTER- This will reflect the new rates that came into effect after the first resolution... RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CONSENT OF TOWN BOARD AND TOWN HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT TO THE FORMATION OF TOP O' THE WORLD WATER CO., INC. RESOLUTION NO. 32, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Morrell who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mrs. Betty Monahan: (Text read by Clerk) Page 47 DISCUSSION HELD: TN COUNSEL MATHIAS- Because of the nature of the Top O' The World Development because there will be a great deal of common property, common ownership in a variety of facilities the developers will be retain a certain amount of ownership pipe lines for the swimming pools for the greens and golf course. In order to legally supply water to the various condominiums 42 and have them link up when they purchase a unit, what they have to do is form a Water Works Company. To do that there are provisions under the Transportation Corp. Laws to set up this system of distribution. They need your consent they also need the consent of the Town Supt. of Highways. That is the purpose of this resolution, in otherwords in order to get water up to the Top O' The World and pass it out to the different condominimum owners they have got to have this. COUNCILMAN EISENHART They are going to use Queensbury Water? TN COUNSEL MATHIAS- No, they will use their own, they will have their own source of water supply from their own wells. The water rates will be set by the public service commission and they will control how much the company charges to the various condominiums owners. The catch is there is one in the terms of the liability of the Town is that Transportation Corp. Law provides, although the Certificate of Incorporation says it is perpetual but the corporation could only last five years. There was a situation in Clifton Park where the Town had to take over the sewage system, so there is a potential liability to the Town that five years from now if the Developers abandon the project someone will have to handle the water supply system for the units, that is if there is any kind of complex development such as proposed for Top O' The World. The positive side is simply that, should that occur it would be simple for the Town to create a water district, a self contained water district, and add the cost directly on to the owners of the units. There is no real exposure both the Dept. of Health and Dept. of Environmental Conseration and APA have reviewed the detailed Engineering Spec. and looked at the reports on the water quantity and quality and have given their approval, so it seems to me that the liability is small. COUNCILMAN OLSON- They are not ready to sell water, this month or next month... TN COUNSEL MATHIAS- Because of the timing in terms of ...once they get the corporation in place they have to go before the public service commission and get their rates approved, this takes several months. COUNCILMAN OLSON- I have some strong reservations about handling this, this evening. 1. Can we demand or do we have any kind of a certificate or bond from the Company saying they will provide the service and finish it up? TN COUNSEL MATHIAS- But if you do, you pass the cost on to the home owner anyway. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- What if there are not enough home owners to pass it on to? TN COUNSEL MATHIAS- This is something the Planning Board approved, you approved it when you gave them the planned unit development approval and rezoned them, they obtained a permit from Encon in 1983, this is not a new proposal that anyone is making, this is the only way they could legally do it. We have a $50,000. bond as part of the performance bond. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-That would not go very far in putting in a Water Dist. TN COUNSEL MATHIAS- It is tough at this point to shift the rules in terms... COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Suspose something happens to the water quality ...will the Town become a party to that liability? 43 TN COUNSEL MATHIAS- No. You are just saying that you have no objection to this corporation being formed. SUPERVISOR WALTER- The resolution states that we have reviewed the engineering plan and report of the consulting engineer and the well testing report and the permit issued by the Dept. of Environmental Conservation and as Supervisor I have not read any of that...this information just arrived... I think that the Town should have someone with some expertise look at the plans... Discussion held and it was noted that Mr. Flaherty and Mr. Dean would review the project as submitted and report to the Board... RESOLUTION TO TABLE RESOLUTION NO. 32 OF 1985 RESOLUTION NO. 33, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson: RESOLVED, that Resolution No. 32 of 1985 entitled "RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CONSENT OF TOWN BOARD AND TOWN HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT TO THE FORMATION OF TOP O-WORLD WATER CO., INC." be and hereby is tabled, for further investigation. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter Noes: None Absent:None COUNCILMAN OLSON- Questioned the paragraph regarding the signature of the Highway Supt...those are not Town Roads... TN COUNSEL MATHIAS- The State Law says to get a certificate of incorporation filed you have to have a signature...they can not file without a signature... RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A LOCAL LAW REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF EXEMPTION BY SECITON 458-a OF THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW RESOLUTION NO.34, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mrs. Betty Monahan: WHEREAS, a public hearing duly published in accordance with the law by the Town Clerk was held on January 22, 1985 at 7:30 P.M. at the Queensbury Town Office Building at which all persons were heard both in favor of an opposed to a Local Law reducing the amount of exemption by Section 458-a of the Real Property Tax Law, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Local Law be established as follows: A local law reducing the amount of exemption by Section 458-a of the Real Property Tax Law. SECTION 1. Pursuant to the authority of paragraph (d) of subdivision 2 of Section 458-a of the Real Property Tax Law, the amount of exemption provided by paragraphs (a), (b), and (c) of such subdivision 2 is hereby reduced as follows: °----- (a) $9,000.00 (b) $6,000.00 (c) $30,000.00 SECTION 2. This local law shall take effect immediately upon filing in the Office of the Secretary of State. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: None 44 Noes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter Absent: None MOTION DEFEATED COUNCILMAN MORRELL- Noted that upon the defeat of this Local Law proposal the State maximum exemption will take place on February 1st. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think that if the State had done this properly they would have done it in a way to honor the veterans through the income tax and all veterans could have taken advantage of it...I also want to make my point that when we take the tax burden from one person we have to put it on other...We all are appreciative of what the veterans have done, but I think the State should have been a little bit more appreciative. SUPERVISOR WALTER- I feel that the veterans that came out here this evening I think after the Public Hearing have a different idea as to how much dollars they are going to realize in their pockets after Option 1 the State Maximum or Option 2 which we discussed here as a proposed Local Law, the fact is that there are not too many dollars that are involved. I regret that, I feel if the State really wished to give any kind of a benefit to veterans of any of our wars that they would have done a lot better than this exemption on real property tax. MR. FIORE- Board Members, on behalf of the veterans that appeared here tonight and the American Legion of Queensbury and Glens Falls and VFW of Queensbury and Glens Falls and the Marine Corp. League we want to thank you from the botton of our hearts for a job I know was difficult...Thank you very much... COMMUNICATIONS -Ltr. -from Water Supt. Flaherty-on file in Supervisor's office-requesting attendance at Chlorination Equipment Seminar-February 2nd and 8th Belville, New Jersey RESOLUTION TO ATTEND SEMINAR RESOLUTION NO. 35, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell: RESOLVED, that permission is hereby granted to Mr. Thomas Flaherty, Water Superintendent to attend a Chlorination Equipment Seminar on February 2nd and 8th 1985 in Belville, New Jersey and be it further RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes payment of all reasonable and necessary expenses. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter Noes: None Absent: None -Ltr. Building & Zoning Dept. -on file in Supervisor's Office- requesting permission to attend The Capital Dist. Chapter of the New York State Building Officials Conference on Friday January 215, 1985. ------- RESOLUTION TO ATTEND CONFERENCE. RESOLUTION NO. 36, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved its adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell: RESOLVED, that permission is hereby granted to Mr. Mack Dean, Building Inspector 45 and Mr. Rick Bolton, Assistant Building Inspector to attend a meeting of the Capital Dist. Chapter of the New York State Building Officials Conference on Friday, January 25, 1985, and be it further RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes payment of all reasonable and necessary expenses. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter Noes: None i Absent:None "17PORTS -The 1984 Annual Report from the Receiver of Taxes and Assessments on file... OPEN FORUM 10:15 MR. JOSEPH DAIRE- Spoke to the Town Board in regard to a flat bed being parked on the Highway at night.... HIGHWAY SUPT. PAUL NAYLOR- Noted that he had spoken to the owner and would again... RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AUDIT OF BILLS RESOLUTION NO. 37, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Morrell who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson: RESOLVED, that Audit of Bills as appears on abstract No. 85-1B and numbered 78 through 80 and totaling $22,736.00 be and hereby is approved. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter Noes: None Absent:None RESOLUTION CALLING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION RESOLUTION NO. 38, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Morrell who moved for its adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson: RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby moves into executive session to discuss negotiations. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter Noes: None Absent:None On motion the meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Donald A. Chase, Town Clerk