1985-04-09 TOWN BOARD MEETING
APRIL 9, 1985
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS
Mrs. Frances Walter-Supervisor
Dr. Charles Eisenhart-Councilman
Mr. Daniel Morrell-Councilman
Mrs. Betty Monahan-Councilman
Mr. Wilson Mathias-Town Counsel
ABSENT:
Mr. Daniel Olson-Councilman
° PRESS: G.F. Post Star
GUESTS: Representatives from the State Department of Health, Residents of Division
Road, Ms. Ingalls, Rev. Storms
TOWN OFFICIALS: Mr. Paul Naylor, Mr. Thomas Flaherty, Mr. VanDusen, Mr. Bolton
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN MORRELL
MEETING OPENED 7:43 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING
Mobile Home Application of Julie Michelle Dickinson of 110 Park Dr. So. Glens Falls,
N.Y. to locate a mobile home on Wisconsin Avenue, owner of property John Dickinson...Approved
by the Building & Zoning Dept....Ms. Dickinson was present. . . NOTICE SHOWN...HEARING
OPENED 7:44 P.M.
SUPERVISOR WALTER-Asked if there was anyone present who wished to speak either
for or against the application? No one spoke...
COUNCILMAN EISENHART-Where is the trailer now?
MS. DICKINSON-At a Mobile Home Sales...
COUNCILMAN EISENIART-We have approved another mobile home across from
this site...
HEARING CLOSED 7:46 P.M.
OLD BUSINESS
DISCUSSION-Faith Bible Church application for a Stump Dump on the property of
the Faith Bible Church off Division Road...At this point in time there has been a
public hearing and the Town Board has been established as the Lead Agency under
SEQRA..TOWN CLERK DONALD A. CHASE-presented the Town Board with a petition
from Residents of the area in opposition to the Stump Dump..."We the Residents
of Division Road are totally against the Stump Dump that is going to be put on the
Faith Bible Church property off Division Road (27 signatures) SUPERVISOR WALTER-
requested public input, the question that the Town Board has is that we have received
a petition in opposition to the establishment of the Stump Dump, we would like to
know the reasons why the residents are opposed to it. Mr. MONRIAN-Division Road-80%
of the people that live on Division Road have signed the petition and two on Corinth
Road whose lots adjoin Division Road..object to the traffic and noise that the stump
dump will create ..we have put up with this for four years illegally and we do not
feel that we should have to put up with this any longer. If the Faith Bible Church
V, can sell fill why can't they use it to fill in the ravine? STEVEN DECKER-Division
Road-Noted that he moved into the area in May of 1984, shortly after moving in I
was aware of Mr. Threw's activity, carrying loads of gravel and stone in and out of
the Faith Bible Church Property...it is apparent that the site is being used as a local
storage site for Mr. Threw's gravel business elsewhere. Noted that noise has been
a problem in the area with the trucks, I have written Mr. Threw regarding the noise...
at the occasion of the Tractor pull at the Civic Center last year the residents were
subject to the truck activity dust and noise until well after midnight at the Civic
Center was emptied of tons of clay mixture, dumped at the Faith Bible Church location.
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Noted that he was informed that the clay mixture was dug from the site originally
and trucked to the Civic Center...Stumps are vegetation and are unsuitable for fill...questioned
how long can the surface of Division Road as a residential street, be expected to
hold up under the pounding of such heavy equipment...requested that specific site
plans be submitted with a time table as to when the project will be completed, also
environmental impact statements as to what these proposed plans will have on the
wetlands along the river in the area and not to mention the impact that it is currently
having on the environment of the residents of Division Road. From its past history
and the current hauling in and out of stored gravel and dumping of Civic Center Clay
it must now be obvious to the Board that a very open and deliberate commercial activity
is being conducted on tax exempt church property, in a residentially zoned area on
a residential street. MRS. BALLOU-Division Road-I agree with everthing that Mr.
Decker said it has been a nuisance with dust and dirt and noise...MR. BOGGS-Attend
the Faith Bible Church-I find it difficult to believe that we have to apply to anyone
anyone for permission to fill a gully on our land. With all due respect to our neighbors
we live on roads too, we do not bellyache when trucks go by. The need to have a
whole row of stipulations attached to fill a gully on our land seems rather crazy to
me. We are willing to put up with that. My feeling is that we do have a need to fill
the gully to make the turn-around for the cemetery and with all do respect to our
worthy neighbors I cannot see any reason why they should object to our doing something
on our land if we are not enforcing our, if we are not trying to restrict them from
doing something on their land. My own feeling is that if the Town Board is not willing
to defend, not merely the permit but defend us in our right to do something on our
land then I would wonder what kind of public servants we have in Queensbury. JACK
CLOSE-Western Avenue-Member of Faith Bible Church-Spoke on how the Church
came to be on Division Road...spoke on the need to be able to drive in and out of
the cemetery...REV. STORMS-PASTOR-Faith Bible Church-No boat launch by the
River, never began the project...we have met with the Town Attorney and are will
ing to abide by a number of stipulations to permit us to do one thing, to fill in a gully,
not to run a gravel business, we have a road that is being reconstructed, gravel will
be used for that. It is not an enormous project but would enhance the utility of the
present road into our Cemetery. The size of the project is not so great that it will
last very long. Spoke about vandalism done on Church property—We do not want
debris dumped there that are attractive to rats etc....The Memorial Gardens is a
place of beauty and we wish to keep it that way...COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-You
said that this would not be an enormous project or take very long but at the last meeting
it was said that it might take ten years to fill the gully up? MR. THREW-It depends
on how much I have to put in...COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-There is gravel there now,
where did that come from? REV. STORMS-We are preparing to re-do a road...it did
not come off our own property...COUNCILMAN EISENHART-The proposed approval
limits the dumping to tree stumps, limbs, brush, leaves, it has to be covered within
less than seventy-two hours from deposit ..it is limited to operation between 7 a.m.
to b p.m. to sundown whichever is earlier, six days a week and no operation on Sunday...roadway
to remain gated...no overnight storage of equipment on the premises, no fill is to
be removed from the site...what I find here is that all the objections except having
the trucks going up and down the road, all objections stated here tonight have been
covered by this resolution. . .COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-questioned if the property
access should be fenced and gated...REV. STORMS-We have not been able to put
anything in the gully that we are referring to, we removed a lot of stumps and cleared
a lot of land when we built and filled in another ravine and there has been other things
hauled into that ravine as well? COUNCILMAN MORRELL-Why didn't you fill the
ravine that you want to fill now? REV. STORMS-We want to fill both and one was
more handy to the land we were clearing and so we put it in the closest place first
this leaves the other one yet to be filled. COUNCILMAN MORRELL-You are filling
a ravine now, you are asking for a permit for a stump dump... 1 hear all these honest
people and I find it difficult to really take a stand and support your position, when
I hear all these honest people giving their statements and they all disagree. From
what 1 have heard if you really wanted this thing filled, I would not put my stuff in
another ravine, I would put it in the ravine that I wanted filled. REV. STORMS-It
is possible to want two ravines filled on our property, we started one and it is filled
as much...COUNCILMAN MORRELL-You are not asking for a permit for the other
ravine, you are asking for this particular one. REV. STORMS-We did not seek a permit
for the first ravine, we started filling it with stumps from our own property, the Town
of Queensbury was drawing in fill there as well. COUNCILMAN MORRELL-Is that
true Paul? MR. NAYLOR-Nodded yes...REV. STORMS-We had two ravines we wanted
to fill, two gullies, one is practically filled, we are not going to fill any farther down
the ravine than it is right now, with that being filled we are seeking permission to
fill the other one. When we fill that one, we did not ask permission we started filling
it up with fill off our own property and then we did not know we needed permission
to fill it because the Town of Queensbury was putting fill in there as well. COUNCILMAN
MORRELL-The question here is filling with your own material is no problem, but
filling with other material is a problem. Why didn't you put your cemetery over when
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you already have the ravine filled? REV. STORMS-We do have the prerogative of
putting our cemetery on our property where we want it and to fill what ravine we
want to fill when we want to fill that ravine. Which is what we have done, we have
filled one ravine when we wanted to, which ravine we wanted to and now we desire
to fill another one. COUNCILMAN MORRELL-You should be able to fill it with your
own material then. REV. STORMS-We could hire someone at a cost to us to take
fill off one place on our property and put it in another place and make a hole there
it would also would not be done free. We can fill it with stumps for free.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It is not really free, it is being done at the inconvenience
of the neighbors. WALT BURNHAM-I. do believe that the stump dump that we are
requesting for the Faith Bible Church is something that we could use, and it would
be helpful and we would try and get along with our neighbors with the stipulations
that have been put before us from the Town Board. We do not want to do it when
the business hours are not there or disturb the neighbors any more than possible, we
would like to get it over with quickly. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-My problem is
that everybody is saying that they are going to do everthing so well now, why weren't
the members of the church policing this action in the months past so the neighbors
would not have had to go through all this disturbance? MR. BURNHAM-As the different
problems came up I do believe we did take care of them. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I
do not think so with the complaints that this Board has been listening to for several
years. It is hard for us to reconcile that everthing is going to be apple pie in the
future, when in the past when the church members should have been monitoring this,
and they have not been. MR. BURNHAM-The Town Board could monitor this with
no problem, Mr. Naylor lives right on the street. Our neighbors would monitor us
quite closely. COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- I think that they have... MR. RODNEY
WARRINGTON-Caretaker, Custodian for Faith Bible Church-I live on the property,
I do monitor people bringing things in there. I have personally stopped people from
bringing brush, truck loads of junk in there, 1 have told them that they cannot do
so. If they wanted to put anything in there they would have to ask Bill Threw. Filling
in the ravine, would make it a lot easier on people who are grieving over a lost one,
when you drive into the cemetery, you have a line of cars and you have to wait for
the person behind you to back out, you have to back the hearse out, it would be a
lot nicer if you could pull in and turn around, and drive out. MR. TUCKER-Questioned
if the Church could sell 200,000 cu yds. of fill to Niagara Mohawk why couldn't they
use it now for filling in the ravine...at the last meeting Mr. Shaw, used the figure
of 900 feet to be filled in, that seems like a lot of filling to just have a place to turn
cars around for their cemetery. Noted that he has stopped people from dumping
on the property—this has been going on for four years and has not been handled very
well.
OLD BUSINESS
-Mobile Home Application of Allen Converse of 30 Center St., Fort Edward to locate
a mobile home on Warren Lane-hearing was held...the Town Board asked the applicant
to add some information to the application, Mr. Converse has done that...
SUPERVISOR WALTER-noted that the Town Board has given a temporary permit
to Mr. Thomas Harris for a mobile home on what appears to be on the same
property...Mr. Converse is Mr. Harris's mobile home on the same parcel?
MR. CONVERSE-It is on the 5.39 acres...
COUNCILMAN EISENHART-Using a drawing, showed the location of the existing
and proposed mobile homes...
MR. CONVERSE- Mr. Harris will be moving his mobile home...
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- The map that was submitted shows 50'x350', but in the
letter signed by Roberta Converse it says 10'x350', questioned the amount...
MR. CONVERSE- It is 50'
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- Questioned Lucky Lane, this would be the 50' section?
MR. CONVERSE-If and when the road, is brought up to grade to Town specifications
it would then be turned over to the Town, I would relinquish all claims to that...(Lucky
Lane)
COUNCILMAN EISENHART-She is selling you 5.39 Acres, including the 10' OR 50'
MR. CONVERSE-The 5.39 Acres includes the 50' section...
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SUPERVISOR WALTER-When Mr. Converse came to see me, we reviewed the map
which at one time was broken up into a subdivision for mobile homes, I indicated
to him that if he placed a mobile home in that location, he would be jeopardising
5.39 acres to the placement of any mobile homes in the future. You could have one
mobile home on 5.39 acres.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN- Requested an additional written statment from Roberta
Converse stating the proper amount to be sold to Mr. Alan Converse...
COUNCILMAN EISENHART-Also requested a statement from Roberta Converse
that she is selling this 5.39 Acres and also a clarification regarding the 10' vs. 50'
onto Warren Lane and a map of the area...
It was the consensus not to act on the mobile home application until Mr. Converse
presents the Board with a statement of sale from Roberta Converse, a clarification
of the 10'vs 50' onto Warren Lane and a map of the area.
SUPERVISOR WALTER-Mr. Harris is to be moved by the 15th of May, the Board
will not act to have two mobile homes on one lot...
COUNCILMAN EISENHART- What we are saying; is that another mobile home cannot
go on that lot until Mr. Harris removes his mobile home...
OLD BUSINESS
-Mobile Home Application of the Ridge Road Wesleyan Church to use two units for
class rooms...this application was held over from the last meeting to allow a representative
from the Ridge Road Wesleyan Church to be present at this meeting...this is an extension
of two other previous one year extensions...
SUPERVISOR WALTER-How many times are you going to request extensions?
REPRESENTATIVE FROM CHURCH-This will be the last time either way, we are
either going to build or get rid of them. We had a building permit with the Town,
filed last fall, our plans did not come around, however we are again in a building program.
We have a meeting next week to approve a set of plans and as soon as we do we should
be underway within a month, from that date. Noted that the units are for class rooms
with no plumbing there is electric heat...We did not intend this to go on this long
but we are changing Pastors this year and has had us very busy...we should have no
further problems as far as I can see.
INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION -STATE FLUORIDATION PROGRAM
Representative from the Health Dept., G.F. Branch-Ms Carniham,Research Scientist
-Dr. Lee DDS -Presentation given as to placing fluoride in the Queensbury Water
System...financial aid available-the grant will cover...cost of consultant to design
the system, the purchase of the fluoridation equipment and monotoring equipment
and installation, cost of fluoride for the first year and that the local water operator
is trained...we have had an engineer look at the Queensbury Water System and he
has made an estimate of cost to initiate fluoridation in the system would cost $18,700.00
provided by the grant, the cost to the community would be the cost after the first
year. The community would pay for the cost of the fluoride and maintenance which
is minimal, the cost for fluoride for this community per year would be $1,800.00.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Has there been any known allergic reactions to fluoriding
water?
MS. CARNIHAM-No
SUPERVISOR WALTER-Thanked the Health Dept. for their presentation.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE MINUTES
RESOLUTION NO. 85, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
RESOLVED, that the Town Board Minutes of March 26, 1985 be and hereby are approved.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
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Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Olson
RESOLUTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING
RESOLUTION NO. 86, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
WJiEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury wishes to provide for placement
of mobile homes in designated areas in the Town, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board determines it necessary to seek planning assistance in
the establishment of specified areas for mobile homes and desires a reasonable time
period of six (6) months for this study and
WHEREAS, the proposed enactment of Local Law of 1985 is worthy of consideration
for legislative action, a copy of which is annexed,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury hereby sets a public hearing relative to
adoption of Local Law of 1985 for Tuesday, April 23, 1985 at 7:30 P.M. in the Meeting
Room of the Town of Queensbury Office Building, Bay and Haviland Roads in the
Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New York at which all persons interested In
the subject thereof will be heard and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk be hereby directed and authorized to publish and
provide notice of said public hearing as may be required by law.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
(Text of Proposed Local Law)
A LOCAL LAW TO IMPOSE A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM OF THE ISSUANCE
OF PERMITS AND/OR THE GRANTING OF APPROVAL FOR ALL MOBILE HOME
PERMITS IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
SECTION 1. TITLE: The law shall be known as the Mobile Home Moratorium Law
in the Town of Queensbury.
SECTION Z. INTENT: The Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby finds that
neighborhood character in the Town of Queensbury has changed as a result of a number
of factors including but not limited to population densities, development or proposed
development of major subdivisions and multiple family dwellings and construction
of commercial enterprises. For these reasons the Town Board finds that new consideration
must be given to the establishment of zones for mobile homes and/or regulations
for approved sub-divisions for the placement of mobile homes in the Town of Queensbury.
It is the intention of the Town Board to retain planning assistance which will result
in the development of zoned districts and/or,regulations for the location of mobile
homes in the Town of Queensbury. The Town Board, therefore, finds it necessary
to adopt a reasonable interim local law while conducting a study of zoned districts
for mobile homes in the Town. This action is necessary in order to provide for the
existence of this kind of housing and to protect the characteristics of the present
land use plan, to expand the present Zoning Ordinance, and to prevent a race of diligence
between property owners and mobile home owners and the Town of Queensbury.
SECTION 3. APPLICATION: This law shall apply to all areas within the municipality.
SECTION 4. DURATION: This law shall be in effect for a period of six (6) calendar
months from the effective date of the initial filing of the Local Law of the year
1985.
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SECTION 5. PROHIBITIONS: There shall be no permits issued or approvals given
by the Town Board to any mobile home application during the period of this moratorium.
The provisions of this paragraph may not be waived.
SECTION 6. EXISTING ACTIVITIES: The action of the Town Board relative to mobile
home permits that have been filed in the Office of Building and Zoning, Town of Queensbury
at the time of adoption of this Local Law may be continued and shall not be affected
by the terms and provisions of this Local Law.
SECTION ?. SEVERABILITY: The invalidity of any word, section, clause, paragraph,
sentence, part or provision of this local law shall not affect the validity of any other
part of this local law which can be given effect without such invalid part or parts.
SECTION 8. EFFECTIVE DATE: This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon
the filing in the Office of the Secretary of State of the State of New York.
SUPERVISOR WALTER-I would indicate that we have looked at Mobile Home Applications
from various points in the Town we have a Zoning Ordinance that we wish to look
upon adn establish specific districts and the regulations for the provisions of mobile
homes in the Town of Queensbury. Therefore the moratorium is a temporary one
which will take place for a period of six months at that time we would hope then
to have introduced to the public and have had public hearings relative to amendments
to our Zoning Ordinance and Maps that everyone can review.
RESOLUTION TO RETAIN ENGINEERING SERVICES
RESOLUTION NO. 87, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board has determined the need for additional water
storage in the public water supply, and
WHEREAS, it is necessary by State Law to retain professional engineering services
for such a project, and
WHEREAS, Kestner Engineers, P.C. of Troy, New York has done preliminary studies
on the feasibility of the construction of additional water storage,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the firm of Kestner Engineers, P.C. be retained by the Town of
Queensbury for design phase engineering services for a proposed 2,000,000 gallon
water storage reservoir, valve chamber, telemetering and interconnecting water
main facilities at a fee not exceeding $39,485.00
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-What is our present storage capacity?
MR. FLAHERTY,WATER SUPT.- Three Million Gallons...
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RESOLUTION NO. 88, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Morrell who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Betty Monahan:
WHEREAS, the residents of the Luzerne Road area have petitioned for water service
from the Town of Queensbury and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to pursue the formation of a water district,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board will retain the engineering services of Charles H.
Scudder, P.E. for an amount not exceeding $36,400.00 in the preparation of a map,
plan and report for said water district.
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Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Olson
SUPERVISOR WALTER- Mr. Scudder's fee would be $31,800.00 for the map/plan
and report, that would be if the work was done in house on laying the mains etc...if
we cannot handle the project as bids and specifications would need to go out an extra
$4,600.00 would be required, placing the figure of $36,400.00 in the resolution.
RESOLUTION TO RESCIND RESOLUTION NO. 17 - 1985 PERTAINING TO MILEAGE
ALLOWANCE
RESOLUTION NO. 89, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Morrell who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Betty Monahan:
RESOLVED, to rescind Resolution No. 17 of January 8, 1985 establishing mileage
allowance for personal automobile at $.22 per mile.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING MILEAGE ALLOWANCE
RESOLUTION NO. 90, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 102 of the Town Law of the State of New York,
the sum of $.21 per mile be and hereby is allowed for the actual and necessary use
of the personal automobile of any Town Official in the performance of his duties.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
RESOLUTION TO SET HOURLY RATE FOR ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS STENOGRAPHER
RESOLUTION NO. 91, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
WHEREAS, the Town Board by resolution number 19, 1985 set the compensation for
the stenographer per diem, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to amend resolution number 19, 1985
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the hourly rate for the Stenographer for the Queensbury Zoing Board
of Appeals will be $10.00 per hour.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Olson
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SUPERVISOR WALTER-This is a request from the Chairman of the Zoning Board
of Appeals, he feels that we would perhaps come out about the same and maybe twenty-thirty
dollars over budget but the Stenographer for the Zoning Board of Appeals has had
to work many, many hours for her original per diem amount, she would like to be
paid by the hour. She is paid for the amount of hours she is here taking the minutes
of the Zoning Board of Appeals and the hours transcribing those minutes.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I have heard comments that they are not back very fast...I
think that there ought to be a stipulation on how many days she has to get the minutes
back to the members.
RESOLUTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING ON LOCAL LAW ESTABLISHING VOTER
REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS FOR TOWN SPECIAL ELECTIONS �-
RESOLUTION NO. 92, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart:
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has determined that the provisions
for voter registration and qualification to vote in town special elections pursuant
to Section 84 of the Town Law are ambiguous and restrictive and may limit the persons
eligible to vote at a special town election, and
WHEREAS, a proposed local law establishing rules for registration of voters in town
special elections which adopts the current permanent registration requirements as
set forth in the Election Law, a copy of which is hereto annexed, and has been prepared,
and
WHEREAS, the proposed local law is worthy of consideration for legislative action,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that a public hearing be held concerning the proposed adoption of said
local law and that said public hearing be held at 7:30 P.M. in the meeting room of
the Town of Queensbury Office Building, Bay & Haviland Roads in the Town of Queensbury,
Warren County, New York on the 23rd. day of April, 1985 at which time all persons
interested in the subject thereof will be heard, and be it further
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RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk be hereby directed and authorized to publish and
provide notice of said public hearing as may be required by law.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
(Text of Proposed Local Law)
A LOCAL LAW ESTABLISHING VOTER REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS IN TOWN
SPECIAL ELECTIONS
Be it enacted by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury as follows:
SECTION 1. No person shall be entitled to vote in any special election held in and
ofr the Town of Queensbury pursuant to the provisions of the Town Law unless he
or she shall be registered to vote with the Warren County Board of Elections, and
such registration shall have been filed with the Warren County Board of Elections
not less than thirty (30) days prior to the date of such special election.
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SECTION 2. Unless otherwise prohibited by law, the list of registered voters maintained
by the Warren County Board of Elections shall be utilized for all special town elections _...y
purposes, including the use by the special election inspectors to determine the eligibility
of any voter wishing to vote in such special election.
SECTION 3. This local law shall take effect immediately upon filing thereof int eh
Office of the Secretary of State.
TOWN COUNSEL-This arose from the petitions that were filed with the Town Clerk
on March 15, 1985. The Town law provisions for holding special elections are, I think
ambiguous with respect to who can vote. There is a procedure under Town Law that
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allows a first class town to hold a registration, personal registration for a special
election. I think that, that kind of provision makes it difficult to and limits the number
of voters who actually vote in such an election. What this law will do would be to
simply establish the rules for registering and being allowed to vote in any special
election held in the Town of Queensbury to be the same rules that would apply in
any general election held throughout the State of New York.
COUNCILMAN MORRELL-Is that not already inferred?
TOWN COUNSEL-Article 84 lists several conflicting eligibility standards including
the ownership of real property.
SUPERVISOR WALTER- A special Town Election is handled entirely by the Town,
we are not led through the election by Board of Elections as we would be if it was
in fact a general election.
COUNCILMAN MORRELL-Are you saying we are going to go through the formalities
of saying that we will follow the General Election Procedures in a normal Novemeber
Election on the first tuesday after the first monday in November?
Or are you saying that only those who register to vote in this special election will
be allowed to vote in the special election?
TOWN COUNSEL-If you are registered to vote thirty days before a special election
you will be eligible to vote.
SUPERVISOR WALTER-The law is ambiguous as to who can vote, we went through
this when we had a special election in the Town of Queensbury relative to a sewer
district, there was a lot of challenges to it. If we can determine who is going to be
allowed to vote in an election that we feel will probably be forthcoming we are setting
down the laws that they will not be challenged. When the election is held and the
vote is in we will not have the challenges, we will know exactly and the people who
work that day will understand who can vote. We are saying that we will use the registration
lists that are on file with the Warren County Board of Elections as the best way to
determine who can vote.
COUNCILMAN MORRELL-This goes to a public hearing on the 23rd. it will then
be acted upon...could it be acted upon on the 23rd?
SUPERVISOR WALTER-Absolutely. We do have a time constraint...
TOWN COUNSEL-You have twenty days, you have to establish a date for an election,
twenty days before the date you set.
SUPERVISOR WALTER-However, with the time constraint, if the petitions are legal
from the day that they were filed you have to have the election in how many days?
TOWN COUNSEL-Sixty to Seventy-five days.
COUNCILMAN MORRELL-If someone moved into the Town in Janaury...by this they
could vote...
TOWN CLERK-Would this also be valid for a referendum vote on a water district?
TOWN COUNSEL-Any Special Election...
COUNCILMAN MORRELL-Under this resolution if you move in after the November
Election Day and lets say in January and you register you can be eligible to vote in
a special election or referendum on a district, where before they would not be allowed
to. This resolution will allow more people the opportunity...
TOWN COUNSEL-That is right it will allow anybody who could vote in any regular
election to vote and clears up any question of anybody saying you cannot vote or
this is not your signature or who are you.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CONSENT OF TOWN BOARD TO THE FORMATION
OF PINE CREMATORIUM, INC.
RESOLUTION NO. 93, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart:
WHEREAS, Regan & Denny Funeral Service, Inc., is presently in the process of forming
Not-for-Profit Corporation for the purposes of building and operating a crematorium
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at the rear of its funeral home located on Quaker Road in the Town of Queensbury,
and
WHEREAS, Section 1506 of the Not-for-Profit Corporation Law provides that no
cemetery shall be located in any town without the consent of the Town Board of such
town, and
• WHEREAS, a crematorium is defined as a cemetary under the Not-for-Profit Corporation
Law,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby consents to the
formation of Pine Crematorium, Inc., and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is authorized to execute a form acknowledging .i
the Town Board's consent to be attached to the certificate of incorporation for Pine
Crematorium, Inc., to be filed with the Secretary of State of the State of New York.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
SUPERVISOR WALTER-In order for Mr. Ross to even talk to the Dept. of Environmental
Conservation and all the various agencies the Town Board is obliged to take this action
if they wish to have him advance this project...
RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE TEMPORARY PERMIT FOR MOBILE HOME
RESOLUTION NO. 94, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
WHEREAS, the Ridge Road Wesleyan Church has made application in accordance
with paragraph 2 (B) Section 4, of an ordinance of the Town of Queensbury entitled --
ORDINANCE FOR THE REGULATION OF MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE HOME
COURTS IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, WARREN COUNTY, NEW YORK, to
locate a mobile home outside of a duly licensed mobile home court at property situated
at Ridge Road, and
WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that the facts presented in said application are
sufficient to authorize the issuance of the permit requested by said application, thereofre
be it
RESOLVED, that pursuant to the provisions of the above mentioned ordinance, temporary
permission is hereby given to Ridge Road Wesleyan Church of Ridge Road to locate
(2) mobile homes outside of a licensed mobile home court for a period of one year
at property situated at Ridge Road, Town of Queensbury, and that the Building Inspector
is hereby authorized and directed to issue such permit in accordance with the terms
and conditions of said ordinance.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs.Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE PERMIT FOR MOBILE HOME
RESOLUTION NO. 95, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption,
seconed by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
WHEREAS, Julie Michelle Dickinson has made application in accordance with paragraph
2 (c) Section 4 of an ordinance of the Town of Queensbury entitled; ORDINANCE
FOR THE REGULATION OF MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE HOME COURTS IN THE
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, WARREN COUNTY, NEW YORK, to locate a mobile home
at property situated at Wisconsin Avenue, and
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WHEREAS, this Town Board has conducted a public hearing in connection with said
application and has heard all persons desiring to be heard in favor of or against said
application, and
WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that the facts presented in said application and
at said public hearing are sufficient to authorize the issuance of the permit requested
by said application, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that pursuant to the provisions of the above mentioned ordinance, permission
is hereby given to Julie Michelle Dickinson to locate a mobile home at property situated
at Wisconsin Avenue, and that the Building Inspector is hereby authorized and directed
to issue such permit in accordance with the terms and conditions of said ordinance.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
RESOLUTION SIGNIFYING NO SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REGARDING
THE APPLICATION OF THE FAITH BIBLE CHURCH-STUMP DUMP
RESOLUTION NO. 96, Introduced by Dr. Charms Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
Resolution forthcoming from Town Counsel, to be found on page_LC(!).
Discussion-Supervisor Walter asked that the reasons for the environmental significance...
COUNCILMAN MONANHAN-The impact on the neighborhood and there were no
written steps that will monitor this to make sure that it is done the way it should
be. They say they will but they do not list any concrete method of how they are going
to do it, and it has not been done in the past. The hours of traffic and the hazardto
the children waiting for school busses, so far the conditions set are hours of operation
between 7 and 6 that when the school busses are running and heavy trucks are on
the roads. How many heavy trucks will be using the road and how often. The disturbance
of people's normal schedule, I know what those trucks and all that kind of equipment
sounds like, the noise of the automatic back up sound... COUNCILMAN MORRELL-When
the people are working tower shift and are sleeping during the day...this would cause
an environmental impact...COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The trucks will be running
at 6:30 to go to work at seven...how are they going to control the noise, what will
the traffic count be, children waiting for school busses crossing the road...TOWN
COUNSEL-If the Faith Bible Church wishes to go forward they must produce an environmental
impact statement and hold a hearing to determine whether or not the impact statement
is complete then you go on and determine whether or not you will give them a permit.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-In the mean time they can not operate a stump dump.
TOWN COUNSEL-We have an ordinance that they cannot dump material that is not
from their own property.
COMMUNICATIONS
-Ltr. and Notice of Order from DOT regarding 45 MPH on Route 9L 2.3t miles
from Quaker Road to Haviland Rds. no file...
-Ltr. Bay Ridge Fire Co.- Adding the following to the Active List-Richard Meyer-Scott
Howe-Keith E. Barton-Kirk T. Barton and Timothy J. Weaver-on file
-Ltr. Paul Naylor, Highway Supt. requesting permission of hold an auction of obsolete
equipment...on file
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Discussion Held-Supervisor Walter-requested a list of the items to be auction and
asked that other Departments be approached to see if they have any items to be placed
in the auction...
RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE AUCTION
RESOLUTION NO. 97, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes Mr. Paul Naylor, Highway Supt.
to hold an auction on April 27, 1985 at 9:00 A.M. at the Queensbury Highway Garage
for the purposg of disposing of obsolete items, and be it further
RESOLVED, that a list of such items to be auctioned be given to the Town Board
before such auction.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
-Mobile Home Application of David & Tammy Sommer of 37 Homestead Village to
locate a mobile home on the corner of Sunset Avenue and Nathan Street...Mr. Sommers
was present...
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Is the shell of a house on the lot that you want to place
a mobile home on?
MR. SOMMER-No...
COUNCILMAN EISEN HA RT-Questioned if he was going to use the existing foundation...
MR. SOMMER-The existing foundation is not large enough...
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-There are other mobile homes near this location?
MR. SOMMER-Yes...next door...there is the remains of a mobile home which will
be removed...
COUNCILMAN EISEN HA RT-requested that by the public hearing Mr. Sommer would
have a document from Doris Hensler that you will own the land...
RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE PUBLIC HEARING
RESOLUTION NO. 98, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Morrell who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart:
WHEREAS, David & Tammy Sommer have made application in accordance with paragraph
2 (c) Section 4, of an ordinance of the Town of Queensbury entitled ORDINANCE
FOR THE REGULATION OF MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE HOME COURTS IN THE
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, WARREN COUNTY, NEW YORK, to locate a mobile home
outside at property situated at the corner of Sunset Avenue and Nathan Street, and
WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that said application complies with the requirements
of said ordinance, and
WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that the facts presented in said application are
sufficient to justify further consideration by this board, therefore be it
RESOLVED, that purusant to the provisions of the above mentioned ordinance, the
Town Board shall conduct a public hearing on said application on April 23, 1985 at
7:30 P.M. in the Queensbury Town Office Building, Bay Road, and that the Town Clerk
is hereby authorized and directed to give proper notice of said public hearing in accordance
with the provisions of said ordinance.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
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Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
-Mobile Home Application of Joseph & Elizabeth Viger of 30 Luzerne Road, to locate
a mobile home on Stevens Road..Mr. Viger was present...
SUPERVISOR WALTER-There is currently a mobile home on this lot?
MR. VIGER-Yes
SUPERVISOR WALTER-You are applying to a permit and you would replace that
mobile home with a 1981 model?
MR. VIGER-Yes.
COUNCILMAN EISENHART-You are buying the land?
MR. VIGER-Yes.
SUPERVISOR WALTER-What will you do with the mobile home that is there?
MR. VIGER-1 hope to sell it for a hunting camp...
RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE PUBLIC HEARING
RESOLUTION NO. 99, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Morrell who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Dr. Charles Eisenhart:
WHEREAS, Joseph & Elizabeth Viger have made application in accordance with paragraph
2 (c) Section 4, of an ordinance of the Town of Queensbury entitled ORDINANCE
FOR THE REGULATION OF MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE HOME COURTS IN THE
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, WARREN COUNTY, NEW YORK, to locate a mobile home
outside at property situated at Stevens Road, and
WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that said application complies with the requirements
of said ordinance, and
WHEREAS, it is hereby determined that the facts presented in said.application are
sufficient to justify further consideration by this board, therefore be it
RESOLVED, that pursuant to the provisions of the above mentioned ordinance, the
Town Board shall conduct a public hearing on said application on April 23, 1985 at
7:30 P.M. in the Queensbury Town Office Building, Bay Road, and that the Town Clerk
is hereby authorized and directed to give proper notice of said public hearing in accordance
with the provisions of said ordinance.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
SUPERVISOR WALTER-requested that a contract to purchase be presented at the
public hearing for the property on Stevens Road...
COUNCILMAN EISEN HA RT-Requested that the reason be stated for hardship on
the application.
REPORTS
-Town Clerk's Monthly Report-Month of March, 1985 on file
-Building & Zoning Monthly Report-Month of March, 1985 on file
OPEN FORUM
-Mr. Silvernell-Spoke to the Town Board regarding the dumping situation behind the
Convenient Food Mkt. on Main Street West Glens Falls...
SUPERVISOR WALTER-Noted that Mr. Rick Bolton would meet with Mr. Silvernell
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and review the situation and do what is necessary to have the debris cleaned up behind
this establishment...
-FLORA INGALLS-Cleverdale-When do you intend to announce the date for the special
election?
TOWN COUNSEL-They have to announce the date twenty days before the election
date.
-FLORA INGALLS-When you were discussing the change in the election regulations
you said people would have to register 30 days before the election in order to be able
to vote?
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TOWN COUNSEL-That is correct.
-FLORA INGALLS-If you plan not to announce the date until twenty days before,
it limits the number of people that could vote.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-If you are already registered you are able to vote...we
are saying if you are not registered you should get registered. Now that you know
the election will happen why wouldn't you go and get registered?
SUPERVISOR WALTER-In any kind of a primary election, unless you have been registered
in a General Election before, and many times a primary is in June, if you have not
voted in November you will not be voting in the primary...I think that this is a whole
lot better, than what those laws stipulate.
-FLORA INGALLS-I think that using the election board regulations is a good one,
I am pointing out that if you do not announce the date until 20 days before, people
who would like to vote and are not registered will not have ample time to do it.
SUPERVISOR WALTER-The special election will be held within the legal time frame.
-JOAN COLLINS-Cottage Hill Road, Queensbury-By which date will we know definitely
if the ward system would be on the Ballot?
SUPERVISOR WALTER-The Board has got to set the date of any special election
at a Town Board Meeting.
-JOAN COLLINS-Is there a date by law that you are required to validate the petition
or throw them out?
TOWN COUNSEL-Twenty Days...
-JOAN COLLINS-It applies to the same thing as setting the date?
TOWN COUNSEL-Right...
-RONALD MONTESI-18 Meadow Drive-Reverend Storms probably made an impact
statement that was negative and we had that paper in front of us. ..
TOWN COUNSEL-He filed an environmental assessment form, that is not the same
thing.
-RONALD MONTESI-I would like an update as to the status of Round Pond?
SUPERVISOR WALTER-This is still under negotiation...I do not think we are making
much ground at all.
-BETTY BLUNT-Buena Vista Avenue-I was pleased with the presentation of fluoridation
of the water...in favor of the project...
SUPERVISOR WALTER-Announced that Mr. Rick Bolton, Assistant Building Inspector
has requested permission to attend a N.Y. State Training Program for Building Code
Officials-April 29-30 May 6,7, 13 and 14th 7-11 P.M. in Saranac Lake, N.Y.
RESOLUTION TO ATTEND CONFERENCE
RESOLUTION NO. 100, Introduced by Dr.. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
RESOLVED, that permission is hereby granted to the Assistant Building Inspector,
Rick Bolton to attend a New York State '.Graining Program from Building Officials
on April 29th,30th and May 6th,7th 13th and 14th 1985 at Saranac Lake, New York
and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes use of the Town Vehicle and authorizes
payment of all reasonable and necessary expenses.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Olson
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AUDIT OF BILLS
RESOLUTION NO. 101, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart, who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Daniel Morrell:
RESOLVED, that Audit of Bills as appears on Abstract No. 85-4 and numbered 547
through 728 and totaling $185,147.40 be and hereby is approved.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Walter
Noes: None
Abseut:Mr. Olson
On motion the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Donald A. Chase, Town Clerk
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RESOLUTION FINDING NO SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REGARDING
THE APPLICATION BY FAITH BIBLE CHURCH FOR REFUSE DISPOSAL FACILITY
RESOLUTION NO. 96, Introduced by Dr. Charles Eisenhart who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Frances Walter:
WHEREAS, on or about.January 29, 1985, a permit application was filed with the
Town of Queensbury on behalf of Faith Bible Church d/b/a Hope Memorial Gardens
for approval of a permit for a facility for the disposal of rubbish in accordance
with Ordinance No. 8, and
WHEREAS, on February 26, 1985, a public hearing was held on the aforesaid application,
and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has imposed certain conditions to be made part of
any permit issued pursuant to Ordinance No. 8,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby finds no significant
environmental impact regarding the Faith Bible Church d/b/a Hope Memorial Gardens
application for the operation of a rubbish disposal facility in accordance with Ordinance
No. 8 of the Town of Queensbury subject to the terms and conditions attached
hereto and made a part of such permit.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Eisenhart, Mr. Walter
Noes: Mr. Morrell, Mrs. Monahan
Absent:Mr. Olson
(Due to vote taken the motion was defeated)
CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL FOR FAITH BIBLE CHURCH PERMIT FOR RUBBISH
DISPOSAL FACILITY PURSUANT TO TOWN OF QUEENSBURY ORDINANCE
NO. 8
1. The Faith Bible Church shall authorize only one hauler of material to the
facility who will be known to the Town. This authority shall not be assigned to
any other individual, partnership or corporation.
2. Material authorized for disposal shall consist solely of tree stumps, limbs,
brush and leaves.
3. All material deposited shall be adequately covered with natural soils within
not less than seventy-two hours from deposit.
4. Faith Bible Church shall take all reasonable and necessary precautionary
provisions to prevent combustion and/or fire at the facility.
5. The facility shall be limited to not more than six hundred feet south of the
cemetery gravel road and not wider than the current ravine (Not greater than one
hundred fifty feet in width). In any event the facility shall remain not less than
two hundred feet from the stream or rivulet shown on the map of the facility.
6. The facility shall be operated between the hours of 7:00 a.m. to sundown
or 6:00 p.m. whichever is earlier six days per week. No operations shall be permitted
on Sunday.
7. Roadway is to remain gated when hauler is not on premises.
8. No overnite storage of equipment on premises.
9. No fill to be removed from site.
10. This permit shall be valid for a period of years. After this period
another application for a permit and approval will be required for further disposal
activity.