291656 - 9-15-22 TAVERN PARCEL COMPLETE SUBMISSION
Hutchins Engineering
169 Haviland Road
Queensbury, NY 12804
Phone: (518) 745-0307
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September 15, 2022
Town of Queensbury Planning & Zoning Boards
742 Bay Road
Queensbury NY 12804
Re: Sans Souci – 333 Cleverdale Road - Queensbury
Modification of a Special Use Permit and Site Plan Review for Adding Outdoor Seating
Tax Map ID: 226.12-1-43
Dear Chairman Traver & Board Members:
This office represents 333 Cleverdale, LLC with respect to their request to add outdoor seating
for the Sans Souci Tavern at 333 Cleverdale Road in Queensbury. The 0.27-acre parcel
contains the existing tavern and associated parking areas. During the COVID-19 Pandemic the
tavern has utilized several picnic tables and tables for outdoor seating to meet social distancing
regulations and allow the tavern to operate with reduced indoor seating guidelines. The owners
would like to continue the use of outdoor seating and are seeking a Special Use Permit
Modification and Site Plan Review to continue this use.
The proposed modification seeks to add 3 – four person tables (12 seats) on a new permeable
paver patio along the north central portion in the area of the existing green space and
impermeable patio on the tavern parcel. The neighboring parcel to the northeast is also owned
by the tavern owners and is not proposed to be used for the tavern outdoor seating. The new
permeable patio area will have a 4 ft high privacy fence as required by the NYS Liquor
Authority. We have also proposed to add a reinforced turf area in the Mason Street parking area
to maintain the existing approved permeability of the parcel. This modification is not requesting
to add any additional impervious areas. As part of this application we have also relocated the
dumpster enclosure to the northwest corner of the parcel which facilitates easier access for the
garbage truck access and does not require backing up into Mason Street when it leaves the
site. The current owners purchased this parcel in April 2018 and have not added any additional
hard surfaces. The current owners did remove an existing unapproved patio and stairway on the
south side of the parcel to facilitate installing an underground propane tank.
The Sans Souci Tavern acts as a gathering place for the neighborhood and is not a destination
restaurant per se. As a result, the customers are aware of the limited parking and make
arrangements to carpool or park strategically. In addition, only two employee vehicles are
allowed on site. The owners through the years have made arrangements with the adjacent
landowners for parking as well. The customers with smaller vehicles will at times double park
knowing that they will be notified to move their vehicle when a customer needs to leave. This is
system has been used for years and is know to the neighborhood customers. The tavern has a
maximum occupancy per the fire marshal of 105 seats. Currently there is 10 seats used in the
lower floor as a waiting area and the main floor has a seating of 55 seats. This application does
not increase seating capacity or require additional parking.
As the proposed modification does not add additional hard surfaces to the parcel, we would
request a waiver from stormwater management as this issue was addressed in the previous
modification with the previous owner.
Enclosed please find 15 copies of submission packages consisting of revised site plan
application and site plan. Thank you for your assistance with the project and please contact this
office if you have any questions or if you require additional information.
Best Regards,
Thomas Center Jr., P.E.
Associate – Design Engineer
Enclosures
Cc: 333 Cleverdale, LLC
ADJOINERS HOUSEWOODRETAININGWALLIPF INCONC.IPFIPFSANS SOUCIRESTAURANT1-1/2 STORYWOOD FRAMECRUSHED STONE AREA CRUSHED STONE AREA 1-1/2 STORYWOOD FRAMEHOUSEPORCHCRUSHED STONE30.53PORCH OVER BY 1.70'S06°33'00"W43.48'S00°31'00"W74.26'133.55'N86°14'05"WN11°34'30"E124.21'S83°19'30"E45.53'S83°36'30"E69.18'DECKGARAGEEX. PAVERSTIMBER RET. WALL9.2'GREEN SPACEPORCH 24.0520.25 105 EXISTING SEATSIRF18.2'±PORCH OVER BY 0.30'PORCH OVER BY 1.70'N06°33'00"E56.00'S83°19'30"E58.70'99.71'S00°31'00"W 3.0'±49.3'±3.1'±17.1'±EX. CRUSHED STONEGREEN SPACEPLANTINGGREEN SPACE TOTAL LOT AREA11,760.49 sfCRUSHED STONEWALKWAYDECK & STAIRSPLANTINGEX.GRASSED AREASPECIAL USE PLAN MODIFICATIONprepared for:333 CLEVERDALE, LLC333 Cleverdale RoadTown of Queensbury Warren County, NYLOCATION MAPTAX MAP NO. 226.12-1- 43MAP REFERENCESITE SETBACKS TAVERN PARCELSITE DEVELOPMENT DATA TAVERN PARCELHOLDING TANK SYSTEM DESIGNGRAPHIC SCALESITE PLANCall Before You DigWait The Required TimeConfirm Utility ResponseRespect The MarksDig With Care800-962-7962www.digsafelynewyork.comDigSafely.New YorkHutchins Engineering PLLCZONING REQUIREMENTSZONE - WRMINIMUM LOT SIZE - 2-ACREFRONT SETBACK - 30'SIDE SETBACKS - 20'REAR SETBACK - 30'LOT WIDTH - 150'ROAD FRONTAGE -150'MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT - 28'MINIMUM PERCENT PERMEABLE - 75%291656-01-S1FLOOR AREA RATIO - TAVERN PARCELPARCEL AREA = 11,760.49 SF22% ALLOWABLE F.A.R.ALLOWABLE FLOOR AREA = 2,587.3 SFEXISTING FLOOR AREA = 4,112 SFPARKING - TAVERN PARCEL105 SEATS ( MAX. CAPACITY PER FIRE MARSHAL) = 105 / 4 = 27 SPACES10 EMPLOYEES = 10 / 2 = 5 SPACESTOTAL SPACES REQUIRED = 32 SPACESTOTAL SPACES PROVIDED = 17 SPACESSEATING - TAVERN PARCEL105 SEATS ( MAX. CAPACITY PER FIRE MARSHAL)FIRST FLOOR WAITING AREA - 10 PEOPLESECOND FLOOR SEATING - 83 SEATS MAX.PATIO SEATING - 12 SEATS MAX.TRUEGRID REINFORCED TURFPERMEABLE PAVER PATIO DETAIL