12-15-2022 (Queensbury Planning Board 12/15/2022)
QUEENSBURYPLANNINGBOARD MEETING
SECOND REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 15 ,2022
INDEX
Site Plan No. 6S-2022 Faden Enterprises 1.
FURTHER TABLING Tax Map No.2SS.-1-5S
Site Plan No.76-2022 3 Sons and Holly LLC 2.
FURTHER TABLING Tax Map No.239.12-2-57
Site Plan No.75-2022 Loreen Harvey/Kasselman Solar 3.
WITHDRAWN Tax Map No.266.3-1-76.1
Subdivision No.12-2022 Paul Nasrani 3.
PRELIMINARY STAGE Tax Map No.2S9.15-1-47
FRESHWATER WETLANDS 17-2022
Site Plan No.77-2022 Adirondack Retirement Specialists 9.
Tax Map No. 302.E-1-16;302.E-1-17
Subdivision No.4-2022 Jeffrey&Joanne Mann 11.
PRELIMINARY STAGE Tax Map No.265.-1-23.2
FRESHWATER WETLANDS 6-2022
Subdivision No.15-2022
FINAL STAGE
Subdivision No.5-2022 Jeffrey&Joanne Mann 14.
PRELIMINARY STAGE Tax Map No.265.-1-23.1
FRESHWATER WETLANDS 7-2022
Subdivision No.14-2022
FINAL STAGE
THESE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY ADOPTED MINUTES AND ARE SUBJECT TO BOARD AND STAFF
REVISIONS. REVISIONS WILL APPEAR ON THE FOLLOWING MONTH'S MINUTES (IF ANY)
AND WILL STATE SUCH APPROVAL OF SAID MINUTES.
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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
SECOND REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 15TK,2022
7.00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
STEPHEN TRAVER,CHAIRMAN
DAVID DEEB,VICE CHAIRMAN
MICHAEL DIXON,SECRETARY
WARREN LONGACKER
BRADY STARK
BRAD MAGOWAN
NATHAN ETU
LAND USE PLANNER-LAURA MOORE
STENOGRAPHER-MARIA GAGLIARDI
MR.TRAVER-Good evening,ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Town of Queensbury Planning Board
meeting for Thursday,December 15,2022. This is our second meeting for the month of December and our
22 d meeting thus far for 2022. Please note the illuminated exit signs. In the event that we have an
emergency,those are the emergency exits. If you have a cell phone or other electronic device if you would
either turn it off or turn the ringer off so as not to interrupt our proceedings,we do appreciate it. And also
noting that the meetings are recorded and minutes transcribed. If you wish to have a conversation
amongst yourselves, other than during the public hearing, if you could please go out to the ante room to
have that discussion we would appreciate that and maintain silence in the room. With that we do have a
couple of administrative items this evening. First the Board wants to express our appreciation to Staff and
to Mark Schachner the Town Counsel for coming in in the feet of this storm this evening to provide us
some training from five o'clock on regarding some questions that we had on some recent matters. So we
appreciate that very much. Are we getting credit for that,Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Yes,you're getting credit.
MR. TRAVER-The next administrative item we have is Planning Board election of officers, and you might
recall last month the final meeting in November I had reported out that I had spoken with the current Vice
Chairman and Secretary who agreed to serve,willingness to serve another term,and I also have agreed to
be willing to serve another term. So with that,those officers are already a part of the nominating,but we
still will take nominations from the floor.
MR. DIXON-So already in nomination are existing officers who have agreed to serve another term. Are
there any other nominations from the floor for any position? All right. If not,nominations are closed.
RESOLUTION FOR NOMINATIONS FOR 2023 TOWN PLANNING BOARD OFFICERS
MOTION TO APPROVE SLATE OF PLANNING BOARD OFFICERS (FOR 2023), WHICH ARE
CHAIRMAN, STEPHEN TRAVER; VICE CHAIRMAN, DAVID DEEB; AND SECRETARY,
MICHAEL DIXON, Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption, seconded by Brad
Magowan:
Duly adopted this 15th day of December 2022,by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker, Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-The last administrative item we have this evening is Site Plan 65-2022 for Faden
Enterprises.
SP 68-2022 FADEN ENTERPRISES TABLE UNTIL JANUARY 24,2023
MR. TRAVER-They're requesting a tabling until January 24 of 2023. Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So this applicant is still working with the Army Corps in regards to the wetlands and
identifying,confirming its locations with their current mappings that they have done.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. I think we have a draft resolution.
RESOLUTION TABLING SP#65-2022 FADEN ENTERPRISES
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Applicant proposes removal of an existing building on the site to construct 3 new buildings and associated
site work. The project includes one building of 5,355 sq.ft.that is designated as 3 tenant spaces:2,000 sq.
ft. for a drive-thru, 2,500 sq. ft. for a restaurant, and 3,555 sq. ft. for retail space. The second and third
buildings will contain a total of 24 units of self-storage in 3,4SO sq.ft.Each building will be 1,740 sq.ft.and
have 12 units.Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040,179-10-040,&94,site plan for new commercial development
and self-storage facility,hard surfacing within 50 ft. of a shoreline/wetlands,freshwater wetlands permit,
and special use permit for self-storage facility shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN 68-2022,FRESHWATER WETLANDS 13-2022&z SPECIAL USE
PERMIT 6-2022 FADEN ENTERPRISES. Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Brady Stark.
Tabled until the January 24,2023 Planning Board meeting with information due by December 15,2022.
Duly adopted this 15`h day of December 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Dixon, Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-Next we move to our regular agenda. The first part of that agenda is Old Business,and the
first item is 3 Sons and Holly LLC. This is Site Plan 76-2022.
SITE PLAN NO.76-2022 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. 3 SONS AND HOLLY LLC. AGENT(S): STUDIO
A. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: WR. LOCATION: 28 HOLLY LANE.
APPLICANT PROPOSES ALTERATIONS TO AN EXISTING HOME AND SITE. THE PROJECT
INCLUDES A 416 SQ. FT. ADDITION TO AN EXISTING HOME WITH A 1,275 SQ. FT.
FOOTPRINT. THERE IS TO BE A NEW 72 SQ. FT. PORCH AND A NEW 200 SQ. FT. PORCH
WITH A NEW FLOOR AREA OF 3,225 SQ.FT. SITE WORK INCLUDES INSTALLATION OF AN
ON-GRADE PAVER PATIO AREA WITH STONE SLAB PATCH AND ENLARGING THE FIRE PIT
AREA. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS TO BE A RAINGARDEN AND SHORELINE PLANTINGS
ADDED TO THE SITE. THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE EXISTING 1,152 SQ. FT. FOOTPRINT
OF THE GARAGE AND LIVING SPACE. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040, 179-6-065, 147
AND 179-4-080, SITE PLAN FOR NEW FLOOR AREA IN A CEA, EXPANSION OF A NON-
CONFORMING STRUCTURE,AND HARD SURFACING WITHIN 50 FT. OF THE SHORELINE
SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE:
AV 63-2022. WARREN CO.REFERRAL: NOVEMBER 2022. SITE INFORMATION: CEA LOT
SIZE: .38 ACRE. TAX MAP NO.239.12-2-57. SECTION: 179-3-040,179-6-065,147,179-4-080.
MR. TRAVER-This application was to be re-heard this evening, but my understanding is that it's also
going to be tabled,Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Correct. The application,they're re-submitting some new information, and they plan to
have that by Monday, December 19`h, and they would like to be tabled to the second meeting because
they're pending ZBA review as well.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So that's the January 24,2023 meeting,and with that we'll also note that we'll open
the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MR. TRAVER-We'll keep it open pending their return.
RESOLUTION TABLING SP 76-2022 3 SONS&HOLLY LLC
(Revised) Applicant proposes alterations to an existing home and site. The project includes a 416 sq. ft.
addition to an existing home with a 1,275 sq. ft. footprint. There is to be a new 72 sq. ft.porch and a new
200 sq.ft.porch with a new floor area of 3,225 sq. ft.. Site work includes installation of an on-grade paver
patio area with stone slab path enlarging the fire pit area and reduction of hard surface is also proposed.
Additionally, there is to be a rain garden and shoreline plantings added to the site. There is no change to
the existing 1,152 sq.ft.floor area of the garage and living space. Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040,179-6-065,
147, and 179-4-OSO, site plan for new floor area in a CEA, expansion of a non-conforming structure, and
hard surfacing within 50 ft.of the shoreline shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN 76-2022 3 SONS AND HOLLY,LLC.. Introduced by Michael Dixon
who moved for its adoption,seconded by Brady Stark.
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Tabled until the January 24,2023 Planning Board meeting with information due by December 19,2022.
Duly adopted this 15`h day of December 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-The next application is Loreen Harvey,Kasselman Solar.
SITE PLAN NO. 75-2022 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. LOREEN HARVEY/KASSELMAN SOLAR.
AGENT(S): LOREEN HARVEY OWNER(S): RORY RUSSELL TRUST. ZONING: MDR.
LOCATION: 1516 RIDGE ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES A SOUTH FACING GROUND
MOUNTED SOLAR PROJECT FOR 2592 kW (54 PANELS), APPROXIMATELY 1,348 SQ. FT.
THE EXISTING 5,035 SQ. FT. HOME IS TO REMAIN UNCHANGED. THE PROJECT WILL BE
LOCATED ON THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE WHERE NO VEGETATION WILL BE REMOVED.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-5-140, SITE PLAN FOR A RESIDENTIAL GROUND MOUNTED
SOLAR PROJECT SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
CROSS REFERENCE: AV 60-2022. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: NOVEMBER 2022. SITE
INFORMATION: APA,LGPC. LOT SIZE: 6.1 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 266.3-1-76.1. SECTION:
179-5-140.
MR. TRAVER-It should be noted that this application has been withdrawn. So there will be no further
consideration of that application in its current form. The next item on our agenda, also under Old
Business,is Paul Nasrani. This is Subdivision Preliminary Stage 12-2022 and Freshwater Wetlands permit
17-2022.
OLD BUSINESS:
SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 12-2022 FRESHWATER WETLANDS 17-2022 SEQR
TYPE: UNLISTED. PAUL NASRANI. AGENT(S): JARRETT ENGINEERS. O WNER(S): PAUL
NASRANI, ENVAR MIR. ZONING: MDR. LOCATION: 790 BAY ROAD. APPLICANT
PROPOSES A 3 LOT SUBDIVISION OF A 6.29 ACRE PARCEL. LOT 1 WILL BE 2.13 ACRES WITH
HOUSE,LOT 2 WILL BE 2.08 ACRES AND LOT 3 WOULD BE 2.27 ACRES. TWO NEW HOUSES
TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE REMAINING LOTS. THE PROJECT INCLUDES A NEW
SHARED DRIVEWAY FOR THE SECOND AND THIRD LOTS. THE NEW SITES WILL HAVE
ON-SITE SEPTIC AND CONNECT TO THE EXISTING MUNICIPAL WATER. PURSUANT TO
CHAPTER 183,179-3-040 AND 94,SUBDIVISION OF 3 LOTS AND SITE WORK WITHIN 100 FT.
OF FRESHWATER WETLANDS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND
APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: SUB (S) 14-2021,AV 54-2022. WARREN CO. REFERRAL:
N/A. SITE INFORMATION: TRAVEL CORRIDOR, WETLANDS. LOT SIZE: 6.29 ACRES.
TAX MAP NO. 289.15-1-47. SECTION: 183,179-3-040,94,179-4-010.
TOM JARRETT, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOO RE-So this application is a three lot subdivision of 6.45 acres. Lot One to be 2.13 acres with a
house. Lot Two will be 2.OS acres and Lot Three to be 2.27 acres with two new houses to be constructed
on the remaining lots. The project includes new shared driveway for the second and third lot,and then in
regards to the variance being requested, they were granted their variances last evening, December 14`h of
2022,and in my Staff Notes,please note it's only part of Preliminary Stage and the Freshwater Wetlands,
not Final.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MR. JARRETT-Good evening. Tom Jarrett of Jarrett Engineers. Updating you on last night's ZBA
meeting,several neighbors spoke and they were concerned about traffic on Bay Road. My client has agreed
to support whatever actions the Town of Queensbury takes to reduce speed limits on that road to improve
traffic, but there's not much I can do with regards to this project to address traffic on Bay Road. One
neighbor next door suggested that the driveway design should be reviewed to make sure that it complies
with the County standard, specifically the slope coming off Bay Road. I believe it complies,but I am in
the process of reviewing that and will update if need be before Final,and one member of the ZBA brought
up emergency access and turnaround capability at the homes, and I agreed to put a note on the drawings
that the driveway configuration should be reviewed by the Fire Marshal at the time of home construction.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
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MR.JARRETT-So from there I think we can continue our discussion from Tuesday night.
MR. TRAVER-Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. DEEB-Do you have a fire hydrant?
MR.JARRETT-We actually, we're putting a new fire hydrant at the end of our common drive, which is
some three,four hundred feet into the project near the split where the driveways go off to each individual
home. So it will greatly facilitate firefighting we believe.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. MAGOWAN-With the curb cut,will you be notifying Warren County?
MR.JARRETT-I've already been in touch with Warren County.
MR. MAGOWAN-Okay.
MR. DIXON-Out of curiosity, do you know, where is the next closest fire plug? I know where you're
putting yours.
MR.JARRETT-It's not that faraway. It's off Bay and down just a few feet I believe. I think I might have,
no, I don't have a picture of it. It's not that far from the entrance. I suspected firefighting would bean
issue,and I thought,we have to run a water line into the houses anyway,if I increase the size,put a hydrant
on it,it really helps everybody. Probably helps their insurance.
MR. TRAVER-Yes.
MR. DIXON-I think that's a benefit. Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-And just to reiterate what you had said before as well. We have no authority to adjust
highway speed. That's a County,I believe it's a County road.
MR.JARRETT-It's a County road. I think the ZBA was going to take up another,a separate resolution to
send to the Town Board.
MR. TRAVER-For a recommendation.
MR.JARRETT-For a recommendation. Do you recall that?
MRS. MOORE-They did do that.
MR.JARRETT-They did do that?
MR. DIXON-Did you say that there was record at one point that there was a driveway there?
MR.JARRETT-There was a driveway there. I think it's in the County record. The owner reports the
neighbors even acknowledge that there was a driveway there. There's remnants there now,little bits and
pieces of old asphalt.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. We do have a public hearing on this application as well. Is there anyone in the
audience that wanted to address the Planning Board on this? Yes,sir.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
NICK CAIMANO
MR. CAIMANO-My name is Nick Caimano, C-a-i-m-a-n-o. I am a friend of his because he is one of the
best in the business. My concern,though,Mr. Chairman,and you lead me right into it,and that's the fact
that nobody has any rights on the speed limits.
MR. TRAVER-Actually that's not true. The County does.
MR. CAIMANO-I know that. I was a County officer for 16 years, and I know that. However, no one's
doing anything and what's happening is every time we do something,as small as it might be on this one or
as big as Fowler's Square, it just gets worse. First you've got from Tee Hill down past the College. It's
just too fast. It's too fast and there's so many seniors of one form or another that are there. Secondly you
guys did a good job. I like Fowler's Square,but somehow, and I used to work on that Board, I know that
you guys went out and walked,if you go down Blind Rock Road and you go past Hunterbrook,if you come
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from Country Club,come this way at 40 miles an hour,which nobody drives,you come around the curve
where there's a school bus turn. There is the house, I can't remember her name, but there's a house
driveway there,they put up a,there's a driveway there. Hunterbrook's driveway is there. It's on a curve.
MR. TRAVER-I hear what you're saying,but I'm not sure what it has to do with this application.
MR. CAIMANO-What I want you to do,it doesn't. It's an opening. I'm hoping that you,Mr. Chairman,
and the Chairman of the Town Board,not the Town Board,the Town Superintendent,the Chairman of the
Zoning Board and the County will get together, even on this one, as simple as it is, and make sure that in
the SEQR,Number One in this part of the world,in Queensbury,speed,speed and traffic,it has come to a
point where we can't take it anymore and we're going to start killing people. I'm asking you to do that.
MR. TRAVER-I appreciate your concern.
MR. CAIMANO-Thank you. Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-Is there anyone else in the audience that wanted to address the Planning Board? Yes,sir.
BRIAN BURNS
MR. BURNS-My name is Brian Burns. I'm the house right next door to the property that's being
investigated here. I have several questions. Number One, obviously about the traffic because since I've
been living in this house for about 11 years there've been several accidents, quite a few accidents, and one
of them took out a telephone pole right in front of my house, and it is getting a little crazy. Now they're
adding another driveway that's going to make another potential for accidents. That's one. Another
question is on the waterline that they have coming down on so called my buffer zone on my property,they
have a waterline between my buffer zone, a six inch water main coming down that they're saying they're
going to put in,and Cod forbid this water main breaks,where is the water going to go? Is it going to go on
my property or is it going to go on their property? Why is it in the middle of the buffer zone?
MR. TRAVER-That's a big hypothetical I'm afraid.
MR.BURNS-What do you mean?
MR. DEEB-That has nothing to do with this application.
MR. TRAVER-Yes.
MR.BURNS-But it's happening next to my property.
MR. DEEB-Yes, but what I'm saying is, what you're talking about, the water line, we can't do anything
about that.
MR.BURNS-Well why is it in between the buffer zone?
MR. DEEB-We can't answer that. That's not for us to answer.
MR.BURNS-You're approving this. Why is it there?
MR. DEEB-Again,we can't answer that.
MRS. MOORE-That water line will be reviewed in response to the connection part with our Water
Department,and then in regards to the buffer zone,I'm not quite certain what that means because there's
only a setback distance requirement for the house. There is not a buffer requirement for location of water
lines and things like that. So you may call it a buffer zone. It's the applicant's property where that line is
being indicated.
MR. TRAVER-Sir,we can also ask the applicant to elaborate.
MR. DEE&We'll get to the bottom of it.
MR. BURNS-And then Number Two, where are the stake lines? They're not pronounced whatsoever.
There's no stakes out there whatsoever. Where are the property lines?
MR. TRAVER-The property lines. Okay. We can ask about that.
MR.BURNS-There's no stakes out there whatsoever where they are.
MR. TRAVER-And does that border your property?
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MR. BURNS-Yes, it does. And Number Three,the septic system for the original house that's there now,
nobody,last night it was said that nobody knows where the tank is. They have no idea where this tank
is. So when was the last time this septic system was even cleaned out, or serviced? And second thing
there should be two septic system because,Number One,there's an upper septic system and there's a septic
system in the basement,which obviously nobody knows where that is.
MR. TRAVER-We can ask about that as well.
MR. BURNS-And then how big are these houses going to be? Are they three bedrooms? Are they two
bedrooms?
MR. TRAVER-We can get that information from the applicant.
MR. BURNS-And the fire turnaround has been asked about tonight,too, and how long has this driveway
been grandfathered? They said that was grandfathered.
MR. TRAVER-That I don't know. We can ask about that. I don't have that information in front of me.
That's not part of the application per se.
MR.BURNS-Okay. All right well these are my questions I need to have some answers on them. If you're
going to approve this application tonight,I want some answers.
MR. TRAVER-Some of the questions you have are not relevant to our review.
MR.BURNS-Well this is what they were saying to me last night. Nothing's relevant.
MR. TRAVER-I'm not saying nothing is relevant. It's interesting information and we can inquire about
some of those so that we can have answers for you if we can. That's a different thing than saying our
decision rests on whether you get answers your answers or not. That's very different.
MR.BURNS-So basically what you're saying is I have no say.
MR. DEEB-No,no. You want answers to your questions. I understand that. I would say we could direct
you to where you should ask your questions so that you can get the answers you need. We aren't really,
we don't have the answers to some of those questions.
MR. TRAVER-The applicant's representative will have the answers to many of them probably.
MR.BURNS-So are you going to approve this thing tonight?
MR. TRAVER-That decision has not been made yet.
MR.BURNS-So if you don't have these answers,how can it be approved?
MR. TRAVER-As I said,not all the questions you have require answers prior to approval. I can see how
you would like them to be so,but that is a different standard than the standard for the Planning Board for
the Town of Queensbury.
MR.BURNS-Okay.
MR. DEEB-I'm sorry we couldn't get what you needed,but we do the best we can.
MR. TRAVER-Well let's find out what we can get.
MR.BURNS-Okay. I would appreciate that very much. Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-Is there anyone else in the audience that wanted to address the Planning Board on this
application? Laura,do you know if there are any written comments?
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-So we will close the public hearing and ask the applicant to come back to the table.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR.JARRETT-I'll try to speak loudly.
MR. TRAVER-So there was a question about how long has the driveway been there?
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MR.JARRETT-I don't know if it's officially grandfathered. I believe that it's in the County records. There
is an old driveway there. There are remnants of it that I've seen. I don't know if it's officially grandfathered
or not.
MR. TRAVER-That information would be available in the County records,though.
MR.JARRETT-We're checking on that right now,but I know there are remnants of an old driveway there
and the owner is adamant that there was a driveway there and the neighbors have acknowledged it, too.
There is no formal buffer between these two properties that I've witnessed. The reason we put the
waterline on the north side is because our stormwater management is on the south side, the south edge.
So we didn't want to put the waterline directly under the stormwater swale.
MR. TRAVER-And is the border between the properties demarcated?
MR.JARRETT-Yes,right here. This is the border.
MR. TRAVER-In the field?
MR.JARRETT-Not yet,no. That has to be done as part of the subdivision process.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR.JARRETT-Once the lots are platted and approved by you,they're staked.
MR. TRAVER-And this is Preliminary,not Final approval.
MR.JARRE TT-Correct.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. JARRETT-That's correct. Now the reason the septic system came up is that the Zoning Board
questioned why we put the entrance here. Well there's two reasons. One is that this is an old driveway
and Number Two, when I tried to see if we could combine all three houses on one driveway, the owner
advised me that there are septic systems in here that he doesn't know exactly where the leach fields are
and it was very problematic. So he said don't do that. Use the old driveway. So we did.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR.JARRETT-Was there another question?
MR. MAGOWAN-How big are the houses?
MR.JARRE TT-Don't know yet. We've shown,I think,1S00 square feet,Laura? I don't remember.
MR. MAGOWAN-One of them says 2100.
MR.JARRETT-Is that with garage?
MR. MAGOWAN-Total proposed 2100 square feet,new residence, and then the other one says 3100.
MR.JARRETT-Theyshould be the same. We did the same template. They're both 1500 plus 600,no,2100
total gross.
MR. DEEB-With the garage.
MR.JARRETT-With garage. Fifteen hundred square foot is a large house if you put two stories in,but
it's not an overly large footprint.
MR. MAGOWAN-All right. You'll have to change that on C-3 there. Because it does say 3100.
MR. TRAVER-When you come back for Final. Okay. Anything else in response to public comment that
you heard?
MR.JARRETT-I don't recall anything.
MR. TRAVER-Questions,comments from members of the Board?
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MR. DIXON-I know I heard two comments regarding traffic and we were very clear that that's not in our
purview at all,and the recommendation is really to get that to the County. Now,citizens as well,residents,
I would encourage you to reach out to the County as well and I don't know much of what we can do on
that. I know we are trying to mitigate somethings by having one curb cut versus two driveways out there.
That's an important piece. I just wanted to re-state that for the record.
MR. JARRETT-The Town Code and Comprehensive Plan suggests common driveways in this travel
corridor and that's what we've done.
MR. DEEB-They want fewer curb cuts.
MR.JARRETT-Fewer curb cuts,exactly.
MR. TRAVER-All right. So this is for Preliminary Stage. So you'll be back for Final. Laura,are we doing
SEQR tonight? All right. So we also have a SEQR review on this application.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGAT. SEQR. DEC. SUB#12-2022 FWW#17-2022 PAUL NASRANI
The applicant proposes a 3 lot subdivision of a 6AS acre parcel. Lot 1 will be 2.13 acres with house,lot 2
will be 2.OS acres and lot 3 would be 2.27 acres. Two new houses to be constructed on the remaining lots.
The project includes a new shared driveway for the second and third lots. The new sites will have onsite
septic and connect to the existing municipal water.Pursuant to chapter IS3,179-3-040 and 94,subdivision
of 3 lots and site work within 100 ft.of freshwater wetlands shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to
review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations
of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Long EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Part 2 of the Long EAF has been reviewed by the Planning Board;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of Queensbury
Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse impacts on the
environment,and,therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be prepared. Accordingly,this
negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY 12-2022
&z FRESHWATER WETLANDS 17-2022 PAUL NASRANI,Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved
for its adoption,
As per the resolution prepared by staff.
1. Part II of the Long EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Long EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify potentially
moderate to large impacts.
Motion seconded by Warren Longacker. Duly adopted this 15`h day of December 2022 by the following
vote:
AYES: Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan, Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-And next we consider Preliminary Stage subdivision.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SUB#12-2022 PRELIM. STG. PAUL NASRANI
A subdivision application has been made to the Queensbury Planning Board for the following: Applicant
proposes a 3 lot subdivision of a 6A S acre parcel.Lot 1 will be 2.13 acres with house,lot 2 will be 2.08 acres
and lot 3 would be 2.27 acres. Two new houses to be constructed on the remaining lots. The project
includes a new shared driveway for the second and third lots. The new sites will have onsite septic and
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connect to the existing municipal water. Pursuant to chapter IS3, 179-3-040 and 94, subdivision of 3 lots
and site work within 100 ft.of freshwater wetlands shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter A-1S3,the Planning Board
has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
The requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been considered and the Planning
Board has adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration
A public hearing was scheduled and held on December 15,2022;
This application is supported with all documentation,public comment,and application material in the file
of record;
MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 12-2022 &z FRESHWATER
WETLANDS 17-2022 PAUL NASRANI,Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption.
Motion seconded by Brady Stark. Duly adopted this 15`h day of December 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You're all set for Preliminary.
MR.JARRETT-Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-We'll see you back at Final. The next item on our agenda is Adirondack Retirement
Specialists. This is Site Plan 77-2022.
SITE PLAN NO.77-2022 SEQR TYPE: TYPE 11. ADIRONDACK RETIREMENT SPECIALISTS.
AGENT(S): RUCINSKI HALL ARCHITECTURE. ZONING: CI. LOCATION: 310 BAY ROAD.
APPLICANT PROPOSES TO COMPLETE ACCESS RENOVATIONS AND OTHER ALTERATIONS
TO AN EXISTING TWO STORY BUILDING. THE PLANS INDICATE THAT THERE ARE TWO
SOUTH SIDE ENTRY PORCHES TO BE RENOVATED, A NEW ENTRYWAY TO BE CREATED
ON THE NORTH SIDE AND A RENOVATION OF THE WEST SIDE FIRST STORY AREA. THE
BUILDING WILL MAINTAIN A 3,215 SQ. FT. FOOTPRINT. THE EXISTING PORCH AREAS TO
BE IMPROVED WITH 360 SQ.FT. OF NEW PORCH AREAS. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-
040,SITE PLAN FOR ALTERATIONS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION TO A BUILDING IN THE CI
ZONE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS
REFERENCE: SP 62-99,SP 57-92,AV 136-1992,AP 31-94,SP 4-96,AV 64-2022. WARREN CO.
REFERRAL: DECEMBER 2022. SITE INFORMATION: TRAVEL CORRIDOR. LOT SIZE: 0.93
ACRE,0.15 ACRE. TAX MAP NO. 302.8-1-16,302.8-1-17. SECTION 179-3-040.
ETHAN HALL, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS.MOORE-So this application to complete access renovations and other alterations to an existing two
story building. The plan indicates there are two south side entry porches to be renovated,a new entry area
to be created on the north side and a renovation of the west side first story area. Last night at the Zoning
Board of Appeals the setback relief was granted.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. So here we are again with a pre-existing, non-conforming property
that needed variances. Right?
MR. HALL-Correct. Good evening. For your record, Ethan Hall, principle with Rucinski-Hall
Architecture,representing Adirondack Retirement Specialists. Last night we were at the Zoning Board.
They granted us the area variance we were looking for for the re-construction of the two porches and the
construction of the new porch on the north side of the building. I have had discussion with the owner
since our initial meeting here. They know that the exterior lighting is an issue. The new porches will have
recessed canned lights that are just down lit and all the existing cobra heads that are out on the corners of
the building will be replaced with down lights.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR.HALL-So I have explained to them about that. Otherwise that's about it.
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MR. TRAVER-And no changes to your proposal from your chat with the Zoning Board?
MR.HALL-No, absolutely.
MR. TRAVER-Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. DEEB-It's pretty straightforward.
MR. TRAVER-We do have a public hearing on this application. Is there anyone in the audience that
wanted to address the Planning Board on Adirondack Retirement Specialists? I'm not seeing any. Laura's
checking for written comments.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. We'll go ahead and close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-If there's no other questions,we can entertain that motion.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP#77-2022 ADIRONDACK RETIREMENT SPECIALISTS
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board:Applicant proposes to complete access
renovations and other alterations to an existing two story building. The plans indicate that there are two
South side entry porches to be renovated,a new entryway to be created on the North side and a renovation
of the West side first story area. The building will maintain a 3,215 sq. ft. footprint. The existing porch
areas to be improved with 360 sq. ft. of new porch areas. Pursuant to chapter 179-3-040, site plan for
alterations and new construction to a building in the CI zone shall be subject to Planning Board review
and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-OSO, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board made a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals on 12/13/2022-1 the ZBA
approved the variance requests on 12/14/2022-1
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 12/15/2022 and continued the
public hearing to 12/15/2022,when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 12/15/2022;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 77-2022 ADIRONDACK RETIREMENT SPECIALISTS,-
Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted:g.site lighting,h.signage,j.stormwater,k.topography,1.landscaping,
n traffic, o. commercial alterations/ construction details, p floor plans, q. soil logs, r.
construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal reasonable to request a waiver as these items
are typically associated with commercial projects;
2) The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired.
3) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff,
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval,permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
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d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required,the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity"prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
Motion seconded by Brady Stark. Duly adopted this 15`h day of December 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You're all set.
MR.HALL-Thank you very much. I appreciate your time.
MR.TRAVER-The next section of our agenda is New Business,and the first item is Jeffrey&r Joann Mann.
This is a three lot subdivision for Preliminary,Final and Freshwater Wetlands permit 6-2022.
NEW BUSINESS:
SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY 4-2022 SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE 15-2022 FRESHWATER
WETLANDS 6-2022 SEQR TYPE: UNLISTED (APA). JEFFREY&z JOANNE MANN (3 LOT).
AGENT(S): HUTCHINS ENGINEERING. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING:
RR3. LOCATION: 76 PICKLE HILL ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES A 3 LOT SUBDIVISION OF
A 17.1 ACRE PARCEL FOR PRELIMINARY AND FINAL STAGE. THE LOT SIZES ARE: LOT 6
TO BE 3.84 ACRES, LOT 7 TO BE 4.1 ACRE AND LOT 8 TO BE 9.2 ACRES. LOT 8 CONTAINS
ACCESS TO PICKLE HILL ROAD INCLUDING EASEMENTS FOR SHARED ACCESS TO PICKLE
HILL ROAD FOR LOTS 6 AND 7. THE PROJECT CONTAINS APA WETLANDS,STREAM AND
SLOPE GREATER THAN 20%. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 183 AND CHAPTER 94 SUBDIVISION
FOR 3 LOTS, WETLAND PERMIT AND WORK WITHIN 100 FT. OF WETLANDS SHALL BE
SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. AND WETLANDS WORK SHALL
BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: AV 19-
2022. WARREN CO.REFERRAL: N/A FOR SUBDIVISION. SITE INFORMATION: APA. LOT
SIZE: 17.49 ACRES. TAX MAP NO.265.-1-23.2. SECTION: 183,CHAPTER 94.
LUCAS DOBIE,REPRESENTING APPLICANTS,PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So this application is a 3-lot residential subdivision of 17.1 acres,broken down into Lot 6
of 3.S acres; Lot 7 of 4.1; and Lot S of 9.2 acres. Lot S contains access to Pickle Hill Road, including
easements for shared access to Pickle Hill Road for Lot 6 and 7. I noted on the Staff Notes that the variance
that was looked at earlier in the summer, was granted on July 27`h,2022 in reference to stormwater devices
as well as vertical separation distance and road frontage relief for some of the lots.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
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MR.DOBIE-Thank you,Mr.Chairman. Good evening,Board. For the record Lucas Dobie with Hutchins
Engineering the design engineer of record for the project. We've been before you I believe twice
representing my clients Jeff and Joanne Mann who've owned the property for over 20 years now and he's
approaching his retirement age so they're trying to get the subdivision going so they can sell lots and that's
his retirement essentially. So we were here in November of 2020 originally looking at the westerly lands
as a sketch plan. We've done a lot of work since then with the Adirondack Park Agency,several rounds of
revisions, and then we were last before you in May of this year for our preliminary review. We discussed
it quite at length and you made recommendation to the Zoning Board. Went to the Zoning Board in May.
They asked us to make some revisions to the relief requested for the stormwater. So we re-grouped and
we were approved by the Zoning Board in July. So since then we've put a tremendous amount of effort
into fully detailing the plans. So we're talking about the flag lot to the east,the three lots,Lots Six, Seven
and Eight, with a shared driveway and the rear lots are landlocked from Pickle Hill Road. So we'll have
an access easement over Lot Six which will retain the shared driveway and again we've done several rounds
of revisions with the Adirondack Park Agency which they have,it's a Class A Regional project because of
the wetlands. So they have the ultimate jurisdiction,but we need your approval also to go forward with
them. So again we put a ton of effort into this. We're comfortable with the design, and I'd be happy to
answer any questions. We're here to ask for the Preliminary Stage approval and the SEQR,which we left
open from May,and also if the Board's comfortable with our work and answering the questions,we're here
to ask for Final. Thank you for your time tonight,Board.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MRS.MOO RE-So in regards to SEQR,I'll just speak up. We're going to defer to the APA's review process
and their environmental review process at this time. Because it's a Class A Regional project. So there is
no SEQR requirement for this Board. If it changes I'll let you know,but right now that's the way we're
going to proceed.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. I know a lot of homework has gone into this.
MR. DEEB-They've put quite a bit of effort into it over the past few years.
MR.TRAVER-Yes. So I'll open it up for questions,comments from members of the Board. This is for the
three lot subdivision. We have another one coming up. I mean we've talked about it quite a bit.
MR. MAGOWAN-Three lots,Six, Seven and Eight. Right?
MR.JARRETT-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-There is a public hearing on this application as well. Is there anyone in the audience that
wanted to address the Planning Board on Jeffrey and Joanne Mann, for the three lot subdivision? Yes,
ma'am.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
LIZBETH SWEENEY
MS. SWEENEY-Hi, everybody. My name is Lizbeth Sweeney and I live on a property that's adjacent to
Lot Eight and I wanted to say,in reviewing the submittal it's extremely comprehensive and I want to give
the Manns credit for the efforts that they put into this. My biggest question right now is,if you're deferring
to the APA on the SEQR, when does that decision come and how does that affect your decision going
forward with your approval tonight on the actual zoning?
MR. TRAVER-Sure. Well the SEQR is the State Environmental Quality Review Act, and with the
Adirondack Park Agency managing that aspect of the application,we have no involvement with that. So
that is something that they are handling. They do need to review it and they do need to have a SEQR
negative declaration,in other words no significant environmental impacts as determined by the evaluating
agency,in this case the APA,before the project can go forward.
MS. SWEENEY-So then I guess my question is,what are you approving here tonight?
MR. TRAVER-Everything else.
MS. SWEENEY-Everything else. What if they come back with concerns?
MR.DEEB-If the APA comes back with concerns,then we'd have to look at it again,but we have,it comes
to us first,and then it goes to the APA. So we have to act on it now,and then the APA. We've got several
layers.
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MS. SWEENEY-Okay,but I do want to say it's very comprehensive,the stormwater management plan,it
meets everything it needs to meet. I'm excited for it.
MR. TRAVER-They did their homework.
MR. DEEB-They did their homework.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you very much. Laura,are there any written comments?
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-So we will close the public hearing on this application. There is no other public comment.
So we can close the public hearing on this application
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR.TRAVER-Board members feel comfortable going forward? Are there any follow-up questions on this.
I know we've seen this before. All right. So we have three components to this process for this three lot
subdivision. The first is we have a motion for Preliminary Stage. This is for 4-2022.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SUB PRELIMINARY STAGE 4-2022 JEFFREY&r JOANNE MANN
A subdivision application has been made to the Queensbury Planning Board for the following: Applicant
proposes a 3 lot residential subdivision of a 17.1 acre parcel for preliminary and final stage. The lot sizes are:
Lot 6 to be 3.S4 acres,lot 7 to be 4.1 acres,and lot S to be 9.2 acres.Lot S contains access to Pickle Hill Road
including easements for shared access to Pickle Hill Road for lots 6 and 7. The project site contains APA
wetlands, stream, and slopes greater than 200/o. Pursuant to chapter 1S3 and chapter 94, subdivision for 3
lots, wetland permit and work within 100 ft. of wetlands shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter A-1S3,the Planning Board
has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
The requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been considered and the Planning
Board has adopted a SEQRA Negative/Positive Declaration
A public hearing was scheduled and held on December 15,2022;
This application is supported with all documentation,public comment,and application material in the file
of record;
MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 4-2022 &z FRESHWATER
WETLANDS 6-2022 JEFFREY&z JOANNE MANN,Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its
adoption.
Motion seconded by David Deeb. Duly adopted this 15`h day of December 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon, Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-Is the Board comfortable moving ahead with Final?
MR. DEEB-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MRS. MOORE-So just so you know that Number One item should be removed. The Number One item
on that approval for Final needs to be removed. I didn't catch it.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SUB FINAL STAGE 15-2022 JEFFREY&r JOANN MANN
A subdivision application has been made to the Queensbury Planning Board for the following:Applicant
proposes a 3 lot residential subdivision of a 17.1 acre parcel for preliminary and final stage. The lot sizes are:
Lot 6 to be 3.S4 acres,lot 7 to be 4.1 acres,and lot S to be 9.2 acres.Lot S contains access to Pickle Hill Road
including easements for shared access to Pickle Hill Road for lots 6 and 7. The project site contains APA
wetlands, stream, and slopes greater than 200/o. Pursuant to chapter 1S3 and chapter 94, subdivision for 3
lots, wetland permit and work within 100 ft. of wetlands shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
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Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter A-1S3,the Planning Board
has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
This application is supported with all documentation,public comment,and application material in the file
of record;
MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE 15-2022 JEFFREY &z JOANNE MANN (3
LOTI Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption.
i. The r-equifements of the State Ei-A4-omnentldl Quality Review Aet have been eonsidefed and the
Planning -Boafcl has eonsidefed, and the pr-oposed mochfieation[s] do not fesult in any new of modifieation, the fequifements of the State Ei-A4fomnei-Aal Quality Review Aet have been
b
2. Waiver requests granted:
3. The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired if you have not
yet applied for a building permit or commenced significant site work.
4. The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall be
installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff
5. Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of Planning Board Chairman.
6. The applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a) The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit or for coverage under an individual SPDES prior to the start of aU site
work.
b) The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project; and
7. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
a) The approved final that have been stamped by the Town Zoning Administrator.
These plans must include the project SWPPP(Storm Water Pollution Prevention
Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved; and
b) The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project.
S. Final approved plans,in compliance with the Subdivision,must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel.
9. The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit and/or
the beginning of any site work.
10. Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
It. As-built plans to certify that the subdivision is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy;
12. Resolutions must be included on Final Subdivision mylar;
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 15`h day of December 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan, Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY 5-2022 FINAL STAGE 14-2022 FRESHWATER WETLANDS 7-
2022 SEQR TYPE: UNLISTED (APA). JEFFREY&z JOANNE MANN. AGENT(S): HUTCHINS
ENGINEERING. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: RR-3A. LOCATION: BAY
ROAD AND PICKLE HILL ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES A 5 LOT RESIDENTIAL
SUBDIVISION OF A 35.23 AC. PARCEL FOR PRELIMINARY AND FINAL STAGE. THE LOTS
WOULD BE DIVIDED AS FOLLOWS: LOT 1 TO BE 6.37 ACRES, LOT 2 AT 596 ACRES, LOT 3
TO BE 7.21 ACRES,LOT 4 TO BE 3.63 ACRES WITH ACCESS THROUGH LOT 3.,LOT 5 AT 11.57
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ACRES. LOT 4 CONTAINS AN EXISTING BARN AND SHED THAT WILL REMAIN. PROJECT
SITE WORK CONTAINS APA WETLAND AREAS. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 183 AND
CHAPTER 94 SUBDIVISION OF 5 LOTS,AND WETLANDS PERMIT FOR SITE WORK WITHIN
100 FT.OF WETLANDS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
CROSS REFERENCE: SUB (S) 14-2020, AV 18-2022. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A FOR
SUBDIVISION. SITE INFORMATION: APA. LOT SIZE: 34.5 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 265.-1-
23.1. SECTION: 183,CHAPTER 94.
LUCAS DOBIE,REPRESENTING APPLICANTS,PRESENT
MRS.MOORE-This application is a five lot residential subdivision of 34.74 acres for Preliminary and Final.
The lots are divided as follows. Lot One to be 6.37 acres;Lot Two at 5.96 acres;Lot Three at 7.21 acres;Lot
Four to be 3.63 acres with access to Lot Three. Lot Five at 11.57 acres. Lot Four contains an existing barn
and shed that will remain and the variance also was granted on July 27`h,2022.
MR.TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. So here we go with the five lot,similar story in terms of your homework
and development I assume.
MR. DOBIE-Yes. Again, thank you, Mr. Chairman and Board, Lucas Dobie with Hutchins Engineering,
engineer of record, representing Jeff &Joanne Mann for his parcel, tax parcel 23.1, the westerly lands.
Parcel 23.3 used to be their home which kind of divides the two projects. They sold that two or three years
ago. Sothis is the farm fields which is Lots One and Two, beautiful, beautiful lots. Everything's wide
open, great soils, easy going. Lots Three and Four we're dealing with a stream crossing on Three,which
we're comfortable with the location of that,worked it out, and then Lot Four,just for total clarity for the
Board,that lot is going to be accessed from Bay Road. We're giving up on grading the road out to Pickle
Hill Road. Just the terrain is a little bit wet to the east of it and we don't want to have any impact to
wetlands over there. So we're going to go back to how we had it during our Sketch phase coming off of
Bay Road by the little white garage. I walked that extensively today. I'm comfortable that there's no
wetland impacts there, and Lot Five is the mountain lot and again we've put a ton of effort into especially
that lot to orient the road to balance our cuts and fills as best we can. We were last here in May,and we've
had two rounds with the Zoning Board. We got our variances just like the other project. We worked
them concurrently,and we're working them through the Adirondack Park Agency. They look at it as one
comprehensive project where the Town looks at it as two,and interestingly,just for the record,Lot Five is
not jurisdictional to the Adirondack Park Agency. I don't know how they can split up jurisdiction,but
that's how it is. So Lot Five review is specifically to the Town. So I don't know if that affects SEQR at all.
Just want to cross all our T's and dot all our I's, so nothing comes back on us. With that I'd be happy to
answer any questions the Board may have. Again,we're at our Preliminary open stage. We'd like to get
our approvals for that, and if the Board's comfortable, we'd like to get Final approval and we'll keep
working through the Park Agency. Thank you for your time.
MR. TRAVER-Questions,comments from members of the Board?
MR. DIXON-Well you bring up an interesting question,though. If it's not in the APA review.
MR. DEER We have to do SEQR for that,for just Lot Five.
MR. DIXON-Okay. All right.
MRS. MOORE-So I would also suggest adding the note,you have Preliminary Stage. So you're going to
do SEQR prior to Preliminary Stage for Lot Five,then your Preliminary Stage,and in the Preliminary Stage
note that Lot Four is to be accessed from Bay Road,not Pickle Hill,plans to be updated on Final.
MR.TRAVER-Okay. There's a public hearing on this application as well. Is there anyone in the audience
who wanted to address the Planning Board on this application? I'm not seeing any takers. Are there
written comments,Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then with that we'll close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-And we're going to perform the SEQR action for one Lot Five.
MR. DIXON-Correct.
MRS. MOORE-I didn't have a SEQR resolution for that.
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RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC. LOT 5 SUB PRELIM STG. 5-2022 MANN
The applicant proposes a 5 lot residential subdivision of a 34.74 acre parcel for preliminary and final stage.
The lots would be divided as follows:Lot 1 to be 6.37 acres,lot 2 at 5.96 acres,lot 3 to be 7.21 acres,lot 4 to
be 3.63 acres with access to Bay Road,and lot 5 at 11.57 acres.Lot 4 contains an existing barn and shed that
will remain. Project site work contains APA wetland areas. Pursuant to Chapter 1S3 and Chapter 94,
subdivision of 5 lots, and wetlands permit for site work within 100 ft. of wetlands shall be subject to
Planning Board review and approval. Lot 5 is the only lot that does not fall under the APA jurisdiction.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is subject to
review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the regulations
of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Long EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Part 2 of the Long EAF has been reviewed by the Planning Board;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of Queensbury
Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse impacts on the
environment,and,therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be prepared. Accordingly,this
negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY 5-2022
&z FRESHWATER WETLANDS 7-2022 JEFFREY &z JOANNE MANN FOR LOT NUMBER 5,
Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,
As per the resolution prepared by staff.
1. Part II of the Long EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Long EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify potentially
moderate to large impacts.
Motion seconded by Warren Longacker. Duly adopted this 15`h day of December 2022 by the following
vote:
AYES: Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan,Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-Next we consider Subdivision Preliminary Stage 5-2022.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SUB PRELIMINARY STAGE 5-2022 JEFFREY&r JOANNE MANN
A subdivision application has been made to the Queensbury Planning Board for the following:Applicant
proposes a 5 lot residential subdivision of a 34.74 acre parcel for preliminary and final stage. The lots would
be divided as follows: Lot 1 to be 6.37 acres,lot 2 at 5.96 acres,lot 3 to be 7.21 acres,lot 4 to be 3.63 acres
with access to Bay Road,and lot 5 at 11.57 acres.Lot 4 contains an existing barn and shed that will remain.
Project site work contains APA wetland areas. Pursuant to Chapter 1S3 and Chapter 94, subdivision of 5
lots,and wetlands permit for site work within 100 ft.of wetlands shall be subject to Planning Board review
and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter A-1S3,the Planning Board
has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
A public hearing was scheduled and held on December 15,2022;
This application is supported with all documentation,public comment,and application material in the file
of record;
Lot 4 only to be accessed from Bay Road,and not from Pickle Hill Road.
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MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 5-2022 &z FRESHWATER
WETLANDS 7-2022 JEFFREY&z JOANNE MANN(5 LOT),Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved
for its adoption.
Motion seconded by Brady Stark. Duly adopted this 15`h day of December 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan, Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-Is the Board comfortable with doing Final?
MR. DIXON-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. We'll entertain that motion.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SUB FINAL STAGE 14-2022 JEFFREY&r JOANN MANN
A subdivision application has been made to the Queensbury Planning Board for the following:Applicant
proposes a 3 lot residential subdivision of a 17.1 acre parcel for preliminary and final stage. The lot sizes are:
Lot 6 to be 3.S4 acres,lot 7 to be 4.1 acres,and lot S to be 9.2 acres.Lot S contains access to Pickle Hill Road
including easements for shared access to Pickle Hill Road for lots 6 and 7. The project site contains APA
wetlands, stream, and slopes greater than 200/o. Pursuant to chapter 1S3 and chapter 94, subdivision for 3
lots, wetland permit and work within 100 ft. of wetlands shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter A-1S3,the Planning Board
has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
This application is supported with all documentation,public comment,and application material in the file
of record;
MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE 15-2022 JEFFREY &z JOANNE MANN (3
LOTI Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption.
1. The requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been considered and the
Planning Board has adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration; and if the application is a
modification, the requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been
considered, and the proposed modification[s] do not result in any new or significantly different
environmental impacts, and,therefore,no further SEQRA review is necessary;
2. Waiver requests granted:
3. The approval is valid for one (1) year from the date of approval. Applicant is responsible for
requesting an extension of approval before the one (1)year time frame has expired if you have not
yet applied for a building permit or commenced significant site work.
4. The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall be
installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff
5. Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of Planning Board Chairman.
6. The applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a) The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit or for coverage under an individual SPDES prior to the start of aU site
work.
b) The project NOT(Notice of Termination)upon completion of the project; and
7. The applicant must maintain on their project site,for review by staff:
a) The approved final that have been stamped by the Town Zoning Administrator.
These plans must include the project SWPPP(Storm Water Pollution Prevention
Plan)when such a plan was prepared and approved; and
b) The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit,or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project.
S. Final approved plans,in compliance with the Subdivision,must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel.
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9. The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit and/or
the beginning of any site work.
10. Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
It. As-built plans to certify that the subdivision is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy;
12. Resolutions must be included on Final Subdivision mylar;
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 15`h day of December 2022 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker,Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan, Mr. Etu,Mr. Deeb,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You are all set.
MR. DOBIE-Thank you so much,Board.
MR. MAGOWAN-We would like to thank you, and Jeff and Joanne Mann. It's been along haul. From
the Sketch until now,it really looks great.
MR. TRAVER-Before we adjourn, we have just a couple of quick items. I know the secretary has a
presentation he wants to make. I just want to express my thanks. We had 26 meetings this year and I
appreciate everybody's working so hard and David and Michael helping the Board in your officer positions.
Thank you again for being willing to continue to do that again next year. We actually now have a full
Board with the addition of our two alternates. So next year should be even better,and a special thanks to
Laura and Maria for all the support that Staff provide us. We certainly wouldn't be able to do it without
them. So just thank you everybody, and onward and upward until January I guess. Michael you have a
presentation.
MR. DIXON-Maria and Laura, both of you do so much for us, the Board just wanted to make sure we
recognized that. Thank you for everything you guys do. I know you put in some long hours during the
day and the nights. So thank you.
MR. TRAVER-Thanks very much. Drive careful everybody.
MOTION TO ADJOURN THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF DECEMBER
15TI,2022,Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,seconded by David Deeb:
Duly adopted this 15`h day of December,2022,by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb,Mr. Dixon,Mr. Longacker, Mr. Stark,Mr. Magowan, Mr. Etu,Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
On motion meeting was adjourned.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Stephen Traver,Chairman
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